Hi all, Just hoping someone could possibly lookup William Robb, wife Grace. Not sure what children would have been at home but their names are... Janet, Andrew, Grace, George, Barbara, John, Agnes, William. Am just wondering where they were living at the time as they had moved back to the family home by the 1851 census at Dee Bridge. Thanks Heaps, Leeona

Good evening all Just a quick e-mail as I think some people have been 'confused' with my new 'Header'. Over the past few years whenever I have changed ISP it has meant a new 'Header' for example I have been 'ROOTS47': 'Ancestry'; 'Caledonia'; and laterally 'CaledoniaRoutes' and now because I have Broadband I am using 'Alba'. However, my e-mail not been altered or changed and I am still at genealogy@ancestryroots.co.uk Hope this clears up any 'confusion'. Cheers Ewan

Just putting out feelers here, does anyone have access to the census for this Parish? Would also be grateful for any information on Courance and White Laird (hope I've spelt that right) and anyone who may have 1841 census material Thanks Lynda

Hi All, Been lurking but if any new members have these names in their files, I'd be inerested and can maybe help in return. POOL HOPE MACKIE THOMSON SCOTT GULLEN FARISH all in Annan. Best Wishes, Maureen Dunn (m.s. POOL)

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> Hi Lynda > Did your John Drummond have a first wife? I have a Catherine Aitken who > married a John Drummond on the 28th August 1819 in Glasgow, (Catherine was > born there in 1784) and then her family moved down to Newton Stewart > Wigtownshire. I have no records of children and wondered if she died very > young and John remarried your Jessie Shortt. Catherine's sister Elizabeth > Aitken married a Peter Henderson in Dumfries, so the Aitkens had connections > all over the lowlands. > Donna Aitken > Kiwi in excile inVancouver Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lynda collins" <lynn_collins@btinternet.com> > To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: June 28, 2004 6:58 AM > Subject: [D-G LIST] Dumfriess Family Shortt > > > > Hello all > > > > I have come back to this list with a different (Previously researching > McMurrich) still am but trying another branch! > > > > Posting Interests and would love to hear if anyone else has one in this > family > > > > I have John Drummond born Moffat 1784 son of Peter Drummond (Gardener ) > > and Mary Buchanan > > > > Jessie Drummond MN Short or Shortt born Hoddam 1788 Daughter of John > Shortt (Town Clerk) and ..... Mundell (Unfortunately do not have a > forename). > > > > The children I know of are: > > Margaret born C1831 Glencairns > > Janet and Mary christened 1813 Hoddam (not sure about these dates) > > Allen Drummond born C1833 Keir > > > > The Family lived on the Barjarg Estate Keir, where John Land Steward / > Head Gardener until he died there in 1868 aged 84 > > > > Jessie died there in 1862 aged 74 > > > > I think there may have been more children. I do not know what became of > Margaret, Mary or Allen. Janet went on to marry into the McMurrichs. > > > > If Ian McClumpa is still on this list, "Ian you may well remember the > McMurrichs!!!" > > > > Well thats all for now I think, but I shall be back and probably asking > for help!! > > > > Kind regards > > > > Lynda > > > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > > ********************************** > > YOU HAVE ENTERED A FLAME FREE ZONE > > ********************************** > > >

On the 1881 census of Cambusbarron, St Ninians, Stirling, Scotland was listed John McIntyre, his wife, Mary Cowan Howat, their children, her brothers, and a Homer Cowan that was listed as "wife's cousin". I believe the Homer Cowan below is one and the same: 1867 - 882 - 133 Homer Cowan, was born at 7am on the 22nd of August, 1867 at Maxwelltown, Dumfries, Scotland. Mother - Janet Cowan. Registered as Illegitimate. Mary Cowan Howat's parents were James Howat b. abt. 1813 in Eng., and Margaret Kennedy Ross, b. abt. 1819 in Dumfries town. I'm trying to determine how Homer was a cousin. Since Mary's middle name was Cowan, I feel there is a common Cowan ancestor, but where? There are a lot of earlier Homer Cowans in the Dumfries town area. Mary had a brother named Homer Howat in 1847 in Dumfries. It must be Margaret Kennedy Ross' mother was a Cowan, or possibly, if his family was originally from Dumfries area, James Howat's mother could have been the Cowan. When are the monument inscriptions for Dumfries supposed to be available? Maybe they will shed a clue. Any Cowan researchers familiar with Homer Cowans? Thanks, Marc Archer in Flint, Michigan

<In response to Patrick Dunbar's query of June 15.> Hi Patrick. I'm just now catching up on email and saw your post of June 15. I am researching the Dunbar family from Ruthwell (John Dunbar 1743-1821 who married Elizabeth "Betty" Hill abt 1750-1790) and their descendants. I've previously posted part of the family history, (based on my research and collaboration with other helpful researchers) on Ancestry.com's free World Tree. If you type in both of their names in the Ancestry.com family tree search, you should be able to pull up the tree "easily" (I hope.) I also have additional source information I didn't post with the tree but which I'm happy to share. Please let me know if I can provide any additional information. And I'll add my annual reposting here: does anyone have information on the ancestors of the above mentioned John Dunbar and Elizabeth Hill? They both continue to be my brick walls. They had three children: William, Susanna, and Jean (Jane). Their three children and many of their descendants were raised in Ruthwell, although William's son, George (1813-1882) moved to Canada (which is the primary branch I'm researching). Thanks for any help! Judy BH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Dunbar" <patrick@pdunbar.fsnet.co.uk> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 7:17 AM Subject: DUNBAR > I would welcome a contact with anyone researching, or has connections with > the Dunbar name. > > I maintain a Dunbar one-name study database, and welcome any queries or > data. > > Pat(rick) R. L. Dunbar > RESEARCHING the DUNBAR name, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME > Organiser, Dunbar Family Society (UK) > Member - Guild of One-Name Studies, Aberdeen & N.E. Scotland FHS, > Scottish Genealogy Society > mailto:dunbar@one-name.org > http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk (for family history information) > http://www.debbiedunbar.net (for equestrian art) > > ______________________________

In a message dated 28/06/2004 12:02:34 GMT Standard Time, DFSGAL@aol.com writes: It is both Old Kirkconnel (Helen of Kirkconnel Lee ballad) and Kirkpatrick Flemming. The fact it is being used as source material for a Uni Course make wonder though if deliberate errors or imaginative reconstruction has been used simply for teaching purposes and testing the Under-graduates. I would say use with care Hello Sandy A very sceptical approach to Art Lecturers and students ;-) Having been both in my time (until late 1990s), I'd say that they would not make any deliberate errors or reconstruct for such a project, but there again - they might do things differently now. Judy

In a message dated 28/06/2004 01:25:25 GMT Daylight Time, robin.l.mcleod@sympatico.ca writes: > > It is from Kirkpatrick Fleming Kirkyard > > http://www.art.man.ac.uk/ARTHIST/AY2081/project%202.htm > > It is both Old Kirkconnel (Helen of Kirkconnel Lee ballad) and Kirkpatrick Flemming. The fact it is being used as source material for a Uni Course make wonder though if deliberate errors or imaginative reconstruction has been used simply for teaching purposes and testing the Under-graduates. I would say use with care. Sandy

Hi May Nice to see you back on the list. Regards Ian. Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: May [mailto:schultem@telusplanet.net] Sent: 27 June 2004 16:11 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D-G LIST] ROLL CALL Having been gone from the list for a considerable time I feel like a veritable 'newbie'! The names I am interested in are: EWART Matthew/TAIT Helen - Middlebie - starting 1800 EWART Matthew/CARLYLE Sarah - Trailtrowmuir, Middlebie, Annan - starting 1770 FORREST Thomas/INMAN Agnes - Ecclefechan, Hoddam, Annan - starting 1850 INMAN - Thomas, William, James, John, Richard, Matthew, Mary, Jane, Maggie, Isabella, Agnes, Grace, Sarah - Dumfries, Kingholm Quay, Ecclefechan, Hoddam, Lockerbie, Glasgow - starting - 1856 INMAN James/McDONALD Elizabeth - Ecclefechan - starting 1831 INMAN Thomas/MORRISON Mary - England, Ecclefechan - starting 1785 INMAN Thomas/LITTLE Mary Jane - England, Ecclefechan, Dryfesdale, Lockerbie, Glasgow - starting 1855 INMAN William/CAMPBELL Grace - Ecclefechan, Dumfries, Kircudbright - starting 1858 JARDINE James/INMAN Mary - Ecclefechan, Hoddam - starting 1850 JARDINE William/INMAN Grace - Ecclefechan, Hoddam - starting 1850 JOHNSTONE ?/INMAN Ann - Ecclefechan, Hoddam - starting 1817 LITTLE George/EWART Sarah - Middlebie, Ecclfechan, Half Morton - starting 1800 MINTO Thomas/INMAN Jane - Hoddam, Ecclefechan - starting 1818 MORRISON James/JOHNSTONE Jeannie - Ecclefechan - starting 1770 MORRISON Mary - Ecclefechan - starting 1790 McDONALD William/JARDINE Janet - Ecclefechan, Hoddam, Dumfries - starting 1800 McDONALD Elizabeth, John, Jane, Mary, James - Ecclefechan, Hoddam, Annan - starting 1827 MURRAY Peter/INMAN Jane - Ecclefechan, Hoddam - starting 1850 PATTERSON David/INMAN Maggie - Ecclefechan, Hoddam - starting 1850 ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== ********************************************************************* If you have any problems with this list or any of its members please contact the listowner....Tom Welch....tomas@directcon.net ******************************************************************** --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 25/06/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 25/06/04

Hi List. I was checking the IGI for my Coulter from Kent. Came across this IGI sheet while I was perusing the names. Thought I would send it along as a stray. Janet or Jonet Cutlar or Culter Born 1622 of Auchenskeoch Dumfries England Family....Married Patrick Young. Father; Patrick Young. Mother Helen Newall Patrick, the son, was born abt 1620 of Auchenskeoch, Dumfries, England died Nov. 1680. I would think it was probably Cutler but I guess you never know. Jean Coat

Hello Everyone Can anyone help me with my Peter KERR(my 3xgt grandfather) Found him this week to be father of Henry KERR born 1830 Dumfries On Henrys marriage cert he put himself(Peter) as Land Steward I have looked on 1851 census but cant really pin him down Has anyone seen him lurking anywhere? As I dont know if my gtgtgrandfather Henry had any siblings I can only guess at Peters D.O.B. around 1810 I cant find a Henry KERR with father Peter either Help! Any help would really be appreciated I would of course love to hear from anyone with interest in any of the 3 names below Christine Yorks lass in Lancs Researching KERR/JOHNSTON/HUNTER --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 27/06/2004

It is from Kirkpatrick Fleming Kirkyard http://www.art.man.ac.uk/ARTHIST/AY2081/project%202.htm Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trudie Thompson" <trudie@pacificcoast.net> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> HI I came across this site while "Googling". It seems to be an Art History report from manchester University. It lists Mi's from a cemetery in Dumfries but I'm not sure what cemetery it is. Maybe sombody with more knowledge than me can figure it out. http://www.art.man.ac.uk/ARTHIST/AY2081/KPF%20Faces.xls Cheers Trudie

Hello all I have come back to this list with a different (Previously researching McMurrich) still am but trying another branch! Posting Interests and would love to hear if anyone else has one in this family I have John Drummond born Moffat 1784 son of Peter Drummond (Gardener ) and Mary Buchanan Jessie Drummond MN Short or Shortt born Hoddam 1788 Daughter of John Shortt (Town Clerk) and ..... Mundell (Unfortunately do not have a forename). The children I know of are: Margaret born C1831 Glencairns Janet and Mary christened 1813 Hoddam (not sure about these dates) Allen Drummond born C1833 Keir The Family lived on the Barjarg Estate Keir, where John Land Steward / Head Gardener until he died there in 1868 aged 84 Jessie died there in 1862 aged 74 I think there may have been more children. I do not know what became of Margaret, Mary or Allen. Janet went on to marry into the McMurrichs. If Ian McClumpa is still on this list, "Ian you may well remember the McMurrichs!!!" Well thats all for now I think, but I shall be back and probably asking for help!! Kind regards Lynda

Hi I can't manage to get the Digest. Did I cancel, not sure, thanks. Can't find the home page of D&G either, Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D Digest V04 #169

Lynn, Does the following add anything to your search for Drummond: Keir (New Cemetery), Dumfriesshire In Memory of Jessie Shortt, wife of John DRUMMOND, who died at Barjarg 10th October 1862 aged 72 years And John DRUMMOND, who died at Barjarg 25th Dec 1868 aged 84 years Also Allan DRUMMOND their son, who died at Woodhall, Essex, 28th Jan 1864 aged 30 years I have a few more Drummond MIs (about a dozen) Are you interested? Sandy > > I have John Drummond born Moffat 1784 son of Peter Drummond (Gardener ) > and Mary Buchanan > > Jessie Drummond MN Short or Shortt born Hoddam 1788 Daughter of John Shortt > (Town Clerk) and ..... Mundell (Unfortunately do not have a forename). >

HI I came across this site while "Googling". It seems to be an Art History report from manchester University. It lists Mi's from a cemetary in Dumfries but I'm not sure what cemetary it is. Maybe sombody with more knowledge than me can figure it out. http://www.art.man.ac.uk/ARTHIST/AY2081/KPF%20Faces.xls Cheers Trudie Researching PRINGLE from Dumfries and Kirkcudbright area.

Having been gone from the list for a considerable time I feel like a veritable 'newbie'! The names I am interested in are: EWART Matthew/TAIT Helen - Middlebie - starting 1800 EWART Matthew/CARLYLE Sarah - Trailtrowmuir, Middlebie, Annan - starting 1770 FORREST Thomas/INMAN Agnes - Ecclefechan, Hoddam, Annan - starting 1850 INMAN - Thomas, William, James, John, Richard, Matthew, Mary, Jane, Maggie, Isabella, Agnes, Grace, Sarah - Dumfries, Kingholm Quay, Ecclefechan, Hoddam, Lockerbie, Glasgow - starting - 1856 INMAN James/McDONALD Elizabeth - Ecclefechan - starting 1831 INMAN Thomas/MORRISON Mary - England, Ecclefechan - starting 1785 INMAN Thomas/LITTLE Mary Jane - England, Ecclefechan, Dryfesdale, Lockerbie, Glasgow - starting 1855 INMAN William/CAMPBELL Grace - Ecclefechan, Dumfries, Kircudbright - starting 1858 JARDINE James/INMAN Mary - Ecclefechan, Hoddam - starting 1850 JARDINE William/INMAN Grace - Ecclefechan, Hoddam - starting 1850 JOHNSTONE ?/INMAN Ann - Ecclefechan, Hoddam - starting 1817 LITTLE George/EWART Sarah - Middlebie, Ecclfechan, Half Morton - starting 1800 MINTO Thomas/INMAN Jane - Hoddam, Ecclefechan - starting 1818 MORRISON James/JOHNSTONE Jeannie - Ecclefechan - starting 1770 MORRISON Mary - Ecclefechan - starting 1790 McDONALD William/JARDINE Janet - Ecclefechan, Hoddam, Dumfries - starting 1800 McDONALD Elizabeth, John, Jane, Mary, James - Ecclefechan, Hoddam, Annan - starting 1827 MURRAY Peter/INMAN Jane - Ecclefechan, Hoddam - starting 1850 PATTERSON David/INMAN Maggie - Ecclefechan, Hoddam - starting 1850

Hi, we were hoping someone may be able to tell us if there is a monumental inscription listing for Janet Robb (maiden name Ewart) in Troqueer around 1853. Thanks heaps, Leeona