Hello I am looking for relatives of Edward Paterson who married Isabella Dalziel ( daughter of John Dalziel and Margaret Mitchel).Edward was said to be a grocer in Dumfries?They had a son John.Posible father of Edward is Peter Paterson?Peter may have married as a second wife Jane Dalziel a younger sister of Isabella. Chum --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Hello list I am interested in a probate entry for a Gilbert Ritchie farmer at Eastside dated 1850. The Ritchies I am interested in lived in Kirkconnell/Sanquhar. Does anyone know of an Eastside in that area? Thanks Robyn Doble Melbourne, Australia

Atthe age of 18 he was sent to England Berkshire???for an apprenticship???he died in 1856 drowning in the Detroit River Michigan,any details would be helpfull.Thanks John

Hi Robyn Eastside is midway between Sanquhar and Kirkconnell. You can see details of Wills on www.scottishdocuments.com Regards Ian. Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: robyn [mailto:doble@melbpc.org.au] Sent: 14 July 2004 04:18 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D-G LIST] Eastside & Ritchie Hello list I am interested in a probate entry for a Gilbert Ritchie farmer at Eastside dated 1850. The Ritchies I am interested in lived in Kirkconnell/Sanquhar. Does anyone know of an Eastside in that area? Thanks Robyn Doble Melbourne, Australia ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== FIND YOUR ANCESTORS http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release Date: 02/07/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release Date: 02/07/04 ________________________________________________________________________ Full speed 512K broadband from Freeola just £26.99 - forget the rest FREE unlimited web space, e-mail & domain hosting www.freeola.com

1881 Census for Cowans born Dunscore. Dwelling: 17 West Morton St Census Place: Morton, Dumfries, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224051 GRO Ref Volume 843 EnumDist 6 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Adam COWAN M 44 M Kirkmahoe, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Agricult Labourer Lucy COWAN M 44 F Holywood, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Agricult Labs Wife Joseph COWAN U 17 M Cummertrees, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Apprentice Mason James COWAN U 14 M Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Quarry Labourer Jane COWAN 13 F Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mary COWAN M 93 F Dunscore, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Mother Handicap: Blind Occ: Pauper (Annuitant) Institution: "Court Buildings Prison" Parliament Sq Census Place: Edinburgh New North, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224004 GRO Ref Volume 685-4 EnumDist 12 Page 12 James Scott COWAN U 45 M Dunscore, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Prisoner Occ: General Labourer Dwelling: Crochmore Cottage Census Place: Irongray, Kircudbright, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224056 GRO Ref Volume 867 EnumDist 4 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John COWAN M 43 M Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Dyker Jane COWAN M 43 F Glencairn, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Wife Mary Barbour COWAN 13 F Dunscore, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Isabella COWAN 12 F Irongray, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Margret COWAN 10 F Irongray, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar John Corrie COWAN 7 M Irongray, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Thomas COWAN 2 M Irongray, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Son David COWAN 10 m M Irongray, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Son Dwelling: Bridgestone Grocers Census Place: Urr, Kircudbright, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224059 GRO Ref Volume 884 EnumDist 3 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John COWAN M 30 M Urr, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Grocer Janet COWAN M 27 F Carmichael, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Grocers Wife David COWAN 2 M Dunscore, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Son Robert COWAN 1 M Urr, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Son ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Garrett" <fionag@austarnet.com.au> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:09 AM Subject: [D-G LIST] Re: [BORDER] James Scott Cowan 1881 Court Buildings Prison, Edinburgh SCT > > > > Hi Valerie, > I am very interested in your posting re James Cowan, really because of the > place of birth Dunscore, Dumfries. My GGGGrandfather David Cowan was born in > Dunscore and his father was James Cowan, of course this happened way back in > 1801 however, its possible that this James Scott Cowan is a child of a > brother of either James or David. > If sks could look up the 1881 census for Cowans born in Dunscore, Dumfries, > it may shed some light on the Cowans for me. > Have to admit, I have not as yet delved into my Cowan side of the family as > have my hands full trying to sort out my Kennedys. > > Fiona > Down Under > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Valorie Zimmerman > Date: 07/12/04 11:27:35 > To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BORDER] James Scott Cowan 1881 Court Buildings Prison, Edinburgh > SCT > > I've been going through old stored posts, trying to get rid of some, or move > the interesting info where it can be more easily found - my genealogy link > blog, http://valoriez.blogspot.com > > I found this on an old SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com post: 1881 CENSUS for > Court Buildings Prison, Edinburgh (by Betty Wintersteen -- thanks, Betty!) > > "Court Buildings Prison" Parliament Sq > Edinburgh New North, Edinburgh, Scotland > > FHL film 0224004 GRO Ref. Vo. 685-4 EnumDist 12 Page 12 > > Name Marr. Age Sex Place of Birth > > .... > James Scott COWAN U 45 M Dunscore, Dumfries > Rel. Prisoner Occ: Gen. Lab > .... > > My gggrandfather's brother was James Scott Cowan, but they lived in Yarrow, > Selkirkshire, and he worked in Ettrick. By 1881, my g-uncle James was in > Ontario Canada. > > Since Dumfries is just over the border from Selkirkshire, I'm sure the > Cowans there are connected somehow. It just struck me to have the Scott used > as the middle name here -- middle names were not common in Scotland at this > time. My own grandfather had no middle name, but both his father and > grandfather bore the Scott to honor their mother/grandmother Jennie Scott of > Harden, who died in Scotland before the Cowan emigration to Canada. > > Valorie > > > ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== > Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. We > also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, Kirkudbrightshire > Northumberland and Cumbria > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > FIND YOUR ANCESTORS > http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/ >

Hi Valerie, I am very interested in your posting re James Cowan, really because of the place of birth Dunscore, Dumfries. My GGGGrandfather David Cowan was born in Dunscore and his father was James Cowan, of course this happened way back in 1801 however, its possible that this James Scott Cowan is a child of a brother of either James or David. If sks could look up the 1881 census for Cowans born in Dunscore, Dumfries, it may shed some light on the Cowans for me. Have to admit, I have not as yet delved into my Cowan side of the family as have my hands full trying to sort out my Kennedys. Fiona Down Under -------Original Message------- From: Valorie Zimmerman Date: 07/12/04 11:27:35 To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BORDER] James Scott Cowan 1881 Court Buildings Prison, Edinburgh SCT I've been going through old stored posts, trying to get rid of some, or move the interesting info where it can be more easily found - my genealogy link blog, http://valoriez.blogspot.com I found this on an old SCOTLAND-GENWEB-L@rootsweb.com post: 1881 CENSUS for Court Buildings Prison, Edinburgh (by Betty Wintersteen -- thanks, Betty!) "Court Buildings Prison" Parliament Sq Edinburgh New North, Edinburgh, Scotland FHL film 0224004 GRO Ref. Vo. 685-4 EnumDist 12 Page 12 Name Marr. Age Sex Place of Birth ... James Scott COWAN U 45 M Dunscore, Dumfries Rel. Prisoner Occ: Gen. Lab ... My gggrandfather's brother was James Scott Cowan, but they lived in Yarrow, Selkirkshire, and he worked in Ettrick. By 1881, my g-uncle James was in Ontario Canada. Since Dumfries is just over the border from Selkirkshire, I'm sure the Cowans there are connected somehow. It just struck me to have the Scott used as the middle name here -- middle names were not common in Scotland at this time. My own grandfather had no middle name, but both his father and grandfather bore the Scott to honor their mother/grandmother Jennie Scott of Harden, who died in Scotland before the Cowan emigration to Canada. Valorie ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== Borders includes Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, Peebleshire. We also welcome family researchers for Dumfries and Galloway, Kirkudbrightshire Northumberland and Cumbria

Any trade or similar for Wigtownshire Mochrum

Hello would be interested any any census for Mochrum before 1841 and trade directories for 1840/50.Thanks John

My GGG Grandfather James Hartley was Chief of Police for 10? years around that date any information on him and the police at that time would be very help full.Thanks John

hello to sandra thanks for mail all my McMillans come from Newton Stewart father peter son anthony and his family is all Ihave, I tried to reply to your mail but it was rejected for some reason hence reply through list George

For Wigton Hartley James chief of police 10 years how do Ifind a record of this.Thanks John

Hartley James Chief of Police in wigton 10 years 1840?1850?are there archives for the police?Thanks John

In a message dated 11/07/2004 18:21:12 GMT Daylight Time, SKronen266@aol.com writes: If you order the certificate from the General Register Office it will have the notation on the back. Can I point out that a certificate is not the same thing as buying the image from the Scotlandspeople site. A certificate costs about £13 from Register House in Edinburgh. I don't think you'll get the notation on the back from Scotlandspeople..but I think I read somewhere that they are in the process of (or are planning to ) scanning the RCE volumes Irene

I work in a public library in England. We have Infotrac available in the library and also online for members - you need to input your library barcode to access the database. Check if your local library offers something similar. It has newspapers other than the Times too. Sheena

"In Loving memory of John Maxwell, son of Thomas Maxwell of Drumpark, Kirkcudbright, died May 19th 1901." This inscription is on a gravestone in Flaybrick Memorial Garden near Birkenhead (on the Wirral peninsula). Eunice Smith Edinburgh, Scotland

If you order the certificate from the General Register Office it will have the notation on the back. This happened for one that I ordered. The original certificate said: "Mary Ann Webster, Married to John Webster, Hotel Keeper; 1890 August Fourth, 3h 45m p.m.; female; 33 years; Father: John Innes, Farmer; Mother: Mary Innes, m.s. Wilson; Cause of Death: Gastritis, 4 days, Certified by George Clark, MB.CM; Informant: John Webster, Widower (present); Registered 1890 August 4th at Kirriemuir, Chas Samson Registrar.” and on the back was typed: “Register of Corrected Entries For The Parish Of Kirriemuir In The County Of Forfar. The following Report of result of a Precognition has been received touching the death of Mary Ann Innes or Webster registered under No 96 in the Register Book of Deaths for the year 1890:- Name, Occupation Age Sex & Condition: Mary Ann Innes or Webster, 33 years, Female, Married; When & Where Died: Between 2 and 3 p.m. on Monday 4 August last in the Newtown Hotel, Southmuir of Kirriemuir, Forfarshire; Parents’ Names: John Innes Farmer, Elizabeth Wilson or Innes; Cause of Death: Gastritis, Certified by Dr. Clark, Kirriemuir. Procurator Fiscal’s Office Forfar 21st February 1891, Certified by Alex Freeman, Dep. P.F.; 24th February 1891, at Kirriemuir, Chas. Samson, Regr.” I also got a similar thing for a marriage: The original: “ #2 1880. on the Thirtyfirst day of December at Inchture Church After Bans According to the Forms of the Church of Scotland; (Signed) James Jackson Jr., Carver and Gilder, Bachelor; age 27; usual residence: Perth; father: James Jackson, Carver & Gilder; mother: Catherine Jackson, m.s. Brown Deceased; (Signed) Cathrin D. Martin, Spinster; age 20; usual residence: Inchture; father: Alexander Martin, Journeyman Joiner; mother: Jessie Martin, m.s. Donald; officiating minister: (Signed) J.A. Honey D.D., Minister of Inchture; (Signed) Susan Robertson, Witness; (Signed) Thomas Jackson, Witness; registered 1881 January 3rd At Inchture; (Signed) W.C. Duncan, Assist. Registrar.” and on the back was typed: “Page 24. Register of Corrected Entries for the Parish of Inchture in the County of Perth. Register of Marriages for the Parish of Inchture, in the County of Perth for the year 1881. Entry No. 2. 8th March 1890. - Decree of Divorce was pronounced by Lord Wellwood, Ordinary, in an Action at the instance of Mrs. Catherine Martin Donald or Jackson, residing in Dundee against James Jackson Junr. some time Carver and Gilder, some time residing in Perth. The above insertion is made under the direction of the Registrar-General in terms of the 5th Section of the Act 18 Vict.C.29. William Duncan, Registrar, 20th March 1890.” Sheila Kronenberger Belleville, Illinois, USA In a message dated 7/11/04 11:04:46 AM, DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: >> From: David Brown [mailto:dbccon@ntlworld.com] >> Sent: 03 July 2004 14:51 >> To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [D-G LIST] Death Certificate Mystery >> >> >> Hi List >> >> Can anybody help solve a mystery on a death certifcate >> There is a strange note on the side panel of the certificate that >> says:Result of Precognition see Reg of C.O.D. Vol 1 page 47 17th July >> 1888 >> the cause of death on the certificate gives c.o.d (Supposed) Heart >> failure drops down suddenly. Has anybody have any idea how I could get >> a copy of this entry. >> >> Best Regards >> David Brown >> Manchester UK >> dbccon@ntlworld.com >>

hi I have to post my interests they are Laurie.Baird,Diamond McMillan, Moffat, and Johnston any info on avy would be most appreciated George

looking to correspond with anyone with connections with the following two threads *(1)James Carruthers 1852-1932 m. Margaret Shaw 1851-1906 children: Robert Helen Maggie Sara Jane jemima Mary William Elizabeth died.1940. Elizabeth m J M Harris (he emigrated to rhodesia Mine owner) Children: George, Hazel m John CLEGG, & Heather m MATOWITZ believed to be in Southafrica. ********************************************************************************************* James *(1)s sister Elizabeth 1854-1930 m.( in 1875) to James LISTER 1850-1937 children: William m Langill, George m Abbot-Walker etc, Mabel m Munro etc, Norman m Jenkins etc. Eliza & James emigrated to USA via SS Samaria from Liverpool arriving at Boston 1875. ********************************************************************************************* Ian Harare Zim.

In answer to your enquiry - yes, Charles Sharpe does have a headstone in Cummertrees churchyard. It is unlikely to appear in the Memorials in Annandale registers however because it is not really pre-1855. But I know it well. It begins: "In memory of William son of Charles Sharpe in Kelhead who died 30th Sept 1852 aged 1 year. Also Isabella his daughter who died 19th Oct 1853 aged 2 months ..." [it continues through 13 lost children - yes I know, thirteen.] It ends: "Also William his son who died at Thebarton [should be Theberton] Street, Islington, London 8th March 1880 aged 19 years [death certificate says 7th, aged 18]. Also the above Charles Sharpe who died at Stenries 26 Feb 1895 aged 78 years. Also Isabella Sharpe his wife who died at Topmuir, Cummertrees 17th July 1921 aged 91 years." My interest in Charles Sharpe the elder, stems from his position as Limeworks manager at Kelhead and from his dear wife Isabella McKune, sister of my gggrandmother. I would be interested in continuing this, privately if necesssary, with anyone interested in the Sharpes of Closeburn or Kelhead Quarry. Keith Scott mariner98@supanet.com

Hi Malcolm Could this be her as Margaret in 1851 she is a widow but Farmer Age is a bit off but we all know about that! The other Janet is there her age a bit off as well in same household Christine Name:PATTERSON, Margaret Address: Culdoch(878): Parish: Parton Relationship: head of household Marital Status: widow Occupation: FARMER of 6 acres Age: 76 Born: born Kelton Kbt Household No: 2/4 Name:PATTERSON, Janet Address: Culdoch(878): Parish: Parton Relationship: daughter in law of Margaret Patterson Marital Status: married Occupation: Age: 36 Born: born Rerrick Kbt Household No: 2/4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Paterson" <mdp1@sympatico.ca> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 8:27 PM Subject: [D-G LIST] PAT(T)ERSON > Hi List, > > I am looking for help from SKS who has access to the original version of the > 1841 census of Parton parish. The D&GFHS index for Parton show the following > people: > Patterson Janet (or Woods), 25 2,3 > Culdoach > Patterson Janet, 60 2,3 > Culdoach > Patterson Thomas, 65, farmer/mason, Scotland 2,3 Culdoach > > I have some reason to suspect that the name of the 60 year old woman is not > Janet, but Margaret, and that an error occurred in the creation of the > index. Is anyone able to either prove or disprove my theory ? TIA > > Cheers! > Malcolm > > > > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > FIND YOUR ANCESTORS > http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 05/07/2004