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    1. Re: [D-G LIST] Where is St Michaels?
    2. Bruce and Donna Aitken

    3. Thank you to everyone who responded to my question about St Michaels. I have found the various website references really helpful Such kind helpful people on this list Donna Aitken ----- Original Message ----- From: <DFSGAL@aol.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: July 18, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] Where is St Michaels? > If you want to see St. Michael's church and graveyard use the the hyperlink > below. > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/Dumfries/dfs-ndx.htm > This gives a short photographic tour of St.Michael's Graveyard. > For a longer tour of Dumfries and Galloway graveyards use the photo index. > > Sandy > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > DO NOT send files as Email attachments to the list. > Send them privately - person to person. > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >

    07/18/2004 03:59:59
    1. Re: [D-G LIST] DGFHS Website -- Temporary Address

    3. I'll add 3,000 miles to that remark! Yours aye, John Jardine Cincinnati, Ohio USA D&G FHS Member #1918 Alba mo dhuthaich gu deireadh mo la! (Scotland my homeland forever!) JARDINE/JARDEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Annan, Applegarth, Wamphray, Torthorwald, Collin, Racks, Cummertrees, Powfoot, Mouswald, Kirkmichael, Templand; GREEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; RAE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; MOFFAT in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; McMILLAN in Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, Irongray; HALLIDAY in Irongray; BRODIE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; DICKSON in Mouswald; HOPE in Annan; JOHNSTON(E) in Applegarth, Kirkpatrick-Juxta; PORTEOUS in Applegarth; RICHARDSON in Applegarth

    07/18/2004 02:00:17
    1. balmaghie batch numbers
    2. christine

    3. Thanks to all those folks who kindly headed me in right direction Much appreciated Christine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 16/07/2004

    07/18/2004 11:43:27
    1. Re: [D-G LIST] DGFHS Website -- Temporary Address

    3. Just to say that I believe folks appreciate the help all the DGFHS team give to those of us who are so far away........... Well done to you all Sandy...... edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

    07/18/2004 09:34:42
    1. DGFHS Website -- Temporary Address

    3. Hi Folks, Response to Jim and others. Nobody has been more peeved than me with the delay in getting our website back online! Freenetname have been messing us about. They wanted 25 quid to reinstate our website. I disputed their reasons for disabling it in the first place. I advised DGFHS that a change of Service Providers would be a better option, also involving a service fee of 25 quid which we sent over a week ago along with the appropriate documentation. The claim to have received the documents but no cheque *!*!*! (expletives deleted). Anyway I have restored the DGFHS website at the following temporary address: www.research-centre.freeola.com please use that URL until we get our domain name back. Sandy PS Thanks for all the emails, I didn't realise that our website was so popular. > > (And what's happening about DGFHS website? I see it's still down - > that's a few weeks now). > > Jill McKenzie, Glasgow >

    07/18/2004 09:08:33
    1. Kirkmahoe MI
    2. Jill McKenzie

    3. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can see the full text of the MIs for Kirkmahoe? New Register House has a fiche index for some of the D&G parishes which has been a help but it doesn't have the full text. The Mitchell library in Glasgow has a number of booklets for Dumfrieshire but unfortunately not that one. (And what's happening about DGFHS website? I see it's still down - that's a few weeks now). Jill McKenzie, Glasgow

    07/18/2004 09:06:59
    1. interests
    2. george rider

    3. hi all posting my interests ,Laurie,Baird,Diamond,Johnston McMillan, Moffat,Rider any info would be appreciated thanks George Rider

    07/18/2004 06:10:51
    1. Re: [D-G LIST] 1841 Archibald KAY
    2. Fiona Garrett

    3. Hi Helen, I have had a look in my booklets of Dumfries, township and the surrounding area and can't fin your Archibald, when you found him in 1851. Which Parish was he in? Fiona -------Original Message------- From: Lavendersblue Date: 07/18/04 07:02:18 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D-G LIST] 1841 Archibald KAY Hello listers, If any one has got easy access to the 1841 census would you please have a look for Archibald KAY age approx 27 years, possibly a gardener. He may have his wife Catherine with him, and you never know there may be others? I have got the Moffat town, and the Moffat land, but he's not in there. He is in Dumfries in 1851 with Catherine and his nephew Richardson McKemy b England. Archibald was born St Cuthbert's, Edinburgh. 1871 he is near Liverpool, and dies at the same address in 1876. His wife Catherine was born circa 1809 Beverley, Yorkshire. Any help would be much appreciated. Best wishes, Helen ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% DO NOT send files as Email attachments to the list. Send them privately - person to person. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

    07/18/2004 03:31:08
    1. Re: Fw: [D-G LIST] MIs of St.Michael's/Henderson
    2. Fiona Garrett

    3. Hi Donna, In the 1841 Dumfries booklet entries are this - Address - 13 English Street, Dumfries Peter Henderson shoemaker age 50 Jannet Henderson age 20 Grace Henderson age 16 Elizabeth Henderson age 16 Alice Henderson age 11 Sorry no Elizabeth Henderson - mother, have you tried the 1851 census on-line at www.dumgal.gov.uk Hope this helps Fiona -------Original Message------- From: carruthers - home Date: 07/18/04 03:26:59 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fw: [D-G LIST] MIs of St.Michael's/Henderson I have a Edward Hamilton Aitken in my line 1851-1909 also related to this line is : Alice,Daniel Edward,Douglas,Francis Mary,James, & Elizabeth Hamilton Please contact me if you need Dates of any of these names recognised rgds Ian Carruthers Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] MIs of St.Michael's/Henderson > Hi David > Where is St Michaels in Dumfrieshire or Galloway? > I have HENDERSON family from the village of Dumfries- Peter HENDERSON b @ > 1791 who married Elizabeth AITKEN 29 Dec 1816 in Dumfries. I can not find > Peter anywhere. Peter and Elizabeth's chn are Janet Crosbie HENDERSON > c8/11/1817, > John Aitken HENDERSON- can't find his christening, Elizabeth Grant HENDERSON > c 27 April 1824,Grace HENDERSON 15 June 1827,Alexandrina Aitken HENDERSON12 > April 1829 . > Any info welcomed! > Donna Aitken ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== FIND YOUR ANCESTORS http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/

    07/18/2004 03:16:42
    1. Where is St Michaels?
    2. Bruce and Donna Aitken

    3. Hi Ian I haven't found any Hamiltons in the family tree so far, but Margaret ,ofcourse, is very common in all family trees. Wish there were some HAMILTONS though, after watching Todd Hamilton playing in the British open (golf) today- What a nice man he seems to be from a small town in America. I was hopingMichael Campbell (from my home country of New Zealand) would do better. But I am digressing- I will certainly keep your Margaret in my files-Thanks By the way- no one has answered my original question- where is St Michaels. Bye from Donna in Beautiful British Columbia, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "carruthers - home" <home@zim.co.zw> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: July 18, 2004 1:56 AM Subject: Fw: [D-G LIST] MIs of St.Michael's/Henderson > I have a Edward Hamilton Aitken in my line 1851-1909 > also related to this line is : > Alice,Daniel Edward,Douglas,Francis Mary,James, & Elizabeth Hamilton > Please contact me if you need Dates of any of these names recognised > rgds > Ian Carruthers > > Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] MIs of St.Michael's/Henderson > > > > Hi David > > Where is St Michaels in Dumfrieshire or Galloway? > > I have HENDERSON family from the village of Dumfries- Peter HENDERSON b @ > > 1791 who married Elizabeth AITKEN 29 Dec 1816 in Dumfries. I can not find > > Peter anywhere. Peter and Elizabeth's chn are Janet Crosbie HENDERSON > > c8/11/1817, > > John Aitken HENDERSON- can't find his christening, Elizabeth Grant > HENDERSON > > c 27 April 1824,Grace HENDERSON 15 June 1827,Alexandrina Aitken > HENDERSON12 > > April 1829 . > > Any info welcomed! > > Donna Aitken > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > FIND YOUR ANCESTORS > http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/ >

    07/18/2004 01:04:27
    1. Re: [D-G LIST] Where is St Michaels?

    3. If you want to see St. Michael's church and graveyard use the the hyperlink below. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/Dumfries/dfs-ndx.htm This gives a short photographic tour of St.Michael's Graveyard. For a longer tour of Dumfries and Galloway graveyards use the photo index. Sandy

    07/17/2004 11:17:11
    1. 1841 Archibald KAY
    2. Lavendersblue

    3. Hello listers, If any one has got easy access to the 1841 census would you please have a look for Archibald KAY age approx 27 years, possibly a gardener. He may have his wife Catherine with him, and you never know there may be others? I have got the Moffat town, and the Moffat land, but he's not in there. He is in Dumfries in 1851 with Catherine and his nephew Richardson McKemy b.England. Archibald was born St Cuthbert's, Edinburgh. 1871 he is near Liverpool, and dies at the same address in 1876. His wife Catherine was born circa 1809 Beverley, Yorkshire. Any help would be much appreciated. Best wishes, Helen

    07/17/2004 03:52:13
    1. Re: [D-G LIST] Balmaghie, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
    2. Dan MacMeekin

    3. I don't think there are any pre-1800 events in the batch number series M118571 (C118571) - M118579 (C118579). Only the batches ending in 1, 2, and 4 have any content at all and it seems to be all post-1800. ("seems" - I'm looking at notes made a long time ago and haven't rechecked the IGI website.) Perhaps there are batches in another number sequence out there somewhere? Cheers. Dan MacMeekin ---- christine <christine1945@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi everyone > Does anyone know the batch number (if there is one)for the above on IGI for > pre 1800 > Christine > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 14/07/2004 > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > ********************************************************************* > If you have any problems with this list or any of its members please > contact the listowner....Tom Welch....tomas@directcon.net > ******************************************************************** > > >

    07/17/2004 02:58:33
    1. New List Member - Surname interests are Howat(son), Menzies, Baxter, Grierson
    2. Chris S

    3. Hello to all, I am fairly new to this list after discovering some links to Dumfries. I'm not familiar with the Dumfries area as most of my research has been in Glasgow, Bute, or Perthshire. My ggg grandfather was William Howat(son). He was born abt 1821 in Dumfries to John Howat(son) and Agnes Grierson. He married Janet Menzies in 1846. Janet's parents were John Menzies and Margaret Baxter. William was a blacksmith, like his father John. William & Janet had 10 children, one of which was my gg grandmother Mary. I believe they were in Dumfries up until 1868 at least. By 1881 they were in Glasgow, and seemed to stay there until their deaths in 1892 and 1893. I don't know why they seem to have changed their name from Howatson (while in Dumfries) to Howat (once they arrived in Glasgow). Anyone have any ideas on this? I would like to find more information on William & Janet's parents, as all I have are their names & occupation. Can someone advise where I can find MI lists for the Dumfries area? Christine in Toronto

    07/17/2004 02:16:46
    1. Introduction
    2. Louise Allan

    3. Just saying hi. Joined the list today and already enjoying reading everyone's posts. I only recently discovered my family's links to Dumfries although I was aware of the links the name had with the area. I'm researching Lockhart primarily... so far from Tundergarth, Applegarth and Wamphray... and also Graham as my Grt Grt Grt Grt Grandmother's name (pheww!! lol). Was delighted to find another avenue for sharing information. Still learning about the area which I don't know terribly well. Look forward to "chatting" to everyone. Louise (in Livingston)

    07/17/2004 12:05:45
    1. Fw: [D-G LIST] MIs of St.Michael's/Henderson
    2. carruthers - home

    3. I have a Edward Hamilton Aitken in my line 1851-1909 also related to this line is : Alice,Daniel Edward,Douglas,Francis Mary,James, & Elizabeth Hamilton Please contact me if you need Dates of any of these names recognised rgds Ian Carruthers Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] MIs of St.Michael's/Henderson > Hi David > Where is St Michaels in Dumfrieshire or Galloway? > I have HENDERSON family from the village of Dumfries- Peter HENDERSON b @ > 1791 who married Elizabeth AITKEN 29 Dec 1816 in Dumfries. I can not find > Peter anywhere. Peter and Elizabeth's chn are Janet Crosbie HENDERSON > c8/11/1817, > John Aitken HENDERSON- can't find his christening, Elizabeth Grant HENDERSON > c 27 April 1824,Grace HENDERSON 15 June 1827,Alexandrina Aitken HENDERSON12 > April 1829 . > Any info welcomed! > Donna Aitken

    07/17/2004 09:56:36
    1. Re: [D-G LIST] Where is St Michaels?

    3. Donna, St. Michael's Church is located in Dumfries on St. Michael's Street at the northeast corner of St. Michael's St. and Brooms Road. It is now called St. Michael's & South and Townhead, resulting from the union of the two congregations in October 1983 after the South and Townhead Church closed. It is the oldest church in Dumfries; the current structure dates from 1746 when it was rebuilt. A Christian church has stood on this site for over 1300 years. It is believed that a sanctuary established by St. Ninian (circa 390 AD) also occupied this site and, even further back, it was a Druid worship site. It has about 3,000 memorial stones. Among the notables buried there is of course, Robert Burns and his wife Jean Armour. Dr. & Mrs. James Crichton, founder of the Crichton Royal Hospital, are also buried here. The common graves of the victims of the 1832 and 1848 cholera epidemics are also within the walls of the churchyard. I could go on and on, but will stop here. A truly fascinating place to visit and worship in if you ever have the chance to holiday in Dumfries. I've had the honor of doing so back in 1998 and 1999. Yours aye, John Jardine Cincinnati, Ohio USA D&G FHS Member #1918 Alba mo dhuthaich gu deireadh mo la! (Scotland my homeland forever!) JARDINE/JARDEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Annan, Applegarth, Wamphray, Torthorwald, Collin, Racks, Cummertrees, Powfoot, Mouswald, Kirkmichael, Templand; GREEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; RAE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; MOFFAT in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; McMILLAN in Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, Irongray; HALLIDAY in Irongray; BRODIE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; DICKSON in Mouswald; HOPE in Annan; JOHNSTON(E) in Applegarth, Kirkpatrick-Juxta; PORTEOUS in Applegarth; RICHARDSON in Applegarth

    07/17/2004 09:38:40
    1. Re: [D-G LIST] Where is St Michaels?

    3. In a message dated 17/07/2004 20:10:15 GMT Daylight Time, BruceandDonnaAitken@shaw.ca writes: where is St Michaels. St Michaels church is in St Michaels Street _http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=297500&Y=575000&width= 700&height=400&gride=297686.375486732&gridn=576278.929556002&srec=0&coordsys=g b&db=freegaz&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap =&table=&ovtype=&scale=50000&multimap.x=358&multimap.y=160_ (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=297500&Y=575000&width=700&height=400&gri de=297686.375486732&gridn=576278.929556002&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=freegaz&addr1 =&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&s cale=50000&multimap.x=358&multimap.y=160) the black circle with the cross on top in the middle of the map and slightly to the left and above of the word Mausoleum is St Michael's church

    07/17/2004 09:29:12
    1. Balmaghie, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
    2. christine

    3. Hi everyone Does anyone know the batch number (if there is one)for the above on IGI for pre 1800 Christine --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 14/07/2004

    07/17/2004 08:25:57
    1. Re: MIs of St.Michael's
    2. Pam Fallon-Cousins

    3. This is a great offer by both of you. The St Michael MI are my next steps with one particular line. The key people are... William Thomson who was born ~1775 and died 17/11/1866 he was the farmer at Rashgill Farm his children were baptised at St Michaels so th eopresumption is he is buried there. His wife is the elusive one. He was "married" to Agnes Coltart as per these kirk sessions "Dumfries Kirk of Sessions 26/02/1808: Irregular marriage last whitsunside; paid £1 fine to poor. Ref: CH2/537/10 p293" William was widowed prior to 1841. I would be hugely interested in anything about Agnes and William, especially Agnes. Thanks in advance, Pam Date sent: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:08:35 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: "David Brown" <dbccon@ntlworld.com> To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: MIs of St.Michael's > > Hi List > > Isn't it strange how things happen I also have a copy of Memorials of St > Michael's by William M'dowall and I have just finished scanning it on my > computer and opened my E-Mali to inform the list of this and find that Nancy > in NJ has also got a copy and as this is a rare book printed in 1876 its > very strange coincidence indeed. > The book is indexed with about 600 surnames and makes fascinating reading > the Memorials go up to about 1873 and there is quiet a lot about local > characters not just the rich and famous.If anybody would like me to look for > their ancestors I would be more than welcome to do so, William M'dowall does > not put all of the people on the memorials and on a lot he just says ex > number of children > > Best Regards > David Brown > Manchester UK > > dbccon@ntlworld.com > > Researching Wrights - Taits - Cowan - Jardine - Selkirk - Anderson - Barron - Blake - Milligan - Breck - Irvine and Kennedy all Dumfries area > > ______________________________

    07/17/2004 06:40:30