Thank you all for the replies. Does any one know how to access info about the 1601 Testament of Robert Gordon? Tried Scottish Documents & could not reach the site. Yvette, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Horbury" <bdhys@mighty-micro.co.uk> To: "ymuir1706" <ymuir1706@rogers.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] Douglas > Plot #227 in Carsphairn says...Erected by JAMES GORDON i.m.o. his > grandfather JAMES GORDON and AGNES DUNN his spouse who both perished in > passing the burn at Lambloch House -? 08 1752 & also father WILLIAM GORDON > 18.7.1783 age 59 & MARRY (SIC) GORDON his spouse d. 15.1.1778 (no age given) > Also on the west side. > imo ROBERT GORDON d Carsphairn village 19.10.1872 age 75. > > There is also a note that the Testament of ROBERT GORDON in Knockgray, > spouse MARGT. MCMINN, dated 1601 is in the Commissariot of Edinburgh. > Testaments after 1606 were dealt with by the Commissariot of Kirkcudbroght. > Barbara > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "ymuir1706" <ymuir1706@rogers.com> > To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:32 PM > Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] Douglas > > > Our DOUGLAS ancestor is still a mystery. Mary Douglas married William > > Gordon. We are told that an MI @ Carsphairn says Mary died 15 Jan 1778,

Hello Listers, I am trying to locate the family of James Kenyon & Elizabeth Hood in the 1861 Census. They had children, Christina, Grace, James & Agnes- born between 1841 & 1855. At the time of the 1851 Census they were in Whithorn & by 1871 in Gatehouse of Fleet. Unfortunately I have not been able to find them at either place in the '61! Have I just overlooked them or were they elsewhere? I would greatly appreciate any offers of a search - am willing to reciprocate in Cumberland. Jo Brown

Hi David: I saw many familiar names on your list such as: Bell - 274 burials Tait - 8 Jardine - 10 Johnson - 2 Johnston - 6 Maxwell - 1 These are some of the names found on grave stones in Middlebie Parish in Dumfries. If you are interested I can send them off list as attachments. Let me know. Stuart Livingstone Brown - Cornwallis Nova Scotia Canada Johnston - 47 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Brown" <dbccon@ntlworld.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Marriages in Dumfries > Hi List > > I have just received a page from the Register of Proclamations of Bans and > Marriages for the parish of Dumfries in the county of Dumfries > > Aug 5: 1759 John Greirson (dyer) & Susanna Cairns daughter of Robert > Cairns of Barnbarrach in the parish of Colvend > > Aug 12: 1759 Robert Harries (taylor) & Winnifred Mills relic of Samuel > Johnston both of this place > > Aug 12: 1759 Joseph Johnston (taylor) & Katherine Glendinning daughter of > the deceased Thomas Glendinning both of this place > > Sept 30: 1759 John Corvan son of the deceased Nathanial Corvan & Euphant > Muir daughter of Robert Muir both in this place > > Sept 30: 1759 James Reid (labourer) son of Robert Reid in this place & > Marrion Haining daughter of John Haining in the parish of Mousewald > > Oct 7: 1759 John Wightman in this place & Jean Graham daughter of John > graham in the parish of Totherwald > > Oct 20 1759 James Wright in the parish of Carverock son of the deceased > James Wright in the parish of Traqueer & Isabel Rae daughter of the deceased > John Rae in this place > > Nov 11 1759 Adam Black (gardener) & Mary Hall daughter of the deceased > David Hall in the parish of Dunfermling both of this parish > > Nov 18 1759 John Crosbie (weaver) son of the deceased Andrew Crosbie & > Agnes Scott daughter of the deceased John Scott in the parish of Orr both in > this place > > Best Regards > David Brown > Manchester UK > dbccon@ntlworld.com > Researching Wright - Tait - Cowan - Jonstone - Selkirk- Maxwell - Wallace - > McDowall - Jardine - Bell - Geddes - Blake - Milligan and Saunders all from > Dumfries 1800's > > ______________________________

Hi: The Freemasons use a different calendar, 5926 is the Masonic Year whereas 1926 is the standard calendar year. This represents the year he was made a Mason. Hope this helps. Stuart Livingstone Brown - Cornwallis Nova Scotia Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Ritchie" <iritchie1@iprimus.com.au> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 3:59 AM Subject: Freemasons > Hi everyone, > My father,Herbert Ritchie,(b.1901;d.1992) spent three years in Canada from > 1924 to 1927 when he was obliged to return to England due to the illness of > his sister and mother both of whom subsequently died. He never returned to > Canada but,whilst there,on 15th October,1926,he was inducted into the > Freemasons - Valleyfield Lodge No.75. My brother in UK has the diploma which > is written in Latin with the recurring number - 5926,which we think could be > his membership number. My query is,would there be any information available > regarding his connection to the Freemasons that may be available to family > members? > Also,if anyone has come across one of these diplomas from the period,( this > one is headed 'The Grand Lodge of Quebec'), and has a translation of the > latin text, I would be very interested in a transcription. > > Ian Ritchie >

Hi List Looking for the mother of James Wright born 1734 Dumfries father was James James Wright 1734 married Isabel Rae/Roe Oct 1759 children were John - David - Elizabeth - Ann Costin - Johnathan and William Best Regards David Brown Manchester UK dbccon@ntlworld.com Researching Wrights - Taits - Cowan - Jardine - Selkirk - Anderson - Barron - Blake - Milligan - Breck - Irvine and Kennedy all Dumfries area

Hi List Looking for the mother of Robert Tait born about 1775 his father was John Tait and Robert was Married to Mary Selkirk children were John- Agnes - Ann - Robert - Margaret - Jean and George Best Regards David Brown Manchester UK dbccon@ntlworld.com Researching Wrights - Taits - Cowan - Jardine - Selkirk - Anderson - Barron - Blake - Milligan - Breck - Irvine and Kennedy all Dumfries area

Can anyone assist me with any information on: James McCARTNEY who married Agnes MANARY on 28 April 1848 in Dumfries. I need to be able to find his date of birth and where. These are my g.g.grandparents. James McCARTNEY son of the above, born Dumfries in 1854, who married Agnes PIRNIE on 9 November 1876 in North Leith. I am trying to find out his date of birth. James is my g.grandfather On his marriage certificate it states that both parents are deceased. Any assistance will be gratefully received. Andrew

In article <cd.1206b4c4.2e32d60e@aol.com>, DFSGAL@aol.com writes >Response to Dean Black's posting > >I can offer you three GUN(N)ION monumental Inscriptions all around Thornhill >but one with a Kirkbean connection. >1. >Location:    Morton Cemetery, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire >Sacred to the Memory of >Jane GUNION, beloved wife of James HASTINGS, who died at Thornhill 4th >2. >Also Mary GUNION his wife, who died at 36 New Street, Thornhill, 25th >November 1894 aged 75 years These two Gunions are sisters, daughters of James Gunnion and Mary Craik. He died in 1838 aged 43 and is buried in New Abbey with her (died 1868) and one of their sons. This is my line (and there's a few of us about these groups!) Unfortunately we can't yet connect James to any other Gunnions though there must be siblings or cousins in the area. He & wife Mary had at least 2 children in Kirkbean in the 1820s then went to Dumfries for a while - Ruthwell & Caerlaverock. there's lots of Gunnions over there. The Jane Hamilton (nee Gunnion) was the daughter of James Gunnion and Jane Hyslop. I don't have anything in my Gunion notes about you Ellen though, sorry. Jill McKenzie, Glasgow

Hi all just got back from Dumfries trying to fined my Douglas clan this might interest some one out there with a Douglas connection picked up a few bits and bobs and will post them all when I get through what is relevant and what is rubbish Clachan of Penningham Wigtownshire Here lies William Douglas in Bridgetown who died October 12 1753 age 74 years also her lies the corps of Sarah McHarg his spouse who died Feby the 20 1767 age 80 Hear lies the corpse of William Douglas their eldest son who died Wigtown 21 march 1788 age 71 and also the corpse of Jean Mckie his spouse who died march 12 1789 age 83 and also their son William Douglas who died 27 April 1805 age 60 hope this might help someone Audrey

In the 1851 Census for Dorchester High St there should be some four or more Hartleys. James Hartley age56?Born Scotland Tea Dealer John Hartley age 25? Born Scotland Tea Dealer. There are more and would like them all please.Thanks John

Will save this for future reference. Thanks. Our DOUGLAS ancestor is still a mystery. Mary Douglas married William Gordon. We are told that an MI @ Carsphairn says Mary died 15 Jan 1778, William died 17 July 1783, both born circa 1724. There were 2 children: Agnes Gordon born 1762, m David McJerrow, died 1851; James Gordon died after 1783. If some one has the Carsphairn MIs would appreciate the exact wording . Does anyone know of our Mary? Yvette ----- Original Message ----- From: "audrey render" <audrey.render@ntlworld.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:43 AM Subject: [D-G LIST] Douglas > just got back from Dumfries trying to fined my Douglas clan this might interest some one out there with a Douglas connection picked up a few bits and bobs and will post them all when I get through what is relevant and what is rubbish > > Clachan of Penningham Wigtownshire > Here lies William Douglas in Bridgetown who died October 12 1753 age 74 years also her lies the corps of Sarah McHarg his spouse who died Feby the 20 1767 age 80 Hear lies the corpse of William Douglas their eldest son who died Wigtown 21 march 1788 age 71 and also the corpse of Jean Mckie his spouse who died march 12 1789 age 83 and also their son William Douglas who died 27 April 1805 age 60 > hope this might help someone > Audrey >

How can I obtain a copy of this,also any other dirctories for merchants and trades for 1837 to 1850.

Email me at cbeck@ll.net I have a William Davidson b ca l800 of Dumfrieshire. Please email me for more details. Thank you. Connie

John, Can't help you with those Hartley names listed below I can offer you two MIs I have which mention one Hartley in each. They may be of interest, again they may not. Chances that someone might claim some of the other names mentioned. 1. Location: Mochrum, Wigtownshire Ref: J.E. Birchman, "Mochrum Memorial Inscriptions" (1979) Erected by the family In Memory of Their mother Agnes HARTLEY, wife of John COLTER, who died 4th Octr 1874 aged 44 years Also their grand-father William HARTLEY, who died 29th Novr 1874 aged 76 years Also their brother Henry Hamilton COLTER, who died 6th Sepr 1875 aged 12 years Also their grand-mother Helen MARTIN, who died 12th Decr 1879 aged 73 years Also their father John COLTER, who died at Salford 10th Sepr 1886 aged 58 years, and was interred in Salford Cemetery Also their sister Mary Martin COLTER, who died in Edinburgh 13th Feb 1895 aged 25 years, and was interred in Seafield Cemetery Also their sister Janet Douglas COLTER, wife of Walter SCOTT, who died in Glasgow 7th Novr 1895 aged 34 years, and was interred in Janefield Cemetery Also their niece Helen PHILLIPS, and daughter of Peter PHILLIPS, died at High Milton 24th March 1909 aged 23 years Also Sarah Jane COLTER, who died at Hillcrest, Portwilliam, 27th May 1940 2. Location: Penninghame (Old) Graveyard, Newton Stewart, Wigtownshire Ref: DGFHS, "Penninghame (Old) Graveyard Memorial Inscriptions" (2003) Erected by Thomas MAIR, clothier, Newton Stewart In Memory of His beloved mother Annie HARTLEY, wife of James MAIR, who died at Killiemore 10th April 1882 aged 75 years Also his father James MAIR, who died 26th June 1885 aged 84 years > > In the 1851 Census for Dorchester High St there should be > some four or more Hartleys. > James Hartley age 56?Born Scotland Tea Dealer > John Hartley age 25? Born Scotland Tea Dealer. > There are more and would like them all please.Thanks John >

Response to Dean Black's posting I can offer you three GUN(N)ION monumental Inscriptions all around Thornhill but one with a Kirkbean connection. Since this name would sound the same whether one N or two, or Y or IO, you may wish to consider them all. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1. Location:    Morton Cemetery, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire Sacred to the Memory of Jane GUNION, beloved wife of James HASTINGS, who died at Thornhill 4th February 1894 aged 63 years Also the above James HASTINGS, who died at Thornhill 21st May 1902 aged 71 years Also Agnes Gunion HASTINGS their daughter, wife of Andrew STRATTON, who died at Thornhill 30th January 1931 aged 67 years 2. Location:    Morton Cemetery, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire Sacred to the Memory of William RAE, who died at New Street, Thornhill, 14th December 1891 in his 91st year Also his son James RAE, who died at Goldenhill, Isle of Wight, on the 18th February 1871 aged 22 years Also his daughter Martha RAE, wife of W. H. Jewell, who died at Halifax, Yorkshire, 18th June 1893 aged 34 years,interred there Also his daughter Mary RAE, wife of W. WALKER, who died at Carsethorn 9th March 1894 aged 42 years, interred in Kirkbean churchyard Also Mary GUNION his wife, who died at 36 New Street, Thornhill, 25th November 1894 aged 75 years Also his eldest daughter Jessie RAE, wife of Capt. George BEATTIE, died at Lilliesleaf, Selkirk, 22nd March 1930 aged 84 years Also Marion RAE, his fourth daughter, and wife of John HASTINGS, late of Temperance Hotel, Thornhill, died at 7 Dalgarnock Place 4th August 1940 aged 84 years Also William RAE, grandson of the above, who died at 7 Dalgarnock Place 10th January 1955 aged 78 years Also Elizabeth SHANNON, wife of the above William RAE, died 11th February 1967 aged 76 years 3. Location:    Greenhead Cemetery, Thornhill, Dumfriesshire Ref:    Manpower Services Commission, "Greenhead MI Transcriptions" (1970) In Memory of Mary Jane HASTINGS, daughter of James HASTINGS and Jane Gunnion, who died at Thornhill 13 Feb 1865 aged 5 years and 4 months Also Jane HASTINGS their daughter, who died in infancy Aso Samuel HASTINGS their son, who died at Thornhill 31 October 1873 aged 19 years Also Marion HASTINGS their daughter, who died at Thornhill 13 March 1876 aged 20 years ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New Abbey, Kirkbean and Kirkgunzeon are all adjoining Parishes in Kirkcudbrightshire but Thornhill (Morton Parish) is in Dumfrieshire.  But don't let that put you off a connection, the distances aren't all that great. Sandy -------------- Snip from Original E-mail ----------------------- > > Following my request for information concerning an Ellen Gunnan (1773-1842) > in my family tree I have since received information concerning a GUNNYAN > burial in plot 4 in Kells for JANNET GUNNYAN died Oct 1766 age 66, wife of > John Shaw of Holmhead and their family. There is also a GUNNYON d. 1904 in > plot 154 Kirkgunzeon; married to John Ferguson. There is also a Gunzion in > Kirkbean, Jane, died 1856 age 76, wife of Alex Hamilton, and quite a lot in > New Abbey. > > Can anyone provide me any more information pertaining to these interesting > revelations ? > >

Hi everyone, Hope you are all well. I am struggling again, with a look-up for 1881. This time its RIDDLE (or RIDDELL), The story so far - Alexander RIDDLE and Mary KENNEDY had the following children: Anariah RIDDLE born 1863 Alexander RIDDLE born 16/8/1865 Jemima RIDDLE born 1868 Matilda RIDDLE born 1876 Rebecca RIDDLE born 1879 ALL IN DUMFRIES, DUMFRIESHIRE So far on 1881 census have found - Anariah married to John PILES with sisters Jemima, Matilda and Rebecca and their grandmother Jane KENNEDY. Have been unable to find parents or Alexander in Dumfries. How difficult is it to search the whole of the UK for these people? The lady at the library yesterday didn't help much, but think she kept picking the Lowlands CD all the time. She did find one Alexander, but he was the son of William RIDDELL. Can anyone please help me? I wouldn't have thought that Mary would have been that far away from home on census night, considering that Rebecca is only 2 years old. Take care Fiona Down Under

Further to my earlier e-mail re-directories: The DGFHS Website has a section about Trades Directories, Place Names and such. Try looking at: http://www.research-centre.freeola.com/Ian-Anderson/index.htm There is also a link to DGNHAS site from these pages. Sandy

G'day , I have a George GRACIE was educated about 1815 at Wallace Hall, Closeburn, Dumfries, SCT. I gather that the school is now in the Closeburn Primary School but I wonder if there is a register or other document that lists pupils during the early part of the 19th century. There may have also been other brothers at the time. A secondary question is what sort of fees would have been required. Although his father died with an estate of only £118-15-7 he did have the ownership (lease) of two houses in Thornhill and "had seen better times". Mike CALDER http://members.optusnet.com.au/mikecalder/ Researching: CALDER, DIXON, TUSON, GRACIE D&GFHS #2979

Could this please be replied to on the List as I, too, am interested in this. Thank you. Jessie Newlands in B.C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "carruthers - home" <home@zim.co.zw> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 9:02 PM Subject: [D-G LIST] Closeburn Carruthers > Would be interested in any Info. on > > CLOSEBURN or PARK VILLAGE or Dalgarnock cemetery > near thornhill..................Dumfriesshire Scotland. > Relating to CARRUTHERS (Shoemakers)1820-1900 > Lived at no 52 Closeburn/Park Village > **************************************************************************** ******** > Spouses names: McDonald ,Murray, Swan,Shaw,Lister, Davis,Redfern. > Thank you > Ian Carruthers > Zimbabwe > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > ******************************************************************** > To UNSUBSCRIBE > send a message to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail > mode) or DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) with > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body. NO subject, NO signature. > ************************************************************************ >

Following my request for information concerning an Ellen Gunnan (1773-1842) in my family tree I have since received information concerning a GUNNYAN burial in plot 4 in Kells for JANNET GUNNYAN died Oct 1766 age 66, wife of John Shaw of Holmhead and their family. There is also a GUNNYON d. 1904 in plot 154 Kirkgunzeon; married to John Ferguson. There is also a Gunzion in Kirkbean, Jane, died 1856 age 76, wife of Alex Hamilton, and quite a lot in New Abbey. Can anyone provide me any more information pertaining to these interesting revelations ? Dean Black 123 Ivy Avenue Renfrew, ON Canada K7V 4C9