Hallo again to all of you I have received quite a few replies to my previous request but I have not yet solved my SCOTT questions. The following two SCOTT brothers died a few years apart and are both buried in Southwick / Colvend >Andrew SCOTT baptised 27 Oct 1814 Urr died 27 Oct 1837 Glencaple Quay >Robert SCOTT baptised 8 Apr 1817 Urr died 13 Oct 1839 Sheffield Would I be able to get official Death Certificates for them or was 1837/1839 before official registration. Alternatively would I find any Death Notices in publications of those years ? I would like to establish whether the two brothers were married and whether they had any children. Any help would be appreciated. Kind regards Dennis Pretorius Commercial Genealogical Researcher/Kommersiële Genealogiese Navorser List Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: Krugersdorp@pixie.co.za Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-324-2238

In a message dated 17/08/2004 21:31:57 GMT Daylight Time, krugersdorp@pixie.co.za writes: The following two SCOTT brothers died a few years apart and are both buried in Southwick / Colvend >Andrew SCOTT baptised 27 Oct 1814 Urr died 27 Oct 1837 Glencaple Quay >Robert SCOTT baptised 8 Apr 1817 Urr died 13 Oct 1839 Sheffield Would I be able to get official Death Certificates for them or was 1837/1839 before official registration. Alternatively would I find any Death Notices in publications of those years ? I would like to establish whether the two brothers were married and whether they had any children. Andrew will not have a death certificate because SR in Scotland didn't start till 1855. Robert may have a death cert because SR started in England in mid 1837............... however English death certificates give very little information compared to Scottish SR ones..and definitely do not give you the names of the parents of the deceased. Not all deaths were registered in England even after SR began. But Robert should appear in a burial register ..the english were more diligent in keeping those. Which parish is Glencaple Quay in?. Irene

Hi Audrey, In this context 'loaning' almost certainly means lane. Probably an unsurfaced and therefore 'green' lane. I'm not familiar with area of Greenbrae and unfortunately your note doesn't give me enough information to find it, but I would take a look at 'old-maps' and you'll probably find it's marked. Regards Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "audrey render" <audrey.render@ntlworld.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 1:26 PM Subject: [D-G LIST] re Greenbrae loaning > Hi > today I received a birth cert I had hoped it would give me the name of a street but once again its given me nothing to go on > the birth was for my dads cousin I thought it would lead me to my great grandmother on the cert for place of birth it just says Greenbrae loaning Greenbrae I asked about this place when I first found it but why does the cert not give the street name as other cert do the cert is for a birth in 1886 > Audrey > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > FIND YOUR ANCESTORS > http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/ > >

Hi today I received a birth cert I had hoped it would give me the name of a street but once again its given me nothing to go on the birth was for my dads cousin I thought it would lead me to my great grandmother on the cert for place of birth it just says Greenbrae loaning Greenbrae I asked about this place when I first found it but why does the cert not give the street name as other cert do the cert is for a birth in 1886 Audrey

Barbara, David McKay's wife was Margaret McKenzie. Believe they would have emigrated 1840-44. I can't find them in 1841 census for Scotland so they may have left by then. They ended up in Middlesex and Norfolk Cos., Ontario. I'd like to determine his parentage. Any John or Angus McKay emigrating about then to the same place? Or his siblings that I mentioned before? Thank you so much for your help. Chris

Hello Christine, I have looked thru both volumes of A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants To Canada Before Confederation,1867, by Whyte, There is one ONE Burke Listed. Page 31 #871 BURKE, Edward ca 1777-Jan. 1839. To Halifax, NS and died there. (That's all there is) NO mention of wife or children) As for David McKay, and his Father Angus, there are about 15 Angus McKays, and it is not possible to 'pin down' which one he would be. Also looked for David McKay. With these names, I need more details. Do you have a wife's name? That would help. Also if they emigrated after 1867, it would not be in these books. If you want to send me more details, I will give it another try, Sorry I could not be of much help, Barb in BC blogan@shaw.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Draisey" <cdraisey@mchsi.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 7:15 AM Subject: [D-G LIST] Emmigrants to Canada > I'm interested in finding out if the following (dates are approximate) are mentioned in Donald Whyte's books, "A Dictionary of Scottish Emmigrants to Canada" - > (1) BURKE / BURK, JOHN > b. 1806, place unknown > children: PETER, DONALD, RODERICK, SARAH > > (2) McKAY, DAVID > b. 1816, probably Urquhart, Ross & Cromarty > siblings also emigrated: JOHN (1805), HUGH (1808), PETER (1818) > father: ANGUS (?) > Really appreciative of your help. > Chris > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > If your line involves the surname GRAHAM why not join > CLAN-GRAHAM-L@rootsweb.com and find out more. > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >

Hallo All I have not paid much attention to my SCOTT ancestors from D and G but now need to follow-up on a few questions. I have a Robert SCOTT x Elizabeth McJORE. Robert born abt 1781 married abt 1814 and died Ryes, Southwick 15 Dec 1844 Elizabeth born 21 Sep 1784 Lochrutton, Kircudbright died 10 Mar 1862, Bognow, Southwick The above couple had 8 children but I have an interest in the following two: Andrew SCOTT baptised 27 Oct 1814 Urr died 27 Oct 1837 Glencaple Quay Robert SCOTT baptised 8 Apr 1817 Urr died 13 Oct 1839 Sheffield. I would like to find out whether these two sons were married and had children before they died at 22 and 23 years respectively. My particular interest is in finding the father of a Samuel SCOTT who was born about 1839 in "Dumfries" and left for South Africa about 1858 never to return to Scotland. I would appreciate to hear from anybody who has links to the above family Kind regards from South Africa Dennis Pretorius Commercial Genealogical Researcher/Kommersiële Genealogiese Navorser List Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: Krugersdorp@pixie.co.za Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-324-2238

One more web site for headstones. http://www.ogsottawa.on.ca/ While the Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid is good, it hasn't been updated for many years. There are some of the Ontario Genealogical Society branches that didn't participate and so some counties are missing completely. The Ottawa branch is putting an index to it's transcriptions online at the site above. On both these sites, the letters and numbers represent the branch and publication number if you wish to purchase the complete transcription or you can request a look up from the branch (for a fee; check the branch site). Links to all the branches can be found at: http://www.ogs.on.ca/ You can also request look ups on this site once you know the cemetery: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/CA-ONT-CEMETERIES.html Good hunting, Linda

Hi, Jeannette - Which McGeorges are you looking for, and which do you have already? I am looking for parents for a William (and also siblings of his) reputed to have been born in Kirkpatrick-Durham on 18th August 1799. Thanks, Muff On Sunday, August 15, 2004, at 07:00 PM, DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > From: Janpitlochry@aol.com > Date: Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:22:29 AM Atlantic/Reykjavik > To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: AFFLECK MI Puzzle > > > Hi Bill, > > thankyou for your help, and I would be delighted to have your notes on > John > and Robert AFFLECK (Kirkpatrick Durham) also anything on LOCKE and > McGEORGE. > Everything helps to fit it all together. I have found that GELSTON is > sometimes > spelled 'GILSTON' . > Kind Regards > Jeanette > Muff Worden Ranargata 3 710 Seydisfjordur Iceland Phone: +354-472-1775 Mobile/Cell/GSM: +354-849-2744 Web: www.geocities.com/mworden.geo/

One of these one guinea notes is in the Savings Banks Museum in Ruthwell. See www.savingsbanksmuseum.co.uk Rene Anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Calder" <mikecalder@optusnet.com.au> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: [D-G LIST] James GRACIE - Died 23rd April 1814. > G'day , > > I wonder if SKS in Dumfries could, at a convenient time, see if there > was ever an obituary or other newspaper report on the passing of James > GRACIE who died there on 23rd April 1814. > > It would appear that The Dumfries Commercial Bank was set up by James > Gracie in 1804 but failed four years later. The bank was described in > Andrew Kerr's "History of Banking in Scotland" as a "wretched attempt" > at banking. This bank issued Guinea (21/-) and Five Pound notes until > it's ultimate and rather quick sequestering in 1808 with a payout of > 10/- on the Pound. > > Amongst the other details I have already discovered are: > > He may have been born about 1756 at New Abbey, Kirkcudbright. > > He married Jean COWAN about 1777 > > His eldest son was a William GRACIE a Writer to the Signet in Edinburgh. > Another son - John Fraser GRACIE was also a writer in Dumfries. > He had a number of other children. > > He was a great friend of BURNS. > > He was bankrupt. > > I am trying to find his parents and his date of birth - age at death. > > Thanks in advance for anything that is forthcoming. > > > Mike CALDER > http://members.optusnet.com.au/mikecalder/ > Researching: CALDER, DIXON, TUSON, GRACIE > D&GFHS #2979 > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > ********************************** > YOU HAVE ENTERED A FLAME FREE ZONE > ********************************** >

I knew about this web site but hadn't checked for my new found Campbells in Bayfield,Huron Co. Ontario. http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/ I found 27 Campbells buried there and I'm sure most of them,if not all,are direct descendants of my gr.gr.grandmothers brother Malcolm Campbell,born 1802 in Appin Argyle Scotland and died in Bayfield 1883. He moved there in 1844 and is buried in Bayfield cemetery. Thanks for jogging my memory, Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada.

Two more Ontario, Canada sites (with pictures) Northeastern Ontario Canada Gravemarker Gallery http://nocgg.maddoc.net/ Ottawa Area http://www3.sympatico.ca/scott.naylor/Graves/NewIndex/GraveMarker1.HTM Derek Brown > Hi, > > I received this from another list I belong to and thought it might be of > some help to anyone doing research in the U.S. > > <This is one of the 85,724 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com> > > The befuddled mess of gray matter in my head, that I refer to as memory, > seems to recall another two sites, Find a Grave and Virtual Cemetery, both > in the U.S. Does anyone know if there's something comparable to that in > Canada? > > Thanks > > May >

OPPS, This was a bad URL - Should end in dot COM. Corrected one below... www.islandnet.com/ocfa/ This site provides great assistance. -----Original Message----- From: Judy Brunson-Hadley [mailto:bcrs@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:35 PM To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D-G LIST] Re: Cemetery photos U.S.A. Try www.island.net.com/ofca (Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid) for a listing of interments in Ontario. No photos, but it lists over 2 million names. Judy BH ----- Original Message ----- > The befuddled mess of gray matter in my head, that I refer to as memory, > seems to recall another two sites, Find a Grave and Virtual Cemetery, both > in the U.S. Does anyone know if there's something comparable to that in > Canada? > > Thanks > > May > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== FIND YOUR ANCESTORS http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/

Thanks to everyone for the info on Canadian cemeteries. As it happens, I need to check on a few names in Ontario so this will be useful. May

Hi Bill, thankyou for your help, and I would be delighted to have your notes on John and Robert AFFLECK (Kirkpatrick Durham) also anything on LOCKE and McGEORGE. Everything helps to fit it all together. I have found that GELSTON is sometimes spelled 'GILSTON' . Kind Regards Jeanette

Correction, sorry, my fingers and brain didn't connect. The correct URL is www.islandnet.com/ocfa Judy BH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Black" <dcblack@sympatico.ca> To: "Judy Brunson-Hadley" <bcrs@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 6:11 PM Subject: RE: [D-G LIST] Re: Cemetery photos U.S.A. > this url did not work. Did you type it correctly? > > dean > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Brunson-Hadley [mailto:bcrs@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: August 14, 2004 7:35 PM > To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [D-G LIST] Re: Cemetery photos U.S.A. > > > > Try www.island.net.com/ofca (Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid) for a listing of > interments in Ontario. No photos, but it lists over 2 million names. > > Judy BH > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > The befuddled mess of gray matter in my head, that I refer to as memory, > > seems to recall another two sites, Find a Grave and Virtual Cemetery, both > > in the U.S. Does anyone know if there's something comparable to that in > > Canada? > > > > Thanks > > > > May > > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > FIND YOUR ANCESTORS > http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/ >

Try www.island.net.com/ofca (Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid) for a listing of interments in Ontario. No photos, but it lists over 2 million names. Judy BH ----- Original Message ----- > The befuddled mess of gray matter in my head, that I refer to as memory, > seems to recall another two sites, Find a Grave and Virtual Cemetery, both > in the U.S. Does anyone know if there's something comparable to that in > Canada? > > Thanks > > May >

Hi List, Thank you very much for all the help you have given me with the above. I have been on the site and found it very helpful. If I can return the favour, please don't hesitate to ask. Cheers Dilys NZ

I'm interested in finding out if the following (dates are approximate) are mentioned in Donald Whyte's books, "A Dictionary of Scottish Emmigrants to Canada" - (1) BURKE / BURK, JOHN b. 1806, place unknown children: PETER, DONALD, RODERICK, SARAH (2) McKAY, DAVID b. 1816, probably Urquhart, Ross & Cromarty siblings also emigrated: JOHN (1805), HUGH (1808), PETER (1818) father: ANGUS (?) Really appreciative of your help. Chris

Hi, I received this from another list I belong to and thought it might be of some help to anyone doing research in the U.S. <This is one of the 85,724 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com> The befuddled mess of gray matter in my head, that I refer to as memory, seems to recall another two sites, Find a Grave and Virtual Cemetery, both in the U.S. Does anyone know if there's something comparable to that in Canada? Thanks May