I wonder if anyone can tell me about the above index. I was told that this is an index of passport applications (English) and am wondering if this is available on-line or where do I need to go to look at it. I am looking for Thomas BACON who moved from England to USA around 1870-1880 ALSO Daniel CADDELL who moved from Scotland to NY, USA around 1881 many thanks for your time, Christa Le Vine Kent

In a message dated 06/10/2004 21:08:50 GMT Standard Time, griersonworldproject@mail.tqci.net writes: Note: I have often wondered about Whiteside - so now we know, it's in Dunscore, Dumfries-shire. There is a second Whiteside in the Parish of Torthorwald, Dumfriesshire I don't know of any others in in D&G but with placenames like this I wouldn't be surprised if there are many more elsewhere in Scotland. I used to work in Bathgate and I'm sure there was a village called Whiteside near there. Sandy

Hi Pamela, Trying to decipher old Parish records can be difficult, I know, but here goes with your, I guess marriage, in 1682 : >>October 29th 1682. On which day James MERRILIES in Balin: (Ballencrief) and Agnes WILSON in (name of a place) gave their names to (not sure what this is) for the man James MERRILIES elder (senior) and for the woman Jo-seph ? WILSON her father.>>> Good Luck! Maureen in NZ > Hoping someone can help me with the meaning of this Old Parish record > Kind regards Pamela > > October 29th 1682. On wh. day Jas Mirrilies in Balin: (Ballencreif) and Ag. Wilson in ? gave up their names to . Y: caut for man James Mirrilies elder and for the woman Jo: Wilson her fat. > > > > Pamela Thorburn Marshall, Qld, Australia > > > > > - ------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! >

I am looking for any information on the ANNANDALE ESTATE especially up to the mid 1800s. It appears that BLINDBURN is mentioned in their records and this may well be the BLINBURN that we have been looking for for eons Alison in Calgary

Trying to confirm that Ian Mccall (manager of Urquhart Castle) and Wayne McCall (heir to Urquhart Castle) are the sons of Admiral Sir Henry William Urquhart McCall of Ayrshire? Thanks, Ron

Wuth reference to mu earlier message about schools in Dumfries - I do know how to spell appreciate ! Don't know how I managed to spell it with an "s" twice !! Alison >From: "Alison Elliott" <alijelli@hotmail.com> >To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [D-G LIST] schools in Dumfries 1900s >Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:20:00 +0100 > > _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

I am sharing this one below to show the location of Whiteside: Sources: (1) The Times, Saturday, November 4th, 1944; page 1; Issue 49,987; column A. DEATHS--GRIERSON.-- In October, 1944, very peacefully, ISABELLA "BELLA" GRIERSON, in her 88th year, for over 50 years tenant and friend of the Liddell-Simpson family at Whiteside, Dunscore, Dumfries-shire, Scotland. Note: I have often wondered about Whiteside - so now we know, it's in Dunscore, Dumfries-shire. ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.tqci.net --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by mail.tqci.net]

the URL is www.nls.uk go to the digital library. they do of course have many more maps if you visit in person (Causewayside, Edinburgh) and it is worth noting that you dont need a reader's ticket, probably just some ID. Judy ---------- >From: DFSGAL@aol.com >To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] Place Names >Date: 05, Tue Oct, 2004, 10:39 pm > > the maps held by the > National Library of Scotland

> >There is two further source for old maps. One is of the maps held by the >National Library of Scotland and the other is a sort of cooperative where doners >can add their old maps. Unfortunately but I have lost both URLs at >present. That happens when you upgrade systems and think you have archived >everything first, the find you haven't! > >No doubt some one will fill the gap and add the these two URLs to the list >above. > >Cheers, >Sandy > > >==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== >******************************************************************** >To UNSUBSCRIBE >send a message to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail >mode) or DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) with >only the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body. NO subject, NO signature. >************************************************************************ > > > > I think these are what you are after.... Town Plan Maps of Scotland from The National Library for Scotland http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/townplans/index.html Your Maps Online http://www.yourmapsonline.org.uk Regards, David Ford Your Maps Online website owner :-) -- *Old Historical Books on CD.* Trade Directories, Maps, County & Local Interest. http://www.youroldbooksandmaps.co.uk/ Free old UK & Ireland maps online. Your Maps Online http://www,yourmapsonline.org.uk *The *NEW* Your Maps Online CD-2 - Out 1st Sept* Extensive preview page on the website.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_569a_6a29_107b Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello (I have just resubscribed with a new email address) I would appresiate some advice befroe my next trip to Dumfries. My grandfather, James Smith Kynnersley, was sent from Salford to Dumfries in 1899, aged 9, to live with his aunt after the death of his parents. His aunt Margaret Smith lived in Castle Street. My mother would like to find out which school he went to. Does anyone with a knowledge of Dumfrie town have any idea which schools were in the Castle Street area at that time ? He would have attended school from 1899 to about 1905 I think. Did children change schools at 11 or so in those days? I would apprcsiate anone's ideas so that I can narrow down my search a bit! I believe the Ewart Library has some school records (?) Thanks Alison _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------=_NextPart_000_569a_6a29_107b Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from [80.46.140.133] by mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:27:30 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:27:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4157BB31000183C3@mk-cpfrontend-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com> From: "Alison Elliott" <Alison_J@handbag.com> Subject: FW: schools in Dumfries in 1900? To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="========/4157BB31000183C3/mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com" --========/4157BB31000183C3/mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable __________________________________________________________________ Get Tiscali Broadband From =A315:99 http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadbandhome/ --========/4157BB31000183C3/mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from [80.43.199.146] by mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:09:41 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:09:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4149A83E0005E051@mk-cpfrontend-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com> From: "Alison Elliott" <Alison_J@handbag.com> Subject: schools in Dumfries in 1900? To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello I would appreciate some advice before my next trip to Dumfries. My grandfather waws sent to Dumfries from Manchester in 1899 aged 9 to li= ve with an aunt, following the death of his parents. I would really like to find out which school he went to. They lived in Castle Street., so I pres= ume it would have been somewhere reasonably near. Does anyone have any knowledge of schools which were in the vicinity at that time? Would he have changed schools at 11 or so? He told my mother it was a "public school". Was this state school in Scot= land? Also, when did children normally leave school in Scotland in those days? I would be very grateful for a bit of advice to narrow down my search. I understand that the Ewart Library has school records. Thanks very much Alison __________________________________________________________________ Get Tiscali Broadband From =3DA315:99 http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadbandhome/ __________________________________________________________________ Get Tiscali Broadband From =3DA315:99 http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadbandhome/ __________________________________________________________________ Get Tiscali Broadband From =A315:99 http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadbandhome/ --========/4157BB31000183C3/mk-cpfrontend.uk.tiscali.com-- ------=_NextPart_000_569a_6a29_107b--

Patrick _patrick@pdunbar.fsnet.co.uk_ (mailto:patrick@pdunbar.fsnet.co.uk) writes: I must have missed the earlier post - but I'm curious about the compiling and the purpose of the list. I'm was curious too but not curious enogh to put the question. Earlier I posted a URL where anyone search old place name, especially those for farms that have since been absorbed by other and as a result have disappeared of the modern maps. I will post it again just in case some have missed it. _http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/_ (http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/) For placenames on current OS maps use: _http://www.ordsvy.gov.uk_ (http://www.ordsvy.gov.uk) If you care to browse old maps try _http://www.old-maps.co.uk/_ (http://www.old-maps.co.uk/) There is two further source for old maps. One is of the maps held by the National Library of Scotland and the other is a sort of cooperative where doners can add their old maps. Unfortunately but I have lost both URLs at present. That happens when you upgrade systems and think you have archived everything first, the find you haven't! No doubt some one will fill the gap and add the these two URLs to the list above. Cheers, Sandy

Hoping someone can help me with the meaning of this Old Parish record Kind regards Pamela October 29th 1682. On wh. day Jas Mirrilies in Balin: (Ballencreif) and Ag. Wilson in ? gave up their names to . Y: caut for man James Mirrilies elder and for the woman Jo: Wilson her fat. Pamela Thorburn Marshall, Qld, Australia --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

Great news! <>I am delighted to announce the launch of the Stewartry (Kirkcudbright) Free Census project. This is part of the larger UK FreeCen Project - an internet based 'free-to-view' database that will enable researchers to view details of the UK Censuses between the years of 1841 and 1891, especially the ability to search by surname across census years and counties. I am the county co-ordinator for The Stewartry of Kirkcudbright and am appealing for transcribers to help - initially with the 1841 census. <> All you need to take part is a computer with CD drive or access to a microfilm or microfiche reader. We supply everything else: the CD or film/fiche and the software. <> The project is a global on-line venture designed for ordinary family historians wherever they are, who would like to make contribution to this great hobby. <> If you are interested, please contact me, Jane (Douglas) Brayshaw at drybrochj.netscape.net <> UK FreeCen project overview: http://freecen.Rootsweb.com Scotland FreeCEN project overview: http://www.users.waitrose,com/~census <http://www.users.waitrose,com/%7Ecensus> Thank you Jane Brayshaw Stewartry Co-ordinator for FreeCEN (Kirkcudbright)

Hi Ian, Was most interested in the meanings of 'nether' and 'yet' and thank you for thinking to pass them on. Having a knowledge of old terms is so useful. Kind regards, Joan

Many thanks to Jane, Bill, John, Brian, Jim and Don. Without your great help I would still be floundering, looking in the wrong area for Netheryet. My 3xG Grandmother died there but was buried at Mouswald which I guess is about 20 mls away from the one near Redcastle. Now to dig a bit deeper and sort out which of the two!. Happy hunting for you all. Regards, Joan Wells (nee Lockerbie)

I must have missed the earlier post - but I'm curious about the compiling and the purpose of the list. A search on the names in Google will reveal masses of information. I had a quick check for some names in a road atlas, and cross-checked with Google > 40) RATHFARNHAM, CAMBERLEY, [IRELAND] Rathfarnham appears to be a district of Dublin, Republic of Ireland. Much information on Google. "CAMBERLEY, [IRELAND]" is a mystery - guesswork on the part of somebody? > 81) WALTON-le-DALE, near PRESTON, [ENGLAND} My road map shows Walton-le-Dale just to the south of Preston, Lancashire, England. Sounds like an ancient village (on market day a day's walk from Preston for a yester-years farmer?) which now could now be a suburb or dormitory of Preston. Bags of information on Google. Pat(rick) R. L. Dunbar RESEARCHING the DUNBAR name, ANYWHERE, ANY TIME Organiser, Dunbar Family Society (UK) Member - Guild of One-Name Studies, Aberdeen & N.E. Scotland FHS, Scottish Genealogy Society mailto:dunbar@one-name.org http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk (for family history information) http://www.debbiedunbar.net (for equestrian art)

Yes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Docladd" <docladd@bmic.net> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:26 PM Subject: [D-G LIST] Canonbie? > Hi--- > > I hope this is a legitimate question to ask. My grandfather and great=grandfather had it always written that they were born in Dumfries or Dumfrieshire, Scotland so that's where I've been doing my research. Now I find both of them, I think, born in Canonbie parish in the Scotslandpeople site. Is Canonbie parish in Dumfries?? Thanks in advance. Marcia

Hi Marcia You're not by any chance chasing a Morton are you? I have Christian Morton "native of the parish of Canonbie" (married to Thomas Johnstone) in my line. Thought it worth asking! Ken (Liverpool) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Docladd" <docladd@bmic.net> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:26 PM Subject: [D-G LIST] Canonbie? > Hi--- > > I hope this is a legitimate question to ask. My grandfather and great=grandfather had it always written that they were born in Dumfries or Dumfrieshire, Scotland so that's where I've been doing my research. Now I find both of them, I think, born in Canonbie parish in the Scotslandpeople site. Is Canonbie parish in Dumfries?? Thanks in advance. Marcia > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > If your line involves the surname GRAHAM why not join > CLAN-GRAHAM-L@rootsweb.com and find out more. > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >

Many thanks for all (from around the world) who responded so quickly to my query re Nancy being derived from Ann. Seems pretty conclusive! Best wishes all round. Ken (Liverpool)

Adding to Bill's reply, the URL for this location via _www.streetmap.co.uk_ (http://www.streetmap.co.uk) is: _http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=281800&y=564960&z=3&sv=281800,564960& st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&dn=583_ (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=281800&y=564960&z=3&sv=281800,564960&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap. srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&dn=583) I found it by typing in Netheryett (two t's at the end) for the GB placename. Yours aye, John Jardine Cincinnati, Ohio USA D&G FHS Member #1918 Alba mo dhuthaich gu deireadh mo la! (Scotland my homeland forever!) JARDINE/JARDEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Annan, Applegarth, Wamphray, Torthorwald, Collin, Racks, Cummertrees, Powfoot, Mouswald, Kirkmichael, Templand; GREEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; RAE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; MOFFAT in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; McMILLAN in Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, Irongray; HALLIDAY in Irongray; BRODIE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; DICKSON in Mouswald; HOPE in Annan; JOHNSTON(E) in Applegarth, Kirkpatrick-Juxta; PORTEOUS in Applegarth; RICHARDSON in Applegarth