Hi Ken, Wish there was a more definitive answer to your friend's query. I can only speak from my own experience regarding my ancestor taking his children across the border into England to be baptised. Matter of fact, that reminds me that on the baptismal certificates it states: Ecclefechan, North Britain - that was in 1721. Kind of fits in with another thread regarding N.B. May <<Especially for the attention of May, Jeffery and Barbara (thanks!) > > In return for circulating your comments to my (non-DG List contact) he > came > back with the following observations (copied raw from his message). May > be > of passing interest?>>

My Douglas line comes from Cummertrees - William Douglas and Mary Johnston(e) late 1700's as indicated on the headstone in the Cummertrees Church cemetary. It is partially weathered but was transcribed (incomplete) by Shannon and Gilchrist. Does anyone have a complete transcription of this headstone and / or other Douglas burials in Cummertrees ?? Thanks, Brian Douglas

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G'day Margo, Take a look at: http://www.rcahms.gov.uk/ Costs nothing to register and then sign on to CANMORE. Use Auchen as your search and choose D & G as your region. You may even know a parish. You will get 247 hits and then it is up to you to sort out the correct one - if it is there ;-) You probably know a lot more about where/what it may be so you could be lucky. Good hunting. Mike CALDER http://members.optusnet.com.au/mikecalder/

Greetings, Does anyone know if there are transcriptions, or at least an index, of burials in Cummertrees? I'm assuming there is a cemetery there, and if not, where would people have been buried in the late 1700s - early 1800s? Regards....David All incoming/outgoing messages & attachments are scanned for virus content. _________________________________________ David Walker in Edwards, Ontario, Canada ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Researching: WALKER in Dumfriesshire (Scotland), Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick & British Columbia (Canada) and Colorado (U.S.A.) HETHERINGTON in Dumfriesshire (Scotland) and Prince Edward Island (Canada) PALMER in New Brunswick (Canada) and New York (USA) BROWN, SEAMAN, WALLACE TOWNSEND/TOWNSHEND in New Brunswick (Canada) SLOCUM in New Brunswick, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, England CAIRNS, WALLACE, TOWNSEND/TOWNSHEND in PEI (Canada) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walkerpalmer http://www.isn.net/~dhunter/index.html David Walker is Moderator of the WALKER-PALMER Mailing List http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WALKER-PALMER To Join: http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WALKER-PALMER

I really appreciate the help I have been getting on this quest!! I have gotten some responses off the list so I will share what we have discovered....! We are pretty sure now that Auchennaught was also spelled Auchennaight, Auchenknight and it is a farm due north of Penpont. I found the children that were named in the document christened in Auchennaight, Penpont Parish. So it appears that we have found the farm. Thank you to all that have helped me find information about Auchennaught!! Margo Lurvey

A family of Hyslops were born/baptised 1780-90s at AUCHENAIGHT in Penpont, although it was also recorded as being in Durisdeer. It is marked on SHEET NX 89 at the end of a railway line from the village of Burnhead. One kilometre is rep.by 4cm....I only have copied pieces of the map! Looks like 1:25,000 scale? Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <JJardcinc@aol.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] Auchennaught > Margo, > > Might it actually now be Auchenknight in Penpont parish? Here is the URL > via _www.streetmap.co.uk_ (http://www.streetmap.co.uk) : > > _http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=284500&y=597500&z=3&sv=284500,59750 0& > st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&dn=551_ > (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=284500&y=597500&z=3&sv=284500,59750 0&st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&search > p=newsearch.srf&dn=551) > > In _www.old-maps.co.uk/_ (http://www.old-maps.co.uk/) (http://www.old-maps) > , the farm is listed as Auchenaight, as of 1861 - a wee closer to the > spelling you're looking for. Type in Penpont as the GB placename, then go due north > a few panes. > > With Old Maps, the farm names are not indexed to any degree of reliabilty. > In Streetmap, most are, but certainly not all. > > I hope this helps. > > Yours aye, > > John Jardine > Cincinnati, Ohio USA > D&G FHS Member #1918 > > Alba mo dhuthaich gu deireadh mo la! > (Scotland my homeland forever!) > > JARDINE/JARDEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Annan, Applegarth, Wamphray, > Torthorwald, Collin, Racks, Cummertrees, Powfoot, Mouswald, Kirkmichael, Templand; > GREEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; RAE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, > Kirkcudbright; MOFFAT in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; McMILLAN in Dumfries, > Kirkcudbright, Irongray; HALLIDAY in Irongray; BRODIE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; > DICKSON in Mouswald; HOPE in Annan; JOHNSTON(E) in Applegarth, Kirkpatrick-Juxta; > PORTEOUS in Applegarth; RICHARDSON in Applegarth > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > DO NOT send files as Email attachments to the list. > Send them privately - person to person. > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > >

Thank you all who answered my Help message. Margaret in NZ

Hi Margo: You do not seem to be getting any answers so I will give you an Auchenbedrig on which Irvings paid Hearth Tax in 1691 in the Parish of Middlebie in Dumfries. The name also appears in a list of Sasines. It is the only one I could find starting with Auchen. Good luck Stuart Livingstone Brown - Cornwallis Nova Scotia Canada

Please will some kind member send me the web site for the 1851 census, I found some of my names , then had to leave the computer and now cannot find my way back ! Help. Thank you. Margaret in NZ

Margo Have you looked at Auchenage? That definitely existed. If it is not the one it could give you a clue to where to look geographically. David -----Original Message----- From: Jeffery K. Davidson [mailto:jdavidson@rathandcompany.com] Sent: 05 November 2004 16:56 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] Auchennaught Hi Margo, I have had good luck using http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ to find villages. It didn't have anything for Auchennaught. Do you think that Auchennaught might be the name of a farm or even a house? Where did you find the name? What parish or county was it in? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margo Lurvey" <mlurvey@juno.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:25 PM Subject: [D-G LIST] Auchennaught > Hi all, > I have been looking for a place called Auchennaught. Does anyone > know where it is? I have tried the following sites with no success. > http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/scotland.html > www.old-maps.co.uk > http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/index.html > http://www.heartoscotland.com/Products/scotlandmaps.htm > > So if anyone can help me locate this place, probably a farm, I would > appreciate it. > > Thanks > Margo Lurvey > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > ******************************************************************** > To UNSUBSCRIBE > send a message to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail > mode) or DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) with > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body. NO subject, NO signature. > ************************************************************************ > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== FIND YOUR ANCESTORS http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/

Thanks for help with MI,s for the above families from list members. Margaret in NZ

Hi Margo, I have had good luck using http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ to find villages. It didn't have anything for Auchennaught. Do you think that Auchennaught might be the name of a farm or even a house? Where did you find the name? What parish or county was it in? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margo Lurvey" <mlurvey@juno.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:25 PM Subject: [D-G LIST] Auchennaught > Hi all, > I have been looking for a place called Auchennaught. Does anyone > know where it is? I have tried the following sites with no success. > http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/scotland.html > www.old-maps.co.uk > http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/index.html > http://www.heartoscotland.com/Products/scotlandmaps.htm > > So if anyone can help me locate this place, probably a farm, I would > appreciate it. > > Thanks > Margo Lurvey > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > ******************************************************************** > To UNSUBSCRIBE > send a message to DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail > mode) or DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) with > only the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body. NO subject, NO signature. > ************************************************************************ > >

Margo, Would you know if your SLOANs are part of the SLOAN family living in the area of sth east Ayrshire ca 1800. My HILLHOUSE family have a marriage in Ochiltree 1857, Agnes Neill Hillhouse to George BROWN b 1834 Sorn, whose parents were Mungo BROWN and Sarah SLOAN. Regards Jenny Lake Macquarie NSW Aus

While our Canadian cousins are alive to the amibuity, genealogists elsewhere should not overlook that NB can also mean New Brunswick. Nota Bene! ----- Original Message ----- From: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:47 AM Subject: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-D Digest V04 #288

Hi Margaret 1851 CENSUS: http://www.dumgal.gov.uk/services/depts/comres/library/archives.asp Regards Ian A McClumpha Researching Family History in Dumfries & Galloway ~ and beyond. Please visit my Website: http://www.imchad.freeola.com -----Original Message----- From: steinthall [mailto:steinthall@xtra.co.nz] Sent: 05 November 2004 07:02 To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [D-G LIST] 1851 Census Dumfries Please will some kind member send me the web site for the 1851 census, I found some of my names , then had to leave the computer and now cannot find my way back ! Help. Thank you. Margaret in NZ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 01/11/04

Is anyone researching the McCall family who were partners in Crawick Mill? I believe them to be James McCall and Margaret Lorimer. They had the following children; John Lorimer McCall, Isabella McCall (married William Elder), Viger McCall, Mary McCall (married James Morrison) and Janet McCall. There was another member of the family George McCall but I am not sure of his relationship to James McCall. George worked at the Carpet Mill in 1858. In a document from Scottishdocs 13/2/1858 George Lorimer Esq. left portions of his estate to his cousins, the McCall families that I have mentioned above. I would love to hear from anyone who is researching this family! Thanks Margo Lurvey

Hello Listers, Just happen to have this list of Wills for this particular period. (A with W means Administration with Will). See North Britain; .PTS means "died in foreign Parts". From the Prerogative Court of Canterbury. PCC WILLS 1750-1800 on fiche. 1783 Kenedy, John (Goliah) PTS May #241 1783 Kennedy John, otherwise Kenedy PTS Sep otherwise Stack, Edward, service E.I.S. "Rochford" 1797 Kennedy Patrick York Dec #749 1764 Kennedy William PTS Feb #54 1785 Kennedy William Penelope, Port Morant, Renown PTS Mar #138 1750 Kennedy Adam Seaflower, Blanche PTS Aug# 41 1770 Kennedy Alexander MDX PTS Apr #119 1770 Kennedy Alexander, Esq. A with W. N. Britain Aug 3#00 1785 Kennedy Hector Defence N Britain Mar #139 1785 Kennedy Robert Esq. A with W. N Britain Apr #309 1794 Kennedy Walter A with W. N Britain Mar #131 Barbara

Margo, Might it actually now be Auchenknight in Penpont parish? Here is the URL via _www.streetmap.co.uk_ (http://www.streetmap.co.uk) : _http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=284500&y=597500&z=3&sv=284500,597500& st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf&dn=551_ (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=284500&y=597500&z=3&sv=284500,597500&st=4&mapp=newmap.srf&search p=newsearch.srf&dn=551) In _www.old-maps.co.uk/_ (http://www.old-maps.co.uk/) (http://www.old-maps) , the farm is listed as Auchenaight, as of 1861 - a wee closer to the spelling you're looking for. Type in Penpont as the GB placename, then go due north a few panes. With Old Maps, the farm names are not indexed to any degree of reliabilty. In Streetmap, most are, but certainly not all. I hope this helps. Yours aye, John Jardine Cincinnati, Ohio USA D&G FHS Member #1918 Alba mo dhuthaich gu deireadh mo la! (Scotland my homeland forever!) JARDINE/JARDEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Annan, Applegarth, Wamphray, Torthorwald, Collin, Racks, Cummertrees, Powfoot, Mouswald, Kirkmichael, Templand; GREEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; RAE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; MOFFAT in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; McMILLAN in Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, Irongray; HALLIDAY in Irongray; BRODIE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; DICKSON in Mouswald; HOPE in Annan; JOHNSTON(E) in Applegarth, Kirkpatrick-Juxta; PORTEOUS in Applegarth; RICHARDSON in Applegarth

In 1823 Robert Lorimer of Kirkland Farm, Kirkconnel parish died from falling off of his horse. He was the husband of Jane Vigor Muir. In a document from the Dumfries Sheriffs Court, he was 1/6th owner of the Crawick Carpet Works... Does anyone know who the other owners were? Thanks Margo