Dear All At the risk of being tedious, please add me to the company of those who have been experiencing difficulties with this otherwise first-=class site. It seems to have started about a month ago. The fact that it's often 'down'in the evening, but available again the next day (and that if it goes down on Friday it stays down all weekend) leads one to suppose that there's some problem which needs regular attention from the Council's IT Team. I would imagine that there are some 'local' listers who might be in a better position to bring these problems to the Council's attention than those of us who live in Yorkshire or Florida! I must say, it was quite disheartening a couple of weeks ago to come back from Dumfries and find that I couldn't easily follow up leads I'd found in the excellent Ewart Library. Best Peter ===== Peter Didsbury Consultant Archaeologist (Ceramics) Reporting on Iron Age and Roman, and medieval to early modern pottery and other ceramic items from northern and eastern England. Tel. (01482) 494711 or 217466. Mobile: 07812 470663. ___________________________________________________________ Moving house? Beach bar in Thailand? New Wardrobe? Win £10k with Yahoo! Mail to make your dream a reality. Get Yahoo! Mail www.yahoo.co.uk/10k

Kathy Nemaric wrote: >I was wondering if it's just me, or are others having problems reaching the >CIS: Dumfries & Galloway Council Information Services web site (where the >1851 census is available, among other things). > >I have had trouble on and off for the last several days; only getting >through once on Friday. Does anyone know what may be going on? > >I get a "connection was refused when attempting to contact >www.dumgal.gov.uk" > >Frustrated, >Kathy >Orlando, Florida, USA > > >==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== >FIND YOUR ANCESTORS >http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/ > > > > No Kathy, not you. I get the same.... something amiss somewhere. Unless it has been relocated and the new address kept a secret! David. -- *Old Historical Books on CD.* Trade Directories, Maps, County & Local Interest. http://www.youroldbooksandmaps.co.uk/ Free old UK & Ireland maps online. Your Maps Online http://www.yourmapsonline.org.uk <http://www,yourmapsonline.org.uk> *The *NEW* Your Maps Online CD-2* Extensive preview page on the website. -- Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.5 - Release Date: 03/12/2004

Jenny, There was another query about Greenbrae Loaning to the list earlier this year. Greenbrae Loaning is a minor road which links Lockerbie Road and Annan Road. It passes between a public park and what used to be Park Hospital (the "fever hospital"). It also passes by what used to be the Railway Mission Hall. There are a few older houses in the street. Eunice Smith Edinburgh, Scotland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Gibson" <celticj@icr.com.au> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: [D-G LIST] Greenbrae, Dumfries, DFS | Hello all, | | Could someone please let me know where the above place is? I have located two Greenbraes, but neither are in Dumfries parish/district. I wonder if it might be considered a suburb of Dumfries. | | Many thanks for your assistance. | | Jenny Gibson, | Toowoomba, Australia. | | | ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== | ********************************************************************* | If you have any problems with this list or any of its members please | contact the listowner....Tom Welch....tomas@directcon.net | ******************************************************************** |

I was wondering if it's just me, or are others having problems reaching the CIS: Dumfries & Galloway Council Information Services web site (where the 1851 census is available, among other things). I have had trouble on and off for the last several days; only getting through once on Friday. Does anyone know what may be going on? I get a "connection was refused when attempting to contact www.dumgal.gov.uk" Frustrated, Kathy Orlando, Florida, USA

Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and wondering if anyone can help me locate the death date of David Brown in Tinwald. He was a Joiner aged 60 in Kirkland Village on 1841 census for Tinwald. His wife Ann [ms Johnston] was a widow by 1851. I'd be very grateful if anyone can help. Many Thanks in advance Lyn.

Sorry Bill, As I found out yesterday on looking in a copy at a newsagent, there was a letter "u" missing. It should read: gallowaynews@s-un.co.uk Regards Paul P.S. Hope it's not too hot in Australia, I read something about 42-43°C the other day... Hier klicken, um mein erstes Buch über Neuseeland zu kaufen, ein Bildband vom renommierten Fotografen Holger Leue mit Text von Paul D. Chilvers-Grierson (ab sofort erhältlich!): http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3765441279/dumfriesand01-21 Click here to order my first book about New Zealand (in German), a coffee table book by renowned German photographer Holger Leue with text by Paul D. Chilvers-Grierson (available now!): http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3765441279/dumfriesand01-21 Have you got a Plan B? Heres' mine: www.anmnow.com/tcc - Watch the movies, get th` eBook - free! ----- Original Message ----- From: "william robb" <williamrobb@bigpond.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] how to make contact Hi Paul, Sorry to be a pain, but could you possibly check the email address you gave us. We tried sending an email and it bounced back at us. Thanks, Leeona and Bill ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== ********************************** YOU HAVE ENTERED A FLAME FREE ZONE **********************************

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Hello all, Could someone please let me know where the above place is? I have located two Greenbraes, but neither are in Dumfries parish/district. I wonder if it might be considered a suburb of Dumfries. Many thanks for your assistance. Jenny Gibson, Toowoomba, Australia.

Hello All, When Margaret GIBSON and Alexander SMITH married in Rhonehouse, Kelton parish, KKD, on 19 November 1875, she was a laundrymaid and he was a gardener. It seems to me that with these occupations they may have been employed by a mansion owner. What are the most likely places in Kelton parish at this time for this possibility? Or, does anyone have any other suggestions for where they might have been employed? TIA Jenny Gibson, Toowoomba, Australia.

On 2 December I received a message from someone with the email address of: wingspread257@ea The sender wanted information on on a book I have called: "Memoirs of the Rebellion in 1745 and 1746" by The Chevalier De Johnstone. It was published in 1821 and I manually indexed the book, listing all names found, title, and page number. The trouble is, I can't open the email for some reason, and the return address is incomplete. So, if you are out there, please try to contact me again via email! Yours aye, John Jardine Cincinnati, Ohio USA D&G FHS Member #1918 Alba mo dhuthaich gu deireadh mo la! (Scotland my homeland forever!) JARDINE/JARDEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Annan, Applegarth, Wamphray, Torthorwald, Collin, Racks, Cummertrees, Powfoot, Mouswald, Kirkmichael, Templand; GREEN in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; RAE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown, Kirkcudbright; MOFFAT in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; McMILLAN in Dumfries, Kirkcudbright, Irongray; HALLIDAY in Irongray; BRODIE in Dumfries, Maxwelltown; DICKSON in Mouswald; HOPE in Annan; JOHNSTON(E) in Applegarth, Kirkpatrick-Juxta; PORTEOUS in Applegarth; RICHARDSON in Applegarth

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Hello All, I have a James Clanachan died 1873 at Crichton Sanitorium. His son also ended his time on earth in another sanitorium some 50 years later. Now, before you ask, I am not particularly worried about the gene pool. I an just wondering if there is a link as they both worked at the Waulkmill in Kirkcowan . What chemicals were used in the processes of making cloth in the 19th century? Ken Parker

Hi Paul, Sorry to be a pain, but could you possibly check the email address you gave us. We tried sending an email and it bounced back at us. Thanks, Leeona and Bill

Hi Barbara, Census records would be your best bet for staff working at the Institution, if she lived-in. There is information at:- http://freespace.virgin.net/john.williams1/croyalh.html. on the old Crichton Asylum opened in 1839, I think this must be the Institution you refer to. Good Luck, Maureen in NZ POOL HOPE THOMSON FARISH MACKIE in Annan. > I have found what looks like the above wording from a marriage certificate dated 1908. Mary Nicholson was a cook there, aged 27. > Is the name correct & is there any information that can be located about staff that worked there? > Thanks in advance > Barbara > Keeping an eye out for Hunter, Laurie, Nicholson in Dumfries & Edinburgh for a friend. > > ______________________________

Hi Jean Assuming that is 1881, could 'Thoddan' be Hoddam I wonder? There certainly were SMITHs at Hoddam, I am descended from one of 'em.... I for one will add this snippet to my collection and I will check the online 1851 census to see if they appear back in D&G. thanks! Judy ---------- >From: "Jean Coat" <jcoat@mountaincable.net> >To: DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [D-G LIST] Smith family >Date: 02, Thu Dec, 2004, 5:10 am > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Coat" <jcoat@mountaincable.net> > To: <Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:45 PM > [D-G LIST] Re SMITH > > >> Hi List. I have been looking for my Smith Family down in England and > found >> these strays. Knowing how hard they are to find, thought I would send > this. >> >> 1981 British Census >> >> John Smith, Male ; born at sea; age 63 Labourer >> Margaret Wife, born at Dumf. 51 >> Andrew son born at Thoddan, Dumf. age 31 >> >> Peter son born Dumfries age 17 >> Janet dau. born Dumfries age 20 >> W.John son Born at Carluke age 11 >> Isabella Dau born at Gateshead Durham age 8 >> >> Thats all folks. Hope it helps someone Merry Christmas all. Jean Coat >

Wow! Thankyou so very much for the email address! Really appreciated.... will contact them now! Also, Thanks Jane for the offer. Leeona and Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul D. Chilvers-Grierson" <Paul.D.Chilvers-Grierson@t-online.de> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] how to make contact Hi Bill, The paper in Castle Douglas is the Galloway News, comes out Thursdays. The email given for editorial is gallowaynews@s-n.co.uk. In the past I have seen letters to the editor from people searching as you are, so you may like to give that a try. Paul Hier klicken, um mein erstes Buch über Neuseeland zu kaufen, ein Bildband vom renommierten Fotografen Holger Leue mit Text von Paul D. Chilvers-Grierson (ab sofort erhältlich!): http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3765441279/dumfriesand01-21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "william robb" <williamrobb@bigpond.com> To: <DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [D-G LIST] how to make contact Just wanted to say thanks for the advice Sheena,Judy and Jeffery. We tried BT.com and found that they have a search for business type section that gave us the answer about there being newspapers in the area. We found one!!!!! And it also includes the address so we'll write to them and see if they'll be able to help us.... Thanks again! Much appreciated. Leeona and Bill ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ To reach every member of the list : Send Email to ....... DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ To reach every member of the list : Send Email to ....... DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY-L@rootsweb.com

Just wanted to say thanks for the advice Sheena,Judy and Jeffery. We tried BT.com and found that they have a search for business type section that gave us the answer about there being newspapers in the area. We found one!!!!! And it also includes the address so we'll write to them and see if they'll be able to help us.... Thanks again! Much appreciated. Leeona and Bill

Hi, we've just found out that there are descendants of Andrew Robb and Margaret Duncan still living in the areas of Castle Douglas... though we weren't given any names to help us we were told that they weren't actually Robb's. We're just wondering if anyone could possibly tell us the best way to try and make contact with them.. for instance is there a local paper for the area? and how would we from Australia be able to access it? Thanks for your help. Leeona and Bill

Sorry for that, I noticed that AntiSpam was mixed up with the message and shouldnt have been there. So I resent the message without it. Somehow my D&G address was placed onto my Antispam list (by me no doubt) and I noticed it just now. Jean

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Coat" <jcoat@mountaincable.net> To: <Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:45 PM [D-G LIST] Re SMITH > Hi List. I have been looking for my Smith Family down in England and found > these strays. Knowing how hard they are to find, thought I would send this. > > 1981 British Census > > John Smith, Male ; born at sea; age 63 Labourer > Margaret Wife, born at Dumf. 51 > Andrew son born at Thoddan, Dumf. age 31 > > Peter son born Dumfries age 17 > Janet dau. born Dumfries age 20 > W.John son Born at Carluke age 11 > Isabella Dau born at Gateshead Durham age 8 > > Thats all folks. Hope it helps someone Merry Christmas all. Jean Coat > > > > ==== DUMFRIES-GALLOWAY Mailing List ==== > FIND YOUR ANCESTORS > http://www.directcon.net/tomas/Ancestry/index.html/ > >