In a message dated 10/31/99 11:34:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, rlelong@bellsouth.net writes: << The dates don't seem to work for Mary being the daughter of John II. Mary Whilden Dubose, to my understanding, had several children with John Dubose & would have been too old if in fact the daughter of John II. Did you mean to write that Mary was the daughter of John III and the granddaughter of John II? If so, do you know who John III married? >> Rivers, One of the confusions is in Harrington's use of [II] for the third John Whilden. It is less confusing to go by birth/death dates. There were just too many Johns and Marys! John Whilden (born c.1683 in MA) was a Christ Church Parish planter who died in 1723, leaving a minor son also named John, a wife Mary (maiden name unknown), and several daughters. In addition to his holdings in Christ Church Parish, John Whilden [II] also owned land in neighboring St. James Santee Parish. He was granted 490 acres in Jan 1705 on Jeremy Creek, Craven County, which now takes in the town of McClellanville. John and his wife Mary conveyed this 490 acre tract to Col. Thomas Lynch (c.1680-1738) by "deed of feoffment" dated 27 Nov 1717. Today this 490 acres is part of Point Plantation which operates as a fishing resort and bed and breakfast. The will of John Whilden (c.1683-1723) cites five daughters, including Mary Whilden, who married about 1730 John Dubose (b.c.1694), a Santee River planter and brother of Elizabeth Dubose Whilden. In 1744, John and Mary Whilden Dubose sold their land in Berkeley County and moved to Lynches Creek in Darlington District, where by 1750 John had received land grants. The eldest of their four sons, Elias Isaac Dubose (1747-1789) served as a captain of the militia company of St. David's Parish during the American Revolution (1775-82) and was a member of the Second General Assembly of SC (1776-78). Jonathan Whilden (c.1683) in about 1721 married Elizabeth Dubose (born c.1695), d/o Isaac & Suzanne Couillandeau Dubose. Jonathan and Elizabeth had 7 children: Jonathan Jr. (c1722), Joseph (c1724), Elizabeth (1726), Elisha (c1729), John (c1731), Suzannah (1733), and Mary (1736). Upon his older brother's death in 1723, Jonathan became the guardian for John's minor son, John Whilden (III). In 1744 John married Martha King. His will refers to a daughter, Elizabeth, but no son, and indicates that he was a shoemaker at Seewee Bay, Christ Church Parish at his death in 1746. Just to clarify: 1 Gabriel Whilden (c.1600-c.1654) + 1st Margaret Diguina + 2nd Martha Unknown (d. 1639) 2 John Whilden (c.1630-1706) + Mary Holland (d. 1700) 3 John Whilden (b. c.1655-c.1706) + Unknown 4 John Whilden (c.1683-1723) + Mary Unknown 5 John Whilden (d.1746) +Martha King 5 Mary Whilden + John Dubose (b.c.1694) 4 Jonathan Whilden (1689-1736)--my 5th ggrandfather + Elizabeth Dubose (b.1691) Most of this information comes from a cousin in Islandton SC and a manuscript written by C. Michael Harrington who has written several articles on Whildens in the War Between the States. You can find these articles here: http://www.awod.com/gallery/probono/cwchas/bio.html I have lots more on the Whilden line and would be glad to share more if you are interested. Would also appreciate any information you care to share. Best regards, Ann