Thanks, Elizabeth, for the possibilities. Of course, you are right. Spellings are by no means consistent. I know that I was able to find my gr gr gr grandfather's will because he used the unusual spelling of Jourdan SMITH, yet when I received my copy, it was spelled "Jordan". I'll just have to check them all out, I guess! Betty DUBOSE Hamilton

Good post -- lucid and sensible! Betty

Rec'd some info on Hester on the Dutch colonies list. Also received a flurry of info (a couple of hundred emails) on this and other topics and it will take a little bit to sort it out. But the short and long of it is, nothing new regarding the other spellings. What was new were some of the collateral lines. E Maryd0318@aol.com wrote: > > Elizabeth, have you found any connections between Doboise and the Hester > DuBois you have been recently researching? I would like to hear from those > with the DeBoise researchers if any of them have found evidence of the two > spellings connected with their lines. > > ==== DuBose Mailing List ==== > *********** PRUNE YOUR QUOTES! *********** > DuBose Message Board: http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb123571 > Send comments about the Forum to: > Steven J. Coker, Forum Manager > P.O. Box 359, Charleston, SC 29402 > DuBose@GeoCities.com > http://www.dubose.org/

How incredibly interesting. Any chance the brothers ran from France via Holland? Have seen some Dutch derivatives of names that are a little like what you are talking about. You may have a stumper there. E WilsonCyn@aol.com wrote: > > Hi. I am Cynthia Wilson from Atlanta, Ga. > Ready for this story? > I signed up for this list on a whim because of a letter I have written by my > grgrandfather Raymond Dipboye (in 1953 at age 75) in which he tries to > explain to a niece the story of the family name. He recounted it being > spelled this way as far as he could remember but an uncle had once told him > that he thought it had originally been Dubois. His story was that 3 > brothers ran from France etc. etc. > His grgrandfather Jonathan (born in 1819 VA) told his story to a biographer > in Madison Co., INdiana and I have that story. It goes that Jonathan's > grandfather was a George M Dipboye who came with 2 brothers from France prior > to the war of independence and settled in PA. George supposedly fought in the > war , was a prisoner and escaped. Jonathan's father Abraham was born there > about 1787 and married a RoseAnna Goodyear (from Germany). They had 3 > children there and then moved to VA and then on to Indiana. > Since I started my searching, I have found that it has been spelled several > ways, including Deboy, Dapboy, Dipboy, Dipberg, Dipboyle. The way my family > has always pronounced it has been Diboy (p and e silent). > I have not found any trace of George or Abraham in PA to this point , first I > can find them is in 1830 on the NewMarket VA census, spelled Abraham > Deboy. He was a plasterer by trade according to Jonathan. > When I received this letter today about the different spellings, I had my > first hope that maybe this was a tie, as we have Jesses, Jonathans, Abrahams, > etc. > Sorry for the length of this response, but sure hope this looks vaguely > familiar to someone on the list. > Thanks for your time. > Cynthia > > ==== DuBose Mailing List ==== > *********** PRUNE YOUR QUOTES! *********** > DuBose Queries: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/DuBose > Send comments about the Forum to: > Steven J. Coker, Forum Manager > P.O. Box 359, Charleston, SC 29402 > DuBose@GeoCities.com, http://www.dubose.org/

In "History of Colleton County the first 160 years 1670-1830 "by Mrs Evelyn Bryan 2 of the names of petitioners to move the courthouse and jail from Jacksonboro to Walterboro were William Duboyse and Dempsy Deboyse.( the spelling is as they signed it) William DuBois is my husbands gggrandfather. In later records and deeds the name is spelled Dubois,DuBois, Duboise, and DuBoise. Some of these spellings appear in the same document.His ggfathers name Jesse is recorded as Jep, Jepe and Jesse. The p being double S's.as in old english. In a deed dated recorded July 1868 states W.S.Godley to Jepe Dubois " two hundred and fifty-seven acres from a tract of five hundred and fourteen acres bounded south by lands of Benjamin Godley, myself and the Little Salkhatchie swamp, east by said swamp and south and west by lands of ISAAC,DEMPSEY and J.Q.A. DuBois. In other documents Dempsey is Dempsy DUBOISE. So much for the spelling of names. J.Q.A. is John Quincy Adam. in some records listed as Quincy. Sure would like to know where Isaac has been hiding . This is the only record that I have found where all 3 have been listed.No spelling of Dubose except in census records. Hope this helps someone. Lettye DuBois sponsor of rootsweb

Folks I apologize. My remarks were intended as humor, not politics. Guess I forgot that defining the intent of any remark or gesture lies with the recipient. Please forgive my transgression. Ted DuboseTerryJ@exchange.uams.edu wrote: > No Republican votes from me of any kind until they get it right on the > Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty... who is against the ban of nuclear > testing? Not Doves, surely they don't want bigger and better bombs > anywhere... and the Hawks know the USA already has the largest and most > powerful nuclear arsenal on Earth. Why would Hawks want to give anyone else > an excuse to continue testing and catch up with us? > > The Republican's vote against the ban was pure stupidity ... they let > partisan politics cloud their common sense. > > Sorry for the politics on this discussion list, but I did not start it. > > Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS > Little Rock, Arkansas, USA > 501-686-6510 > http://www.io.com/~dubose/ <http://www.io.com/~dubose/> > http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm <http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm> > > http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm > <http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Painter [SMTP:tpainter@esva.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 7:03 PM > To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Roll Call > > Sorry, I only answered up present. Present here in Virginia. Go > Navy, > Beat Army! Mom's apple pie. The South Carolina Gamecocks and the > Dallas Cowboys forever. Vote the straight Republican ticket (except > for > Ollie North). > > Lonne Heath wrote: > > > Present here in North Carolina. > > > > ==== DuBose Mailing List ==== > > *********** PRUNE YOUR QUOTES! *********** > > ''' > > (0 0) > > +----------oOO----(_)----------------+ > > Send comments about the Forum to: > > Steven J. Coker, Forum Manager > > P.O. Box 359, Charleston, SC 29402 > > owner-DUBOSE@LISTS2.ROOTSWEB.com > > http://www.dubose.org/ > > +-----------------oOO----------------+ > > |__|__| > > || || > > ooO Ooo > > Search Rootsweb: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/searches/ > > ==== DuBose Mailing List ==== > *********** PRUNE YOUR QUOTES! *********** > DuBose Message Board: http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb123571 > Disclaimer: All emails come without guarantees or warranties, either > expressed or implied. Similarities to reality are entirely > coincidental. > Send comments about the Forum to: > Steven J. Coker, Forum Manager > P.O. Box 359, Charleston, SC 29402 > DuBose@GeoCities.com > http://www.dubose.org/ > > ==== DuBose Mailing List ==== > *********** PRUNE YOUR QUOTES! *********** > Help Desk: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~help/index.htm > Send comments about the Forum to: > Steven J. Coker, Forum Manager > P.O. Box 359, Charleston, SC 29402 > owner-DUBOSE@LISTS2.ROOTSWEB.com > http://www.dubose.org/

Lettye, remember the will with the three different spellings of DuBois within the same document? (or was it a deed) My question is, for whom was the Doboy sound named for off the coast of Caroline back before 1700?

No Republican votes from me of any kind until they get it right on the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty... who is against the ban of nuclear testing? Not Doves, surely they don't want bigger and better bombs anywhere... and the Hawks know the USA already has the largest and most powerful nuclear arsenal on Earth. Why would Hawks want to give anyone else an excuse to continue testing and catch up with us? The Republican's vote against the ban was pure stupidity ... they let partisan politics cloud their common sense. Sorry for the politics on this discussion list, but I did not start it. Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 501-686-6510 http://www.io.com/~dubose/ <http://www.io.com/~dubose/> http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm <http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm> http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm <http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm> -----Original Message----- From: Ted Painter [SMTP:tpainter@esva.net] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 7:03 PM To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Roll Call Sorry, I only answered up present. Present here in Virginia. Go Navy, Beat Army! Mom's apple pie. The South Carolina Gamecocks and the Dallas Cowboys forever. Vote the straight Republican ticket (except for Ollie North). Lonne Heath wrote: > Present here in North Carolina. > > ==== DuBose Mailing List ==== > *********** PRUNE YOUR QUOTES! *********** > ''' > (0 0) > +----------oOO----(_)----------------+ > Send comments about the Forum to: > Steven J. Coker, Forum Manager > P.O. Box 359, Charleston, SC 29402 > owner-DUBOSE@LISTS2.ROOTSWEB.com > http://www.dubose.org/ > +-----------------oOO----------------+ > |__|__| > || || > ooO Ooo > Search Rootsweb: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/searches/ ==== DuBose Mailing List ==== *********** PRUNE YOUR QUOTES! *********** DuBose Message Board: http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb123571 Disclaimer: All emails come without guarantees or warranties, either expressed or implied. Similarities to reality are entirely coincidental. Send comments about the Forum to: Steven J. Coker, Forum Manager P.O. Box 359, Charleston, SC 29402 DuBose@GeoCities.com http://www.dubose.org/

Hi Ann, My daughter m. a DuBose/Whilden descendant 9 Oct. here at our home in Winston-Salem, NC. His name is Jonathan B. Engel. His grandmother, Geraldine "Gerrie", was a DuBose, descendant of Isaac. She m. John T. Engel of Savannah, Ga. I have been sent a little Whilden information but have put all gene. away for a bit as wedding guests would have found it an obstacle, I'm afraid! As I recall they had been living on Cape Cod and later came to SC by ship, were ship wrecked off NC coast, rescued by Indians, of whom they were afraid at first but were treated very well. Then Lord Granville arranged to have them locate near the Santee River in SC. They formed a church body in the SC area. Seems they were New England Puritans, correct? I hope I am not confusing part of this with the New England Janes line. I know they were Puritans. I am looking forward to sharing information, not that I have a tremendous lot. I did not know that the surname had not died out but glad to see that it certainly has not! I look forward to hearing from you very soon. Bebe Fox Winston-Salem, NC

I'll be researching this area and transcribing info most likely on the Huguenot and/or DUBOIS list if you want to just sit back and read and cut and paste. But if you want to go whole hog, I would heartily recommend Charles Baird's "Huguenot Emigration to America" as a book you'll turn to again and again for Huguenot migration patterns and info on various regions of France and migrations through Germany, Holland, England, and the Islands to the U.S. (and this applies to all Huguenots, of course, not just DuBois.) As for your family specifically, several articles have been written--and sometimes hotly disputed-- on the European ancestry of Chretien duBois. I have on order via interlibrary loan several articles on Louis DuBois' European ancestry, and when I get them, will let you know the sources, synopsis, etc. Also, Matthew Hilt Murphy's works on the matter are found here and there in libraries--but not often. His works are among the disputed ones, but I cannot tell you exactly why just yet, or if the criticism is justified, because although I've read them, I did not know enough at the time to see if the subsequent fussing is substantiated. So, keep an eye to the Hugo and/or the DuBois list--unless Steve Coker? are you here?--wants cross-posting here, too. This list rarely addresses the "northern DuBois" lines, but the European ancestry might affect us all. Elizabeth DuBois Russo One of those rare southern DuBois... lida wrote: > > Hi Elizabeth, > Yes, I am interested in the European Research. I am from the Louis duBois > group. > I will admit that I am getting confused when I look further back on that > family line. > Do you have any suggestions? > Thanks > Lida >

Hi. I am Cynthia Wilson from Atlanta, Ga. Ready for this story? I signed up for this list on a whim because of a letter I have written by my grgrandfather Raymond Dipboye (in 1953 at age 75) in which he tries to explain to a niece the story of the family name. He recounted it being spelled this way as far as he could remember but an uncle had once told him that he thought it had originally been Dubois. His story was that 3 brothers ran from France etc. etc. His grgrandfather Jonathan (born in 1819 VA) told his story to a biographer in Madison Co., INdiana and I have that story. It goes that Jonathan's grandfather was a George M Dipboye who came with 2 brothers from France prior to the war of independence and settled in PA. George supposedly fought in the war , was a prisoner and escaped. Jonathan's father Abraham was born there about 1787 and married a RoseAnna Goodyear (from Germany). They had 3 children there and then moved to VA and then on to Indiana. Since I started my searching, I have found that it has been spelled several ways, including Deboy, Dapboy, Dipboy, Dipberg, Dipboyle. The way my family has always pronounced it has been Diboy (p and e silent). I have not found any trace of George or Abraham in PA to this point , first I can find them is in 1830 on the NewMarket VA census, spelled Abraham Deboy. He was a plasterer by trade according to Jonathan. When I received this letter today about the different spellings, I had my first hope that maybe this was a tie, as we have Jesses, Jonathans, Abrahams, etc. Sorry for the length of this response, but sure hope this looks vaguely familiar to someone on the list. Thanks for your time. Cynthia

Just to make it clear-- the John DuBose spoken of here was always a John DuBois, not duBose. He was the brother to my 8Xgrandfather. Again, somebody somewhere recorded or stated that he was a DuBose when he never was. So this was not a case of a Dubose who was not an Isaac descendant. E Maryd0318@aol.com wrote: > > on page 1 of the Mc Dowell book she states that " the puzzling problem was > cleared up up in 1959 from research by Mrs. Slann L.C. Simmons, then > Secretary of the Huguenot Society of S.C.. . There was no John Du Bose, Jr. > in the line ((early) . Thiis is proved by court records which show that the > John Du Bose who married Judith Peyre was not son or grandson of, or any > relation to the immigrant , Issac Du Bosc, but was in fact an entirely > different person of the name of Du Bois."------Du Bose Genealogy

Ted Arthur Painter in Virginia Descended from Isaac/Suzanne through Maison de Peter Isaac Elbert Peter Horace Nicholas Stephen Bryan Benjamin Pearce Stephen Bryan Details can be found at this web site: http://www.my-ged.com/db/surnames/dubose/A My family lines are (Paternal) Painter/Herring and (Maternal) DuBose/Corley

Hi Elizabeth, Yes, I am interested in the European Research. I am from the Louis duBois group. I will admit that I am getting confused when I look further back on that family line. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks Lida ----- Original Message ----- From: ELIZABETH RUSSO <elizabethrusso@home.com> To: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 7:39 PM Subject: And a lonely DUBOIS here > Checking in from Simsbury, CT, 9th generation descendant of JOHN DUBOIS > who paid quit rents in Carolina by 1696. > > Mainly on this list to catch the occasional meandering SC and other > Southern DUBOIS'. And to keep explaining to folks that the DuBOIS and > the DuBoses were not the same families. And to keep hoping that someone > will break out and try to track down Isaac DuBOSE's roots back on the > duBosq/duBosc side to see if they ever intermingle with the duBois even > back in France.... > > And to help the poor DuBoise folks who could be from either duBose or du > Bois roots. > > Anyone interested in the European ancestry research here? > > Elizabeth DuBois Russo > > > ==== DuBose Mailing List ==== > *********** PRUNE YOUR QUOTES! *********** > Help Desk: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~help/index.htm > Send comments about the Forum to: > Steven J. Coker, Forum Manager > P.O. Box 359, Charleston, SC 29402 > owner-DUBOSE@LISTS2.ROOTSWEB.com > http://www.dubose.org/ > >

Will someone please tell me about the 'Roll Call" ? First time I ever encountered this. I'm present in Macon,Ga. and best I can tell from page 33 0f Mrs. MacDowell's DuBose Genealogy I'm a direct descendent of all the Isaacs 1-6 . My grandfather is Francis Pierson DuBose, the youngest son of James Allen DuBose and Angeline Johnson. I'm not doing actual research.A nephew is doing all the work and keeping me informed.He has my interested attention.Learning to understand the information has been slow. I try to look in on the DuBose Forum often and have met several interesting people who send e-mail to me once in a while. Friendly DuBose people on this site gave me the information I needed to contact Mrs.. MacDowell to buy her book. Violet DuBose Mullis -----Original Message----- From: Constan476@aol.com <Constan476@aol.com> To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 5:22 PM Subject: Re: DuBose-D Digest V99 #62 >Recently on one of my other Listz they did a Roll Call. They had a great >response. Connie > > >==== DuBose Mailing List ==== >*********** PRUNE YOUR QUOTES! *********** >DuBose Message Board: http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb123571 >Disclaimer: All emails come without guarantees or warranties, either >expressed or implied. Similarities to reality are entirely coincidental. >Send comments about the Forum to: >Steven J. Coker, Forum Manager >P.O. Box 359, Charleston, SC 29402 >DuBose@GeoCities.com >http://www.dubose.org/ >

Present in Lockport, NY. I am still trying to find the family of Nancy Rebecca DuBois (m. JW Thomas, Sr. in early 1800's, Hampton/Colleton, SC). Have also seen her name as: Penny (Dubose) Debois, so you all know what a time I've had in trying to find her family! Regards, Margie

All of my Whilden ancestors who fought in the War Between the States are direct descendants of Elizabeth Dubose and Jonathan Whilden. Elizabeth Dubose, daughter of Isaac Dubose (Dubois, DuBosc ca. 1660-1714/21) and Suzanne Couillandeau (ca. 1663-ca 1742), married Jonathan Whilden (ca 1687-1736) a Christ Church Parish planter. They had seven children. Elizabeth's brother John Dubose (ca. 1706-ca. 1778) married ca. 1730 Mary Whilden, a niece of Jonathan Whilden. They had eight children. Would love to exchange information on Dubose / Whildens and related lines. Best regards, Ann Whilden Lanneau

ELizabeth I am interested in European Ancesty and learning everything I can about it. However I am a DuBois. i believe Lecelles Nord France. Connie

Testing my theory that the DuBose name appeared early in America but only in SC as a descendant of Isaac, et al (I think someone, somewhere read that final c as an e and the rest is DuBose history...) So, does anyone know of a DuBose who was not originally from Isaac's line? Am I over-generalizing by saying that if your name is DuBose consistently back to SC before, say, 1750, you are are an Isaac descendant? I'd venture to say that if your name is DuBose, you are indeed such a descendant (exceptions given occasionally for the mysterious DuBoise derivations), E

It could be that your grandfather went along with what many people today still believe--that the DuBose name was once DuBois. I can't tell you how many times I've tried researching, making a reservation, or just talking to someone when I've told them my name (DuBois) and even spelled it for them, and they still write down "DuBose" and then when I point out to them gently that it is "DuBois" they still insist on saying that "Oh, but around here, this (DuBose) is how you spell and pronounce "DuBois". Trying to explain the difference usually falls on deaf ears. So it is a very common misconception. But, Betty, it could also be because your name once DID have an "i" in it--spelled DuBoise. I do occasionally find a once-DuBose turn into a DuBoise in a record or two. And later the "e" is dropped, or the "i" is dropped and you are back where you started. So it is possible your grandfather was right and at the same time, so was your genealogist. A final note--I've seen DuBose's eventually become a DuBois, but I have yet to find it going the other direction. And when I say " the poor DuBoise" family, it is because they could have been from either family, so have to look twice as hard and as often. Hope this helps. Elizabeth DuBois Russo PS--I have seen migrations in my own related families that went from AL to LA to TX, with the stay in LA so short as not to be documented.... Betty Dawn Hamilton wrote: > > I find this to be very interesting. Many years ago when my grandfather > Charles Sidney DuBose was alive, he used to tell us that we once had an "i" > in our name. I have one cousin whose father told her that our family came > to Texas by way of Louisiana (living there a short while). The current tree > that I am researching that another cousin had researched professionally is > > Isaac DUBOSC - Susannah COUILLANDEAU > Stephen - Lydia > John DUBOSE - Lydia CARTER > Jeremiah DUBOSE - Rebecca HAMPTON > John DUBOSE (1st wife Jane Rabb) - Amanda Kate SMITH (my gr grandmother) > Charles Sidney DUBOSE - Margaret (Maggie) Cole MORGAN > Jack Charles DUBOSE - Bobbie Oletha COOK > > Me - Betty Dawn DUBOSE HAMILTON and siblings > Terry J. DUBOSE > Jackie DUBOSE CARY > > We have wills and census records of John and Amanda in Texas, Amanda's > father's will mentioning son-in-law John DuBOSE, and Jeremiah, naming son > John. There are so many Johns in the DuBOSC, DuBOSE, DuBOISE, etc. lines > that I wonder . . . > > The line that we have been researching and seems to be pretty will > documented arrived from France and then moved and lived -> SC, FL, AL, to > TX. I don't have a Louisiana stop anywhere, nor do I see an "i" in our > surname anywhere. I keep wondering, however, why my grandfather's > generation mentioned both? > > Betty > > Betty Dawn Hamilton, LRS * mailto:bhamilt@worldnet.att.net > Historian, Terry County Historical Commission > > ==== DuBose Mailing List ==== > *********** PRUNE YOUR QUOTES! *********** > //// > (0 0) > +----------oOO----(_)----------------+ > Send comments about the Forum to: > Steven J. Coker, Forum Manager > P.O. Box 359, Charleston, SC 29402 > DuBose@GeoCities.com > http://www.dubose.org/ > +-----------------oOO----------------+ > |__|__| > || || > ooO Ooo > DuBose Message Board: http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb123571