I think it is safe to say that the DuBose's/DuBois are of many different faith's now, all have one God . Allison

what religion was isaac dubose

Edwin DuBose Mouzon was born May 19, 1869 in Spartansburg, S.C. and died February 10, 1937 in Charlotte, N. C. He graduated A.B. at Wofford College, Spartansburg, S.C. in 1889. In that yearm he joined the South Carolina Conference of the Methodist Episcopal Church, S.C. and was soon transfered to Texas, serving pastorates at Bryan (1889-1890) Caldwell (1890)), Galveston (1891-1893), Flatonioa (1895), Abilene 1896-97) and Fort Worth (1898-1901)). During 1901-1904, he was pastor of the Central Methodist Church of Kansas City, Mo. and then returned to Texas, ahving charge of the Travis Park Church at San Antonio during 1904-08. For two years thereafter, he was professor of theologyh at Southwestern College, Georgetown, Texas. In 1910, he was elected bishop of the M.E. Church, South Carolina. Besides meeting the routine demands on the time of a Methodist bishop, Edwin was a leader in various activities to promote the betterment and extend the influence of his denomination. At Rock Hill on October 27, 1926, Edwin took the Chair of the upper S.C. Conference. He was one of the dounders of Southern Methodist University; assisted in establishing Searritt College for Christian workers, in Nashville, Tenn; was the bishop chosen to inaugurate the autonomous Methodist Church of Brazil in 1930, and was chairman of the board of Christian education of the Methodist Church, S.C. from 1930-1937. From his early ministry on , he was vitally interested in the unification of the various branches of American Methodism, being one of the chief exponents of unification in S.C. He was co-chairman of the commission on unification from 1930-1937 and played a large part in preparing the plan which was adopted in 1938 by the Methodist Episcopal Church, and Methodist Protestant Church. He was also very interested in the missionary work of the church and made official visits to the missions in Mexico in 1911 and South America in 1915. He was a delegate to the Methodist Ecumenical Conferences in Toronto (1911), London (1921) and Atlanta (1931). A strong prohibitionist, Edwin was opposed to the repeal of the 18th amendment. He was widely known and admired as a preacheer and ranked among the half dozen leading pulpit orators in the United States. he was recognized as the leader of the liberal theological group and was held in high esteem by the younger Methodist preachers and laymen. he delivered the Cole lectures at Vanderbilt University in 1925, the Fondern lectures at Southern Methodist University in 1925 and the Lyhman Beecher lectures on preaching at Yale University (the first southern minister to hold this important lectureship) in 1929. Thses were published in book form as The Program of Jesus and The Missionary Evangel (1925) and Preaching with Authority (1929). His other published books were: Does God Care? (1919) and The Fundamentals of Methodist (1913). In addition,He contributed to church periodicals. Frankness, forthrightness and deep sincerity were among his salient personal characteristics. With these qualities were combined with a sympathy, kindness and understanding that endeared him to all that knew him. A unique evidence of the esteem in which he was held by people of all denominations was the actions of the Hebrew United Brotherhood of Charlotte, N.C. in rememberance of him after his death in sending a substantial gift of money to the Children's Home at Winston-Salem, N.C. in rememberance of him. The degree of D.D. was conferred upon him by Southwestern University in 1905 and he received the honary degree off LLD from Southwestern (1911), Duke (1930), and Southern Methodist (1935) universities, He was 32nd degree Mason. Politically he was a Democrat. Edwin was a Bishop for 27 years. The National Cyclopedia of American Biography, 1967.

In a message dated 3/9/2000 1:47:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Popeye333@aol.com writes: << so his father was methodist? most duboses i know are anglican >> ALL the DuBoses I know are Southern Baptist of some flavor, or some other equally fundamentalist, born-again religion. Pat DuBose Griffin Mordonna22@aol.com

so his father was methodist? most duboses i know are anglican

That may be interesting to all, so thanks. The fellow whose name I saw in our Methodist Church had the surname of DuBose. Bebe In a message dated 3/6/00 5:15:08 PM, Maryd0318@aol.com writes: <<Bebe, There was a bishop Edwin Dubose Mouzon who was in North Carolina among other places....His home in Charlotte is now on a Preservation list....I have also heard of a Methodist church named Mouzon Methodist in NC. I have some biographical info on him if you are interested and would be happy to post it. </XMP> ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <DuBose-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (rly-zd05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.229]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v69.17) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 17:15:08 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.27]) by rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (v69.17) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 17:14:32 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12250; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:12:02 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:12:02 -0800 (PST) From: Maryd0318@aol.com Message-ID: <df.20f2400.25f58710@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:11:28 EST Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings Old-To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 Resent-Message-ID: <cUkZxC.A.T-C.w0Cx4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1168 X-Loop: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: DuBose-L-request@rootsweb.com >>

Bebe, There was a bishop Edwin Dubose Mouzon who was in North Carolina among other places....His home in Charlotte is now on a Preservation list....I have also heard of a Methodist church named Mouzon Methodist in NC. I have some biographical info on him if you are interested and would be happy to post it.

Interesting...but there must also have been an NC Methodist DuBose Bishop, I would think. If I find anything new I will post it. Bebe In a message dated 3/6/00 1:18:29 AM, Popeye333@aol.com writes: <<William Porcher DuBose was the Bishop of Tennessee, he was Episcopalian. </XMP> ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <DuBose-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.1]) by air-yd01.mail.aol.com (v69.17) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 01:18:29 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.27]) by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v69.17) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 01:18:10 1900 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26522; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:17:38 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 22:17:38 -0800 (PST) From: Popeye333@aol.com Message-ID: <ae.2178845.25f4a762@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 01:17:06 EST Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings Old-To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 8 Resent-Message-ID: <m3Z2kC.A.8dG.B20w4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1165 X-Loop: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: DuBose-L-request@rootsweb.com >>

William Porcher DuBose was the Bishop of Tennessee, he was Episcopalian. Since Isaac DuBose was a Huguenot and beholding to the King of England for his land grant, it would be wise if he had supported the Church of England

William Porcher DuBose was the Bishop of Tennessee, he was Episcopalian.

I believe my DuBose were Methodist. I found some listed as members of a church in Mt. Sterling near Butler, Choctaw County, Ala. ( I am not sure if Mt. Sterling is in Choctaw County or Sumpter County, probably Sumpter. I think it is on the line between the two).in about 1873 or1874, I believe. I don't have the records in front of me. Beth Ann Spraberry I think I found that record in Confederate Echos by Ivison. I checked and could find no additional early records from the church.or from Ivison. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bebenjohn@aol.com> To: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 5:43 AM Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings > > In a message dated 2/13/00 2:21:18 PM, elizabethrusso@home.com writes: > > << > The DuBoses tended to migrate throughout the south; the DuBois' stayed > in SC, or left for Alabama and TN. The DuBoses were more often Baptist; > the DuBois, Methodist, although a DuBose was a Methodist bishop.>> > > Elizabeth, > > My son in law's paternal grandmother was Geraldine (DuBose) Engel of SC and > Ga. whose husband told me that for a period of time spelled her surname > DuBois, reason unknown to him. Geraldine, b. ca 1911 as I recall, proves > back to two sons of Isaac DuBose. I have not found any trace of DuBois in > her family. > > I am very interested in your statement regarding a DuBose who was a Methodist > Bishop. Please tell me more about him...his line, if you know it. We were > sitting in the largest Methodist church in NC a couple of month ago and while > studying the outstanding stained glass windows I noticed a small DuBose > figure placed at the lower left foot of Christ. > > I look froward to hearing from you. > > Bebe Johns Fox > Winston-Salem, NC > >

In a message dated 3/5/00 9:28:08 AM, stasha@wbhg.com writes: <<What is a "DuBose" figure? Sharon Long Starling>> It is just a stained glass depiction of a man (figure) in a long robe as I recall. There is something mentioned re the Bishop in some local church info but not enough to figure out exactly who he was, though no doubt serving NC as a Methodist Bishop. Bebe

What is a "DuBose" figure? Sharon Long Starling ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bebenjohn@aol.com> To: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 4:43 AM Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings > I am very interested in your statement regarding a DuBose who was a Methodist > Bishop. Please tell me more about him...his line, if you know it. We were > sitting in the largest Methodist church in NC a couple of month ago and while > studying the outstanding stained glass windows I noticed a small DuBose > figure placed at the lower left foot of Christ. > > I look froward to hearing from you. > > Bebe Johns Fox > Winston-Salem, NC

In a message dated 2/13/00 2:21:18 PM, elizabethrusso@home.com writes: << The DuBoses tended to migrate throughout the south; the DuBois' stayed in SC, or left for Alabama and TN. The DuBoses were more often Baptist; the DuBois, Methodist, although a DuBose was a Methodist bishop.>> Elizabeth, My son in law's paternal grandmother was Geraldine (DuBose) Engel of SC and Ga. whose husband told me that for a period of time spelled her surname DuBois, reason unknown to him. Geraldine, b. ca 1911 as I recall, proves back to two sons of Isaac DuBose. I have not found any trace of DuBois in her family. I am very interested in your statement regarding a DuBose who was a Methodist Bishop. Please tell me more about him...his line, if you know it. We were sitting in the largest Methodist church in NC a couple of month ago and while studying the outstanding stained glass windows I noticed a small DuBose figure placed at the lower left foot of Christ. I look froward to hearing from you. Bebe Johns Fox Winston-Salem, NC

I am looking for any information on the Dutart family of Charleston, South Carolina. Believe original spelling to be Dutarque. Rebecca Dutart married Thomas A. Johnson ca. 1850-1855. Rebecca is my great, great grandmother and I can find the Dutart family and Johnson Family intermingled with other families, I can't connect the pieces. Thanks in advance. Jean Faulk crckrsuze@aol.com

Dear Herman, For reasons explained earlier on this list, the Dubose and the DuBois families were two completely separate lines. I am a DuBois descendant, and have accordingly not collected data on the Dubose line. I am collecting data on slaves from my DUBOIS, HUTCHINSON, CARNE, and other lines. My DuBois line left SC for Alabama in 1820, well before the time you are speaking of. I hope you will have some luck and hear from someone who can help. Researching slave ancestry can be a daunting task, and we all owe it to each other to help one another out. Good luck and happy hunting! Elizabeth DuBois Russo HDebose@aol.com wrote: > > Elizabeth, > > I am new to this list and of African American heritage. Will you please > provide any information you may have regarding slaves connected to the > Dubose family. My great great grand father was a slave by the name of > Stephen Dubose. He was married to a Laura Graham Dubose and resided in > Society Hill, Darlington County according to the 1870 Census. They had 12 > children with following names: James, Mitt, Katherine, Albert, Lang, Scout, > Sally, Lonnie, Elizar, Leo, Pollie and Hester. There is information that > there is some connection to the Gandy's who had a plantation near a Dubose > plantation in Society Hill. If you have any information regarding Stephen > Dubose's slave line and connections, please share it with me. Thanks. > > Herman DeBose

Hi Sharon! What a chance to get on the soapbox! This topic was once discussed almost to death between 1 and 2 years ago, so I hope the oldtimers will forgive me, or at least correct me. The DUBOIS and DUBOSE lines are completely different lines. Having said that, however, you should know that there have been DUBOSEs who have eventually changed the spelling of their name to DUBOIS, and then there are the hybrid DUBOISE families who may be descended from either. My theory is that all DUBOSE lines can trace their ancestry back to ISAAC DUBOSE, who in turn was a duBosc/duBosq prior to coming to SC. I think it was a simple matter of turning that c into an e--either a clerical error or misspelling or by design (but why?) There may be duBosq/duBosc connections with duBois back in France, but I haven't seen proof. Suffice it to say that they are two different lines in SC and America. Indeed, it would be quite rare to find the name Dubose north of the Mason-Dixon line prior to 1800, whereas the DuBois name is all over the place, especially northern US thanks to the procreative proclivities of the descendants of one Chretien DuBois. The southern branches prior to the Rev. War of the DUBOIS family are mostly those descended from my line, JOHN DUBOIS, of the Charleston area who was paying quitrents in the province by 1696. Even though the DUBOIS and the DUBOSE families lived in the same areas with similar occupations and religious preferences (at least early on), you will rarely find them intermarrying (I don't think I've seen it at all, but it is possible.) The southern DUBOSE families multiplied at about the same miraculous rate as the northern DUBOIS families and are today quite numerous. Many Dubose famlies were slave owners, and you will find quite a few African American Duboses as a result. W.E.B. duBois notwithstanding, there are relatively few African American DuBois by comparison. In the south, the DuBois' tended to own small numbers of slaves if at all, and slaveowning DuBois of the north probably freed theirs well before their southern counterparts. W.E.B. DuBois was a descendant of a northern DuBois grandfather who had fought for the British in the RW; he settled in the Islands for a while and produced at least one mixed race child who in turn was W.E.B.'s father. I may be off by one generation here. The DuBoses tended to migrate throughout the south; the DuBois' stayed in SC, or left for Alabama and TN. The DuBoses were more often Baptist; the DuBois, Methodist, although a DuBose was a Methodist bishop. Today the Duboses are so much more numerous than the DuBois in the South that southerners often will look at the name "DuBois" and pronounce it "DuBose". I don't know if the reverse is true in the north. So there you have at least some of the theories. Mostly personal observations, so take them with a grain of salt. Except to say that these truly are two different lines. I would remind you, however, that census takers misspelled both family names constantly, using the other's name by mistake, but that does not mean the families were related. Inthe 1790 census for Cheraw District in SC, for example, nearly all those listed as "Duboise" are in fact "Dubose". Elizabeth DuBois Russo Sharon Starling wrote: > > Hi Elizabeth, > I have attached a portion of your earlier message. I am from a DuBose line > and fairly new at this. Just wondered if you could explain a little about > DuBois as opposed to DUBOSE. Are the lines related, with just a change in > the spelling or a completely different family. > Thanks, > Sharon > > > Is this guy my own ancestor PETER DUBOIS whom I thought only hung out in > > Charleston and Old Berkeley County (St. Thomas/St. Denis Parish)? Or is > > he a DUBOSE? Or is the origination of a new DUBOISE line?? > >

Hi Elizabeth, I have attached a portion of your earlier message. I am from a DuBose line and fairly new at this. Just wondered if you could explain a little about DuBois as opposed to DUBOSE. Are the lines related, with just a change in the spelling or a completely different family. Thanks, Sharon > Is this guy my own ancestor PETER DUBOIS whom I thought only hung out in > Charleston and Old Berkeley County (St. Thomas/St. Denis Parish)? Or is > he a DUBOSE? Or is the origination of a new DUBOISE line?? >

Once part of Colleton Co.--Presently .3 of a mile from SC 217 and just across the border into Bamberg County. Section 1 Row 5 George Alton DuBois March 9, 1906 Feb. 3, 1951 Mary Lou Goodwin DuBois June 11, 1910 Nov. 24, 1971 Philip Melvin Goodwin Sept. 18, 1876 Sept. 1, 1945 Julia Miley Goodwin April 26, 1881 July 23, 1961

Go north on Bell's Cross Roads 2.2 mi on SC64 to Stephens Cross Roads. Turn left S 15-27 at intersection bear right and drive 4 mi. from Rt. 64. On right hand side within view of road. Is a two story church---a dirt road leading up to it.1 mi. from church is the cemetery. Henry William DuBois April 23, 1876 June 17,1899 David Rice DuBois Dec. 18, 1877 Catherine Rice DuBois Feb. 7, 1883 Oct. 12, 1886