Been swamped with the real world here, and have missed out on the question. How can I attempt to help here? Elizabeth DuBois Russo Maryd0318@aol.com wrote: > > I don't know.......Elizabeth Russo....can you help on this one? For those > who don't know Elizabeth is listmaster of the Methodist-L.

Elizabeth....I also think someone inquired about the difference between Methodist Episcopal and Methodist....thought maybe you might know?????

Elizabeth, Someone was interested in Bishop Mouzon's ancestry. I think I started the Methodist question with inquirey into ancestry of a Bishop DuBose (surname actually DuBose) whose figure is in stained glass at the foot of panel of Christ in the largest Methodist Church in NC...Winston Salem. It is Centenary Methodist Church. Have you heard of him? DuBose is a surname in my son in law's line (his grandmother) but I recently saw perhaps at Rootweb that you and I may have a connection in eastern NC, I think it was. Can't recall the line...getting old!! Bebe Fox Winston Salem, NC

I'm looking for information on Dr. Dubose who was living in the Andrews area of SC in 1928, Wmsburg County. Does anyone know of him? Thanks.. Tia Matthews

Lamar Chapman I have the information that you are looking for but my emails to you keep bouncing. Please contact me directly. Thanks Doyle T. Brittain

I am seeking information on my great-great grandfather, Wade Hampton DuBose. My records indicate that he was born in S.C. ca 1801 and married Hannah White of Macon, Miss and had two sons, John and (My great grandfather) Wesley Hampton. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Lamar Chapman

I believe the Huguenot "religion" came out of the Reformation and the split with the "Roman Church." I have read it was a strict, Calvinistic faith without the trappings of Catholicism (incense, statutes of saints, litany in Latin, status of the Bishop of Rome as head of the church, etc.). Probably much like early Baptist, Presbyterians, etc. in its plainness. As with all European nations during that period, the religious issues became caught up politics as various factions in the royal houses split and jockeyed for domination using religious issues as a stalking horse for political ambitions. Any good college level history text can give details about the politics of the era and the battles between Huguenots and Roman Catholic nobles from the mid-1500s through 1680s as each sought to dominate the emerging nation-state of France. One that I have is "The Renaissance and Reformation," Second Edition, by Henry S. Lucas, U of Washington, copyright 1934, 1960, Harper and Row, Publishers. It gives a good overview of the complex politics involved in the issuance of the Edict of Nantes in 1598, which gave recognition -- of a sort -- to religious toleration of the Protestants in France. The revocation of the Edict, by Louis XIV around 1685 basically resulted in driving the faithful Huguenots out of France (one supposed quote of the era was Louis and his followers vow that the Huguenots could, "...become Catholic, or become a head shorter!...") Given the time of Isaac 'duBosc' moving to the new world it would probably be a good assumption that he and his (later) wife, Suzanne, were caught up in that great migration. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Popeye333@aol.com> To: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 10:59 AM Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings > French Huguenot is not a religion. > >

Yes, I think the Huguenots were early French Protestants. As they fled the religious oppression and spread around the world, they most likely were absorbed in to the local established Protestant sects. The following web pages have some history (I am not a historian, and can not vouch for the accuracy): http://www.ukans.edu/heritage/cousin/huguenot.html <http://www.ukans.edu/heritage/cousin/huguenot.html> I does contain an interesting Time Line for the Huguenots. Terry J. DuBose, M.S., RDMS Director, Diagnostic Medical Sonography Program CHRP, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences Little Rock, Arkansas, USA 501-686-6510 http://www.io.com/~dubose/ <http://www.io.com/~dubose/> http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm <http://www.uams.edu/CHRP/dmshome.htm> http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm <http://www.obgyn.net/us/panel/panel.htm> -----Original Message----- From: Bebenjohn@aol.com [mailto:Bebenjohn@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 9:24 AM To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings Is French Huguenot a religion? I thought that the Huguenots were just NOT Catholic. I am just guessing but would think that they would have become members of the Church of England/Anglican when came to America. Then later generations were Baptist, Methodists, etc. Bebe In a message dated 3/10/00 8:36:20 AM, huntc@gte.net writes: <<French Huguenot -----Original Message----- From: Popeye333@aol.com <Popeye333@aol.com> To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 10, 2000 1:09 AM Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings >what religion was isaac dubose > > </XMP> ----------------------- Headers - ------------------------------ Return-Path: <DuBose-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v69.17) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:36:20 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.27]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v69.17) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:35:52 1900 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08842; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 05:35:13 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 05:35:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000601bf8a96$e7814740$d4541b3f@ch> From: "Charlotte" <huntc@gte.net> Old-To: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:45:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <nScCSD.A.0JC.RoPy4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1176 X-Loop: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: DuBose-L-request@rootsweb.com >>

French Hugeunot means they were Hugeunots from France. Huegenots are a fundamentalist, Protestant sect of Christianity. The ones who emigrated to this country in the late seventeenth century were escaping religious persecution by Catholics in Europe. I believe there are still practitioners of this sect in the South Carolina Low Country, but I may be wrong. Pat DuBose Griffin Mordonna22@aol.com

In a message dated 3/9/2000 11:19:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Popeye333@aol.com writes: << what religion was isaac dubose >> Isaac DuBose (the emigrant), son of Louis DuBose (nee DuBosc) was a French Huegenot. Pat DuBose Griffin Mordonna22@aol.com

Lloyce, I descend through Isaac, the two Peters, Amos, Amos Archibald to his daughter Minnie. Do you have any information on Amos' wife? I have her listed as Tabitha Henderson. I would love to know more about her. Also, where are your Wests from? I am also a West descendant (from LA and Newton County, TX). Thanks, Melissa Franks Gantt Texas LloyceWest@aol.com wrote: > Where does the A.M.E. (African Methodist Episcopalian) fit in to the matrix > of Anglican, Episcopalian, Methodist, and Methodist Episcopalian? > > And, why is this interesting/important to genealogical researchers? Are we > getting too far afield? > > While all the Dubose/DuBose/Dobois/DuBoise, etc. seem to be very sincerely of > some religious persuasion or the other, there is always the underlying > current of why the clear philosophical differences appear to divide the > North/South branches and the very questions of whether or not they are > branches of each other. Could there be long standing dividing lines > fracturing along differing forms of the Reformation in Europe, Protestantism > in America, Baptizing or Sprinkling, slave holding or many other subjects > that the religion question -- when placed in context of the social changes of > different times -- might help to resolve? > > Lloyce West > (through Isaac, the two Peters, Amos, Milton Hampton, Neighbor Furman, Donley > Neighbor Dubose and his daughter Verda Dubose West) > LloyceWest@aol.com > (202) 479-0673 voice or Fax

I don't know.......Elizabeth Russo....can you help on this one? For those who don't know Elizabeth is listmaster of the Methodist-L.

-----Original Message----- From: Popeye333@aol.com <Popeye333@aol.com> To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 10, 2000 12:00 PM Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings >French Huguenot is not a religion. > There is a Huguenot church in Charleston in which meetings are still held during certain time--That's all I know so I can't argue the point. C.

Hi. I found this very interesting. In what way is Methodist Episcopal different from Methodist or Episcopal? Obviously, a combination of both??????????????????? Thanks, Beth Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <Maryd0318@aol.com> To: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:42 PM Subject: Bishop Edwin DuBose Mouzon > Edwin DuBose Mouzon was born May 19, 1869 in Spartansburg, S.C. and died > February 10, 1937 in Charlotte, N. C. > > He graduated A.B. at Wofford College, Spartansburg, S.C. in 1889. In that > yearm he joined the South Carolina Conference of the Methodist Episcopal > Church, S.C. and was soon transfered to Texas, serving pastorates at Bryan > (1889-1890) Caldwell (1890)), Galveston (1891-1893), Flatonioa (1895), > Abilene 1896-97) and Fort Worth (1898-1901)). During 1901-1904, he was > pastor of the Central Methodist Church of Kansas City, Mo. and then returned > to Texas, ahving charge of the Travis Park Church at San Antonio during > 1904-08. For two years thereafter, he was professor of theologyh at > Southwestern College, Georgetown, Texas. In 1910, he was elected bishop of > the M.E. Church, South Carolina. Besides meeting the routine demands on the > time of a Methodist bishop, Edwin was a leader in various activities to > promote the betterment and extend the influence of his denomination. At > Rock Hill on October 27, 1926, Edwin took the Chair of the upper S.C. > Conference. He was one of the dounders of Southern Methodist University; > assisted in establishing Searritt College for Christian workers, in > Nashville, Tenn; was the bishop chosen to inaugurate the autonomous Methodist > Church of Brazil in 1930, and was chairman of the board of Christian > education of the Methodist Church, S.C. from 1930-1937. From his early > ministry on , he was vitally interested in the unification of the various > branches of American Methodism, being one of the chief exponents of > unification in S.C. He was co-chairman of the commission on unification from > 1930-1937 and played a large part in preparing the plan which was adopted in > 1938 by the Methodist Episcopal Church, and Methodist Protestant Church. He > was also very interested in the missionary work of the church and made > official visits to the missions in Mexico in 1911 and South America in 1915. > He was a delegate to the Methodist Ecumenical Conferences in Toronto (1911), > London (1921) and Atlanta (1931). > > A strong prohibitionist, Edwin was opposed to the repeal of the 18th > amendment. He was widely known and admired as a preacheer and ranked among > the half dozen leading pulpit orators in the United States. he was recognized > as the leader of the liberal theological group and was held in high esteem > by the younger Methodist preachers and laymen. he delivered the Cole > lectures at Vanderbilt University in 1925, the Fondern lectures at Southern > Methodist University in 1925 and the Lyhman Beecher lectures on preaching at > Yale University (the first southern minister to hold this important > lectureship) in 1929. Thses were published in book form as The Program of > Jesus and The Missionary Evangel (1925) and Preaching with Authority (1929). > His other published books were: Does God Care? (1919) and The Fundamentals of > Methodist (1913). In addition,He contributed to church periodicals. > Frankness, forthrightness and deep sincerity were among his salient personal > characteristics. With these qualities were combined with a sympathy, > kindness and understanding that endeared him to all that knew him. A unique > evidence of the esteem in which he was held by people of all denominations > was the actions of the Hebrew United Brotherhood of Charlotte, N.C. in > rememberance of him after his death in sending a substantial gift of money to > the Children's Home at Winston-Salem, N.C. in rememberance of him. The degree > of D.D. was conferred upon him by Southwestern University in 1905 and he > received the honary degree off LLD from Southwestern (1911), Duke (1930), > and Southern Methodist (1935) universities, He was 32nd degree Mason. > Politically he was a Democrat. Edwin was a Bishop for 27 years. > The National Cyclopedia of American Biography, 1967. > > >

French Huguenot -----Original Message----- From: Popeye333@aol.com <Popeye333@aol.com> To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 10, 2000 1:09 AM Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings >what religion was isaac dubose > >

Where does the A.M.E. (African Methodist Episcopalian) fit in to the matrix of Anglican, Episcopalian, Methodist, and Methodist Episcopalian? And, why is this interesting/important to genealogical researchers? Are we getting too far afield? While all the Dubose/DuBose/Dobois/DuBoise, etc. seem to be very sincerely of some religious persuasion or the other, there is always the underlying current of why the clear philosophical differences appear to divide the North/South branches and the very questions of whether or not they are branches of each other. Could there be long standing dividing lines fracturing along differing forms of the Reformation in Europe, Protestantism in America, Baptizing or Sprinkling, slave holding or many other subjects that the religion question -- when placed in context of the social changes of different times -- might help to resolve? Lloyce West (through Isaac, the two Peters, Amos, Milton Hampton, Neighbor Furman, Donley Neighbor Dubose and his daughter Verda Dubose West) LloyceWest@aol.com (202) 479-0673 voice or Fax

French Huguenot is not a religion.

In a message dated 3/10/00 10:04:48 AM, johnspraberry@pics.net writes: <<Hi. I found this very interesting. In what way is Methodist Episcopal different from Methodist or Episcopal? Obviously, a combination of both??????????????????? Thanks, Beth Ann >> I hope someone who knows a lot more about this than I do answers. I am a Methodist and should know but not sure. However, earliest Methodists in this country were rather emotional during services. Francis Asbury, famous Methodist who came to Va., etc., from England and later became first Methodist Bishop in this country wrote in his extant travel journal "we had a melting time" and mentioned services in which, as I recall, there was some exhorting (calling out). Some members even passed out from feeling the spirit. The travel Methodist preachers (Circuit Riders) were known for how they could rouse a crowd and members prayer loud and powerful prayers. I THINK all this became to be looked on as kind of undignified, very unlike Anglicans (forerunners to Episcopal, I think). I know that when the decision was made to have Methodist Bishops some of the preachers dropped out of the faith, at least the beloved Rev. O'Kelly did and for awhile called his branch of Methodism by another name and then later became minister of the Christian Church in Orange Co., NC. Asbury had BEGGED him to stay but I suppose he did not like a Bishop being between the people and God. Too much like Catholicism/Pope?? My church is Methodist Episcopal but we are not of the Episcopal faith. We are Methodists but maybe have some formality/rituals closer to Episcopal than some other branches of the Methodist faith. Bebe

Is French Huguenot a religion? I thought that the Huguenots were just NOT Catholic. I am just guessing but would think that they would have become members of the Church of England/Anglican when came to America. Then later generations were Baptist, Methodists, etc. Bebe In a message dated 3/10/00 8:36:20 AM, huntc@gte.net writes: <<French Huguenot -----Original Message----- From: Popeye333@aol.com <Popeye333@aol.com> To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 10, 2000 1:09 AM Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings >what religion was isaac dubose > > </XMP> ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <DuBose-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v69.17) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:36:20 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.27]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v69.17) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:35:52 1900 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08842; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 05:35:13 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 05:35:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000601bf8a96$e7814740$d4541b3f@ch> From: "Charlotte" <huntc@gte.net> Old-To: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: SC DuBois(e) postings Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:45:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <nScCSD.A.0JC.RoPy4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1176 X-Loop: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: DuBose-L-request@rootsweb.com >>

Thanks so much for all the information regarding Edwin DuBose Mouzon. He was no doubt a caring and certainly an outstanding man. Bebe in Winston Salem, NC