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    1. Re: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC
    2. Is there any information on a former slave name Stephen DuBose who was married to a Laura Graham DuBose. We are looking for information that sent Stephen to the Gandy plantation. Thanks. Herman DeBose

    04/23/2000 09:38:27
    1. Re: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC
    2. Robert D. Brooke
    3. hlwar wrote: > So we decided to stop the Register at 1927, to > respect the right of privacy of anyone living. > Linda > So does this mean I've only got ten years to live (I was born in 1937), or does it mean one no longer has any privacy rights once they become 72, or does it mean the whole premise is flawed? Just curious. Bob Brooke > ---------- > > From: FlagWaver@aol.com > > To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon > Co., SC > > Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000 6:19 PM > > > > Question: Was this book published by a government agency? If not, how > does > > the privacy act apply to church registers and minutes?

    04/22/2000 08:38:47
    1. Re: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC
    2. Linda ....I have already sent my check for the book....Question....is the microfilm available at the Clarendon Archives. I have a feeling I will need to look at it after I finish with the book. I have seen the Cemetery listings ....and know that I have a large numbers of folks who attended that church.....will probably need to look at the microfilm to finish getting the information.

    04/22/2000 04:52:35
    1. Re: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC
    2. hlwar
    3. No the book was not published by a government agency. The information on the church can be viewed on the microfilm up through the 1980's. But we were informed that you could get into trouble if you printed information on persons that could still be living. So we decided to stop the Register at 1927, to respect the right of privacy of anyone living. Linda ---------- > From: FlagWaver@aol.com > To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC > Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000 6:19 PM > > Question: Was this book published by a government agency? If not, how does > the privacy act apply to church registers and minutes?

    04/22/2000 04:47:40
    1. Re: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC
    2. hlwar
    3. Sorry, I do not see him in this book, wish I could have helped you more. Linda ---------- > From: Jack DuBose <jack.dubose@conwaycorp.net> > To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC > Date: Saturday, April 22, 2000 4:59 PM > > Any entry for a Jesse DuBose ca 1785/95-184? m. Leah (Willis?) ca 1795-1860. > Have document showing them selling land in "Sumter District of Clarendon Co" > in 1820. Some researchers cite Jesse's father as Jeptha, however, Jeptha's > "Jesse" is shown as born in 1810..too late for my ggg grandfather. > > Jack DuBose, Conway, Arkansas jack.dubose@conwaycorp.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: hlwar <hlwar@FTC-I.NET> > To: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 2:08 PM > Subject: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC > > > > I am posting this to the List to let anyone > > researching family information on the > > DuBose Families-Clarendon County, SC > > > > If anyone is interested in more information, please > > e-mail me directly. > > Linda hlwar@ftc-i.net > > > > The Register & Session Minutes > > of Midway Presbyterian Church > > Clarendon County, SC > > 1801 - 1902 > > > > By: Lois Anne Warren-Daniels, > > Linda J. Warren & Dianne C. Warren > > > > The Session Minutes stop at 1901. > > The Registers stop at 1927, due to the Privacy Act. > > Registers include: Pastors, Elders, Deacons, > > Communicants, Baptisms, Marriage & Deaths. > > > > Some names have dates, parents names, etc. > > & some are names only. > > > > This book has the DuBose name listed, numerous > > times. If you know that you roots were from Midway > > Church, you may be interested. > > > > Hope this book is of help to researchers. > > Thank you, > > Linda > > > >

    04/22/2000 03:19:10
    1. Re: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC
    2. Jack DuBose
    3. Any entry for a Jesse DuBose ca 1785/95-184? m. Leah (Willis?) ca 1795-1860. Have document showing them selling land in "Sumter District of Clarendon Co" in 1820. Some researchers cite Jesse's father as Jeptha, however, Jeptha's "Jesse" is shown as born in 1810..too late for my ggg grandfather. Jack DuBose, Conway, Arkansas jack.dubose@conwaycorp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: hlwar <hlwar@FTC-I.NET> To: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 2:08 PM Subject: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC > I am posting this to the List to let anyone > researching family information on the > DuBose Families-Clarendon County, SC > > If anyone is interested in more information, please > e-mail me directly. > Linda hlwar@ftc-i.net > > The Register & Session Minutes > of Midway Presbyterian Church > Clarendon County, SC > 1801 - 1902 > > By: Lois Anne Warren-Daniels, > Linda J. Warren & Dianne C. Warren > > The Session Minutes stop at 1901. > The Registers stop at 1927, due to the Privacy Act. > Registers include: Pastors, Elders, Deacons, > Communicants, Baptisms, Marriage & Deaths. > > Some names have dates, parents names, etc. > & some are names only. > > This book has the DuBose name listed, numerous > times. If you know that you roots were from Midway > Church, you may be interested. > > Hope this book is of help to researchers. > Thank you, > Linda > >

    04/22/2000 02:59:35
    1. [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC
    2. hlwar
    3. I am posting this to the List to let anyone researching family information on the DuBose Families-Clarendon County, SC If anyone is interested in more information, please e-mail me directly. Linda hlwar@ftc-i.net The Register & Session Minutes of Midway Presbyterian Church Clarendon County, SC 1801 - 1902 By: Lois Anne Warren-Daniels, Linda J. Warren & Dianne C. Warren The Session Minutes stop at 1901. The Registers stop at 1927, due to the Privacy Act. Registers include: Pastors, Elders, Deacons, Communicants, Baptisms, Marriage & Deaths. Some names have dates, parents names, etc. & some are names only. This book has the DuBose name listed, numerous times. If you know that you roots were from Midway Church, you may be interested. Hope this book is of help to researchers. Thank you, Linda

    04/22/2000 01:08:26
    1. Re: [DuBose] New Book: Midway Presbyterian Church, Clarendon Co., SC
    2. Question: Was this book published by a government agency? If not, how does the privacy act apply to church registers and minutes?

    04/22/2000 12:19:34
    1. Re: Wade Hampton DUBOSE
    2. Thanks for the lead. Best Regards, Lamar ----- Original Message ----- From: Lettye DuBois <lduboise@aug.com> To: <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Wade Hampton DUBOSE > Contact Alfred Lambert, 7613 Woodside Hill, Fort Worth, Tx. 76176. This > address is the one he had in Jan 96. He has a large Dubose family file and > Wade Hampton Dubose is one listed.. He has married to Rebecca Collins > BROOKS. I don't have his E-mail address handy, but will look for it. > Lettye DuBois > -----Original Message----- > From: mail@desoto.net <lamarchapman@desoto.net> > To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 10:21 AM > Subject: Wade Hampton DUBOSE > > > >I am seeking information on my great-great grandfather, Wade Hampton > DuBose. My records indicate that he was born in S.C. ca 1801 and married > Hannah White of Macon, Miss and had two sons, John and (My great > grandfather) Wesley Hampton. Any information would be appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > >Lamar Chapman > >

    04/02/2000 05:23:05
    1. Re: Wade Hampton DUBOSE
    2. Lettye DuBois
    3. Contact Alfred Lambert, 7613 Woodside Hill, Fort Worth, Tx. 76176. This address is the one he had in Jan 96. He has a large Dubose family file and Wade Hampton Dubose is one listed.. He has married to Rebecca Collins BROOKS. I don't have his E-mail address handy, but will look for it. Lettye DuBois -----Original Message----- From: mail@desoto.net <lamarchapman@desoto.net> To: DuBose-L@rootsweb.com <DuBose-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 10:21 AM Subject: Wade Hampton DUBOSE >I am seeking information on my great-great grandfather, Wade Hampton DuBose. My records indicate that he was born in S.C. ca 1801 and married Hannah White of Macon, Miss and had two sons, John and (My great grandfather) Wesley Hampton. Any information would be appreciated. > >Thanks, >Lamar Chapman

    03/29/2000 07:22:29
    1. Re: DuBose-D Digest V00 #16
    2. Dear Elizabeth, Thank you so much for filling me in with details about the DuBois family. It is good news to find that some of them were wealthy businessmen and merchants. I know so little about the family and am anxious to learn all I can about it. It is very possible that mine were DuBois before they came to Salem by way of Barbados. There must be some reason that they changed from Boyce to DuBois. At this point all I have is the Joseph Boyce b1609 Burford Oxfordshire England but am hoping to learn info about earlier generations. My records show that he was a tanner and his family thereafter were Quakers. Where did your family come from in England? Any idea of professions? A few generations down they were counterfeiting Rhode Island money in NY and later a ship builder, 2 doctors, and the Treasurer of VT. Thank you for sending my querie to the other list which I had thought was only for one DuBois line. Rachel Bell (Rosenberg) "Check out my pages to see if we're related- my files have 4000 names plus links" "New England Genes" -- http://www.angelfire.com/ny/newenglandgenes/index.html <<Elizabeth Russo <elizabethrusso@home.com> wrote: Something to keep in mind about going from England to Babados to SC to Boston and NY. Several DUBOIS men between 1500 and 1700 were known as sailors and merchants. Some were close to the French crown and were among the first explorers of America with Coligny. I've also seen records of a DuBois or two with various trading companies such as the East India Trading Company, and a company trading in the West Indies. So certainly those folks did not need to be exiled nor going anywhere for religious reasons to be found on a ship. They were rice and indigo merchants in SC and Barbados. And in the mid-1800s, my own gggrandfather was traveling from Alabama to Connecticut just to confer with his patent attorney on his cotton gin improvements. Suffice it to say that DUBOIS men of business had the means and desire to travel the world for hundreds of years. And in researching our ancestors, we sometimes need to look beyond the idea that people only got on a boat to leave one country just to permanently settle in another. In cases other than perhaps New England and New York, the reason for travel was possibly more often economic than religious... Elizabeth DuBois Russo>>

    03/26/2000 03:58:03
    1. Re: BOYCE - DU BOIS - DUBOYCE - Barbados
    2. Elizabeth Russo
    3. Dear Rachel, I am copying this response to the DUBOIS-L rootsweb list because it more directly deals with the DUBOIS name. The DUBOSE list is good for DUBOIS folks too if their ancestors, like mine, landed in SC and points south. The earliest record I have for my family is that JOHN DUBOIS paid quitrents in Carolina in 1696 to the Lord Proprietor. Since that time, the name has been consistently spelled DuBois, with an occasional Dubois --small b--in transcriptions. Something to keep in mind about going from England to Babados to SC to Boston and NY. Several DUBOIS men between 1500 and 1700 were known as sailors and merchants. Some were close to the French crown and were among the first explorers of America with Coligny. I've also seen records of a DuBois or two with various trading companies such as the East India Trading Company, and a company trading in the West Indies. So certainly those folks did not need to be exiled nor going anywhere for religious reasons to be found on a ship. They were rice and indigo merchants in SC and Barbados. And in the mid-1800s, my own gggrandfather was traveling from Alabama to Connecticut just to confer with his patent attorney on his cotton gin improvements. Suffice it to say that DUBOIS men of business had the means and desire to travel the world for hundreds of years. And in researching our ancestors, we sometimes need to look beyond the idea that people only got on a boat to leave one country just to permanently settle in another. In cases other than perhaps New England and New York, the reason for travel was possibly more often economic than religious... Elizabeth DuBois Russo RRachelros@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Elizabeth, > > Thanks for the interest in my DuBois family. Any chance you could be on this > line also or have you confirmed that your name was DuBois when they came to > US.? > > The Barbados detour is a recent discovery from a cousin who I think said he > was kicked out of the Church in England and sent to Barbados. "I have been > told that Mary BOYCE d/o Joseph & Eleanor BOYCE.was supposedly born in > Barbados on their way over to America. I have found no independant > confirmation of this as yet." > I have seen Mary added to the other children on several sites and in LDS. > > In the info about Barbados on one web site it said that many were sent from > England basically to get them out of the country. I did find Jospeph BOYCE > on the ship's passenger for The Expedition -November, 1635 departed London > for Barbados. Its unusual that there were only men on this ship (205 > passengers listed) since others to Barbados had atleast some women. This > leads me to believe it could have been an exile. I found only 7 ships went > Eng to Barbados in 1635 where some settled and others continued to New > England. > http://www.primenet.com/~langford/places/bi163.htm#1635 > > Barbados was an important sugar resource and very valuable to England who > eventually found more profits there than from the whole US. > > So my Joseph went to Barbados in 1635 (possibly exiled) and on to Salem in > 1639. Can't seem to find any information on ships making that trip to US and > am trying to find out how long he stayed there. He may have had his first > child there which means that Eleanor Plover must have come on another ship > before 1638 but haven't been able to find any other ships. > > As to my early records- first from an ancestor who did extensive research. > > Then confirmed by "Savages Dictionary of New England" > BOYCE, JOSEPH, Salem 1639, declared freeman 18 May 1642, had > [1] Esther, bapt. 21 Feb. 1641; > [2] Elizabeth 6 Mar.1642; > [3] Joseph, 31 Mar. 1644; and > [4] Benjamin, 16 May 1647. Since these are baptismal records > from Salem it is possible the a 1st child, Mary, may have been born/ bapt. > earlier in Barbados or England. > > -------Rachel --------Dutchess Co. NY > "New England Genes" http://www.angelfire.com/ny/newenglandgenes/index.html > > Elizabeth Russo <elizabethrusso@home.com> wrote: > << > I appreciate your post and will be on the lookout for your names. I > know I've seen these variations while looking at records for Barbados, > and shipping records for the U.S. > > I would love to know what you mean by the "Barbados incident". What > happened? And I'd also like to know where you found your earliest > records. > > Thank you, > > Elizabeth DuBois Russo > Whose John DUBOIS was rumored to have come to SC by way of Barbados by > 1696 > > RRachelros@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Joseph BOYCE, a Quaker, came from England to Salem in 1639 by way of > > Barbados. Later about 1800 the name was changed to DU BOIS by some > brothers and DUBOYCE by others. > .... > Would love to know more about the Barbados incident which may have come > from dissention from the church. > > >> > >

    03/25/2000 12:12:10
    1. BOYCE - DU BOIS - DUBOYCE - Barbados
    2. Hi Elizabeth, Thanks for the interest in my DuBois family. Any chance you could be on this line also or have you confirmed that your name was DuBois when they came to US.? The Barbados detour is a recent discovery from a cousin who I think said he was kicked out of the Church in England and sent to Barbados. "I have been told that Mary BOYCE d/o Joseph & Eleanor BOYCE.was supposedly born in Barbados on their way over to America. I have found no independant confirmation of this as yet." I have seen Mary added to the other children on several sites and in LDS. In the info about Barbados on one web site it said that many were sent from England basically to get them out of the country. I did find Jospeph BOYCE on the ship's passenger for The Expedition -November, 1635 departed London for Barbados. Its unusual that there were only men on this ship (205 passengers listed) since others to Barbados had atleast some women. This leads me to believe it could have been an exile. I found only 7 ships went Eng to Barbados in 1635 where some settled and others continued to New England. http://www.primenet.com/~langford/places/bi163.htm#1635 Barbados was an important sugar resource and very valuable to England who eventually found more profits there than from the whole US. So my Joseph went to Barbados in 1635 (possibly exiled) and on to Salem in 1639. Can't seem to find any information on ships making that trip to US and am trying to find out how long he stayed there. He may have had his first child there which means that Eleanor Plover must have come on another ship before 1638 but haven't been able to find any other ships. As to my early records- first from an ancestor who did extensive research. Then confirmed by "Savages Dictionary of New England" BOYCE, JOSEPH, Salem 1639, declared freeman 18 May 1642, had [1] Esther, bapt. 21 Feb. 1641; [2] Elizabeth 6 Mar.1642; [3] Joseph, 31 Mar. 1644; and [4] Benjamin, 16 May 1647. Since these are baptismal records from Salem it is possible the a 1st child, Mary, may have been born/ bapt. earlier in Barbados or England. -------Rachel --------Dutchess Co. NY "New England Genes" http://www.angelfire.com/ny/newenglandgenes/index.html Elizabeth Russo <elizabethrusso@home.com> wrote: << I appreciate your post and will be on the lookout for your names. I know I've seen these variations while looking at records for Barbados, and shipping records for the U.S. I would love to know what you mean by the "Barbados incident". What happened? And I'd also like to know where you found your earliest records. Thank you, Elizabeth DuBois Russo Whose John DUBOIS was rumored to have come to SC by way of Barbados by 1696 RRachelros@aol.com wrote: > > Joseph BOYCE, a Quaker, came from England to Salem in 1639 by way of > Barbados. Later about 1800 the name was changed to DU BOIS by some brothers and DUBOYCE by others. .... Would love to know more about the Barbados incident which may have come from dissention from the church. >>

    03/24/2000 09:34:03
    1. John Sprayberry
    2. Hello. This message will be brief as I truly believe I am probably the only person in the world looking for my ancestor. I am looking for the father of my grandfather, Willie Bryan DuBose who was born 1867 in Choctaw Ala. to Joel? DuBose and LouEllen Bryan(t). They were seperated by the time my grandfather was 3 yrs. old so they never appeared on a Census together. Most Joels I have found in the area were too young, too old, or were already deceased when my Willie Bryan DuBose was conceived. I know a little more about LouEllen Bryan, her parents were Joseph H. Bryan(t) and Adeline C. Alford of Greene County, Ala. and Choctaw County, Ala. Joseph H. Bryan(t)'s parents were William T. Bryan(t), born 1799 in S.C. and Catherine C. Hutton whose parents were Joseph Hutton and Agnes Calhoun of Abbeville, S.C., , pioneers of Greene County, Ala. Joseph H. died young and Catherine C. married Robert Craig. Well, the message lasted longer than I anticipated. My hope is to perhaps find my DuBose on a tax roll for Choctaw County. Does anyone know where I could obtain this information. Courthouse records were destroyed for the time frame in Choctaw County. Louellen married John Bassett Phillips in 1877 and had another family. Thanks. Beth Ann

    03/24/2000 08:21:46
    1. Re: BOYCE > DU BOIS + DUBOYCE
    2. Elizabeth Russo
    3. I appreciate your post and will be on the lookout for your names. I know I've seen these variations while looking at records for Barbados, and shipping records for the U.S. I would love to know what you mean by the "Barbados incident". What happened? And I'd also like to know where you found your earliest records. Thank you, Elizabeth DuBois Russo Whose John DUBOIS was rumored to have come to SC by way of Barbados by 1696 RRachelros@aol.com wrote: > > Joseph BOYCE, a Quaker, came from England to Salem in 1639 by way of > Barbados. Later about 1800 the name was changed to DU BOIS by some brothers > and DUBOYCE by others. .... Would love to know more > about the Barbados incident which may have come from dissention from the > church.

    03/23/2000 07:58:12
    1. BOYCE > DU BOIS + DUBOYCE
    2. Very sorry about the last notice. My partner was checking his stock and sent it out after I just started. I'm new the the list and would like to hear from any who recognize my line. Hope this is the right list. Joseph BOYCE, a Quaker, came from England to Salem in 1639 by way of Barbados. Later about 1800 the name was changed to DU BOIS by some brothers and DUBOYCE by others. May have been trying to separate from counterfeitter father and grandfather. Some moved from Gloucester RI to Vermont and Quebec. Some of the early records spell it BOYS. (Not sure what happened to several in this generation of 14 children who may have remained in R.I..) It is thought that DU BOIS may have been the original name. Here's the line with birth only and without spouses so it won't take up too much space. I have many more details to share. Am especially interested in finding other descendants and the original family in England. Would love to know more about the Barbados incident which may have come from dissention from the church. Some other sources hav Descendants of Joseph 1 Boyce 1 Joseph 1 Boyce b: Abt. 1609 Burford Oxfordshire England 2 Mary Boyce b: 1637 -1441 Eng or Barbados 2 Esther Hester Boyce b: 1640 bapt Feb 21, 1641 Salem MA 2 Elizabeth Boyce b: 1641 bapt Mar 6, 1642 2 Joseph 2 Boyce b: Mar 31, 1644 bapt- Salem MA 3 Sarah Boyce b: Dec 4, 1668 3 Benjamin Boyce b: 1671 3 Joseph 3 Boyce b: 1672 Salem MA 4 Joseph 4 Boyce b: Oct 29, 1699 Salem MA [Quakers jail] 5 Joseph 5 Boyce b: 1743 prob Salem to Dutchess Co NY 6 Martin Boyce b: 1764 Providence RI 6 Lydia Boyce b: 1766 Providence RI 6 Mary Boyce b: 1768 Providence RI 6 John Boyce b: 1770 Providence RI 6 Dr.Joseph Boyce- DuBois b: Aug 1, 1774 Cumberland RI 7 Dr.Earl Cushman DuBois b: Oct 6, 1799 Braintree, VT. 7 Eliza DuBois 7 Alexander? DuBois 6 Jonathan Boyce-Duboyce b: Nov 19, 1776 Cumberland RI 7 Martin Duboyce b: Mar 8, 1801 Gloucester, R.I. 7 Lydia Duboyce b: Dec 6, 1803 West Bolton, Quebec 6 William Boyce-Duboyce b: 1778 Cumberland RI 7 Son DuBois 6 Thankful Boyce-DuBois b: Jul 10, 1780 prob Cumberland RI 6 Elisha Boyce b: Nov 27, 1782 Gloucester RI 6 Jabez Boyce b: 1784 Gloucester RI 6 Infant Boyce b: 1786 6 James Manning Boyce b: Feb 7, 1788 Gloucester RI 6 Sarah Boyce b: Abt. 1789 Gloucester RI 5 Benjamin Boyce b: 1730 date? Salem, Essex, Mass 3 Jonathon Boyce b: 1673 3 David Boyce b: 1675 3 Ester Boyce b: 1680 2 Benjamin Boyce b: May 16, 1647 bapt- prob Salem MA Boyce DuBois Duboyce Barbados Quakers Salem Hope some of you will recognize any of these things. Would appreciate any suggestions and love to find cousins Thank You for your time. Rachel Rrachelros@aol.com "Check out my pages to see if we're related- my files have 4200 names plus links" "New England Genes" -- http://www.angelfire.com/ny/newenglandgenes/index.html

    03/23/2000 01:44:28
    1. Re: DU BOIS from BOYCE
    2. Elizabeth Russo
    3. It is good to hear from another DUBOIS on this DUBOSE list... But we need more info to have any clue about your line. How about some names, dates and places? Elizabeth DuBois Russo, Always looking for ancestors of JOHN DUBOIS who was in Carolina by 1696 RRachelros@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > I'm new to this list and would like to know if any cousins or experts can > recognize my line. Would love to here from any of you.

    03/22/2000 03:54:58
    1. Re: DU BOIS from BOYCE
    2. Hi, I'm new to this list and would like to know if any cousins or experts can recognize my line. Would love to here from any of you.

    03/22/2000 10:17:01
    1. Re: Bishop Edwin DuBose Mouzon
    2. Elizabeth Russo
    3. THe Methodist Episcopal church is no relation to what we think of as the Episcopal church. Rather, "Episcopal" denotes the fact that the Methodist Church is "episcopalian" in its organization--with bishops and conferences, etc. My local associate pastor likes to say that Methodists are more "episcopalian" than the Episcopalians. I believe that some examples are that local churches are not owned locally, but are owned by the conferences; bishops assign the ministers rather than local churches hiring them (although the local churches do a have a say); , etc. Here is a web page setting forth the organizational structure of the current United Methodist Church: http://www.umc.org/abouttheumc/organization/ Now, tracing how Methodism evolved from the Wesley brothers' Holy Club to various denominations and names such as the Methodist Church; the Methodist Episcopal Church; the Methodist Episcopal Church, South; the African MEthodist Episcopal Church; the Methodist Episcopal Church, Zion; and so forth, takes a more in-depth reading of its history. If you lump all Baptists of every stripe together, they are the largest U.S. Protestant denomination, with Methodist second. If you separate out the various Baptist denominations and the various Methodist denominations, then the denomination known as the "United Methodist Church" is the largest U.S. Protestant denomination. But that statement is disputed by those who say you cannot separate out,say, the Baptists from the Southern Baptists, and the Bible Baptists, etc. Much of the splits in the Methodist church came about over slaveholding. John Wesley was opposed to slaveholding, and the church for the most part--even in the South--was also opposed. But a thorny problem arose. A Bishop in Georgia married a woman who inherited slaves. Under Georgia law, they could not free the slaves. They were stuck holding the slaves unless they moved from Georgia. But he was the Georgia Bishop and wished to remain there. I think it was around 1844 that the church split over the issue of whether the bishop had to be removed because of his wife's inherited slaves. It was a northern bishop who actually led the move in favor of upholding the Georgia Bishop's right to remain a bishop--on the grounds of some parliamentary and MEthodist constitutional procedure, and not on the moral grounds of slaveholding itself. I of course find MEthodist history fascinating and could go on and on, but as Mary notes, I formed the Methodist-L list and the MEthodist Genealogical Society to have a larger forum for these issues and others affecting our Methodist ancestors. For more on the history of Methodism, I highly recommend going to this web page: http://www.drew.edu/books/200Years/200UM/homepage.htm Elizabeth DuBois Russo Maryd0318@aol.com wrote: > > Elizabeth....I also think someone inquired about the difference between > Methodist Episcopal and Methodist....thought maybe you might know?????

    03/16/2000 08:17:45
    1. Re: Bishop Edwin DuBose Mouzon
    2. Elizabeth Russo
    3. Yes, I've heard of Bishop DuBose. Unfortunately I fried my database last month, and have lost all my DuBose info. I don't collect it for my FTM program (which I do only for my DuBois ancestors), so I hadn't saved it elsewhere. References to Bishop DuBose can probably be found by doing a search of Rootsweb's archives for either this list or the SCROOTS list. I think the discussion on the gentleman took place in late 1998 or early 1999. Elizabeth DuBois Russo Bebenjohn@aol.com wrote: > > Elizabeth, > > Someone was interested in Bishop Mouzon's ancestry. I think I started the > Methodist question with inquirey into ancestry of a Bishop DuBose (surname > actually DuBose) whose figure is in stained glass at the foot of panel of > Christ in the largest Methodist Church in NC...Winston Salem. It is > Centenary Methodist Church. Have you heard of him? > > DuBose is a surname in my son in law's line (his grandmother) but I recently > saw perhaps at Rootweb that you and I may have a connection in eastern NC, I > think it was. Can't recall the line...getting old!! > > Bebe Fox > Winston Salem, NC

    03/15/2000 08:17:31