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    1. [DOWRICK] Thomas Dowrick and Ann Lugg
    2. Lari C
    3. Hello, I've just run across your site and my heart went out for John Dowrick looking for his ancestors, it certainly can be frustrating. I've searched my family up to Thomas Dowrick died 1814 married 3 Sep 1787 in Falmouth to Ann Lugg. I did also notice another Thomas Dowrick who died in 1814 who was married to Ann Collett and whose children stop abruptly when Ann (Collett) was only 30 years old. Thomas and Ann Lugg's children started at that point. I wonder if these are the same Thomas'. There are a couple of other mild correlations. They both have Sarahs in their decendancy and more compelling and what brought my attention to them is the given name of Amos which I think might have been introduced through Ann Lugg as there are no other Amos Dowricks before their union. If Ann Lugg was the second wife of Thomas Dowrick 1745-1814, then she would have raised the children of his first marriage and the youngest of that marriage, Susanna would have been 10 when Thomas and Ann Lugg had a son and named him Amos. When Susanna grew up and married John Gay she named one of her sons Amos. It seems to fit but I know there's no real proof. If it came to light that Ann Collet died around 1780, then I would really lean toward my theory. I would be grateful for any information you might offer. Yours truly, Lari Cunningham Later last night after writting this text, I ran across a site dedicated to Colletts in Cornwall. It seemed very complete and shows Ann Collett marrying Thomas Dowrick in Pilleigh and shortly after, settling in Veryan. There was no mention of her burial. I also ran across a death list for Dowricks (this may be your site, I was getting a little swirled around by that hour) and found an Ann Dowrick d. 19 Apr 1787, which would be 4 months before the marriage of Thomas Dowrick and Ann Lugg. I was quite excited to see this but it notes that this Ann was a widow? How absolute is the 'widow' , how could I check that further? Or perhaps I should just let this line of thought go on that note. -Lari Increase mileage 7% - 19% and Decrease emissions 30% or more! Tested and proven so, go green and save money too! http://www.forceforearth.ca

    09/28/2010 01:17:00
    1. Re: [DOWRICK] Thomas Dowrick and Ann Lugg
    2. Peter Brooks
    3. Hi Lari, welcome to the list. (Fellow listers, Lari emailed the first part of the below to me and at my suggestion has subscribed to the list). Anyone connected to or familiar with these branches? I've pulled my notes out but it is an awful long time since I've looked at them :-) Cheers Peter On 28 Sep 2010 at 19:17, Lari C wrote: Hello, I've just run across your site and my heart went out for John Dowrick looking for his ancestors, it certainly can be frustrating. I've searched my family up to Thomas Dowrick died 1814 married 3 Sep 1787 in Falmouth to Ann Lugg. I did also notice another Thomas Dowrick who died in 1814 who was married to Ann Collett and whose children stop abruptly when Ann (Collett) was only 30 years old. Thomas and Ann Lugg's children started at that point. I wonder if these are the same Thomas'. There are a couple of other mild correlations. They both have Sarahs in their decendancy and more compelling and what brought my attention to them is the given name of Amos which I think might have been introduced through Ann Lugg as there are no other Amos Dowricks before their union. If Ann Lugg was the second wife of Thomas Dowrick 1745-1814, then she would have raised the children of his first marriage and the youngest of that marriage, Susanna would have been 10 when Thomas and Ann Lugg had a son and named him Amos. When Susanna grew up and married John Gay she named one of her sons Amos. It seems to fit but I know there's no real proof. If it came to light that Ann Collet died around 1780, then I would really lean toward my theory. I would be grateful for any information you might offer. Yours truly, Lari Cunningham Later last night after writting this text, I ran across a site dedicated to Colletts in Cornwall. It seemed very complete and shows Ann Collett marrying Thomas Dowrick in Pilleigh and shortly after, settling in Veryan. There was no mention of her burial. I also ran across a death list for Dowricks (this may be your site, I was getting a little swirled around by that hour) and found an Ann Dowrick d. 19 Apr 1787, which would be 4 months before the marriage of Thomas Dowrick and Ann Lugg. I was quite excited to see this but it notes that this Ann was a widow? How absolute is the 'widow' , how could I check that further? Or perhaps I should just let this line of thought go on that note. -Lari ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DOWRICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/29/2010 05:38:09
    1. Re: [DOWRICK] Thomas Dowrick and Ann Lugg
    2. Peter Brooks
    3. Hello again Lari. (There are other people on this list, honest!) Well, I've had a look through the assorted jumble of papers that constitute my records. A couple of things that may be of interest to you. A tree sent to me by Carol Hughes (a researcher from Ruan) has Anne (nee Collett) wife of Thomas DOWRICK as dying 2 Sep 1826 at Veryan. As this is a specific death date I think it will be taken from a gravestone (whether it is the correct Anne or not is another matter). She has this Thomas bpt 14 Apr 1746 at Ruan, d. 20 Sep 1814 at Veryan, them married at Philleigh 12 Feb 1771 and children listed as Richard Collett, William, Nancy, Sarah, Thomas, Susanna. A parish census of Veryan was taken in 1821 and (unusually) this survives. It recorded a very basic level of detail about the head of each household and numbers of children. David James transcribed and published this census in 1995, expanded with additions from his own research. I have a photocopy of the 'D' page and his entry for an Ann DOWRICK is as follows: DOWRICK, Ann. Widow. Portloe. (p.9) F. 70+. Formerly Ann LUG who m. Thomas DOWRICK, mariner, at Falmouth 1787. Ann d. 1826 aged 78 (M.I. A32) Sons: Amos, Wm., Thos., Richard Dau: Mary, Biddy. (From WIll of Thos.1814) So this looks like two different interpretations. Most interesting is the mention of a will for Thomas... The only will for a Thomas DOWRICK for 1814 that I know of is for Thomas DOWRICK, butcher. Unfortunately I don't have a copy but I would say that it would be well worth you obtaining one as it may contain further clues - if he had an extended family then you would think any surviving members might get a mention. By the way there is only one Veryan gravestone with a Thomas DOWRICK (died 20 Sep 1814 aged 69) and wife Ann (died 2 Sep 1826 aged 78). All the above illustrates the difficulties in positively identifying couples with common names like Thomas and Ann(e) in parish records. I presume you have gone backwards by the proper route of civil records (birth, marriage, death) followed by census? Who are you related to with regard to the children? Regards Peter On 28 Sep 2010 at 19:17, Lari C wrote: Hello, I've just run across your site and my heart went out for John Dowrick looking for his ancestors, it certainly can be frustrating. I've searched my family up to Thomas Dowrick died 1814 married 3 Sep 1787 in Falmouth to Ann Lugg. I did also notice another Thomas Dowrick who died in 1814 who was married to Ann Collett and whose children stop abruptly when Ann (Collett) was only 30 years old. Thomas and Ann Lugg's children started at that point. I wonder if these are the same Thomas'. There are a couple of other mild correlations. They both have Sarahs in their decendancy and more compelling and what brought my attention to them is the given name of Amos which I think might have been introduced through Ann Lugg as there are no other Amos Dowricks before their union. If Ann Lugg was the second wife of Thomas Dowrick 1745-1814, then she would have raised the children of his first marriage and the youngest of that marriage, Susanna would have been 10 when Thomas and Ann Lugg had a son and named him Amos. When Susanna grew up and married John Gay she named one of her sons Amos. It seems to fit but I know there's no real proof. If it came to light that Ann Collet died around 1780, then I would really lean toward my theory. I would be grateful for any information you might offer. Yours truly, Lari Cunningham Later last night after writting this text, I ran across a site dedicated to Colletts in Cornwall. It seemed very complete and shows Ann Collett marrying Thomas Dowrick in Pilleigh and shortly after, settling in Veryan. There was no mention of her burial. I also ran across a death list for Dowricks (this may be your site, I was getting a little swirled around by that hour) and found an Ann Dowrick d. 19 Apr 1787, which would be 4 months before the marriage of Thomas Dowrick and Ann Lugg. I was quite excited to see this but it notes that this Ann was a widow? How absolute is the 'widow' , how could I check that further? Or perhaps I should just let this line of thought go on that note. -Lari

    09/30/2010 04:02:03