Here's the address for a War of 1812 database that is free in January: http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/familytree/records/ As an example, there are 158 Downings, 186 Hardings, 229 Lucases. It will only display the first 100 hits so unless you have an unusual name [or the first name is early in the alphabet] you are probably going to need a first name. All of the vets I am aware of were there -- which is pretty remarkable in my experience. Generally I'm lucky to find one or two. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Coordinator, Logan County, ILGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Harding mailing list> HARDING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas