Hello Robb, Yes, the lady that told me about Mary and Elizabeth (twins) was the daughter-in-law of Mary's direct lineage. Her Mother-in-law was researching this line. When she found out Mary had those children and no husband, she called her Irish Shanty Mary and destroyed all her research. All I got for information was what this lady remembered reading about in her Mother-in-laws research before it was destroyed. She said they were in Va. and somewhere in Ind. but couldn't remember the county. Wherever Elizabeth and James McClelland lived, Mary went too. She said Mary lived in a house on the back of their farm or property. She made no mention of S. Carolina. There are McClellands in Montgomery Co., KY. That is the county that Dennis and James Downing, Dennis's father came from to Henry Co., Ind. early 1800's and Dennis's Mother-in-law was a McClelland that married a McCormick. Also my William Downing b. around 1800 was living in Henry Co., Ind. in the same twp. as Dennis and James with his wife Nancy McClelland. There was an Alexander McClelland living in Montgomery Co., KY. that would have been the age to be Nancy's Father. I believe that Abraham McClelland from Scott Co., KY was the father of Alexander McClelland of Montgomery Co. KY. I will keep you informed if I find more of this puzzle. Ruby ---------- > From: Robb Russon <robborob@mtwest.net> > To: DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DOWNING-L] Elizabeth Downing > Date: Sunday, September 13, 1998 3:14 PM > > Hello Ruby, > Thanks for your response to my query re. Eliz. DOWNING, Wash. Ind. It > seems, from what you write, that Mary had four illegitimate children!?? Is > this correct? It also looks like the DOWNINGs and MCCLELLANDs had a lot to > do with each other. I know there were a bunch of DOWNINGs in KY but > Elizabeth gives her place of birth as VA in the 1850 Wash. Co. IN census. > William MCCLELLAND is listed therein as coming from S. Carolina. There is > a pocket of MCCLELLANDs in York Co. S. Carolina and a James MCCLELLAND is > shown in the index of both the 1800 and 1810 census as living there. The > KY-IN connection is obvious but I am trying to get a pattern from VA-S. > Carolina to IN and fit Elizabeth an0d William into it Please let me know > about this unmarried Mary thing....:-) > Robb Russon > > At 07:52 PM 9/12/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Yes Sue I saw it, thanks. > >To Robb Russon. > >I believe that Elizabeth Downing from Washington Co., Ind. was the daughter > >of Mary Downing. Mary was the twin sister of Elizabeth Downing b. 1783 in > >Va. or Ireland. I was told by a lady that was descended from Mary that she > >was not married and always lived on the same farm with her sister and James > >McClelland. Her children I know of were: Preston, James Madison, Joseph > >and Elizabeth. I have been trying to find out who Elizabeth and James > >McClelland's children were and who Mary and Elizabeth's parents were. My > >ancestor, William Downing b. 1800-04 KY married Nancy McClelland and they > >lived at one time in Henry Co., Ind. I am trying to find out who her > >parents were. > >In Washington Co., Ind. land grants is listed the following McClellands. > >James, purchased land in 1838. Charles, purchased in 1838. William, > >purchased in 1839. John J. purchased in 1839 and Benjamine, purchased in > >1845 and 52. > >Some of Mary's family live in Guthrie Center, Iowa and some of Joseph > >Downings (b. 1748 and m. to Jemima Woodward) family live at Casey, Iowa, > >Guthrie Co. Letha Moss, a descendent of Mary from Guthrie Center told me > >that they were distant cousins of the Casey, Iowa Downings. > >Ruby Waugh, from Guthrie Co., Iowa > > > > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > >Space for this list is provided by Rootsweb.com, working to keep online > genealogy free for everyone. > > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > What Downing resources do you own? Tell us.