Ray, I your message of 2/2/99 you mentioned 15 Downings! Would one of these be; James Downing b. 1765 in Va. He had 3 known sons; James,Francis,&Dennis, all b. between 1800 & 1804 in Montgomery Co. KY. His father; also James b.1740 in NY. I'm at a dead end with this family,any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Darrell