Actually all of the lists I belong to personally are closed. The reason I don't join lists like medieval genealogy [a major interest of mine] is because of the garbage in them, a problem with open lists. Lists like that, by the way, can be searched using a program like Deja Vu [which you may have in your internet software somewhere] periodically to find any good things that may have appeared so you don't have to miss them. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com Richard III Society mailing list