Jim, Not that warm, doubt if we got our of the sixties. Thank you for responding to my post. I have met Marlin and Geraldine. They are from Fruitland. As a matter of fact, when they first learned I was researching Downing they came all the way to my house to meet me, and show me a Downing book. (The one by Greggath). they were nice people, and encouraged me to keep digging. So far, I can't see that we are related either, unless, as you say, it is way back in England somewhere. I know they belong to Emanuel Downing's line, so you must too. I hope we eventually will link up with him; I think he was a great statesman. Sue Hodnett