This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mlcole50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/978.4.2.1.3.2.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to the 1830 Clark Co, Ohio Census, John Downing was b. 1751-60. The first record found for John was his marriage to Ruth Mansell in 1786 in Frederick Co, Maryland. Finding the names of the witnesses assoociated with John Downing in the Frederick Maryland Evangelical Lutheran Church marriage records has changed the direction of the research. The names Porter, Brown & Mansell are from Anne Arundel Co, MD. John's connection with this group indicates that he is not native to Frederick Co. but merely passing through. We can tell from the records that John lived in Frederick Co. 1786-1788. The related couples - John Downing & Ruth Mansell; Joshua Brown and Margaret Mansell (Ruth's sister); and Samuel Porter & Rosy Perkins moved to Fayette Co, KY near Lexington aboutt 1794 where they appear on the 1800 Census. Another sister, Elizabeth Mansell moved to Lexington after her husband Caleb Frost died in 1808. Frederick Maryland Evangelical Lutheran Church John Downing m. Ruth Mansell 5 March 1786 Witness: Beggy and Nancy Burkey, Babby(?) Corner, Richard Porter. Joshua Brown m. Margaret Mansell 19 Apr 1787 >From Baltimore. Witness: Betsey Mansell, Caleb & Ruthi Frost. Samuel Porter m. Rosy Perkins 28 Feb 1788 Witness: William Perkins, Richard Porter, Hannah Scheible, John Dunnin. John Downing and family moved to Butler Co, Ohio by 1807. Joshua Brown and wife Margaret stayed at Lexington and Samuel Porter and wife Rosa eventually moved to Vernilion Co, Illinois. Sept 11, 1819, John Downing of Butler County received Land Patent [Vol 46, p156] from the Cincinnati Land Office, State of Ohio for the N/W quarter of Section 27, in Township 4 of Range 10 (between the Miami Rivers) located in Clark Co, Ohio. He is listed on the 1820 Ohio Census, Clark Co, Green Twp, living next to his son Israel. Again in 1830, he is listed on the Census in Clark Co, German Twp, next to his son Israel. His age is given as 70-80. This is the last known record for John Downing. July 10, 1832, Israel Downing of Clark County received Land Patent Certificate #3189 for the East half of the S/E quarter of Section 26 in Township 2 of Range 8 East in the District of Lands subject to sale by the Cincinnati Land Office containing 80 acres and 76th hundreds of an acre. Signed by Andrew Jackson, President. The land was located in Logan Co, Ohio. Israel is listed on the 1840 Ohio Census - Logan Co, Bloomfield Twp. Bazil Downing is listed on the 1840 Census - Logan Co, Jefferson Twp. Although there has been much speculation that Israel and Bazil were brothers because they both lived in Logan County, I see nothing to support that conclusion. Mary Lou Cole Additional Data: Parents of Ruth, Elizabeth & Margaret Mansell Sameul Mansell Birth: 4 Dec 1715 in All Hallows Parish, Anne Arundel Co, Maryland Death: 6 Jun 1779 in Anne Arundel Co, MD Married: 1748 Susannah Gassaway Birth: 1725 in All Hallows Parish, Anne Arundel Co, Maryland Death: 1784 in Anne Arundel Co, MD Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.