This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mlcole50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/978.4.2.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Debbie, I found the info at familysearch.org. Also the birth date of 23 Dec 1786 was given for Israel. Sources: "Maryland, Marriages, 1666-1970" and "Maryland, Births and Christenings, 1650-1995." I did not see any further christening records, perhaps they moved to Virginia after Israel was born. Ruth Mansell is sometimes recorded as Ruth Mansfield. Good Luck, Mary Lou Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.