I'm excited to see how this all comes out. I can't participate, but hope you all keep us informed that cannot participate. Roberta Downing

OK. I am ready to join up. I lost the instructions,though. Thanks,Clyde----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda Roberts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:08 AM Subject: [DOWNING] DOWNING DNA PROJECT > OK, if there are six male volunteers, I will set up the project and act as the administrator. As soon as I get all the information from the DNA site which I sent previously, I'll let you all know. It is $99 for a male to be tested and those males have to be direct descendants of Downing males. So far, the following people have volunteered: > > Clyde Downing > Daniel Downing > Maria's Uncle (name unknown) > Anthony Downing > Ray Downing > > Would the afore mentioned gentlemen please confirm that you are on board with this? If there is one more male willing to participate, let me know and I'll proceed. Remember that the more participants there are, the greater the chances for finding matches. > > Lynda Roberts > Virginia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:01 PM > Subject: DNA > > > Lynda- > > Why don't you be the project administrator?? I think I have two male Downings that would do it and we just need four more. If you do it and we get three from the Downing list then we can get this thing going. > > Maria > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] >

I think the idea is to see if a persons family like mine which I have back to ca. 1590 in Devon is related to some one elses who may be from a differant part of England. Clyde ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [DOWNING] DNA > In a message dated 2/23/2004 5:36:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > to make this meaningful, don't you need DNA from Downing ancestors? > > otherwise all you will prove is that you have a bunch of "cousins " out > > there. i think the idea should be to tie some current Downings back to > > older lines???? > > joe > > > > From what very little I know or understand about the workings of a DNA > project, I would say that you are essentially correct; however...there are many of > us who cannot connect our branch of Downings with an earlier branch. > > So....if I would be able to connect my known branch with another who has > documentation for their line, I at least would be able to find out that I "belong" > to "someone" between their oldest-known ancestor and mine. > > Then, at some point in the future, maybe one of us would be able to obtain > some type of DNA from a very old ancestor, which can be compared to more recent > descendants. Maybe someone has an heirloom lock of hair or something else > with DNA like an old envelope which may have been licked by someone from 10 > generations ago. (or whatever else which can be used for DNA analysis) > > Anyway, that is my thoughts...have no idea if I am correct about them, but > that is what makes sense to me. Science might tell me I am wrong, but that is > okay. Just some thoughts to ponder.......... > > Wee > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] >

Thank you for keeping us informed - I think that I too would like to receive instructions re the project and a DNA testing kit. My name is Gary Jordan [email protected] Thank you, G ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynda Roberts To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [DOWNING] Downing DNA Leonora, just send me their names and email addresses and I will send each one of them instructions on how to join the project and order their DNA testing kits. Lynda Roberts Downing DNA Project Group Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: Leonora Olsen <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 7:30 PM Subject: [DOWNING] Downing DNA > I have just discussed the idea with my two brothers and father as to the interest in participating in the project. I cannot foresee any problems in their decision so I too would like to be informed of any information involving this project. It seems that there is some brickwalls in this line and hopefully it can help clarify the questions since I do not see any connections with the Downings that have been documented and are discussed. In other words, right now I need all the help I can get! > > Thank You > Leonora Olsen > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected]

In a message dated 2/23/2004 5:36:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > to make this meaningful, don't you need DNA from Downing ancestors? > otherwise all you will prove is that you have a bunch of "cousins " out > there. i think the idea should be to tie some current Downings back to > older lines???? > joe > From what very little I know or understand about the workings of a DNA project, I would say that you are essentially correct; however...there are many of us who cannot connect our branch of Downings with an earlier branch. So....if I would be able to connect my known branch with another who has documentation for their line, I at least would be able to find out that I "belong" to "someone" between their oldest-known ancestor and mine. Then, at some point in the future, maybe one of us would be able to obtain some type of DNA from a very old ancestor, which can be compared to more recent descendants. Maybe someone has an heirloom lock of hair or something else with DNA like an old envelope which may have been licked by someone from 10 generations ago. (or whatever else which can be used for DNA analysis) Anyway, that is my thoughts...have no idea if I am correct about them, but that is what makes sense to me. Science might tell me I am wrong, but that is okay. Just some thoughts to ponder.......... Wee

Leonora, just send me their names and email addresses and I will send each one of them instructions on how to join the project and order their DNA testing kits. Lynda Roberts Downing DNA Project Group Administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: Leonora Olsen <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 7:30 PM Subject: [DOWNING] Downing DNA > I have just discussed the idea with my two brothers and father as to the interest in participating in the project. I cannot foresee any problems in their decision so I too would like to be informed of any information involving this project. It seems that there is some brickwalls in this line and hopefully it can help clarify the questions since I do not see any connections with the Downings that have been documented and are discussed. In other words, right now I need all the help I can get! > > Thank You > Leonora Olsen > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] >

I have just discussed the idea with my two brothers and father as to the interest in participating in the project. I cannot foresee any problems in their decision so I too would like to be informed of any information involving this project. It seems that there is some brickwalls in this line and hopefully it can help clarify the questions since I do not see any connections with the Downings that have been documented and are discussed. In other words, right now I need all the help I can get! Thank You Leonora Olsen

Hi, my name is Myrna. I haven't been doing genealogy very long at all, but I am looking for my Downing ancestors. My Grandmother on my Mother's side was a Downing. This is what I have: Jesse Brown Downing b. abt. 1848 in Tex. married Mary Jane Campbell ? Mary Jane Campbell b. abt. 1853 in Tex. Mary Jane's Father was Nathaniel Campbell, Mother, Milley Coley. Jesse and Mary Jane had 9 children. James W. Downing b. 1875 (my g. mother) Jency Lane Downing b. 15 May 1877, Coryell, TX. d. 24 Dec. 1957 in Dalhart, TX. William J. Downing b. 1879 Edyor Downing b. 1881 Darg Downing b. 1883 Coetta Ella Downing b. 29 March 1885 Gatesville, TX. d. 09 Jan. 1968 Marlow, OK. Jake Downing b. 1887 Mary Downing b. 1890 married Jesse Milton Titsworth, Coleman Co. TX. Miranda Myrtle Downing b. 23 June 1892 TX. d. 05 Aug. 1974, Kermit TX. married Jesse Newton Titsworth, 04 March 1909 Coleman, TX. Does anyone have an inkling as to what Downing Family I belong to? If you have an ideas or instruction on how I may find out, anything would be appreciated.

to make this meaningful, don't you need DNA from Downing ancestors? otherwise all you will prove is that you have a bunch of "cousins " out there. i think the idea should be to tie some current Downings back to older lines???? joe [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: Lynda Roberts <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 02/23/2004 8:23:03 PM > Subject: Re: [DOWNING] DNA > > Earlene, I have begun the project, but only males directly related to males > can participate. However, I can keep you updated on any progress we make if > you like. I come from Downings too, but I don't have any current male > Downings in my family either. > > Lynda Roberts > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: E. K. Frederick <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 5:13 PM > Subject: [DOWNING] DNA > > > > I would be interested, but I don't come from a direct female or male line. > > > > F F F M F M > > > > Earlene > > > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject > to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a > message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected]

Earlene, I have begun the project, but only males directly related to males can participate. However, I can keep you updated on any progress we make if you like. I come from Downings too, but I don't have any current male Downings in my family either. Lynda Roberts ----- Original Message ----- From: E. K. Frederick <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 5:13 PM Subject: [DOWNING] DNA > I would be interested, but I don't come from a direct female or male line. > > F F F M F M > > Earlene > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] >

can anyone help on this? [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Norman To: [email protected] Sent: 02/22/2004 1:37:35 PM Subject: RE: Downing decendents Joe, Rosena Downing the daughter of John Downing is my Gr. Gr. Grandmother. I need to prove her relationship to her parents John Downing and Mary Boiler and Johns to his parents Timothy Downing and Sarah Chenoweth. I wondered what your sources are. I will give you Rosena's marriages and her children. Her 1st husband Samuel Day: b. 5 Mar 1825, m. 10 Feb 1848, d. 10 Feb 1850. From the Family Bible of his parents Ezekial P. Day and Margaret Barr Day. Children: Nancy Jane ( my Gr. Grandmother) b.16 May 1849, m. 19 Sep. 19 Sep 1867, d. Oct 1935. Margaret G : b. 16 Dec 1850. Rosena m. Philip Reed Bunn 21 Sept 1852, he was b. 13 Jul 1813, d. 3 Apr 1893. Children: Mary Geneva b.11 Oct 1856, Reed b. 25 Jun 1858, Scott b. 16 Apr 1861, Iley b. 4 Nov 1863, Byron b.1 Nov 1866. Nancy >From: "joe downing" >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: "Nancy Norman" >Subject: RE: Downing decendents >Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:26:38 -0500 > >hi, can you be more specific on names, dates and places, thanks, joe > > >[email protected] > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Nancy Norman >To: [email protected] >Sent: 02/19/2004 9:29:55 PM >Subject: Downing decendents > > >Joe, >My name is Nancy Norman and Timothy, John and Rosena are my ancestors. I would like to know the sources for your information. I have been doing Gen. for about 15 yrs and can trace Rosena's marriage to Samuel Day but have not gone further back. Hoping to hear from you. >Nancy Norman > > > > > > > >Find and compare great deals on Broadband access at the MSN High-Speed Marketplace. Get fast, reliable access with MSN 9 Dial-up. Click here for Special Offer!

Just a little input re the DNA project. I see that many family groups are doing this and it has been going on for some time. My cousin's husband participated in the HULL DNA project, and he found that he descends from a progenitor in England in the 1500s. Of course, it leaves those of us out who were not born Downing and are not male, but I think it will help a lot of searchers to get back as far as possible. Even though I can't participate, I would be very interested in the results! Marlene

No problem then. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County, IL, Coordinator, ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al -----Original Message----- From: Lynda Roberts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DOWNING] DOWNING DNA PROJECT Actually, it won't be conducted on this list. The project will have its own website. All that was happening here was an exercise to see who was interested. Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheryl Rothwell <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [DOWNING] DOWNING DNA PROJECT > Ok, now that you are talking money you are going to have to set up > your own > email list [just make an email group in your email program] and get it > off this Rootsweb list. If anyone is interested in this Downing DNA > Project contact Lynda Roberts direct at [email protected] > > You can keep the list informed of how it is going, periodically ask if > someone wants to join, but you can't do the business of the project > here. > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected] > Logan County, IL, Coordinator, ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected]

Actually, it won't be conducted on this list. The project will have its own website. All that was happening here was an exercise to see who was interested. Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheryl Rothwell <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: RE: [DOWNING] DOWNING DNA PROJECT > Ok, now that you are talking money you are going to have to set up your own > email list [just make an email group in your email program] and get it off > this Rootsweb list. If anyone is interested in this Downing DNA Project > contact Lynda Roberts direct at [email protected] > > You can keep the list informed of how it is going, periodically ask if > someone wants to join, but you can't do the business of the project here. > > Cheryl Rothwell > [email protected] > Logan County, IL, Coordinator, ILGenWeb > www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] >

Ok, now that you are talking money you are going to have to set up your own email list [just make an email group in your email program] and get it off this Rootsweb list. If anyone is interested in this Downing DNA Project contact Lynda Roberts direct at [email protected] You can keep the list informed of how it is going, periodically ask if someone wants to join, but you can't do the business of the project here. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County, IL, Coordinator, ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas et al

OK, if there are six male volunteers, I will set up the project and act as the administrator. As soon as I get all the information from the DNA site which I sent previously, I'll let you all know. It is $99 for a male to be tested and those males have to be direct descendants of Downing males. So far, the following people have volunteered: Clyde Downing Daniel Downing Maria's Uncle (name unknown) Anthony Downing Ray Downing Would the afore mentioned gentlemen please confirm that you are on board with this? If there is one more male willing to participate, let me know and I'll proceed. Remember that the more participants there are, the greater the chances for finding matches. Lynda Roberts Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:01 PM Subject: DNA Lynda- Why don't you be the project administrator?? I think I have two male Downings that would do it and we just need four more. If you do it and we get three from the Downing list then we can get this thing going. Maria

I am agreeablr to take part in the tests for $99.00. Clyde W. Downing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda Roberts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:08 AM Subject: [DOWNING] DOWNING DNA PROJECT > OK, if there are six male volunteers, I will set up the project and act as the administrator. As soon as I get all the information from the DNA site which I sent previously, I'll let you all know. It is $99 for a male to be tested and those males have to be direct descendants of Downing males. So far, the following people have volunteered: > > Clyde Downing > Daniel Downing > Maria's Uncle (name unknown) > Anthony Downing > Ray Downing > > Would the afore mentioned gentlemen please confirm that you are on board with this? If there is one more male willing to participate, let me know and I'll proceed. Remember that the more participants there are, the greater the chances for finding matches. > > Lynda Roberts > Virginia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:01 PM > Subject: DNA > > > Lynda- > > Why don't you be the project administrator?? I think I have two male Downings that would do it and we just need four more. If you do it and we get three from the Downing list then we can get this thing going. > > Maria > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] >

Sure, I can and will give a tissue sample for testing. With whom and where do we begin, what is the cost etc?? Who is in charge of this new and exciting research??? Daniel D. Downing 318 Lakeshore Drive Battle Creek MI 49015-3132 (269)965-7932

Yes, that is correct. Those are the only people who can be tested for purposes of a family DNA project. Lynda Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: Sheryl W <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [DOWNING] Re: Downing DNA > Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought for the DNA testing to be accurate > you had to be a male and directly descended via males? > > Thanks, > Sheryl > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] >

Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought for the DNA testing to be accurate you had to be a male and directly descended via males? Thanks, Sheryl