Thanks Clyde; I'll see if I can get hold of the books. I have not yet tried. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Clyde Downing To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings These DOWNINGS are not mine. I just saw the info and thought other DOWNINGS might be interested. I did not really go through yhem. If you can't find the books, I can make copies for $10.00,which I will donate to the American Cancer Society. Clyde ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Hodnett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings > Clyde, > I have a William Downing who died in Mercer County, KY, brother to our Francis Downing born 1726/36 Yorkshire. I have long wondered if those VA Downings were ancestors of our Francis and William, because in 1624 another Francis Downing sailed from England to VA, and is supposed to be our ancestor. We have been unable to trace any of his family, yet he is said to have had a family and his descendents settled in that northern neck of VA. Interesting, that. Wish we had more to go on. Are there any Francis' mentioned in those early generations of William's? > Sue Hodnett > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Clyde Downing > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 1:45 PM > Subject: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings > > > While researching at the Auburn,Washington Public Library today I happened > upon a 5 or 6 volume on Virginia Genealogies. I looked at Vol. 2,which had > quite a lot of info on the DOWNINGS in Northumberland County,Va. from > WILLIAM (1) and covered several generations. If you are interested mail me > direct. Some of his descendants moved to mercer County,Ky. Clyde > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected]

Ray, I wish I had your problem! I think. As far as I can tell now, my Downings started in Yorkshire. I think I have found the father of our Francis Downing, but I have no documentation really for that find. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [DOWNING] Downing Migrations I guess it comes under "Murphy's Law". I read about all these Downing lines that are being researched with you folks coming up on brick walls and UFOs....and I sigh for you and sympathize with your frustration. The funny thing -- the Murphy's Law corrolary -- comes due to my line, that of Thomas Downing, after whom Downingtown, PA, is named. Amazingly, this line has been thoroughly documented in Futhey & Cope; "Genealogy of the Palmer-Trimble Families", "Genealogy of the Smedley Family"; and even recently in Jane Davidson's fine work, "History of Downingtown". The line can be traced back to Bradninch, Devonshire, England, in 1530. But no one else on this board is connected to the line. Sigh. I can't share all the wonderful documentation I have. Murphy's Law #2057: "If you know who your ancestors are, no one else is related to you." Ray Downing, Las Vegas, NV ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected]

In a message dated 3/10/04 5:39:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Ray you at least have the > documentation. > Yeah.....all dressed up and no where to go..........LOL!

Ray., You made me laugh at least and if your statement were true no one will find you or your documentation and I know that is not going to happen. Someone because someone will find you under bush and want your documentation. lol I wish I connected to someone. And someone could find my Nancy Downing married to a Hite. My documentation is hiding with Ray's. Only problem is I only have names no documentation on the Downing line at all. Ray you at least have the documentation. joy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [DOWNING] Downing Migrations > I guess it comes under "Murphy's Law". I read about all these Downing > lines that are being researched with you folks coming up on brick walls and > UFOs....and I sigh for you and sympathize with your frustration. > The funny thing -- the Murphy's Law corrolary -- comes due to my line, > that of Thomas Downing, after whom Downingtown, PA, is named. Amazingly, this > line has been thoroughly documented in Futhey & Cope; "Genealogy of the > Palmer-Trimble Families", "Genealogy of the Smedley Family"; and even recently in > Jane Davidson's fine work, "History of Downingtown". The line can be traced > back to Bradninch, Devonshire, England, in 1530. > But no one else on this board is connected to the line. Sigh. I can't > share all the wonderful documentation I have. > Murphy's Law #2057: "If you know who your ancestors are, no one else is > related to you." > Ray Downing, Las Vegas, NV > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] >

i don't think you are going to find much of a connection among the early downing lines, some married into each other like mine in mason co, ky and pike co,oh. but it was not an uncommon name, with many variations, and you are talking about twor or three countries as a source. but good luck, joe [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: sacher1245 <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 03/10/2004 4:39:37 PM > Subject: Fw: [DOWNING] Downing Migrations > > > > > > > Hmmmm, > > > > A lot of us don't connect. (yet?) Mine were dropped from the mother ship > at > > Burke Co., NC in 1772, moved on to TN by the turn of the century, were in > MO > > by the mid 1830s and on to CA for the Gold rush. Busy little bunch! > > > > Paula > > > > James DOWNING b. 1772 m. Mary GARDNER (GARDINER) > > > > son, James DOWNING b. 1801 m#1 Lydia WILLIAMSON, #2 Mary CARLISLE BELL > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jjsnick" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:12 AM > > Subject: [DOWNING] Downing Migrations > > > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > I have tried to find out how my Downings connect to other lines, but I > > have been unsuccessful. Maybe a connection could be made by their > > migrations? Once they were in the states, they were in Vermont for 30 > years > > (in the late 1700's and the early 1800's) and then migrated to Allegany > > County, New York. > > > > > > Any other Downings with the same migration? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the > subject > > to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a > > message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected]

according to info i have seen, this major john downing was a british army officer, has anyone checked the english army records for him? joe [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: Kathy Smith <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 03/10/2004 1:30:10 PM > Subject: Re: [DOWNING] Downing Migrations > > I'm looking for Major John Downing's predecessors (his father, grandfather etc.). Is this your line? > > >>> [email protected] 03/10/04 10:41AM >>> > I guess it comes under "Murphy's Law". I read about all these Downing > lines that are being researched with you folks coming up on brick walls and > UFOs....and I sigh for you and sympathize with your frustration. > The funny thing -- the Murphy's Law corrolary -- comes due to my line, > that of Thomas Downing, after whom Downingtown, PA, is named. Amazingly, this > line has been thoroughly documented in Futhey & Cope; "Genealogy of the > Palmer-Trimble Families", "Genealogy of the Smedley Family"; and even recently in > Jane Davidson's fine work, "History of Downingtown". The line can be traced > back to Bradninch, Devonshire, England, in 1530. > But no one else on this board is connected to the line. Sigh. I can't > share all the wonderful documentation I have. > Murphy's Law #2057: "If you know who your ancestors are, no one else is > related to you." > Ray Downing, Las Vegas, NV > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected]

In a message dated 3/10/04 10:31:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I'm looking for Major John Downing's predecessors (his father, grandfather > etc.). Is this your line? > No, my early Pennsylvania Downings were all Quakers, no military service.

> Hmmmm, > > A lot of us don't connect. (yet?) Mine were dropped from the mother ship at > Burke Co., NC in 1772, moved on to TN by the turn of the century, were in MO > by the mid 1830s and on to CA for the Gold rush. Busy little bunch! > > Paula > > James DOWNING b. 1772 m. Mary GARDNER (GARDINER) > > son, James DOWNING b. 1801 m#1 Lydia WILLIAMSON, #2 Mary CARLISLE BELL > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jjsnick" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:12 AM > Subject: [DOWNING] Downing Migrations > > > > Hello. > > > > I have tried to find out how my Downings connect to other lines, but I > have been unsuccessful. Maybe a connection could be made by their > migrations? Once they were in the states, they were in Vermont for 30 years > (in the late 1700's and the early 1800's) and then migrated to Allegany > County, New York. > > > > Any other Downings with the same migration? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Jill > > > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject > to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a > message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > > >

I guess it comes under "Murphy's Law". I read about all these Downing lines that are being researched with you folks coming up on brick walls and UFOs....and I sigh for you and sympathize with your frustration. The funny thing -- the Murphy's Law corrolary -- comes due to my line, that of Thomas Downing, after whom Downingtown, PA, is named. Amazingly, this line has been thoroughly documented in Futhey & Cope; "Genealogy of the Palmer-Trimble Families", "Genealogy of the Smedley Family"; and even recently in Jane Davidson's fine work, "History of Downingtown". The line can be traced back to Bradninch, Devonshire, England, in 1530. But no one else on this board is connected to the line. Sigh. I can't share all the wonderful documentation I have. Murphy's Law #2057: "If you know who your ancestors are, no one else is related to you." Ray Downing, Las Vegas, NV

Hello. I have tried to find out how my Downings connect to other lines, but I have been unsuccessful. Maybe a connection could be made by their migrations? Once they were in the states, they were in Vermont for 30 years (in the late 1700's and the early 1800's) and then migrated to Allegany County, New York. Any other Downings with the same migration? Thanks! Jill

I'm looking for Major John Downing's predecessors (his father, grandfather etc.). Is this your line? >>> [email protected] 03/10/04 10:41AM >>> I guess it comes under "Murphy's Law". I read about all these Downing lines that are being researched with you folks coming up on brick walls and UFOs....and I sigh for you and sympathize with your frustration. The funny thing -- the Murphy's Law corrolary -- comes due to my line, that of Thomas Downing, after whom Downingtown, PA, is named. Amazingly, this line has been thoroughly documented in Futhey & Cope; "Genealogy of the Palmer-Trimble Families", "Genealogy of the Smedley Family"; and even recently in Jane Davidson's fine work, "History of Downingtown". The line can be traced back to Bradninch, Devonshire, England, in 1530. But no one else on this board is connected to the line. Sigh. I can't share all the wonderful documentation I have. Murphy's Law #2057: "If you know who your ancestors are, no one else is related to you." Ray Downing, Las Vegas, NV ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected]

Current research, announced last year, indicates that marrying relatives isn't as bad as we were previously led to believe UNLESS the family is known to carry disease, defective genes, etc. which would be made worse by doubling up on the gene pool. They aren't saying marry your brother but your cousin probably isn't a problem. Certainly in my family tree there are plenty of cousin marriages and no known horrid results. In my husband's family, however, it caused major problems. I would say it helps to know your genealogy in detail before marrying your relative. Cheryl Rothwell [email protected] Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al

Yes, my greatgrandfather Daniel Downing and his wife Julia Cronin came from county Cork. My grandmother, Anne Margaret (Downing) Cook was also born there and came to West Chester, PA where all three are buried. Several years ago I visited the towns in Ireland where they came from, Ballanagre (SP?) and Dounamore (Sp?). Would love to talk with others with that same heritage. Bill Cooke

Hi Listers, does anyone on the Downing list have irish connections and also London England, I keep seeing American Downings but never any Irish or London England. I am researching the Downings form Co.Cork. then later into London. England. is there anyone there on the list that may have connections with Co.Cork? regards, JUNE.

thanks ken, i should have mentioned in my message "on rootsweb' that the entry below is an excellent way to access downing info, as well as kens excellent home page on the mason co,ky downings. joe [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: Ken Downing <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 03/10/2004 6:39:18 AM > Subject: [DOWNING] William and Malinda Barton Downing > > I don't know why I do this but here is what I have on the subject. Most of > this is the work of Joe Downing who for years did it the old fashioned way. > Court house to court house, cemetery to cemtery. > As always we welcome verified corrections, additions, etc. Please email > direct at > [email protected] > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=kdown&id=I112 > > Ken Downing > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 4:01 AM > Subject: DOWNING-D Digest V04 #37 > > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected]

you are reminded that it is easy to search on downings at www.rootsweb.com , i have a file posted there #38079 under my old email address of [email protected] check it out, joe [email protected]

many of the downings in md/pa were of scots-irish origin. the religion is a clue because the early ones were presbyterians. also many of these came to america pre rev. war. joe [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: lgwestrich <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 03/09/2004 6:58:33 PM > Subject: RE: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings > > I would be very interested in anything that would help link my William who > married Malinda Barton to earlier generations that originated from England. > I have from William on down, but I trying to identify a homeland of origin. > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clyde Downing [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings > > While researching at the Auburn,Washington Public Library today I happened > upon a 5 or 6 volume on Virginia Genealogies. I looked at Vol. 2,which had > quite a lot of info on the DOWNINGS in Northumberland County,Va. from > WILLIAM (1) and covered several generations. If you are interested mail me > direct. Some of his descendants moved to mercer County,Ky. Clyde > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject > to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a > message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected]

OK, the UFO theory sounds good , but do any of you VA Downings have a John born between 1710 and 1730 who may have headed for sw VA??? HELP & THANKS Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Hodnett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings > Yep, Cheryl, that UFO theory of yours makes more sense all the time! > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cheryl Rothwell > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:00 PM > Subject: RE: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings > > > William Downing is the son of Timothy Downing and Mary Chenowith. I > certainly hope you find the missing link for Timothy but some of the finest > Downing researchers haven't been able to find it. I don't know if we can > firmly prove he was the son of Mary, Timothy's second wife, but it is > generally agreed he was. I personally favor the arrival by UFO theory... > > Cheryl Rothwell - descendant of Timothy Downing > Log[email protected] > Logan County ILGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~illogan > Central IL Regional Coordinator, ILGenWeb > Clark, Downing, Harding, Lucas, et al > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > >

These DOWNINGS are not mine. I just saw the info and thought other DOWNINGS might be interested. I did not really go through yhem. If you can't find the books, I can make copies for $10.00,which I will donate to the American Cancer Society. Clyde ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Hodnett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings > Clyde, > I have a William Downing who died in Mercer County, KY, brother to our Francis Downing born 1726/36 Yorkshire. I have long wondered if those VA Downings were ancestors of our Francis and William, because in 1624 another Francis Downing sailed from England to VA, and is supposed to be our ancestor. We have been unable to trace any of his family, yet he is said to have had a family and his descendents settled in that northern neck of VA. Interesting, that. Wish we had more to go on. Are there any Francis' mentioned in those early generations of William's? > Sue Hodnett > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Clyde Downing > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 1:45 PM > Subject: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings > > > While researching at the Auburn,Washington Public Library today I happened > upon a 5 or 6 volume on Virginia Genealogies. I looked at Vol. 2,which had > quite a lot of info on the DOWNINGS in Northumberland County,Va. from > WILLIAM (1) and covered several generations. If you are interested mail me > direct. Some of his descendants moved to mercer County,Ky. Clyde > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] >

If you can't find a copy of the book,I can make copies of it. It would cost $10.00,which I will donate to the American Cancer Society. Clyde ----- Original Message ----- From: "lgwestrich" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: RE: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings > I would be very interested in anything that would help link my William who > married Malinda Barton to earlier generations that originated from England. > I have from William on down, but I trying to identify a homeland of origin. > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clyde Downing [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DOWNING] Virginia Downings > > While researching at the Auburn,Washington Public Library today I happened > upon a 5 or 6 volume on Virginia Genealogies. I looked at Vol. 2,which had > quite a lot of info on the DOWNINGS in Northumberland County,Va. from > WILLIAM (1) and covered several generations. If you are interested mail me > direct. Some of his descendants moved to mercer County,Ky. Clyde > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject > to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a > message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe in list mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] To unsubscribe in digest mode send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject to [email protected] >