This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jenniferd83 Surnames: downing Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/354.445.447.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello ginger if you are referring to john isaac downing, that would be my grandfather. My dad is james downing and we have traveled many times to bisbee and other places. We met,i was little so i hope im right, frankie, joy and ollie. I remember lucky i think was his nickname but he was a cop and they at the time owned a pawn shop and had one child. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kanakapeakes Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/930.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Neil, My great grandfather purchased Clayton Lodge from Mrs. G.H. Downing (George passed away 1937/38) around 1947 and he ended up selling it to a brewery in 1951. Their plans were to convert it to a hotel. What is your e-mail address? I can add some more interesting bits of info for you including where he is buried. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX Surnames: DOWNING Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2248/mb.ashx Message Board Post: DOWNING Donald W - Vietnam Wall section 25 East Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. See this photo, one of the 238,525 photos, free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname. If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Contribution Surnames: WINNE, Fuller, ARMSTRONG Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/41.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Name: Downing, Mrs. Jane Date: June, 6, 1876 Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #021. Notes: Downing- On Saturday evening June 3d, of paralysis, died at the residence of her son-in-law, Mr. Horace Fuller, Mrs. Jane Downing aged 78 years. Funeral will take place at No. 988 Superior street, Thursday at 2 p.m. Friends are invited to attend. Cuyahoga Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Contribution Surnames: Stoeckle, Downing, Goetz, Detzel Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2247/mb.ashx Message Board Post: COLUMBUS: Thelma Dagger, 96, of Columbus, Ohio, died peacefully of natural causes on September 30, 2014, in her home at Friendship Village of Columbus. She was born on June 3, 1918, at St. Ann's Hospital in Cleveland, Ohio, the only child of Carl and Carrie (Stoeckle) Downing, and spent her youth in East Cleveland, Ohio. A 1936 graduate of Shaw High School and 1937 graduate of Dyke Business School, Thelma attended the Ohio State University in Columbus, OH, where she met her future husband, William C. Dagger, and earned a B.S. degree in Social Work in 1941. She received her M.A. in Adult Education at Ohio State in 1972. (She also attended law school for a year, but always said Bill told her to quit because she was getting better grades than he did.) On December 21, 1941, Thelma and Bill were married at the Tenth Avenue Baptist Church in Columbus, and, with the exception of Bill's service in the U.S. Army in Europe during World War II, they were almost inseparable during their nearly 47 years of marriage. They moved to Lancaster, Ohio in 1946, where they raised their four children and Bill started a law practice that grew into what is today Dagger Johnston Miller Ogilvie & Hampson, a leading Lancaster law firm. In January of 1986, while vacationing in Hawaii, Bill was rendered a quadriplegic in a swimming accident. Thelma courageously cared for Bill until his death on October 24, 1988. Thelma was always active - whether in the working world, in community affairs or for personal growth . She worked her way through college as a part-time secretary, and then in the Dean of Women's office while Bill finished law school at Ohio State, and in the Registration Department at Case Western Reserve University while Bill was overseas during the war. When her children were grown, Thelma became the first Law Office Administrator for the Dagger Johnston law firm, helping to implement the use of computers and processes that would set the stage for the firm's future growth. Thelma organized FISH, an organization doing neighborly acts of kindness, with the help of five Lancaster churches and 250 volunteers. At the request of Sister Lucille Stewart, she was also one of the organizers of the Fairfield County, Ohio Meals-On-Wheels program, helping to serve hot meals to older adults in the county. She organized and trained volunteers for a program for children in the Lancaster City Schools to take nature hikes at Alley Park, and became a story teller for the Youth Gardens and Pioneer Spirit. She was one of the initial founders of the Lancaster Festival and Farm Festival Day. She also taught courses in Parent Effectiveness Training for many years. In recognition of her service to the community, Thelma was awarded the Sertoma Service to Mankind Award as well as the Paul Harris Fellowship Award from the Rotary Club. Thelma's interests included ballroom dancing, creative writing, hiking, enjoying her children and grandchildren, volunteering at Friendship Village and enjoying her many good friends inside and outside of Friendship Village. Thelma was a proud mother and grandmother and is survived by her daughter, Gail Coates and her husband Ramsey of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and their daughters, Jennifer (Josh Das) and Emily; son, William C. Dagger, Jr.and his wife Barbara of Woodstock, Vermont, and their daughters, Alison and Jaclyn; son John C. Dagger and his companion Marcella Santos of Wheaton, Illinois, and John's sons, Jacob (Kelly), Peter and Will; and son, Thomas G. Dagger and his wife Lee Adella of Mountain Lakes, New Jersey, and their sons, Carl, Glen and John. She is also survived by her devoted companion, Carlos Clayton, who stayed tenderly by her side in sickness and health for over 15 years; her kindred-spirit sister-in-law, Mary Norman (Dagger) Miller of Oberlin, Ohio; and many loving nieces and nephews. She was predeceased by daughter-in-law, Ellen Weissbrodt Dagger, in 2008; and a child, Amy, who died in infancy. A memorial service will be held at 1:00 p.m., November 1, at Friendship Village of Columbus, Ohio, 5800 Forest Hills Blvd, Columbus, Ohio. Contributions in Thelma's memory may be made to Doctors Without Borders USA, P.O. Box 5030, Hagerstown, MD 21741-5030, or Macular Degeneration Research, 22512 Gateway Center Drive, Clarksburg, MD 20871. Online guestbook at www.cookandsonpallay.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Downing, Carrie S. Date: Oct 20 1962 Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #105. Notes: Downing. Carrie S. Downing, beloved wife of Carl H., mother of Thelma D. Dagger of Lancaster, Ohio, grandmother of four, sister of Gertrude Goetz, died Oct. 17, residence, 13510 Gainsboro Ave., East Cleveland, Ohio. The family will receive friends at The Edwards Funeral Home, 13145 Euclid Ave., where services will be held Saturday, Oct. 20, at 1:30 p.m. Name: Downing, Minnie Date: May 3 1943 Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #021. Notes: Downing: Minnie, age 79, residence 419 E. 124; wife of the late Ira S., beloved mother of Carl, Eva Detzel, grandmother of Robert Detzel and Thelma Dagger. Friends may call at the S. H. Johnston Funeral Home, 15314 MacAuley ave. at corner E. 152 and Lake Shore blvd., where services will be held Tuesday, at 2 p.m. Name: Detzel, Iva J. Date: Jul 2 1949 Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #020. Notes: Detzel, Iva J., 419 E. 124th: beloved wife of Robert Lynn; mother of Robert Lynn, Jr.; grandmother of Richard Lynn and David Robert; sister of Carl D. Downing. Friends may call at the S. H. Johnston Funeral Home. 15314 Macauley Ave., corner of E. 152d and Lake Shore Blvd., where services will be held Saturday, 2:30 p.m. Cuyahoga County Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Restland Surnames: DOWNING Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2246/mb.ashx Message Board Post: DOWNING G L 1910 1990 together forever DaveStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Restland Cemetery, Dallas Co, Texas . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. See this, one of the 237,827 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Dallas), cemetery(Restland user submitted) and Surname. If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely "not my family". Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Restland Surnames: DOWNING Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2245/mb.ashx Message Board Post: DOWNING Violet 1913 2007 together forever DaveStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Restland Cemetery, Dallas Co, Texas . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. See this, one of the 237,296 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Dallas), cemetery(Restland user submitted) and Surname. If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely "not my family". Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Hello, I would have to research my DOWNING sources (quite a few) but meanwhile, do you have additional names/dates from England and/or Ireland 14th & 15th century that would identify your branch ? My branch traces to Col. Adam Downing b. 1660, of Rocktown, County Derry, nortthern Ireland cheers, Rick T ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [DOWNING] William Downing Northumberland County Virginia 1651 - ? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: dgtline1 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/825.829.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I am a Downing descendant...looking for other family members to share > information. Have you found the Downing Times? > > All inquiries I make are failed attempts. Any advice? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > <br> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DOWNING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dgtline1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/825.829.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am a Downing descendant...looking for other family members to share information. Have you found the Downing Times? All inquiries I make are failed attempts. Any advice? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: viv811 Surnames: ROBERT, DOWNING Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/1107.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Need to talk - I am descended from Caroline ROBERT - family originally from Guernsey. Viv Martin viv@vivmartin.com.au Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Truly amazing response! How wonderful!   Rowan M. Downing   ----- Original Message ----- From: downing@rootsweb.com To:, Cc: Sent:Fri, 27 Jun 2014 20:29:41 +0100 Subject:Re: [DOWNING] Downing Link to Royalty Addendum I hope the following will help in some way. Emanuel Downing's father was George Downing. Wording - 'Emanuell the son of George Downing Bapt the 12 of August' Baptism year - 1585. Ref: Baptism records of St. Lawrence Church Ipswich, Suffolk, England. [Ipswich Record Office. Fishe 1 0f 17 Ref: F.B. 106. Microfilm J426/48. Vol. 5849. Emanuel Downing was buried 14 December 1660 in St. Martin in the Fields, Westminster, Middlesex. Ref: Boyd's London Burials 1538-1853 + City of Westminster Archives Centre. There was no such person as Dorcas Blois Bellamy. It's difficult to know the name of George Downing's wife as - George Downing's wife's first name on her burial record St. Lawrence Church, Ipswich, Suffolk is shown with 2 marks and a gap between them. The name *Dorcas does not show as her first name. Wording - '..[2 marks]... Downynge wyff of George Buried the 21 of December ...' Burial year - 1610. Under his wife's death are the words 'George Downinge [a word?] was Buried the ...' the wording/date is illegible because it's so faint. Ref: Burial record St. Lawrence Church - Ipswich Record Office. Burial year - 1610. George Downing is buried in the Chancel of St. Lawrence. [now a false floor covers his grave stone]. George Downing father of Emanuel was the headmaster from 1608 to 1610 of what is now known as 'Ipswich School'. *Dorcus/Dorcas Blois There was a Dorcas Blois daughter of William **Blois/Bloys/Bloise of Ipswich, and then Grundisburgh, who was christened 2nd September 1592 at St. Nicholas Church, Ipswich. Ref: St. Nicholas Church, Ipswich transcripts - Ipswich Record Office. Dorcas married a George Downing December 2nd 1611 at St. Nicholas Church. Ref: St. Nicholas Church. Dorcas Downing/e nee Blois was buried 3rd September 1638 in St. Georges Church, St. Cross Village, South Elmham, Suffolk Ref: Burial record at Ipswich Record Office. George Downing was buried in 1655 up by the alter of St. Peters, Spexhall, Suffolk. Ref: His grave stone which also names Dorcas and her father William Blois. ** The 3 different Blois spellings are used for the same family. Dorcas Bellamy. Many years ago I came across a message which stated that a Downing male was linked to the Bellamy name through marriage but it was not to George Downing. I don't think it was a Downing marrying a Bellamy, if I remember correctly it was a Downing wife whose sister married a Bellamy and the author of the message thought that's how the confusion of the name Dorcas Bellamy came to be linked directly to George Downing. George Downing Headmaster and father of Emanuel Downing was the son of George Downing of Beccles, Suffolk and his wife Cicely. Ref: Will of George Downing 1561 Prerogative Court of Canterbury. Proved 26 June 1564. Calybut Downing. Second husband of Elizabeth Wingfield died in 1644 - his will was made October 16 1644. He died after their son Dr. Calybut Downing. -----Original Message----- From: downing-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:downing-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: 27 June 2014 12:58 To: DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DOWNING] Downing Link to Royalty Addendum This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: richardbarbeau Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2243/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've found that online copies of "Genealogy of the Downing family and immediate relations" excluding the copy on Heritage Quest, does not include the family tree chart that I mentioned. I've tried unsuccessfully to snip copies and post them here. The pages are too large at 100% magnification and anything less comes out illegible. I did however snip a partial "tease" page which I'm posting. For those willing to help prove or disprove the case for Emanuel's link to Henry III, I'm including a new list with approx. dates of births and deaths. HenryIII 1216-1272 Eleanor of Provence 1217-1291 Edmund Crouchback 1245-1296 Blanche D'Artois 1248-1302 Henry 3rd Earl of Lancaster 1281-1345 Maud Chaworth 1281=1317 Eleanor of Lancaster 1312-1371 Richard Fitzalan 3rd Earl of Arundel 1306-1376 Richard Fitzalan 4th Earl of Arundel 1346-1397 Elizabeth de Bohun 1349-1385 Elizabeth Fitzalan Dutchess of Norfolk 1366-1425 Sir Robert Gousell 1352-1403 Elizabeth Gousell 1396-1491 Sir Robert Wingfield 1403-1454 Sir Henry Wingfield 1435-1493 Elizabeth Rokes died c, 1530 Robert Wingfield 1478-1573 Margery Quarles died 1574 Robert Wingfield 1523-1580 Elizabeth Cecil 1525-1611 Elizabeth Wingfield b. 1570 Calybute Downing 1574-1642 Emanuel Downing 1585-1658 Lucy Winthrop 1600-1679 And in case you believe George to be Emanuel's father: Sir John Wingfield 1430-1481 (Son of Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Gousell) Elizabeth Fitzlewis b. 1432 Sir John of Dunham Wingfield 1464-1509 Margaret Dorward b. 1476 Sir Thomas Wingfield 1512-1599 Elizabeth Woodhouse 1503-1595 Elizabeth Wingfield 1528-1621 Geoffrey Downing 1524-1595 George Downing 1562-1610 (alternate parents of Emanuel Downing) Dorcus Blais Bellamy 1547-1592 Who were Emanuel's parents?? I'm attaching a piece of the hand written Downing Family tree as described above. Please help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DOWNING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DOWNING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I hope the following will help in some way. Emanuel Downing's father was George Downing. Wording - 'Emanuell the son of George Downing Bapt the 12 of August' Baptism year - 1585. Ref: Baptism records of St. Lawrence Church Ipswich, Suffolk, England. [Ipswich Record Office. Fishe 1 0f 17 Ref: F.B. 106. Microfilm J426/48. Vol. 5849. Emanuel Downing was buried 14 December 1660 in St. Martin in the Fields, Westminster, Middlesex. Ref: Boyd's London Burials 1538-1853 + City of Westminster Archives Centre. There was no such person as Dorcas Blois Bellamy. It's difficult to know the name of George Downing's wife as - George Downing's wife's first name on her burial record St. Lawrence Church, Ipswich, Suffolk is shown with 2 marks and a gap between them. The name *Dorcas does not show as her first name. Wording - '..[2 marks]... Downynge wyff of George Buried the 21 of December ...' Burial year - 1610. Under his wife's death are the words 'George Downinge [a word?] was Buried the ...' the wording/date is illegible because it's so faint. Ref: Burial record St. Lawrence Church - Ipswich Record Office. Burial year - 1610. George Downing is buried in the Chancel of St. Lawrence. [now a false floor covers his grave stone]. George Downing father of Emanuel was the headmaster from 1608 to 1610 of what is now known as 'Ipswich School'. *Dorcus/Dorcas Blois There was a Dorcas Blois daughter of William **Blois/Bloys/Bloise of Ipswich, and then Grundisburgh, who was christened 2nd September 1592 at St. Nicholas Church, Ipswich. Ref: St. Nicholas Church, Ipswich transcripts - Ipswich Record Office. Dorcas married a George Downing December 2nd 1611 at St. Nicholas Church. Ref: St. Nicholas Church. Dorcas Downing/e nee Blois was buried 3rd September 1638 in St. Georges Church, St. Cross Village, South Elmham, Suffolk. Ref: Burial record at Ipswich Record Office. George Downing was buried in 1655 up by the alter of St. Peters, Spexhall, Suffolk. Ref: His grave stone which also names Dorcas and her father William Blois. ** The 3 different Blois spellings are used for the same family. Dorcas Bellamy. Many years ago I came across a message which stated that a Downing male was linked to the Bellamy name through marriage but it was not to George Downing. I don't think it was a Downing marrying a Bellamy, if I remember correctly it was a Downing wife whose sister married a Bellamy and the author of the message thought that's how the confusion of the name Dorcas Bellamy came to be linked directly to George Downing. George Downing Headmaster and father of Emanuel Downing was the son of George Downing of Beccles, Suffolk and his wife Cicely. Ref: Will of George Downing 1561 Prerogative Court of Canterbury. Proved 26 June 1564. Calybut Downing. Second husband of Elizabeth Wingfield died in 1644 - his will was made October 16 1644. He died after their son Dr. Calybut Downing. -----Original Message----- From: downing-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:downing-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: 27 June 2014 12:58 To: DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DOWNING] Downing Link to Royalty Addendum This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: richardbarbeau Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2243/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've found that online copies of "Genealogy of the Downing family and immediate relations" excluding the copy on Heritage Quest, does not include the family tree chart that I mentioned. I've tried unsuccessfully to snip copies and post them here. The pages are too large at 100% magnification and anything less comes out illegible. I did however snip a partial "tease" page which I'm posting. For those willing to help prove or disprove the case for Emanuel's link to Henry III, I'm including a new list with approx. dates of births and deaths. HenryIII 1216-1272 Eleanor of Provence 1217-1291 Edmund Crouchback 1245-1296 Blanche D'Artois 1248-1302 Henry 3rd Earl of Lancaster 1281-1345 Maud Chaworth 1281=1317 Eleanor of Lancaster 1312-1371 Richard Fitzalan 3rd Earl of Arundel 1306-1376 Richard Fitzalan 4th Earl of Arundel 1346-1397 Elizabeth de Bohun 1349-1385 Elizabeth Fitzalan Dutchess of Norfolk 1366-1425 Sir Robert Gousell 1352-1403 Elizabeth Gousell 1396-1491 Sir Robert Wingfield 1403-1454 Sir Henry Wingfield 1435-1493 Elizabeth Rokes died c, 1530 Robert Wingfield 1478-1573 Margery Quarles died 1574 Robert Wingfield 1523-1580 Elizabeth Cecil 1525-1611 Elizabeth Wingfield b. 1570 Calybute Downing 1574-1642 Emanuel Downing 1585-1658 Lucy Winthrop 1600-1679 And in case you believe George to be Emanuel's father: Sir John Wingfield 1430-1481 (Son of Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Gousell) Elizabeth Fitzlewis b. 1432 Sir John of Dunham Wingfield 1464-1509 Margaret Dorward b. 1476 Sir Thomas Wingfield 1512-1599 Elizabeth Woodhouse 1503-1595 Elizabeth Wingfield 1528-1621 Geoffrey Downing 1524-1595 George Downing 1562-1610 (alternate parents of Emanuel Downing) Dorcus Blais Bellamy 1547-1592 Who were Emanuel's parents?? I'm attaching a piece of the hand written Downing Family tree as described above. Please help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DOWNING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: richardbarbeau Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2243/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've found that online copies of "Genealogy of the Downing family and immediate relations" excluding the copy on Heritage Quest, does not include the family tree chart that I mentioned. I've tried unsuccessfully to snip copies and post them here. The pages are too large at 100% magnification and anything less comes out illegible. I did however snip a partial "tease" page which I'm posting. For those willing to help prove or disprove the case for Emanuel's link to Henry III, I'm including a new list with approx. dates of births and deaths. HenryIII 1216-1272 Eleanor of Provence 1217-1291 Edmund Crouchback 1245-1296 Blanche D'Artois 1248-1302 Henry 3rd Earl of Lancaster 1281-1345 Maud Chaworth 1281=1317 Eleanor of Lancaster 1312-1371 Richard Fitzalan 3rd Earl of Arundel 1306-1376 Richard Fitzalan 4th Earl of Arundel 1346-1397 Elizabeth de Bohun 1349-1385 Elizabeth Fitzalan Dutchess of Norfolk 1366-1425 Sir Robert Gousell 1352-1403 Elizabeth Gousell 1396-1491 Sir Robert Wingfield 1403-1454 Sir Henry Wingfield 1435-1493 Elizabeth Rokes died c, 1530 Robert Wingfield 1478-1573 Margery Quarles died 1574 Robert Wingfield 1523-1580 Elizabeth Cecil 1525-1611 Elizabeth Wingfield b. 1570 Calybute Downing 1574-1642 Emanuel Downing 1585-1658 Lucy Winthrop 1600-1679 And in case you believe George to be Emanuel's father: Sir John Wingfield 1430-1481 (Son of Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Gousell) Elizabeth Fitzlewis b. 1432 Sir John of Dunham Wingfield 1464-1509 Margaret Dorward b. 1476 Sir Thomas Wingfield 1512-1599 Elizabeth Woodhouse 1503-1595 Elizabeth Wingfield 1528-1621 Geoffrey Downing 1524-1595 George Downing 1562-1610 (alternate parents of Emanuel Downing) Dorcus Blais Bellamy 1547-1592 Who were Emanuel's parents?? I'm attaching a piece of the hand written Downing Family tree as described above. Please help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: richardbarbeau Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2242/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My wife is related to Emanuel Downing, husband of Lucy Winthrop. While researching, I came across a book entitled "Genealogy of the Downing family and immediate collateral relations" printed in Philadelphia by Press of the Dando Print and Pub. Co. 1901, 205 pgs. In it is an old chart of the Downing family to include ancestors and descendants of Emanuel showing lineage to King Henry III of England. Before everyone gets all excited. This book published in 1901 had only 50 copies printed. I guessing that the author, W.C. Downing may have drawn the chart himself and published what he thought to be legit. I found it through Heritage Quest, an online subscription service my local library pays for. Many libraries have this service. Search books using the Downing name. I started out to disprove the chart and so far have been unsuccessful. I have found a discrepancy concerning the father of Emanuel. The chart lists the name Calybut Downing, while traditionally his father has been declared to be a George Downing. There is information available to support either contention however both fathers lead back to King Henry through the same grandparents Sir Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Gousell. Perhaps this is "old" legend already proved or disproved. Can anyone support or disprove the connection. I will list the names with HenryIII going backward below. HenryIII and his wife Eleanor de Berenger Edmund Crouchback and Blanche D'Artois Henry Earl of Lancaster and Maud Chaworth Eleanor of Lancaster and Richard Fitzalan Third Earl of Arundel Richard Fitzalan, fourth Earl of Arundel and Elizabeth, Countess of Arundel de Bohun Elizabeth Fitzalan and Sir Robert Gousell Elizabeth Gousell and Sir Robert Wingfield Sir Henry Wingfield and Elizabeth Rokes* Robert Wingfield and Margery Quarles* Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Cecil* Elizabeth Wingfield and Calybut Downing* Emanuel Downing and Lucy Winthrop remove all four pairs of Emanuel's grandparents with the asterisk and add in order Sir John Wingfield and Elizabeth Fitzlewis (son of Sir Robert and Elizabeth Gousell) Sir John of Dunham Wingfield and Margaret Dorward Sir Thomas Wingfield and Elizabeth Woodhouse Elizabeth Wingfield and Geoffrey Downing George Downing and Dorcas Bellamy (parents to Emanuel) Replacing four sets of grand(parents) with five can be answered by generational longevity or possible error.. What I'm really asking for is help proving and disproving the lineage. Many of the ancestors listed are on Wikipedia and seem legit. I haven't included birth and death dates (no room). Please help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Dear Richard, I am also in the line from Emanuel Downing.The information that you set out is largely correct, to the best of my knowledge. Unfortunately I am currently away from my records, as I am working overseas from my home.  I am aware of the book to which you refer. I had a great aunt who spent some time independently verifying the information. I think that Sir Calybut Downing was certainly in the line.There are others also on this thread in the past knows a great deal about this. I will try to locate their contact details. The family had a number of links to the British royal families and some surprising more modern, but important families in the UK. It is to be remembered that the royals generally had many children and thus there are a very great number of people in and originally from Britain who can claim a link to royalty. Very best wishes Rowan Rowan M. Downing QC          ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com downing@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:03:28 -0000 Subject:[DOWNING] Downing Link to Royalty This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: richardbarbeau Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2242/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My wife is related to Emanuel Downing, husband of Lucy Winthrop. While researching, I came across a book entitled "Genealogy of the Downing family and immediate collateral relations" printed in Philadelphia by Press of the Dando Print and Pub. Co. 1901, 205 pgs. In it is an old chart of the Downing family to include ancestors and descendants of Emanuel showing lineage to King Henry III of England. Before everyone gets all excited. This book published in 1901 had only 50 copies printed. I guessing that the author, W.C. Downing may have drawn the chart himself and published what he thought to be legit. I found it through Heritage Quest, an online subscription service my local library pays for. Many libraries have this service. Search books using the Downing name. I started out to disprove the chart and so far have been unsuccessful. I have found a discrepancy concerning the father of Emanuel. The chart lists the name Calybut Downing, while traditionally his father has been declared to be a George Downing. There is information available to support either contention however both fathers lead back to King Henry through the same grandparents Sir Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Gousell. Perhaps this is "old" legend already proved or disproved. Can anyone support or disprove the connection. I will list the names with HenryIII going backward below. HenryIII and his wife Eleanor de Berenger Edmund Crouchback and Blanche D'Artois Henry Earl of Lancaster and Maud Chaworth Eleanor of Lancaster and Richard Fitzalan Third Earl of Arundel Richard Fitzalan, fourth Earl of Arundel and Elizabeth, Countess of Arundel de Bohun Elizabeth Fitzalan and Sir Robert Gousell Elizabeth Gousell and Sir Robert Wingfield Sir Henry Wingfield and Elizabeth Rokes* Robert Wingfield and Margery Quarles* Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Cecil* Elizabeth Wingfield and Calybut Downing* Emanuel Downing and Lucy Winthrop remove all four pairs of Emanuel's grandparents with the asterisk and add in order Sir John Wingfield and Elizabeth Fitzlewis (son of Sir Robert and Elizabeth Gousell) Sir John of Dunham Wingfield and Margaret Dorward Sir Thomas Wingfield and Elizabeth Woodhouse Elizabeth Wingfield and Geoffrey Downing George Downing and Dorcas Bellamy (parents to Emanuel) Replacing four sets of grand(parents) with five can be answered by generational longevity or possible error.. What I'm really asking for is help proving and disproving the lineage. Many of the ancestors listed are on Wikipedia and seem legit. I haven't included birth and death dates (no room). Please help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DOWNING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Richard, I am also in the line from Emanuel Downing.The information that you set out is largely correct, to the best of my knowledge. Unfortunately I am currently away from my records, as I am working overseas from my home.  I am aware of the book to which you refer. I had a great aunt who spent some time independently verifying the information. I think that Sir Calybut Downing was certainly in the line.There are others also on this thread in the past knows a great deal about this. I will try to locate their contact details. The family had a number of links to the British royal families and some surprising more modern, but important families in the UK. It is to be remembered that the royals generally had many children and thus there are a very great number of people in and originally from Britain who can claim a link to royalty. Very best wishes Rowan Rowan M. Downing QC          ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com downing@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:03:28 -0000 Subject:[DOWNING] Downing Link to Royalty This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: richardbarbeau Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2242/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My wife is related to Emanuel Downing, husband of Lucy Winthrop. While researching, I came across a book entitled "Genealogy of the Downing family and immediate collateral relations" printed in Philadelphia by Press of the Dando Print and Pub. Co. 1901, 205 pgs. In it is an old chart of the Downing family to include ancestors and descendants of Emanuel showing lineage to King Henry III of England. Before everyone gets all excited. This book published in 1901 had only 50 copies printed. I guessing that the author, W.C. Downing may have drawn the chart himself and published what he thought to be legit. I found it through Heritage Quest, an online subscription service my local library pays for. Many libraries have this service. Search books using the Downing name. I started out to disprove the chart and so far have been unsuccessful. I have found a discrepancy concerning the father of Emanuel. The chart lists the name Calybut Downing, while traditionally his father has been declared to be a George Downing. There is information available to support either contention however both fathers lead back to King Henry through the same grandparents Sir Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Gousell. Perhaps this is "old" legend already proved or disproved. Can anyone support or disprove the connection. I will list the names with HenryIII going backward below. HenryIII and his wife Eleanor de Berenger Edmund Crouchback and Blanche D'Artois Henry Earl of Lancaster and Maud Chaworth Eleanor of Lancaster and Richard Fitzalan Third Earl of Arundel Richard Fitzalan, fourth Earl of Arundel and Elizabeth, Countess of Arundel de Bohun Elizabeth Fitzalan and Sir Robert Gousell Elizabeth Gousell and Sir Robert Wingfield Sir Henry Wingfield and Elizabeth Rokes* Robert Wingfield and Margery Quarles* Robert Wingfield and Elizabeth Cecil* Elizabeth Wingfield and Calybut Downing* Emanuel Downing and Lucy Winthrop remove all four pairs of Emanuel's grandparents with the asterisk and add in order Sir John Wingfield and Elizabeth Fitzlewis (son of Sir Robert and Elizabeth Gousell) Sir John of Dunham Wingfield and Margaret Dorward Sir Thomas Wingfield and Elizabeth Woodhouse Elizabeth Wingfield and Geoffrey Downing George Downing and Dorcas Bellamy (parents to Emanuel) Replacing four sets of grand(parents) with five can be answered by generational longevity or possible error.. What I'm really asking for is help proving and disproving the lineage. Many of the ancestors listed are on Wikipedia and seem legit. I haven't included birth and death dates (no room). Please help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DOWNING-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: margerice1 Surnames: Downing, Turner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2241/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have an original 4-1/2" x 6" photograph, glued into an 8"x10" frame, of "Mary Etta Downing", which I'd like to get back to descendants or family members. Photo was taken in Mt. Pleasant (Henry Co.) IA, and she looks to be about 40-45. I found Marietta in the 1860 census for Trenton (Henry Co.) IA, age 9, daughter of Isaac and Nancy Turner. By 1880, she was age 30, married to George Downing, age 34, and they lived Danbury (Red Willow Co.) NE with daughters Leora & Alice, and sons Samuel & Robert. In 1900, birthdate is May 1850 and she lived with sons in Tippecanoe (Henry Co.) IA. PMT shows that she died 6 Nov 1907 and is buried Henry Co. Get back to me at margerice@prodigy.net if you are related to Marietta Turner Downing. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Contribution Surnames: Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2240/mb.ashx Message Board Post: DOWNING, Maxine E. 92, of Springfield, went homeon Wednesday, May 14, 2014 in Vancrest of Urbana. She was born June 7, 1921 in Springfield, Ohio (Clark County) the daughter of William C. and Pearl E. (Higgenbotham) Thomas. Maxine's was married to her wonderful husband, Freely G. Downing, Sr., for 59 years. She worked alongside him for 25 years as a bookkeeper and florist at their garden center in Springfield, spending her later years with her daughter. Survivors include her daughter Betty Sparks, Springfield; three grandchildren, Cynthia Brumfield, Teresa Matibag and Freely Downing, III; seven great grandchildren; special niece, Billie Pfifer and several nephews. She was preceded in death by her parents, her husband, Freely G. in 1997, one son, Freely G., Jr. in 2001, one brother, William C. Thomas, one sister, Doris Burkepile. The family would like to extend a special thank you to the staff at Vancrest of Urbana, Ohio for their extraordinary care. Funeral services will be held at 2:00p.m.on Monday in the CONROY FUNERAL HOME. Visitation will be held 2 hours prior from 12:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. Burial will follow in Ferncliff Cemetery, Springfield, Ohio . . Published in Springfield News-Sun on May 18, 2014 - See more at: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/springfield/obituary.aspx?n=maxine-e-downing&pid=171060342#sthash.PeJJiopy.dpuf Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kaptin71 Surnames: Sutherland Downing Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2239/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jayne, I believe you just contacted me about the Sutherland/Downing families. Lost your email - please send another! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cnhpuresugar30 Surnames: Downing/Downs/Crain Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.downing/2061.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cherokee Nation ) Flint District ) SS.. in the nature of the Citizenship Claim - G A Crain, this day personally appeard before me B Fletcher Crain in an for the Flint District Cherokee with John Ross of Flint District Cherokee Nation and makes the following affidavit. Affidavit states that he is 67 years old - a full Blood Cherokee Indian and so recognized by the Cherokee Nation. Affiadavit further states that he was well acquainted with Zach Down - or Zach Downing - was acquainted with his father who was a Cherokee Indian by Blood. Zach Downs is the father of Carolin Downing who married a man by the name of G.A. Crain. Zack Downing was an agent issuing Rations for the Cherokee Back in the old nation. Zack Downing was a Cousin to Lewis Downing & they all came west together. I am not concerned in the procution of this claim. ^ his John X Ross ^ mark http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=76810714 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>