see "Genealogies of VA Families" from the Wm & Mary College Mag, pub Genealogical Publishing Co of Baltimore in 1982 for this family, joe >Anyone tracing a Capt. William Downing of Northumberland Co Va 1600-1700? > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== >Do you know of Downing web pages? Post the URL here. > >

Daughters of The American Revolution. Membership because of lineage traced to a Revolutionary Soldier. Line must be verified from first generation to present. Esther At 01:52 PM 9/16/98 EDT, you wrote: >Sherry, > I should get my thoughts altogether, but it is a hectic morning here; >what is DAR? How do I get to the DAR Patricotic Index? >Suehodnett@aol.com > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== >Do you know of Downing web pages? Post the URL here. > > >

This is in reference to the Ohio Downings, specifically the ones in Delaware Co. Oh. Joe Downing would probably have more info on this line and I hope he will answer it. I am a descendent of Felty Wheeler and Mary Ann Hakes. Mary's son Madison had a son named Joseph who married a Dora (Spech) Richmond. Dora's mother was a Downing, and originated from the Md line..This verified by Downing Newsletter. In checking the web, I have found in the Downing Forum, a reference to another Hakes who married into the same Downing line. EXCEPT, this Hakes line was from James Loyal Hakes. My Hakes line originated from John and Desire (Downing) Hakes. Joe, are both these lines connected? Desire's father was Henry and Ann (Hakes) Downing. This line has often intrigued me, and I would love to have a definite answer. Esther

There's an internet site that has the DAR records (Ancestry.com), but it's a fee-required site. As I recall, I paid something like twenty bucks for a 3-month enrollment membership, and I got my money's worth out of it. I believe also that all the Family History Centers of the LDS have the volumes of books. My local FHC has them, but I don't recall how they are indexed. NOTE: I have no connection with Ancestry.com except as a fees-paying member. Ray Downing

>Sherry, > I forgot to add that his second marriage took place in Ky. Do you >research in that state, too? Susannah died somehwere between 1775/6 and 1782. >Or else he divorced her one. Suehodnett@aol.com > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== >What Downing resources do you own? Tell us. > Sue, I have conflicting dates and information in my notes on Francis Downing b Yorkshire, England...that he came to America on the RETURN in 1624 cannot be true, to Virginia. Perhaps I should look at the Virginia Downings for a Francis. This is the line of Lila Beal of Georgetown, KY in 1938. Makes me wonder if her work was preserved somewhere...a KY library, publication, genealogical society...or if she was a DAR. Fannie Aldridge Bell was DAR #92665 on this line...perhaps in the DAR Patriot Index. Clues and work for somebody! Sherry

>For Sherry, > I believe the family line of Francis Downing, born 1736 of Yorkshire, had >some descendents who moved into Ohio. Will check my notes as soon as I can >and see who exactly it was and post the info if you like. Suehodnett@aol.com > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== >What Downing resources do you own? Tell us. > Francis is not my husband's ancestor but...some of his family lived in the Lexington KY area. His son William died there, but William Junior went to Madison Co OH...so did his son Richard. This might help someone. Sherry

This is from Rootsweb and is applicable to all postings to a Rootsweb mailing list. I'd say it is an excellent suggestion for any mailing list for the reasons stated. RootsWeb accepts only plain text mail. That means that HTML mail, attachments, ``enriched text'', and a few other formats can't be sent to RootsWeb mailing lists. You can post your message if you send it in plain text; turn off the ``Post in HTML'' or ``Enriched Text'' features of your mail reader, or don't use any attachments. See http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm for instructions on turning off HTML in most of the popular mail programs, or ask your ISP's technical support line for help. We've had to institute this policy because of the problems that accompany these fancy mail formats. Some people don't have mail programs that are capable of processing the special file formats. Even among those who do, different mail programs handle these special formats in very different and confusing ways. HTML messages pose special problems to our digested mailing lists. Most of all, HTML-ified mail and attachments place a considerable burden on RootsWeb's overworked machines. All in all, mail in this format produces a lot of problems for RootsWeb's servers and subscribers, so we find it's best just to use plain text. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com

Let me mention here that it is always a good idea to check out the USGenWeb sites for the counties involved. I know -- I have posted on several and never heard a word. OTOH, I posted a question on one site on a Sunday and by Monday I had all the information I needed and more. By the end of the week a guy in Colorado had mailed me hard copies of the information! Bottom line is you have nothing to lose and a lot to gain by posting. In general the web site coordinators are not required to update the query page more than once a month but most update at least once a week, probably on the weekends. Many of these volunteers hold down full time jobs, have families, etc.. so weekends are their best time. [I try to post as soon as I get them but it doesn't always happen.] You can always check to see if your query has been posted. Roots-L also has a clearing house for people searching for various surnames. That list comes out once a month. My surnames are on it and I get a lot of queries, did find one piece of information that way. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com

The information on Ohio Downings in the War of 1812 is interesting but... Three of John Downing's children served from Ohio - John [son] served from May 1-December 12, 1812. Josiah enlisted with his brother John and was KIA July 20, 1812. Robert enlisted in 1813. I see a John and a Robert, no Josiah, on that list. Guess I'm going to have to get that record. Josiah left a widow but no children so I suppose it is irrelevant but... Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com

Searching for any descendants of Francis DOWNING, 1736 of Yorkshire, England. Also researching NORRIS; looking for descendants of David Norris born 1800 in the York district of South Carolina. He is the son of Simon William Norris, born 1776 Ashe County, NC. David married Rachel.........had twelve children: Mary, Robert Abner, John, David Michael, Lucinda, James Avery, Adaline, Sarah, Malinda, Thomas, Thursey, and Elizabeth. My direct line comes down thorugh John, who was born in 1826. He married an Elizabeth.......... Anyway, is there anyone who recognizes these people and belong to any of them? Suehodnett@aol.com

Sherry, I should get my thoughts altogether, but it is a hectic morning here; what is DAR? How do I get to the DAR Patricotic Index? Suehodnett@aol.com

Sherry, I don't know what that means either: came to America on the RETURN. I just assumed that the date he returned to England was 1624; but it is worded strangely. Sue

Sherry, I believe it is true that a Francis Downing came over here about 1624. His father is a John Downing, who died in 1623. Somewhere I saw a copy of this man's will: it mentions a Francis, Richard, and an Abigail. I suspect after his father died, and the estate was settled, then this Francis took off for America, and then returned to England. My idea only, but I have nothing better to offer; this Francis, of course, cannot be the one said to be born in 1736; unless there was a bad mixup in the dates, and surely someone would have caught that and corrected it by now. But at the time I saw a copy of the early Francis' father's will, I was new to this and didn't copy down the source. Should you come across anything more on this subject, I sure wish you'd let me know it, too. Suehodnett@aol.com

Anyone tracing a Capt. William Downing of Northumberland Co Va 1600-1700?

Sherry, I forgot to add that his second marriage took place in Ky. Do you research in that state, too? Susannah died somehwere between 1775/6 and 1782. Or else he divorced her one. Suehodnett@aol.com

Sherry, Yes and no. But if I assume there is only one francis Downing of about 1736, it does. My problem is just being sure there is only one. If so, he married twice 1) Susannah (Wells); 2) Henrietta Viley. Which would be alright; I just want to clear up that question; and as one person suggested, I might be letting county lines confuse me. The counties in question were all one at one point and seperated later. Sue

For Sherry, I believe the family line of Francis Downing, born 1736 of Yorkshire, had some descendents who moved into Ohio. Will check my notes as soon as I can and see who exactly it was and post the info if you like. Suehodnett@aol.com

>Dalen Shellhamer is a descendant of Delilah Downing. After her first >husband, my gggrandfather William Nelson Downing, died in the Civil War she >remarried to a Shellhammer. Dalen and Sandy know just about everything >about the southern part of Logan County. > >The DAR stopped taking that 'proof' on John Downing many years ago. The >John Downing she proved is buried in Mason County, KY, well accounted for. >Yes, Gregath organized a dedication at John Downing's grave. I was there. >That night the DAR marker disappeared. A new one was obtained and it was >cemented down so I guess it is going to stay even though he's out. Gregath >is a descendant of John Downing. I think she's a descendant of Robert too >but I don't know how...and I'm not interested enough to look it up. <g> > >Sheryl Jane right? [I peeked.] > > >Cheryl Rothwell >clrothwell@mindspring.com >Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator >http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm >Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L@rootsweb.com >Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== >Do you know of Downing web pages? Post the URL here. > Cheryl, You peeked? Where would you ever find my middle name? Aren't you clever! Sherry

>Sherry, > One more question: was the Francis Downing listed as being a war >pensioner, in the military in 1746, or born in 1746? This is the one >Henrietta would have applied for the pension. Again, thanks for your help. >This is really confusing me. Suehodentt@aol.com > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > > Sue, Francis Downing was age 40 in the 1776 Maryland census, with wife Susanna. So, he was born about 1736. His son Francis was born 1771 Harford Co MD. In the Maryland Revolutionary Records by H.W. Newman, 1938 are listed: Francis Downing private militia 1746, wife applied for pension Samuel Downing private Maryland line The census of 1776 Maryland shows Henry Downing, wife Sarah...hard to read; James Downing wife Sarah...found in Maryland Records, Colonial, Revolutionary, County and Church from Original Sources by G. M. Brumbaugh, 1915. Maryland Revolutionary Records, by Harry W. Newman Part 1, Francis Downing, as listed above. The Early Settlers of Maryland by Gust Skordas lists: Mary Downing transported 1680 Robert Downing same 1670 William Downing same 1666 William Downing 1670 with wife Mary lived Somerset Co William Downing "service 1678" of Calvert Co. Does this help? Sherry

>I really enjoy reading the posts for the Downings, however, I've not >seen any postings for Downings in OH, especially northeastern Ohio. The >Downing Family in OH that I'm researching would have settled there in >what is now Lake County OH, in the early 1800's from CT. Phineas >DOWNING was born in CT in 1804 and moved to Geauga/Lake County prior to >1825. I know nothing of his family--parents, brothers, sisters, etc. >He did move to Michigan for a few years, but later moved back to Lake >County, OH where he spent the remainder of his life. He died in 1876. > >There were other Downings in that part of OH at the time he was there, >but I know nothing about them. > >Any information would be most helpful and appreciated. > >Thank you. > >Barbara > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > > Barbara: >From the Roster of Ohio Soldiers in the War of 1812, Adjutant General of OH, 1916, Clearfield Company Reprints and Remainders: John Downing, John Downing, Corporal Joseph Downing, Robert Downing, Francis Downing [these three in the same company], John Downing and Meshach Downing. Settlements of Estates, Abstracts of Franklin Co OH Records by Mrs. John M. Titus in an unknown publication: 14 June 1808 Michael Johnston estate, appraisers Thomas Foster, Jonas Bradley and John Downing. Downing Guardianship August 31 1829 of Dorcas, 12, Simeon 11, Elizabeth 5 years, given to Francis Downing, guardian, infant heirs of Mary Downing, deceased. Security: John and Joshua Foster. Sherry