This is long, a review of the LDS CD for those who are interested from Eastman's latest newsletter. I ordered this CD a couple weeks ago and was told it was backordered until late November. - Vital Records Index - North America on CD-ROM Are you researching ancestors in the United States or Canada? And are you looking for records before the year 1888? Finally, do you use a Windows 95, Windows 98 or Windows NT computer? If you answered "Yes" to all three of these questions, you need to read about a new CD-ROM disk set just released. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly referred to as "the Mormons," has now started shipping their new "Vital Records Index - North America" CD-ROM disk. This may well be the most important new CD-ROM of 1998 for anyone searching for ancestors within North America. The label on the disk set says, "These CDs contain information taken from a partial collection of birth, christening and marriage records of the United States and Canada. These records cover approximately 257 years, from 1631 to 1888, containing about 4 million names." For anyone new to genealogy, I should point out that the records of the Mormon Church are not limited to information about Mormons. They gather information from all the old public records they can find, regardless of the religious preferences of the people listed. You will find Protestants, Catholics, Jews and others all listed together, and you will rarely find any mention of the religion of the individuals mentioned. I had a chance to use the new CD-ROM set this week. I'm impressed. The following description of the data is extracted from the user's manual included on the CD-ROM disks: The Vital Records Index-North America on compact disc (CD) contains information taken from birth, christening and marriage records from selected states and provinces of the United States and Canada. Some names found in the Vital Records Index may also be found on the International Genealogical Index (IGI). This index includes: 1. Records that cover approximately from 1620 to 1888. 2. Approximately 5 million people on seven compact discs (six marriage CDs and one birth/christening CD). 3. The name of the individual, the parents' names when available, the date and place where the birth, christening, or marriage was registered, and the name of the individual's spouse. 4. Reference information that allows you to locate the original record on a microfilm. This index is not complete. Your ancestor may not appear here even though you know he or she lived in a time and place covered by the index. The Vital Records Index will continue to be updated, adding millions of new names with each update. Names in this index have been standardized, which means that variant name spellings are listed under a common name. For example, Smyth, Smithe, Smeith, would all be indexed under the name Smith. This allows you to search a name without knowing the exact spelling. However, you are still able to search under the exact spelling of an individual's name if you wish. These records are extracted records, which means that someone copied selected pieces of information from the original record. However, not all of the genealogically important information was extracted. Therefore, you should use the reference information provided in this index to locate the original record on microfilm and evaluate the original record yourself. This is not a complete index. Your ancestor may not appear here even though you know he or she lived in a time and place covered by the index. The Vital Records Index for North America will continue to be updated, adding millions of new names with each release. The following list provides a summary of the number of counties or places included within this index where records were extracted from within Canada and the United States. Canada Province # of Birth/Christening # of Marriage Collections Collections Extracted Manitoba 10 8 New Brunswick 3 3 Nova Scotia 2 5 Ontario 2 21 United States State # of Counties with # of Counties Birth/Christening Marriage records Records Alabama 6 51 Arkansas 3 37 California 0 2 Connecticut 5 5 District of Columbia 2 2 Florida 0 2 Georgia 32 135 Hawaii 1 1 Idaho 2 12 Illinois 37 46 Indiana 7 5 Iowa 41 61 Kansas 2 9 Kentucky 45 47 Louisiana 2 3 Maine 36 45 Maryland 33 26 Massachusettes 19 18 Michigan 12 11 Minnesota 9 5 Mississippi 4 71 Missouri 6 11 Montana 2 1 Nebraska 6 8 New Hampshire 1 1 New Jersey 37 60 New Mexico 18 15 New York 26 25 North Dakota 4 2 Ohio 23 18 Oklahoma 3 7 Oregon 0 6 Pennsylvania 47 35 Rhode Island 5 5 South Carolina 1 0 Tennessee 44 86 Texas 59 135 Washington 0 4 West Virginia 2 3 Wisconsin 8 4 Wyoming 0 8 Two apparent errors in the above list sort of "jumped out" at me. First, the obvious spelling error on "Massachusettes" seems like a simple typo error. However, I am confused by the statement that the records for Maine include 36 counties with birth/christening records and 45 counties with marriage records. That's a neat trick for a state that has only 16 counties! I don't have any explanation for that. However, when searching the CD-ROM for records from Maine, I did see entries from most of the 16 counties. Again, the CD-ROM does not cover all counties in all states and provinces. In fact, the records for Canada seem rather slim. Anyone researching French-Canadian ancestors will quickly note that there are no records from Quebec province on this set of disks. The coverage of the states that were settled first in the eastern United States seems good, but as you move westward the coverage becomes slimmer. When picking up the set for the first time, I was surprised to find that it is so big. The set fills 8 CD-ROM disks. One disk contains the "viewer" software; the other 7 disks all contain data. The label on the CD-ROM set cautions that the viewer software operates only on Windows 95 or Windows NT. I suspect it will operate on Windows 98 as well. There is no version for the Macintosh nor for Windows 3.1. The CD-ROM label also states that 8 megabytes of RAM memory is the minimum required to operate the software but that 16 megabytes or more is strongly recommended. I would expect that Windows NT would require still more memory. The rest of the requirements seem quite modest: a CD-ROM drive, a VGA monitor and video card supporting at least 256 colors, and at least 25 megabytes of disk space available. Most people will want a printer as well; the software will operate with any Windows- compatible printer. I tested the "Vital Records Index - North America" CD-ROMs on a Windows 95 system that had 16 megabytes of memory installed. Installing the software was a snap. It installs in the same manner as most other Windows programs. There is no printed manual included with the CD-ROMs; the manual is contained on the Viewer software disk. The user can read the manual on the screen or even print the entire thing on the local printer. I already have too much paper floating around, so I elected to not print it out. I didn't have much need to use the manual as the software seems easy to use. The few times that I did look at the manual on my screen, I was able to quickly find the information I was looking for. I quickly fired up the program and started searching for data. I entered my own surname and found hundreds of entries. I then narrowed the search to show only those records from the State of Maine. Again, the system displayed hundreds of records. I then narrowed the search further, first by year, then by first name. You can quickly narrow down the search to the specific areas of interest. You do end up "shuffling" the disks quite often in this set of multiple CD-ROM disk. You always start with data disk #1 inserted in the CD-ROM drive; apparently that disk contains the index. But, once you find a person in the index, continuing the search results in a message asking you to remove the current CD-ROM disk and to insert a different one. Keep in mind that this huge collection of records is an index. It does not have all the details of each event. Instead, it tells you where to find the details. For instance, here is the entry for my great-great-grandparents' marriage from the CD-ROM: EASTMAN, Washington H. Marriage Wife: Cynthia TYLER Marriage Date: 29 Mar 1831 Recorded in: Civil Records for Bangor, Penobscot, Maine Source: FHL Number 10584 Dates: 1864-1864 This entry from the CD-ROM says that a marriage record for two individuals on the given date does exist in the Civil Records for Bangor, Penobscot County, Maine. I can view a copy on the Family History Library's microfilm number 10584. The user's manual describes it this way: Source information is generally useful for locating the original record or a copy of the original record. The film numbers (FHL numbers) used in the source information apply only to the Family History Library and its branch libraries. Source information also includes information about the county, state or province the record was recorded in, the film the record is found in, the years covered within the film and occasionally, useful notes recorded by the original scribe Skipping over a few paragraphs of details, the user's manual continues: In most cases it is useful to see the original record from which the information found in the index was taken. The original record often contains additional information not found in the detail record. Sometimes, the person who was copying the information from the original record made mistakes. To find the original record, look in the detail pane of the record of the individual you are looking for. The Source field shows the Family History Library call number of the film, fiche, or book which contains a copy of the original record. The detail pane also shows the place where the record was originally recorded and the time span of the records in the film. Copies of most of the microfilms can be ordered for a small fee from one of more than 3,000 Family History Centers. Note: If you are using the Family History Resource File Viewer created by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, click on the button with a picture of a temple, located on the lower screen. It provides the names and locations of hundreds of Family History Centers throughout the world. I already know that I can easily order a 3-week rental of that microfilm by visiting a local Family History Center near me. A three-week rental costs about $4.00. You can search all the records in the Vital Records Index for birth and christening records as well as for marriage records of an individual person. Birth and christening records show a person's parents, birth date, and birthplace, and often give other information. Marriage records show the names of a bride and groom as well as when and where the marriage took place. Four sections of the Search screen allow you to provide information: the Search section, the Individual section, the Events (optional) section, and the Relatives (optional) section. Only the individual name information is required to do a search. For any given information, you may choose to search birth/christening records or marriage records. If you select Birth/Christening, the information pertaining to birth and christening records will be searched. If you select Marriage, the information pertaining to marriage records will be searched. When conducting a search for an individual, you must type either the given name(s) or the last name(s) of a person to do a search. First given names and surnames of individuals have been standardized to help find most variations of last name spellings. For example, the last name Smyth will be listed with Smith, Smithe, Smethe, etc. You can further limit a search by providing the date and place of an event. In fact, you can further limit the search by using the optional Relatives section. You can also specify the names of the father and mother for birth/christening records and the name of the spouse for marriage records. All of this detail-level searching is optional. If you don't specify the details, then you see all the records for the names that you entered. While I displayed only one record for my great-great-grandfather above, keep in mind that there are many options for records. You can select one record or a group of records. The group can be all the records of a certain name, all the records of certain years, all the records of a certain place, or any combination of the above. You can also add or delete individual records from a group. Individual records or groups of records can be printed on any Windows-compatible printer. In addition, records or groups of records, up to 100 at a time, can be can be saved as a GEDCOM (GEnealogical Data COMmunication) file. This allows you to export records from the index to your favorite genealogy program, assuming that it can read GEDCOM files (most programs do). Records from the Vital Records Index can be saved as an RTF (Rich Text Format for word processing) file. This allows you to export records from the index to a word processing package. I was able to save a group of all the Eastman records from Penobscot County, Maine and then import that data into Microsoft Word. I did not find any direct method of saving the data to a spreadsheet, something that I like to do. However, several of the better genealogy programs have the capability to import a GEDCOM file and then to create a spreadsheet file. For example, I was able to create a GEDCOM file from data on the CD-ROM, import it into The Master Genealogist, and then use that program to create a spreadsheet from the data. Unlike some other genealogy CD-ROM disks that I have described in recent weeks, the Vital Records Index-North America viewer software does support the Windows Clipboard in the same manner as most other Windows programs. I was able to copy data from the CD- ROM and then paste it into this newsletter using the normal cut- and-paste commands. The viewer software CD-ROM has a couple of "extra goodies" not mentioned in the manual: it has information about why the Mormons are so interested in genealogy. It also contains a listing of all the local LDS Family History Centers in the United States, Canada, the British Isles, Scandinavia, Europe, Australia and New Zealand. This particular set of CD-ROM disks is probably the biggest release of North American GENEALOGY records in electronic format of the year. So how much does it cost? You won't believe this: the price is $19.00 U.S. funds. That's not much money for seven data CD-ROM disks and another disk with the software and users' manual! I'll bet that Santa Claus delivers a lot of these disks this year. If you would like to purchase a copy of the "Vital Records Index - North America," call 800-537-5971 from the U.S. or Canada. Callers outside North America can call 1-801-240-1126. FAX orders may be set to 801-240-3685. You can specify a credit card number on any of these methods. Finally, you can send an order and a check by old-fashioned mail if you address the envelope to: Church Distribution Center 1999 West 1700 South Salt Lake City, Utah 84104-4233 U.S.A. When ordering, make sure that you specify "Item #50029, North American Vital Records Index (1620-1888)." Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com

This is from Dick Eastman's latest Genealogy newsletter: - Genealogy Web Site Sells Your Name and E-mail Address It's a tough world. Lots of businesses sell their customer lists these days. The result is that you get junk mail and marketing phone calls from all sorts of companies trying to sell you something you probably don't want. The newest twist is "spam mail", unwanted e-mails that advertise all sorts of junk. Now a well-known genealogy Web site is contributing to the spam mail that you receive and apparently is profiting from personal information that they obtain from you under the guise of helping you do genealogy research. In fact, the Web site apparently is a "front", as the main purpose seems to be gathering personal information about you and then selling that information. The Family Tree House Web site at http://www.usaafter.com claims that it is "the Association for FamilyTree Enrollment and Registry." The home page says, "This site offers free family tree software and links to key genealogy sites. The software is available on-line. You can build your FamilyTree House in real time, no downloading is required." They also say, "...you can create and register your own on-line FamilyTree. And because it is on-line, you can enlist the help of other family members by giving them your personal access code to allow them to fill in the missing branches--it's a project the whole family can participate in no matter where they live." On another page the site advises, "When requesting information, please make sure you include your name, mailing address and the information you would like." After they collect all the personal information from you and your other family members, the owners of Family Tree House apparently package the information and sell it to other companies that send junk mail or spam e-mails. On a different Web site, the owners of Family Tree House offer "a file of 33,600 last-12-month registrants of the Family Tree House, an association that offers Web site members free software and links to genealogy sites." The file they sell reportedly contains information about each person's date of birth, gender, e-mail address, state and ZIP code. The Web advertisement says that the file contains listings for 33,600 people who have left personal information on the Family Tree House site. To check for yourself, first look at http://www.usaafter.com and then look at: http://www.mediacentral.com/Magazines/DirectNewsline/Archive/1998100910.htm Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 98-11-01 18:32:44 EST, you write: << I am having trouble visualizing a Downing "cat" with arms; perhaps this is something like "doggerel" verse? >> Well, it has a Griffin, which is kinda like a stylized lion, which is a cat.......

(Continuing) Fourth Generation: Edward Downing (note that it appears in this generation where the change in the spelling of the surname took place from 'Downynge') was baptized 30 Apr 1625, and was buried 16 Dec 1683. He married Elizabeth Salter on 26 Mar 1654. They had the following children: Thomas, who married Grace Andrew 21 Sep 1684. Grace was buried 26 Jan 1715. Wilmote, (female), baptized 23 Dec 1666 William, baptized 6 Mar 1672. He married Agnes Savery 22 Dec 1700 Fifth Generation: Thomas Downing and Grace Andrew had three children: Wilmote (female), bap 13 Jan1685, d. 7 Jun 1685 (infant) Thomas, baptized 13 Jan 1688, buried 27 Jan 1688 (infant) Thomas, born 14 Dec 1691, baptized 6 Jan 1691/2. William Downing and Agnes Savery had two children: William Downing, baptized 13 Mar 1702 John Downing, baptized 19 Nov 1703, buried 8 Nov 1724 Sixth Generation: Thomas Downing was the immigrant who left Devonshire. He arrived in Philadelphia with his second wife, Thomazine Beer, about 1717, and settled on the Brandywine River, Chester county, Pennsylvania. There are numerous references to him in most books about Chester county, particularly: "Chester County and Its People", by W. W. Thomson, 1898 "History of Chester County", by J.S. Futhey and G. Cope "Chester & its Vicinity", by J. Martin The listing of the family of Thomas Downing and Thomazine Beer, again, are listed on my home page at <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/RDown3657/index.html">Home Page of Ray Downing </A> There's not much biographical information on the Devonshire Downings before the immigration of Thomas, sorry to say. Also, bear in mind that the dates appearing are generally baptism and burial dates from church records, and not birth and death dates. One may assume they're fairly close, however. I would be most interested to hear of any additional data anyone may have on this lineage from John Downynge (b.1530) to Thomas Downing (b. 1691), needless to say. Good hunting, all. Ray Downing,Las Vegas, NV

We have a Downing Cat of Arms entirely different than yours. It includes a helmet. Want to see it? I will copy it and mail it to you snail mail, if you want. Sue hodnett

Sue, Two of the daughters of William Downing, b. 1800-04 KY married Peter and John Miller. Their Mother was Catherine LEWIS and Peter and John Miller and his brothers all had the middle name of LEWIS. The 1st Miller of of this lineage was Christian Miller. They first settled in Chester Co., Pa. They were in Berks or Bucks Co., Pa. and Somerset Co., Pa. The Downing sisters married into the Miller family in Parke Co., Ind. The Millers came to Iowa in 1853. This family was Amish Menonnite. Ruby Waugh ---------- > From: Suehodnett@aol.com > To: DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DOWNING-L] Surnames interests > Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 7:49 AM > > I am still researching DOWNING, and HUTTON, and LEWIS connections; and a new > one HOBBS-DOWNING-WOOD. > > Sue Hodnett > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== >

The information on the Devonshire Downings comes from three sources, all of which confirm each other -- I have found no conflicting information in the papers of these three genealogists. They are: 1. "The Devonshire Downings", by John Perot, of Ardmore, PA, from the records reviewed by Charles Crosleigh, Vicar of Bradninch, in 1901-1903. 2. "The Downings, Pennsylvania Quakers", by Helen F. Snow, Madison, CT, written in 1961. 3. Research paper of Paula W. Lewis, Somerset, England, written for a Mr. Don White, of Caldwell, Kansas, 1983. First Generation: John Downynge, the first of record in these entries, was born in Bradninch, Devonshire, England, about 1530. He served, about 1555, as Mayor of Bradninch during the reign of Henry VIII. Earlier records, according to the Vicar of Bradninch, were destroyed in a fire that also partially destroyed the church. His son, Thomas Downynge, is the only known issue. Second Generation: Thomas Downynge, son of John, was baptized August 23, 1560, in Bradninch. He was buried July 10, 1618, at Bradninch, and had the following children: Dorothie, buried August 9, 1589. (died young) Grace, baptized September 20, 1590. m. Robert Miller 26 Jun 1619 Edwarde, baptized 9 Mar 1592. His wife, Devine, was buried 11 Sep 1639. John, baptized 3 Apr 1597, buried 9 Jan 1633. m. Judeth Weekes 15 Jan 1624 William, baptized 21 Dec 1600, d. 31 Dec 1632. Richard, m. Margarett Taylor 13 Jun 1639, who was buried 20 Jul 1669. Third Generation John Downynge, son of Thomas, was baptized 1597, and as above, married Judeth Weekes. They had the following children: Edwarde, baptized 30 Apr 1625, d. 16 Dec 1683. m. Elizabeth Salter 25 Mar 1654. Alice, baptized 16 Aug 1626, buried 3 May 1628 Mary, baptized 19 Oct 1628, m. George Saverry 13 Nov 1665 (Unknown), baptized 26 Sep 1630 John, baptized 20 Jan 1632, buried 10 Mar 1638 (Unknown), buried 24 Apr 1644 (To be continued)

Mickael requested the lineage of the "Devonshire Downings", who produced Thomas Downing (1691-1772), the immigrant who sailed from England to Pennsylvania, and the founder of Downingtown, PA. I thought I'd share it with the whole list, as it may be of direct interest to some....and moderate interest to the rest, who can use it in the "process of elimination" of the other Downing lines. There are, of course, several lines of this surname, not all connected, originating both in England and in Ireland. Documents I've received indicate there are two Coats of Arms that have been assigned the Downing surname. They are extremely similar, indicating there may have been a connection between the various families in different areas. The Arms are described, in heraldic language, as; "Barry of ten argent and vert over all a griffin segreant or." For those who have not seen it, I have included the Coat of Arms at the head of my web page at <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/RDown3657/index.html"> Home Page of Ray Downing</A> . The two Coats of Arms differ only by the Barry, the colored lines of silver and green (argent and vert). One has ten lines; the other, eight. I do not know which belongs to which family line; if anyone has researched this area, I'd love to hear what your research has turned up. I'll start the lineage of "The Devonshire Downings" in the next e-mail; it may take me several separate e-mails as I don't like to make them too lengthy, as some e-mail servers are limited in space. Stay tuned! Ray in Las Vegas

I am still researching DOWNING, and HUTTON, and LEWIS connections; and a new one HOBBS-DOWNING-WOOD. Sue Hodnett

info from Maryland Historical Society, joe >Return-Path: <> >To: jdown@nettally.com >From: library@mdhs.org >Reply-To: library@mdhs.org >Subject: Re: obtaining rw mss info >Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:01:15 -0500 > >Thank you for your recent e-mail inquiry regarding research at the >Library of the Maryland Historical Society. We will search our card >catalogue for a specific title, author, etc. but cannot provide any >research without first receiving payment. Therefore, please advise us of >your mailing address, and we ill send you our "4-Part Research Form" >outlining our fees and procedures. > >The Library of the Maryland Historical Society will be closed during the >week of November 2 through November 7, 1998. >

There are several relatives listed in the information you sent me. I am very grateful. I had no idea my family has been in Chester County, PA for so long. I have a branch off of Thomas Downing's line that follows a son named William. From this branch, I see a Jane Downing (g-dau of Thomas & Thomazine) who married into the Moore family, which I suspect to be the original owners of the 2000 acres Thomas Downing bought upon immigration. Facinating! Thank you very much, again. I will post this to the list server for general display. Mickael PS Thank you Sherry Kaseberg

>>From Rev Patriots of Frederick Co,MD by Peden: >Arthur & Thomas Chenoweth and Timothy Downing are shown as Pvts in the >Skipton Dist. militia on 16Apr1776. >Original source is Md Hist Soc Mss Ms1814, RW Collection, Md Hist Soc Mss >Div. Does anyone have or have access to this Mss collection and the citation? >Skipton Dist. was in area of what is now Old Town,Md. in Allegany Co. >joe > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > > Notes from Sherry's Chenoweth - Downing files: By typing in Chenoweth Genealogy a website can be reached: Chenoweth Background, a discussion about who John Chenoweth was, who Mary Calvert was, references to published Chenoweth genealogies and histories, Chenoweth disputes. Other Chenoweth sources include: Maryland Rev.Records 1938 by Newman John Chenoweth Sgt Maryland Line, wife applied for pension Thomas Chenoweth wife applied for pension Marriages proved through MD pension applications incl John Chenoweth-Mary Buskirk 1793 Shelby co kY Rev War service from other states proved in pension applications, Richard Chenoweth, Capt, KY The Chenowith Family by AC Chenowith 1894 Chenowith History by Cora Chenowith Hiatt 1925 History of Virginia 1800-1803, John Bush Hist of Sangamon Co IL 1881 Chenowith Family by Arthur Keith (spelling?) of Northfield MN, no date Frederick Co VA Deed Book 7 July 1761 Shelby Co KY Marriages Virginia censuses Warren Co OH Will Index Book I Catalog of Rev WAr Soldiers by Wilson Warrant #1027 John Chinworth 100 acres Private 3 years warrant dated 1783 No Downings listed. 1880 Hist of Franklin and Pickaway Cos OH p 433 Pleasant Tp, Franklin Co OH first settlers in S part, brothers Thomas and Elijah Chenoweth natives of MD who went to Pike Co then to Franklin Co Pleasant Tp in 1799, 200 acres each near Harrisburgh. Elijah m Rachel Foster; thomas m Cassandra Foster. First white child born to Elijah and Rachel who were among the earliest marriages; first burials were on the Chenoweth farm near Elijah's home, Thomas Chenoweth had first orchard. Joseph Chenoweth had a mercantile firm in Franklin Co Pleasant Tp; F. Chenoweth had a grocery in 1880. Methodist meetings were held in the log house of Thomas and Elijah Chenoweth, including Benjamin Foster and wife, and the Chenoweth families. First school about 1811...Kerr, Foster and Chenoweth families. Pike Co OH marriages 1782/1790 Hampshire Co VA census John Chenoweth Sr. 13white 0black Arthur Chenoweth 7-0 Dillon Downing 3-0 Jonathan Chinoth 4-0 1784 Hampshire Co VA Jonathan Cheneworth 6 John Chenoweth 5 John Chenoweth 11 1810 Virginia Census, all in Frederick County William Chenowith 210102101000 Enoch Calvert Jesse Calvert Wm. Chenowith 121012121000 Rezin Downing 101000010000 James Downing 011010100100. Clark Co OH 1810 Tax List Absolem Chinoweth William Chinoweth Thomas B. Chinoweth 1816 Pike co OH Tax List Abraham Chenoweth Arthur Chenoweth Richard Chenoweth John Chenoweth Absalom Chenoweth Mesheek Downing George Downing Pike Co OH marriages: Joseph Chenoweth - Isabel Bristel 1816. Arthur Chenoweth, attorney, performed some marriages here. A National Genealogical Society Quarterly in 1988 had a query from Glenda Gardner Lloyd, 9519 Tremont Ct., Orangevale CA 95662 asking about Arthur Chenoweth b MD 1755 and moved to KY then Pike/Ross Co OH and d 1821, married Elizabeth and Susanna. Rose Marie Purcell of Sacramento CA researched the Chenoweths...John > Arthur 1716-1802 > Richard 1744 MD-1828 Knoxville, TN...no date of her query, no source.

The address of the Maryland Archives is: http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/ The address of the Maryland Historical Society is: http://www.mdhs.org I mucked around for awhile without any luck. In the Maryland Archives I searched for Skipton [waste] and Maryland Historical Society [268 hits]. I searched on Peden but it turns out there are several folks by that name. There is a search engine for the Maryland Historical Society manuscripts but... Perhaps you'll understand it better than I did. Cheryl Rothwell Logan County Coordinator, US GENWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm owner, Downing mailing list owner, Logan County mailing list

Surname Helper is back up -- better and faster. Try this: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html You can search ALL the USGENWeb sites for surnames or select your search criteria. Cheryl Rothwell Logan County Coordinator, US GENWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm owner, Downing mailing list owner, Logan County mailing list

At 12:45 PM 10/29/98 EST, you wrote: >If anyone is still looking: > >In Sep/Oct Everton's Helper, page 53, an ad: >Downings of Europe and America >Volume I & II ea. HB $45.00 > set $95.00 >Gregath Publishing Co. >Box 505 >Wyandotte, OK 74370 >www.gregathcompany.com > >Visa and Mastercard accepted! > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== >What Downing resources do you own? Tell us. > Dear Listers, I have looked for Vol. 2 of Gregath's book but have never found it. Anyone know if it was indeed published? Marlene Marlene DiGiovanni MarleneDiGi@prodigy.net

>From Rev Patriots of Frederick Co,MD by Peden: Arthur & Thomas Chenoweth and Timothy Downing are shown as Pvts in the Skipton Dist. militia on 16Apr1776. Original source is Md Hist Soc Mss Ms1814, RW Collection, Md Hist Soc Mss Div. Does anyone have or have access to this Mss collection and the citation? Skipton Dist. was in area of what is now Old Town,Md. in Allegany Co. joe

Maybe the right one. The furthest name back I have is a John Downing, born in Bradninch, Devon, Eng. 1534, and his wife (without a first name), born 1538 at the same place. His son was Thomas Downing, b. 1580 (where?) and the Grandson was John b. 1597 Married to Judith Weekes. I have nothing further back, but I would would to have more life facts on any of the decendants or antecedants. Thank you. Mickael

If anyone is still looking: In Sep/Oct Everton's Helper, page 53, an ad: Downings of Europe and America Volume I & II ea. HB $45.00 set $95.00 Gregath Publishing Co. Box 505 Wyandotte, OK 74370 www.gregathcompany.com Visa and Mastercard accepted!

I know the line of Joseph and Jemima Woodward Downing; so far there is no evidnece that will link them to ours. Joseph was in Md at the sametime my earliest ancestor was there, Francis Downing, born 1736 Yorkshire. All these downings in the same place at the same time, but can't relate them! Sue Hodnett

Suehodnett@aol.com wrote: > > Jim, > Thank you. How do I become a member of NEGHS? > > Sue Hodnett Sue, I didn't catch the error until after I hit the send button. It should have been NEHGS for New England Historical and Genealogical Society. They have a nice web page at: http://www.nehgs.org/ Jim Downing Sarasota, FL