What did you think of the PAY and Poe families? That was a case of my not proof reading very well. Ruby Waugh ---------- > From: carl waugh <jakec@netins.net> > To: DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DOWNING-L] Day > Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 4:21 PM > > Cherly, > Do you know if Timothy Downing was a Quaker? In the Day-Poe database I > mentioned, it was stated that the Pay and Poe families were Quakers from > Pa. > Ruby Waugh > > ---------- > > From: clrothwell@mindspring.com > > To: DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [DOWNING-L] Day > > Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 4:40 AM > > > > Thanks. I'll have a look at the Day-Poe database. > > > > > > Cheryl Rothwell > > clrothwell@mindspring.com > > Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm > > Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Downing query board> > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing > > Lucas query board> > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas > > > > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ====
The Downingtown, PA Downings were Quakers. Many of the Downing associates in Maryland were evidently Quakers, but I agree with Cheryl, I have seen no evidence that Timothy was one. joe >AFAIK Timothy Downing was NOT a Quaker. Joe has just found evidence, in >fact, that he fought in the Revolutionary War. > >There is a persistent story in the family that the Downings were Quakers. >However, I come from about four Downing lines that I'm aware of so I don't >know which line that would be. > > >Cheryl Rothwell >clrothwell@mindspring.com > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > > >
I read about the Day and Poe families, thought perhaps I found Thomas Day -- until I read he died in the War of 1812. He's not important -- I'm just curious. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com
AFAIK Timothy Downing was NOT a Quaker. Joe has just found evidence, in fact, that he fought in the Revolutionary War. There is a persistent story in the family that the Downings were Quakers. However, I come from about four Downing lines that I'm aware of so I don't know which line that would be. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com
Cherly, Do you know if Timothy Downing was a Quaker? In the Day-Poe database I mentioned, it was stated that the Pay and Poe families were Quakers from Pa. Ruby Waugh ---------- > From: clrothwell@mindspring.com > To: DOWNING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DOWNING-L] Day > Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 4:40 AM > > Thanks. I'll have a look at the Day-Poe database. > > > Cheryl Rothwell > clrothwell@mindspring.com > Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator > http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm > Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com > Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com > Downing query board> > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing > Lucas query board> > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas > > > ==== DOWNING Mailing List ====
In a message dated 12/29/98 4:57:43 PM PST, clrothwell@mindspring.com writes: << There is a persistent story in the family that the Downings were Quakers. >> The line of descendants of Thomas Downing, who arrived in Philadelphia in 1717, from Devonshire, England, and settled in nearby Chester county, PA, were all Quakers, largely up through the mid 1800's. The town of Downingtown, PA, was named after Thomas. Ray
Besides, my Downings were Purtians from New England Linda
The Downings from Downingtown, Chester County, Pennsylvania were Quakers at one time. Remember that Quakers didn't always grow up to be Quakers for various reasons. One was to join the Patriot cause during the Rev - as my raised Quaker William Moore at the age of 18 who ran off to join Washington's army after the Battle of Brandywine. Also, if you married your cousin (a common occurance back in the 1700's and 1800's) you were discharged from the Quaker circle. Also if you moved west further than a meeting, you might just go to the closest house of worship - a lot of times non-denominational because you were just glad when a circuit rider stopped by once or twice a year. Linda
Thanks. Sam did marry Margaret Matthews and later Mary Day Matthews. Her first husband was named Thomas Day and Samuel Day is their son [both per Samuel Downing's Bible]. Thomas Day died March 6, 1822, also according to the Bible. That part I have. I wondered if that Samuel Day is the same Samuel Day who married into yet another branch of the Timothy Downing line. In Sam's Bible he gives birth dates for Margaret and Mary's siblings John, Thomas, William and [I can't make it out but from your post perhaps it is Sarah!!!]. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas
>>an added item, thomas day married polly mathews 5 Apr 1821, so birth date >>for Samuel would jibe, joe > >Except that he married MARY Matthews. <g> I'm sure it is the same. Perhaps >they called her Polly? I've never seen that though and she is my >ggggrandmother. Again I note that they didn't spell Matthews the way the >Matthews family did. > >Do you have book of Pike County, OH, marriages? > >Cheryl Rothwell >clrothwell@mindspring.com >Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator >http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm >Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com >Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com >Downing query board> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing >Lucas query board> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > > Polly is a nickname for Mary. Sherry
>i show Samuel Downing to Mary Day 16 May 1837, i don't show the other >marriage, joe > > >>In Pike County, OH, I have Timothy-George-Samuel m. Mary Matthews Day, a >>widow with a son Samuel b. March 6, 1822. Father's name Thomas Day. >> >>Also in Pike County, OH, I have the same Timothy-John-Rosena [b. 1829] m. >>Samuel Day. >> >>Does anyone know if we have the same Samuel Day in both cases? >> >>Cheryl Rothwell >>clrothwell@mindspring.com >>Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm >>Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com >>Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com >>Downing query board> >>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing >>Lucas query board> >>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas >> >> >>==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== >> >> >> > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== >What Downing resources do you own? Tell us. > Cheryl, I believe Mary Matthews Day was Samuel D. Downing's sister-in-law, sister of Margaret Matthews his first wife whom he married in Pike Co OH 8 January 1818 and with whom he had six children: George, Sarah, Elizabeth, Thomas, Mary Jane and Samuel Wesley. By his 16 May 1837 marriage to Mary Matthews Day he had two children: Willian Nelson and John Clark. Mary's first husband is said to have drowned...and his name may be Samuel Day. In an unidentified Hancock Co OH history: "Two other settlers of 1834 were Seymour Hastings and John Mathews. The former located in Section 14, south of Blanchard....Mathews came from Pike County, Ohio, and settled north of the river. It is said that he never owned land here, and died in the township. " There is a George Mathews deed in Pike Co OH 1801; and deeds for Ezekiel Mathews 1832, John Mathews 1836 and William in 1851. Joint owners of land in Pike Co OH, thomas, William, Sarah, and Mary Mathews sold land in 1841. And that is all I know about the Mathews except for material in Logan County, IL printed materials, and I don't know if there is a connection. Sherry
i got mine a few years ago from the pike co chapter of the ohio genealogical society, i don't have their address but it is probably on the pike co gen web page, joe >I didn't know Polly was a common nickname for Mary. Learn something new >every day. > >Is the Pike County marriage book available somewhere? Looks like it might >be useful to me. > > > > >Cheryl Rothwell >clrothwell@mindspring.com >Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator >http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm >Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com >Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com >Downing query board> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing >Lucas query board> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== >Space for this list is provided by Rootsweb.com, working to keep online genealogy free for everyone. > >
Thanks. I'll have a look at the Day-Poe database. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas
To Joe and Cheryll, Here is a URL # for Day and Poe ancestors: chandra.bgsu.edu/~stoner/gen/daypoe.htm David Day, son of Matthew and Mary Felle listed on pages 4 and 6 was my GGGrandfather and father to Jane Day that m. James Harvey Downing in Putnam Co., Ind. Thomas Day listed on page 6 b. 1793 and page 7. If URL doesn't work, go to Alta Vista search and type in Day and Poe Ancestors Ruby Waugh, Iowa.
In some random research I used Peter Wilson Coldham's books such as "English Convicts in Colonial America," "Bonded Passengers to America" and "Bristol Records of Servants to America." There are plenty of Downings in all. These books are probably in your local library. Be careful what you search for. You might find your immigrant ancestor was a horse thief! <g> Actually, probably not. They would have hung a horse thief. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas
In a message dated 12/28/98 4:35:58 PM PST, MossLJ@aol.com writes: << In naming children, given names were not always the names the children were known as. >> Boy, you got that right. A great grandaunt of mine was baptized Sarah Ellen Downing. Her sister's will refers to her as Ellie Sallie Downing. Her death certificate calls her Ella S. Downing as does her grave marker, and "Genealogy of the Palmer-Trimble Families" calls her Ellie Sarah Downing. But she came from a family of 12 children, and I reckon Mom and Pop Downing used to just say, "Hey, you!" <g> I'm sure we all have horror stories about just how to name an ancestor on the old computer database, huh? Ray Downing, Las Vegas
I didn't know Polly was a common nickname for Mary. Learn something new every day. Is the Pike County marriage book available somewhere? Looks like it might be useful to me. Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas
Hey Downing group - just a little about names: In naming children, given names were not always the names the children were known as. Some names had specific "nicknames" such as: Mary was known as Polly Martha went by Patty Ann was Nancy etc. Linda Moss
yes, that is from Pike Co marriage book, Polly was a common nickname for Mary tho!, joe >>an added item, thomas day married polly mathews 5 Apr 1821, so birth date >>for Samuel would jibe, joe > >Except that he married MARY Matthews. <g> I'm sure it is the same. Perhaps >they called her Polly? I've never seen that though and she is my >ggggrandmother. Again I note that they didn't spell Matthews the way the >Matthews family did. > >Do you have book of Pike County, OH, marriages? > >Cheryl Rothwell >clrothwell@mindspring.com >Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator >http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm >Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com >Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com >Downing query board> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing >Lucas query board> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas > > >==== DOWNING Mailing List ==== > > >
>an added item, thomas day married polly mathews 5 Apr 1821, so birth date >for Samuel would jibe, joe Except that he married MARY Matthews. <g> I'm sure it is the same. Perhaps they called her Polly? I've never seen that though and she is my ggggrandmother. Again I note that they didn't spell Matthews the way the Matthews family did. Do you have book of Pike County, OH, marriages? Cheryl Rothwell clrothwell@mindspring.com Logan County, ILGenWeb, coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~illogan/loindex.htm Logan County mailing list> LOGAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing mailing list> DOWNING-L-request@rootsweb.com Downing query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Downing Lucas query board> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Lucas