This reminds me of the McCarthy days in the 50's that my folks talked about. Carolyn What logical reason is on the plate that says President Obama is a communist???? I haven't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tISe-zEWN9M

What is the difference between socialism and communism? Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems of production for use based on public ownership of the means of production and centralized planning. Socialism grows directly out of capitalism; it is the first form of the new society. Communism is a further development or "higher stage" of socialism. >From each according to his ability, to each according to his deeds (socialism). From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs (communism). The socialist principle of distribution according to deeds— that is, for quality and quantity of work performed, is immediately possible and practical. On the other hand, the communist principle of distribution according to needs is not immediately possible and practical—it is an ultimate goal. Obviously, before it can be achieved, production must reach undreamed of heights—to satisfy everyone’s needs there must be the greatest of plenty of everything. In addition, there must have developed a change in the attitude of people toward work—instead of working because they have to, people will work because they want to, both out of a sense of responsibility to society and because work satisfies a felt need in their own lives. Socialism is the first step in the process of developing the productive forces to achieve abundance and changing the mental and spiritual outlook of the people. It is the necessary transition stage from capitalism to communism. It must not be assumed, from the distinction between socialism and communism, that the political parties all over the world which call themselves Socialist advocate socialism, while those which call themselves Communist advocate communism. That is not the case. Since the immediate successor to capitalism can only be socialism, the Communist parties,-like the Socialist parties, have as their goal the establishment of socialism. Are there, then, no differences between the Socialist and Communist parties? Yes, there are. The Communists believe that as soon as the working class and its allies are in a position to do so they must make a basic change in the character of the state; they must replace capitalist dictatorship over the working class with workers’ dictatorship over the capitalist class as the first step in the process by which the existence of capitalists as a class (but not as individuals) is ended and a classless society is eventually ushered in. Socialism cannot be built merely by taking over and using the old capitalist machinery of government; the workers must destroy the old and set up their own new state apparatus. The workers’ state must give the old ruling class no opportunity to organize a counter-revolution; it must use its armed strength to crush capitalist resistance when it arises. The Socialists, on the other hand, believe that it is possible to make the transition from capitalism to socialism without a basic change in the character of the state. They hold this view because they do not think of the capitalist state as essentially an institution for the dictatorship of the capitalist class, but rather as a perfectly good piece of machinery which can be used in the interest of whichever class gets command of it. No need, then, for the working class in power to smash the old capitalist state apparatus and set up its own—the march to socialism can be made step by step within the framework of the democratic forms of the capitalist state. The attitude of both parties toward the Soviet Union grows directly out of their approach to this problem. Generally speaking, Communist parties praise the Soviet Union; Socialist parties denounce it in varying degrees. For the Communists, the Soviet Union merits the applause of all true believers in socialism because it has transformed the socialist dream into a reality; for the Socialists, the Soviet Union deserves only condemnation because it has not built socialism at all—at least not the socialism they dreamed of. Instead of wanting to take away people’s private property, socialists want more people to have more private property than ever before. There are two kinds of private property. There is property which is personal in nature, consumer’s goods, used for private enjoyment. Then there is the kind of private property which is not personal in nature, property in the means of production. This kind of property is not used for private enjoyment, but to produce the consumer’s goods which are. Socialism does not mean taking away the first kind of private property, e.g. your suit of clothes; it does mean taking away the second kind of private property, e.g. your factory for making suits of clothes. It means taking away private property in the means of production from the few so that there will be much more private property in the means of consumption for the many. That part of the wealth which is produced by workers and taken from them in the form of profits would be theirs, under socialism, to buy more private property, more suits of clothes, more furniture, more food, more tickets to the movies. More private property for use and enjoyment. No private property for oppression and exploitation. That’s socialism. Huberman and Sweezy, "Introduction to Socialism," Monthly Review

McCarthy Trials and Salem Witch Trials McCarthy Trials Similar to Salem Witch Trials There are many similarities between the McCarthy Trials and the Salem Witch Trials. The McCarthy Trials consisted of victims being accused for communist acts and many were arrested for suspicion of communism. In Hollywood many figures of the film industry were arrested because of the red scare. Many were also blacklisted and were not able to act in the film industry. In The Crucible, paranoia also led to suspicion of neighbors and friends for use of witchcraft and accused others for suspicion of witchcraft. Arthur Miller attended a meeting about how people saw communism and their perspective of communism. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Csg228@aol.com> To: <down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com>; <Down-Home-Chatter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [DOWN-HOME-CHATTER] Bush vs Obama > This reminds me of the McCarthy days in the 50's that my folks talked > about. > Carolyn > > What logical reason is on the plate that says President Obama is a > communist???? I haven't seen it. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DOWN-HOME-CHATTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.89/2360 - Release Date: 09/10/09 11:29:00

Here is the cost of Bush's service in office.... Cost of the Bush era: $11.5 trillion. Does anyone know Obama's in 9 months? Obama inherited 2 wars when he took office and people screaming I want health care. He is trying to build one. Seems he and McCain have been talking about health care...and what if Ted Kennedy had lived and helped with the plan.... What logical reason is on the plate that says President Obama is a communist???? I haven't seen it. Milly WARD Piros We do not inherit the land from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children. Native American Proverb

Yep me too but think of the fuel bill we as tax payers have to pay plus the secreat service to gard them.....In a recession?????.....He takes the cake as the most wasteful president ever.......Jenny Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: MPiros1120@aol.com<mailto:MPiros1120@aol.com> To: down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com<mailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [DOWN-HOME-CHATTER] Obama projects $900 billion to fix healthcare - Heal... He can send me to England for Fish & Chips..I love them. But have to settle for Arthur Treacher's Milly WARD Piros We do not inherit the land from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children. Native American Proverb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DOWN-HOME-CHATTER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:DOWN-HOME-CHATTER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jenny wrote:::Milly I found a lot of mail from DHC ad several other sites I am on in my junk mail bin......Server problems I guess.....Jenny Anne Yes Jenny it will be your server placing your email in your junk mail folder Milly WARD Piros We do not inherit the land from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children. Native American Proverb

From: "makekaus" <makekaus@aol.com> I for one don't want a government run health care plan. Then maybe we should all send back all the Social Security payments, Veteran Benefits, Medicare, or any other government subsidized housing, food stamps, or government aid that people use now days. That is all government run. June

They all are working for re election they all are not trust worthy up there . In a message dated 9/10/2009 3:04:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, makekaus@aol.com writes: He is interested in re election that's what he is interested in. Shirley H

What was well spoken?...Must have been an e-mail I never got......Jenny Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: MPiros1120@aol.com<mailto:MPiros1120@aol.com> To: down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com<mailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [DOWN-HOME-CHATTER] Did anyone watch Well spoken, Carolyn Milly WARD Piros We do not inherit the land from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children. Native American Proverb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DOWN-HOME-CHATTER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:DOWN-HOME-CHATTER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In one way he did and one way he diden't ...He's slick......There is a statement in the plan saying illigals are not to be treated but also says any who is ill can be treated......What do you do to find out if they are illegal?...They use each others identy left and right.....Like I said there are enough loop holes in this plan like cherrios...The Dems vote down every plan to close the loopholes.....We Need something but not the plan they have.....I bet it passes though because that guy that spoke his feelings and probally the truth, makes anyone against the bill look like a hothead......Milly I found a lot of mail from DHC ad several other sites I am on in my junk mail bin......Server problems I guess.....Jenny Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: MPiros1120@aol.com<mailto:MPiros1120@aol.com> To: down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com<mailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: [DOWN-HOME-CHATTER] I want to know..... Jenny So what did President Obama lie about????He wants to work with the republicans to get a health plan. Milly WARD Piros We do not inherit the land from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children. Native American Proverb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DOWN-HOME-CHATTER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:DOWN-HOME-CHATTER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 9/10/2009 8:57:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, MPiros1120@aol.com writes: June I know you watched last night. I did also and listened to each word carefully. I still will stick with the President June, Milly - I watched an it did make since to me. I want to see some changes made & will write & call my congressman & senators. I attented two town hall meetings. Bob Corker helt his in Scott Co. Linclon Davis had his in Campbell CO & both of them sounded as if they were running their campaigns for the next election. Shirley Bragg Cherish yesterday, Dream tomorrow, Live today.

In a message dated 9/10/2009 12:05:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, samgospel@yahoo.com writes: Yes! This is True! Shirley H, this did really happened. It was no error on the part of the scanner(debit card) Shirley Bragg Cherish yesterday, Dream tomorrow, Live today.

No June I don't and I diden't mean this as a hateful e-mail....I only meant we all should be able to speak and not have to worry about hurting someones feelings.....I do like to read and hear both side of this political health thing....One reason I never did politics for a living , like some of my family, is to do so means you gotta hurt someone....I don't want to be one who is hurt this time though.....If Washington don't fix a lot of what they are doing there are gonna be only poor folks in this USA......I am not rich and now I guess I am kinda below stantards for middle class but I sure don't want to give away what little we have worked for all our lives so someone else can be better off for aday.....Then the next day me and those others would be looking for a handout.....This could only go on so long anyway before we all would be sunk as in drowned.....Jenny Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: june<mailto:hjfore@windstream.net> To: down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com<mailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [DOWN-HOME-CHATTER] Work together Jenny, Do you really think sharing hateful emails is going to make one iota of change in what is enacted in Washington DC? June ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Beams" <hippsters11@msn.com<mailto:hippsters11@msn.com>> To: <down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com<mailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [DOWN-HOME-CHATTER] Work together > June, you're wrong we do read these letters....This is one way of working > together, sharring opinions. .....If there were only one this thing would > not be hard to ge t done anyway and there would be no arguments, but that > is part of what makes America great.....Kinda like the guy from SC being > able to speak up......A lot of people object.....Maybe the setting was > wrong but I fully believe that everyone , no matter their race ,politics > etc has that right to say what they please or think........The way this > health carw bill has more loop holes in it than a box of cherrios....It's > dangerous for us all......Jenny Anne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: june<mailto:hjfore@windstream.net<mailto:hjfore@windstream.net>> > To: down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com<mailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com<mailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:23 AM > Subject: [DOWN-HOME-CHATTER] Work together > > > Instead of just standing and yelling and writing emails that no one reads > these people should stand up and work with the people who are trying > to work out a health care plan that will benefit us all. > Bad mouthing people on the internet does NO good at all. > > June. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "makekaus" <makekaus@aol.com<mailto:makekaus@aol.com<mailto:makekaus@aol.com%3Cmailto:makekaus@aol.com>>> > To: > <down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com<mailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com<mailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com%3Cmailto:down-home-chatter@rootsweb.com>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:40 AM > Subject: [DOWN-HOME-CHATTER] The People Are Coming > > > >I am one of the one million people who signed the petition that was > >delivered to the white house today protesting Obama's health care plan.. > >and I thought some of you might find that this letter below hits the > nail > >right on the head.. I couldn't have said it better! > > Shirley H > > > > > > This lady has it nailed. We need more like her and all of you. Lets > stop > > this runaway government. Read it all and get inspired. We are the > > people. They work for us. > > > > This affects all of us, all parties. > > > > Subject: We The People Are Coming. Janet Contreras, 53 Year Old Woman > In > > Arizona > > > > The following letter read on Glenn Beck's show is rapidly circulating > > around the country. Many Americans everywhere identify with this 53 > year > > old woman. She has given us a voice. > > Please forward to your friends. > > June 18, 2009 10:01 PM > > > > The woman who sent the long email letter below to Glenn Beck made her > > name > > known to him in a telephone interview the next night. She is Janet > > Contreras, a 53 year old woman in Arizona, a citizen fed up with the > > House, > > Senate, Administration, Democrats, Republicans. > > > > During the interview she said "I don't want this. I don't want this > > fight, Glenn. I don't have the time, energy or financial resources for > it > > but that no longer matters. It no longer matters if I'm able or if I > want > > this fight. I have to take it on. It's not a matter of choice > anymore, > > which is why I wrote the letter." > > > > "The other part of this is that the invisible people who can and do > > represent my views need to come out of the shadows. I don't know who > they > > are. They're going to get washed away with the rest of them if they > don't > > have the courage to stand up against the Administration and those > members > > of > > the House and Senate who are destroying our country and our values." > > > > Janet Contreras > > Phoenix, Arizona > > Her Letter is below. > > > > > > June 17, 2009 Glenn read this email letter on his Glenn Beck Show. > She > > identified herself in a phone call the next night as Janet Contreras > from > > Arizona. > > > > GLENN BECK: I got a letter from a woman in Arizona. She writes an > open > > letter to our nation's leadership: > > > > I am a home grown American citizen, 53, registered Democrat all my > life. > > Before the last presidential election I registered as a Republican > because > > I > > no longer felt the Democratic Party represents my views or works to > pursue > > issues important to me. Now I no longer feel the Republican Party > > represents my views or works to solve issues important to me. The fact > is > > I > > no longer feel any political party or representative in Washington > > represents my views or works to solve the issues important to me. > > > > There must be someone. Please tell me who you are. Please stand up > and > > tell me you are there and you are willing to fight for our Constitution > as > > it was written. Please stand up now. You might ask what are my views > and > > issues that I feel so horribly disenfranchised by both major political > > parties. Well, these briefly are my views and the issues for which I > seek > > representation: > > > > One -- Illegal Immigration. I want you to stop coddling illegal > > immigrants > > and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels. Stop the > violence > > and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty. Never again. > Been > > there, done that, no resolution. PS, I am not a racist. This isn't to > be > > confused with legal immigration. > > > > Two -- The TARP Bill. I want it repealed and I want no further funding > > supplied to it. We told you no, but you did it anyway. I want the > > remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal. TARP (Troubled Asset > > Relief Program). The Wall Street handout bill, under President Bush, > to > > address the subprime mortgage crisis, to purchase or insure up to $700 > > billion of "troubled" assets. > > > > Three -- Czars. I want the circumvention of our checks and balances > > stopped immediately. Fire the 37 czars. No more czars. Government > > officials answer to the process, not to the president. Stop trampling > on > > our Constitution and honor it. > > > > Four -- Cap And Trade. The debate on global warming is not over. > There > > is > > more to say. > > > > Five -- Universal Health Care. I will not be rushed into another > > expensive > > decision. Don't you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night > and > > go > > on break. Slow down. > > > > > > Six -- Growing Government Control. I want States Rights and > sovereignty > > fully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. Shrink > it > > down. Mind your own business. You have enough to take care of with > your > > real obligations. Start there. > > > > Seven -- ACORN. I do not want ACORN and its affiliates in charge of > our > > 2010 census. I also want them investigated. I also do not want > mandatory > > escrow fees contributed to them on every real estate deal that > closes. > > Stop the funding to ACORN and its affiliates pending impartial audits > and > > investigations. I do not trust them taking the census over with our > > taxpayer money. I want all our money to them stopped. Face up to the > > allegations against them and get them resolved before getting any more > > involved with them. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, > hello. > > Stop protecting your political buddies. You work for us, the people. > > Investigate. > > > > Eight -- Redistribution Of Wealth. No, no, no. I work for my money. > It > > is mine. I have always worked for people with more money than I have > > because they gave me jobs. That is the only redistribution of wealth > that > > I > > will support. I never got a job from a poor person. Why do you want > me > > to > > hate my employers? Why? What do you have against shareholders making > a > > profit? > > > > Nine -- Charitable Contributions. Although I never got a job from a > poor > > person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local > > communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent > and > > local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves. > > > > Ten -- Corporate Bailouts. Knock it off. Sink or swim like the rest > of > > us. If there are hard times ahead we'll be better off just getting > into > > it > > and letting the strong survive. Quick and painful. Have you ever > ripped > > off a BandAid? We will pull together. Great things happen in America > > under > > great hardship. Give us the chance to innovate. We cannot disappoint > you > > more than you have disappointed us. > > > > Eleven -- Transparency And Accountability. How about it? No, really, > how > > about it? Let's have it. Let's say we give the buzzwords a rest and > have > > some straight honest talk. Please try. Please stop manipulating and > > trying > > to appease me with clever wording. I am not the idiot you take me for. > > Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your > > friends. It will only be a prelude to criminal investigation of you. > > Stop > > hiding things from me. > > > > Twelve -- Unprecedented Quick Spending. Stop it now. Take a breath. > > Listen to the people. Let's just slow down and get some input from > some > > non > > politicians on the subject. Stop making everything an emergency. Stop > > speed reading our bills into law. > > > > I am not an activist. I am not a community organizer. Nor am I a > > terrorist, militant or violent person. I am a parent and grandparent. > I > > work. I'm busy. I'm busy and I'm tired. I thought we elected > competent > > people to take care of the business of government so we could work, > raise > > our families, pay our bills, have recreation, complain about taxes, > endure > > our hardships, pursue our goals, cut our lawn, wash our cars on > weekends, > > be > > responsible contributing members of society and teach our children to > be > > the > > same - all while living in the home of the free and land of the brave. > > > > I entrusted you with upholding the Constitution. I believed in the > checks > > and balances to keep from getting far off course. What happened? You > are > > very far off course. > > > > Do you really think I find humor in the hiring of a speed reader to > > unintelligently ramble through a bill you signed into law without > knowing > > what it contained? I do not. It is a mockery of the responsibility I > > have > > entrusted to you. It is a slap in the face. I am not laughing at your > > arrogance. > > > > Why is it that I feel you would not trust me to make a single decision > > about my own life and how I would live it, but you expect I should > trust > > you > > with the debt you have, without caring or conscience, laid on all of us > > and > > our children. We did not want the TARP bill. We said no. We would > > repeal > > it if we could. I am sure we still can. There is such urgency and > > recklessness in all of your recent spending. > > > >>From my perspective, it seems all of you have gone insane. I also know > I > > am far from alone in these feelings. Do you honestly feel your current > > pursuits have merit to patriotic Americans? We want it to stop. We > want > > to > > put the brakes on everything that is being rushed passed us and forced > > upon > > us. We want our voice back. You have forced us to put our lives on > hold > > to > > straighten out the mess you are making. > > > > We will have to give up our vacations, time spent with our children, > any > > relaxation time we may have had and money we cannot afford - to spend > on > > you > > - to bring our concerns to Washington. Our president knows all the > > buzzwords are unsustainable. No kidding. How many tens of thousands of > > dollars did the focus group cost to come up with those buzzwords? We > > don't > > want your overpriced words. Stop treating us like morons. > > > > We want all of you to stop focusing on your reelection and do the job > we > > want done, not the job you want done or the job your party wants done. > > You > > work for us and at this rate I guarantee you not for long - because we > are > > coming. We will be heard and we will be represented. > > > > You think we're so busy with our lives we will never come for you? We > are > > the former silent majority, all who quietly work, pay taxes, obey the > law, > > vote, save money, keep our noses to the grindstone - and we are now > > closely > > looking at you and the huge mess you created for all of us. You have > > awakened in us the patriotic spirit, so strong and so powerful that had > > been > > sleeping too long. You have pushed us too far. Our numbers are great. > > They will surprise you. For every one of us who come after you there > will > > be hundreds more who could not come. > > > > Unlike you we have their trust. We will represent them honestly. Rest > > assured they will be at the polls on voting day to usher you out of > > office. > > We have cancelled vacations. We will use our last few dollars saved. > We > > will find the representation among us and a grassroots campaign will > > flourish. We didn't ask for this fight. But the gloves are off. 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He can send me to England for Fish & Chips..I love them. But have to settle for Arthur Treacher's Milly WARD Piros We do not inherit the land from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children. Native American Proverb

Well spoken, Carolyn Milly WARD Piros We do not inherit the land from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children. Native American Proverb

I watch last night and I was embarrassed for our country with the out cry from the congressman from SC. We may not like the man but the office is to be respected. We need a better health care and it is time for all to get together and work it out. I am not for a government plan as it will be a mess but I feel if they would work with what we have now and work out a better means to have it work that would be a start. Also these lawsuits hurt badly and they have to get the lawyers out of their pockets and get this out. This hate that is working in the country needs to be toned down and it starts with us. Where does hate work no where that I have seen. I remember when I was a child and the leader from Russia said at the UN we would fall from within and what are we doing now. Milly is just one of many that have been with out insurance. Our daughter lost hers when Darrell died and what she has now is bad. She pays lots but gets no coverage with the kids. Insurance right now tells you if you will be covered or not so I call that rationing. I still say that you vote out the ones needed to be out and if they see we mean business believe me they will represent us again. We have let this happen by being out of touch too. Voting and letting the congress know how we feel is one way to get our message out.. Not hate. Look around and see what a sickness we have with this hate. We can disagree but show respect for your friend and who ever it is. Maybe they can learn from us or we can learn from them. We have no leadership in government but we had to take some of the blame. Sorry if I have step on toes but I just had to speak up. Carolyn

Jenny So what did President Obama lie about????He wants to work with the republicans to get a health plan. Milly WARD Piros We do not inherit the land from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children. Native American Proverb

Obama say's a 9 billion plan will save us money ?....He's saving us money by sending his family to England for fish and chips......How can he utter those words with a straight face? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32752036/ns/politics-health_care_reform/<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32752036/ns/politics-health_care_reform/>

the first words that came out of his mouth was a lie.. (When I spoke here last winter, this nation was facing the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.) He has spent (wasted) 3x's the amount of money Bush did in his 8 yrs of office.. and I was NOT a happy camper when Bush bailed out those companies either.. But now this mess we see now is OBAMA's mess not Bushes. BTW, I don't hate Obama personally.. Just don't want any part of his communist government and I will continue to go to town halls and sign petitions as long as I can .. I am not sitting on my okole doing nothing and burying my head in the sand or looking the other way when he continues his path of destroying America.. So no matter what Obama says it goes in one ear and out the other for me.. I for one don't want a government run health care plan. And yes I agree that we DO need to fix the one in place now but don't trust a word of what Obama talked about last night of his way of fixing it. He is interested in re election that's what he is interested in. Shirley H In a message dated 09/10/09 10:12:32 Pacific Daylight Time, MPiros1120 writes: Jenny So what did President Obama lie about????He wants to work with the republicans to get a health plan. Milly WARD Piros We do not inherit the land from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children. Native American Proverb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DOWN-HOME-CHATTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message