Gayle, I was going back through some of the old postings and ran across this one. I can understand your "fixing" on the Francois Defour issue. It is fairly well documented that Francis J. Dover was born in NC in 1760/61. Someone born here would not need to an oath, besides Francis J. Dover would only have been about 14-15 years old. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I seriously doubt that Francois Defour and Francis J. Dover are the same person. Randy -----Original Message----- From: GAYLE CALABRESE [mailto:GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net] <mailto:[mailto:GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 4:02 AM To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DOVER-L] searches.rootsweb (http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices <http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices> from THE GEORGIA GENEALOGICAL MAGAZINE- April 1962, pg. 23/24 and pg179/180 also noted, from Chatham co. [Savannah area] among the "registrants of the 1805 land lottery was THOMAS DOVER." It was interesting to me that since the French ending eaux is an "R" sound , that just below his name was "John B. Deveaux." I've done some checking on the Deveaux family name, but nothing conclusive. In a book of Ship Passenger Lists in the South -1538-1825- is a Wm. Deveraux from 1838. But this is not as close as Deveaux. [Of course, I am still stuck on the idea of Francois Defour being a Dover because I can't find Francois Defour anyplace after he appears as taking an oath in Amelia Township, Berkley Co. SC. 8 June 1775. This was on a pg where John Fondren bought land on the east side of the Broad River /Kings Creek , etc. from JOHN DOVER, of Craven Co. SC. This Francois Defour critter is not on the SC 1790 census. Does anyone know when Francis first shows up "recorded" anyplace? As opposed to someone giving sworn testimony, per DAR, etc.?]