This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_920655220_boundary Content-ID: <0_920655220@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Lou, Before I forget, the date you had listed for Susan Dover/John W Gunter - 23 Dec 1819 is actually the date of marriage for Celia Dover/Jesse Cross in Habersham Co. Susan's marriage date is 4 Dec 1832 Habersham Co,GA. I am not trying to confuse anyone, but Susan listed as a dau. of FJD is something that bothers me, too. There is a John W. Gunter on 1830 Habersham Co. listed between FJD and Simpson Dover. Age is 20-30 and only male in the household. Only other possibility for him on census would in Reuben Gunter household, and the age again would be 20-30 if this were him. The same problem of age and not being listed in household of FJD on early census would hold true for Susan, if she is near the age of either of these possibilites. 1810 youngest female living with FJD is 10-16 (Celia?) 1820 only female is 45+ living with FJD 1830 no female living with FJD Susan and John W Gunter are not listed on 1840 Habersham. Does anyone know where they may have gone? Would sure like to find them on 1840-50 to get a better idea of just what her age was!!!! Randy, In Mary L Fox's claim, she says that Thomas Cross, her grandfather, was 1/4 Indian blood. Tradition when I first started researching Dover was saying the Cross kids were 3/4 Indian. I have several of the Cherokee Claim files that I have ordered pertaining to Dover connections. If you haven't seen them, they are full of family data if you are lucky enough to find one that has filed from your family line. My understanding on these claims, and someone correct me here if I am wrong, was that a denial certainly did not mean that a conclussion was made that they were not of Indian blood. To qualify, didn't their ancestors have had to be enrolled during the time of the removal? I know the 1838 date is mentioned. Sharon S --part0_920655220_boundary Content-ID: <0_920655220@inet_out.mail.ix.netcom.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <LEllis@ix.netcom.com> Received: from rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (rly-zd03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.227]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 17:28:58 -0500 Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.4]) by rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA08078 for <SSukiennik@aol.com>; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA26972; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:28:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from unknown(207.221.95.109) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma026799; Wed Mar 3 16:27:34 1999 Message-ID: <36DDD38F.168F3365@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:27:59 -0800 From: Lou Morton Ellis <LEllis@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) To: SSukiennik@aol.com CC: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DOVER-L] Francis vs. Hezikiah References: <63ba009a.36dca999@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sharon, This is what I have in my notes for Francis J. Dover: The following record of the family of FRANCIS J. DOVER was sent to Mrs. Green by a descendant, Mrs. Edwin McMann of Oklahoma City, Okla. FRANCIS DOVER, b. 6-28-1760 in Haw River, N.C., m. MARY MULLINAX, dau. of JOHN MULLINAX of S.C., and Francis d. 12-13-1851 in Habersham Co., Ga. Their children were: Johnson, b. 1787, S.C., m. HULDA -- - , lived Habersham Co., Ga. Rebecca, b 1-23-1793, S.C., m. THOMAS CROSS in Pendleton Dist., S.C., later lived in Habersham Co., Ga. Anderson, b 34-1794, S.C., m. I st JANE CROSS 2nd CATHERINE HANCOCK of Murray Co., Ga. 3rd MIRANDA McDonald d. 4-17-1885, Polk Co., Ark. Simpson, b. 1800, S.C., m. LUCY A. DOOLEY of Habersham Co., Ga. Elijah Benjamin, b. 1817, S.C., Jarrett Nelson, b. 1818 m. MATILDA GOODSON in Habersham Co., Ga. Thompson Susan, m. JOHN W. GUNTER in Habersham Co., Ga. 12-23-1819 Celia, m. JESSE CROSS in Habersham Co., Ga. Is it Elijah Benjamin or Elijah Benson??? SSukiennik@aol.com wrote: > > Diane, > > I agree, except now would be a good time for me to add that I am descended > from Elijah Benson Dover b. 1817, and I don't think that he is the Benson > named by Jesse Green. Yes, I know that he has been listed by DAR and SAR, but > if you look very carefully at FJD census records, there is never anyone listed > in his age group in the household of FJD. Same for Jarrett Nelson Dover who > is listed and even younger than my EB. I believe, and may never be able to > prove, that they are the sons of Johnson Dover/Hulda Cross. Both of them fit > the census records of Johnson. My EB was even living next door to Johnson on > the 1850 census, which of course, doesn't prove anything either :-( > > I am not disputing that Benson and Nelson may have been sons of FJD, just the > ones that have been attached as sons, would seem more likely grandsons. In > all my years of researching this, I have only run across one other researcher > in my own line that had done an in depth study of FJD. She had already > reached the same opinion that I was forming at the time. Why is there so much > information on Anderson and Wm Simpson, but little or nothing is known about > Johnson, who apparently never left Habersham Co? > > I've tried finding someone in Cross and Goodson, hoping that maybe some of > them had some kind of record. That hasn't worked out either. It does look > like Anna Goodson and Matilda Goodson were sisters. There is a probate on > Jarrett Nelson Dover that lists kids, but absolutely nothing so far to suggest > who Johnson's kids were. > > I have about run out of ideas. Anybody have any suggestions? > > Jesse never mentioned that these sons lived to be adults, either. Sure wish > he'd filled in more blanks while he was at it!!!! > > Sharon S --part0_920655220_boundary--