This is the current status of the DNA tests already in progress. Kit Product Lab Name Batch Est. Test Result Date 13244 Y-Refine12to37 PP5 Randall Dover 78 4/09/2004 13871 Y-Refine12to25 PP3 Clifton McDonald Dover 83 5/22/2004 16664 Y-DNA37 PP5 Paul Dover 77 4/14/2004 16664 Y-DNA37 STR Paul Dover 77 4/10/2004 17737 Y-DNA25 PP3 Ronald Herbert Dover 79 4/09/2004 17737 Y-DNA25 STR Ronald Herbert Dover 79 4/09/2004 19238 Y-DNA25 PP3 Carl Eugene Dover 83 5/22/2004 19238 Y-DNA25 STR Carl Eugene Dover 83 5/16/2004 Eric Dover's 37 marker upgrade order update has not gone to lab yet. FTDNA is waiting for one sample to be returned for submittal to the lab. FTDNA's lab in Arizona appears to be very busy because the more current tests have taken some additional time due to the activity and the usual retest of some of the existing DNA samples. The results for Paul and Ron will be their first. Paul is in England. Both results will be very interesting ... as they all are. I'll send a notice to Dover-L when the results are published along with the link to see them. http://www.dovertree.com/pages/5/index.htm Is your Dover family tested yet?