We were working on updating some of the York Co families again a few months ago. Dennis, BJ & I have been working together on this area for years. The people who have worked with us on this York project has varied depending on the subject and what is being discussed. A number of other Dover researchers have contributed to what we know about this area. Most recently in the following notes it was Dennis Dover, Bobbie Jean Frank, Janelle Dixon & I who were looking at some of this info again. I keep running notes on a lot of these Dover people as new bits & pieces of info turn up. I will emphasize that these are NOTES --- nothing at this stage is ever concrete as it could always change with additional info. There is usually a lot of back and forth discussions as we use each other as a sounding board and this is a method that has worked well for us as we've tried to figure out and separate these York Co Dover. One of the things that I have learned from Janelle, Sharon R, Carol Anne Ledford and Jean McSwain who are all familiar with this area of the Kings Mt Battleground that we have been looking at is sort of the lay of the land. The Kings Mt Battleground Park of today runs right up to the NC - SC border in SC. Cleveland Co, NC sounds like it may be far away, but in reality it is only the other side of the road from the Park. This area that we are looking at was once part of Tryon Co, NC then divided into NC & SC and then later the border was changed somewhat as the counties began to take formation in that area. Hambright property at one time was actually on both sides of the NC - SC border. Hambright is important to the story of York Co because we know from the old Hambright Bible record that the # 2 wife of Col Frederick Hambright of Rev War fame was Mary (DOVER) Hambright whose father was JOHN DOVER. Mary (Dover) Hambright was b 1762. This is about all that we can tell you to date about Shaderick Dover and his family that appears in the 1850 census, which isn't much. We knew from previous research that a Mary Dover was md to James Kuykendall Hambright and they were the parents of Bate Hambright that is discussed in the Dover Gen. We were trying to figure out just who this Mary Dover was ---- NOTES:  9/9/2003 The next candidate for Mary Dover / James K Hambright looks more promising.  Her age matches, so see what you think  --- 1850 York County, South Carolina M432-860 Page 244 (Ancestry Image 160)     #1292/1292 Shadarick Dover    55    [1795]    SC (York)    Laborer Elizabeth              40    [1810]    SC (York) Margaret               16    [1834]    SC (York) Mary                    14    [1836]    SC (York)  -- md James Kuykendall Hambright? Frederick              12    [1838]    SC (York) Martha                  11    [1839]    SC (York) James                   10    [1840]    SC (York) Rebecca                07    [1843]    SC (York) Nancy                   03    [1847]    SC (York) 1860 U.S. Census • North Carolina • Cleveland • Unknown Townships IM 215-217 Page 424     IM 215 #273 Shedric Dover        66    SC [1794] Rebecca             15    SC [1845] Nancey                13    SC [1847] John F.                03    SC [1857] (next page  IM 216) # 283 Mary & Martha Jane Dover daus of James & Sarah (next page IM 217) #295 James B. Bell        33 NC [1827] Jane C.                 28 SC [1832] Robert                  08 NC [1852] Eliza                    06 NC [1854] Rebecca              03 NC [1856] James Dover        17 SC [1843]        Farm laborer NOTE:  I'd always wondered why Mary, Martha & Shadrick had all relocated to the same place about the same time.  Maybe Shad went to live close to his dau Mary?  Think I've missed this James Dover living in the Bell household --- gotta think about him, but he could be the James Dover in Shad's 1850 household who was 10 then?  I looked at IM's from several pages before and after Shad, but did not find a single Hambright listing.  Know they've got to be there in the same cluster probably but there's 260 images, so without an index would take forever. 1860 -- still need to find James K Hambright 1870 -- still need to find James K Hambright's family here. 1880 U.S. Federal Census > North Carolina > Cleveland > Kings Mountain >  District 68 IM 30 1880  Census Place Kings Mountain, Cleveland, North Carolina   Family History Library Film   1254958   NA Film Number   T9-0958   Page Number   514B    James HAMBRIGHT   Self   M   Male   W   89   NC   Farmer   NC   NC   Rebecca HAMBRIGHT   Wife   M   Female   W   86   NC   At Home   NC   NC   Minerva CAROLL   Dau   S   Female   W   55   NC   Keeping House   NC   NC   Margaret DILLINGHAM   Other   D   Female   B   35   NC   Farmer   NC   NC   Anthony DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Male   B   16   NC   Farm Hand   NC   NC   Tilman DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Male   B   12   NC   Farm Hand   NC   NC   Frank DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Male   B   10   NC      NC   NC   Faithy DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Female B   7   NC      NC   NC   Caroline DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Female B   5   NC      NC   NC   Chester DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Male   B   3   NC      NC   NC   DILLINGHAM               Other   S   Female B   1M NC      NC   NC  (next door)  Mary HAMBRIGHT   Self   D   Female   W   50   NC   Farmer   NC   NC - nee Dover   Lyda HAMBRIGHT   Dau   S   Female   W   20   NC   Keeping House   NC   NC   John HAMBRIGHT   Son   S   Male   W   19   NC   Farm Hand   NC   NC   George HAMBRIGHT Other  S   Male   W   19   NC   Farm Hand   NC   NC   Jane HAMBRIGHT   GDau   S   Female   W   2   NC      NC   NC  NOTE:  Some of the Hambright info that I have seen says that James K Hambright died in the Civil War.  This census shows she was divorced -- not sure if it's just a mistake or what.  She is still living next door to her in-laws here.  **************************************** Part of the age range of kids found in the 1850 census that we need to be looking for in some of this were in the Civil War.  Found a site the other day listing casualities that we probably need to take a look at to fill some of the gaps especially the ones that died and are not going to be found in 1870  -- http://www.researchonline.net/sccw/index/index51.htm Index to South Carolina Civil War Soldiers Dover, Asa G.        SC 17th Infantry Regiment    F     Dover, Felix        SC 17th Infantry Regiment    F     Dover, G. Washington        Died in the War - Broken Fortunes         DOVER, J.G.        SC 17th Infantry Regiment, Company C    C     DOVER, James G        SC 17th Infantry Regiment, Company C    C     Dover, John        SC 3rd Infantry Battalion Reserves    D     Dover, John        SC 5th Infantry Regiment State Troops    B     Dover, Martin        SC 1st Infantry Regiment (Hagood's)    I     Dover, Martin        Died in the War - Broken Fortunes         DOVER, Michael        SC 17th Infantry Regiment, Company C    C     Dover, Morgan        SC 3rd Infantry Battalion Reserves    D     Dover, P. H.        Died in the War - Broken Fortunes         DOVER, P.H.        SC 12th Infantry Regiment, Company B    B     Dover, Pinckney        Died in the War - Broken Fortunes         Dover, Thomas        SC 5th Infantry Regiment State Troops    B     Dover, W. E.        Died in the War - Broken Fortunes         Dover, W. R.        Died in the War - Broken Fortunes         Dover, W.        SC 1st Infantry Regiment (Gregg's)    G     Dover, Wash        SC 5th Infantry Regiment    G     DOVER, Wash.        SC 5th Infantry Regiment Second    G2     DOVER, William M.        SC 17th Infantry Regiment, Company C    C     Dover, William M.        Died in the War - Broken Fortunes         Dover, William        SC 5th Infantry Regiment    G     Dover, Zeph        SC 5th Infantry Regiment    G     DOVER, Zeph.        SC 5th Infantry Regiment Second    G2     Hambright, Abner SC 5th Infantry Regiment State Troops B Hambright, Gilbreath SC 5th Infantry Regiment State Troops B Hambright, J. M. Died in the War - Broken Fortunes Hambright, J. Martin SC 5th Infantry Regiment State Troops B HAMBRIGHT, J. P. SC- Palmetto Sharpshooters G Hambright, James K. Died in the War - Broken Fortunes Hambright, John P. SC 5th Infantry Regiment H Hambright, Joseph S. SC 17th Infantry Regiment F Hambright, L.       SC 1st Artillery Regiment F Hambright, Lewis SC 3rd Infantry Battalion Reserves D Hambright, Lewis SC 5th Infantry Regiment State Troops B Hambright, Phillip SC 1st Artillery Regiment F *************************************** NOTES 9/10/2003 I really think that James Kuykendall Hambright is going to be found in Cleveland Co, NC in the 1860.  If Mary Dover's father is Shad as I suspect, he was in Cleveland Co, NC in 1860.  James K Hambright's parents were in Cleveland Co 1850 and still there 1880 with his kids living next door.  Chances are that he never left Cleveland Co, NC. James Hambright md Rebecca Carroll were parents of James K Hambright. Fred Hambright JR md Mary Eaker.  "He lived on Kings Creek not far from his father's home."   Kids  --- John / Sarah Green James / # 1 Anne Eaker # 2 Rebecca Carroll Benjamin / __? Dixon & went west Michael A / # 1 Ellen __?  # 2 Faithy (Stewart) Reynolds Christy Eaker / Anne or Anna Williams Peter -- went west Sallie / Vachel Dillingham Jefferson / Sallie Mannon Lotsie / Henry Carpenter -- went to Tippah Co, MS about 1850 Madison / # 1 Elizabeth Mannon # 2 Faithie Houser (d/o Henry & Faithy Howser) I have a note here -- not for sure where it came from (Eudora Ratliff a Hambright researcher, I think) say James K Hambright & Mary Dover md 1857 in Mecklinburg Co, NC.  That's where they might be 1860 or more than likely never left the area, but James & Mary will be md in 1860. NOTE: Hambright info in the above is from the Hambright book by Bonnie Summers, a descendant. *********************************** Additional info  9/10/2003  ---- DD has found the missing 1860 & 1870 census for James K Hambright.  Frederick & Mary were the children of Shad.  That's James Kuykendall Hambright as her husband.  That's the Bate Hambright that the Dover Gen says owns the place where John Dover settled after coming back and finding someone else running his old mill.  James K Hambright is still right there with his parents.  Don't you just love these people that stay put? 1850 York County, South Carolina M432-860 Page 244 (Ancestry Image 160) #1292/1292 Shadarick Dover 55 [1795] SC (York) Laborer Elizabeth             40 [1810] SC (York) Margaret             16 [1834] SC (York) Mary                   14 [1836] SC (York)  -- md James K Hambright Frederick             12 [1838] SC (York)  -- 1860 census Martha                 11 [1839] SC (York) James                 10 [1840] SC (York) -- 1860 census?? Rebecca              07 [1843] SC (York) Nancy                  03 [1847] SC (York) Hambright, James     IM 147  s/o Fred JR   State: North Carolina Year: 1850   County: Cleveland Roll: M432_625   Township: Unknown Townships Page: 190   Image: 378 1098 / 1098 HAMBRIGHT, James   58  farmer 180 SC Rebecca                     53 SC  nee CARROLL James K                     16 --- father of Fed & Bate md Mary Dover Christopher                 14 1860 U.S. Census • North Carolina • Cleveland • Unknown Townships    IM 203 188 / 188 HAMBRIGHT, James  67  3000  SC   farmer  -- father of James K Hambright Rebeca                     64 -- nee Carroll Christy J                    24 male  farm labor 189 / 189 HAMBRIGHT, J K  27  farmer   200 SC -- James Kuykendall Hambright s/o James Mary                    23 SC  -- nee Dover d/o Shaderick Dover Liddy F                   1 DOVER, Federic    21  farm labor  -- s/o Shaderick Dover 1870 U.S. Census • North Carolina • Cleveland • Unknown Townships    IM 86 197 / 199 HAMBRIGHT, J       78 farmer  663 / 300 SC --- James s/o Fred JR Rebecca                 73 NC CARROLL, Manerva 40  NC 199 / 131 HAMBRIGHT, M       35 SC kh  -- Mary (Dover) d/o Shad Lydia                       12 SC James B                  10 SC -- James Beatty aka Bate Frederick                 10 SC -- George Frederick aka Fed 1880 U.S. Federal Census > North Carolina > Cleveland > Kings Mountain >  District 68 IM 30 1880  Census Place Kings Mountain, Cleveland, North Carolina   Family History Library Film   1254958   NA Film Number   T9-0958   Page Number   514B    James HAMBRIGHT   Self   M   Male   W   89   NC   Farmer   NC   NC   Rebecca HAMBRIGHT   Wife   M   Female   W   86   NC   At Home   NC   NC   Minerva CAROLL   Dau   S   Female   W   55   NC   Keeping House   NC   NC   Margaret DILLINGHAM   Other   D   Female   B   35   NC   Farmer   NC   NC   Anthony DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Male   B   16   NC   Farm Hand   NC   NC   Tilman DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Male   B   12   NC   Farm Hand   NC   NC   Frank DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Male   B   10   NC      NC   NC   Faithy DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Female B   7   NC      NC   NC   Caroline DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Female B   5   NC      NC   NC   Chester DILLINGHAM   Other   S   Male   B   3   NC      NC   NC   DILLINGHAM               Other   S   Female B   1M NC      NC   NC  (next door)  Mary HAMBRIGHT   Self   D   Female   W   50   NC   Farmer   NC   NC - nee Dover   Lyda HAMBRIGHT   Dau   S   Female   W   20   NC   Keeping House   NC   NC   John HAMBRIGHT   Son   S   Male   W   19   NC   Farm Hand   NC   NC   George HAMBRIGHT Other  S   Male   W   19   NC   Farm Hand   NC   NC   Jane HAMBRIGHT   GDau   S   Female   W   2   NC      NC   NC  NOTE: John Hambright in this index should actually be James. James Beatty Hambright aka Bate Hambright was the owner of the Dover property at the time that the Dover Gen was written.  Now all we need to do is figure out when the Gen was written and what land Bate owned at that time and we'll know exactly were the Dover property was.  OK, so I know we're still a long way from that, but at least it's more info than we had before and we are beginning to put a family together for Shad which is an improvement.  While we are on Shad, don't forget that Shaderick Dover signed one of those court records with Hez back in 1819 when Hez & Michael beat the heck out of Bershiber (Dover) Martin's husband Manning Martin.     ************************************* >From what Dennis posted to the list the other day --- 1870 Cleveland County, North Carolina Census M593-1131 Page 97B (Ancestry Image 191) #171/173 Shadrack Dover    70 [1800] SC Elizabeth         40 [1830] NC William Wilson    05 [1865] NC 1880 Cleveland County, North Carolina Census T9-958 Rippys, Cleveland County, North Carolina Page 483A    Elizabeth Dover    Self    F W W 50 [1830] NC Keeping House Fa: NC Mo: NC William Dover    Other    M S W 14 [1866] GA             Fa: NC Mo: NC NOTE: Elizabeth here would be the widow of Shaderick Dover. This William Dover was the child named as William WILSON in the previous census. ------------------------------- War of 1812 Shadrach Dover    Numbers: SC 8773, SC 16534, NC 73813, NC 25385 Bounty Land 41081-80-50 Widow: Elizabeth Dover Service: Pvt. Capt. Calhouns & Capt. Walter Cole's Co. 3 U. S. Rifles Enlisted: September 14, 1814 Discharged: May 1, 1815 Residence of Soldier: 1851 York District, South Carolina                    1871 Shelby, Cleveland County, North Carolina                    1872 Cleveland County, North Carolina Residence of Widow:  1878 Buffalo Paper Mills, Cleveland County, North Carolina             1888 Shelby, Cleveland County, North Carolina Maiden name of Widow: Elizabeth Roman (1st married Wilson) Marriage:              October 28, 1866 Death of Soldier:    April 29, 1876 Death of Widow:    November 26, 1897 NOTE: There should be military records showing Shad's appliciation for pension as well as his widow's application for widow benefits that may include information about Shad's family if someone wants to follow up on obtaining the records. Sharon S