I have that Johnson Dover filed a claim on behalf of his father Francis. But the point is valid, was he allowed to do that? And why was Francis OK at some point, then not considered a veteran at another. Did Joshua receive a land grant? BTW I see he died in Pikeville. That's just about 45 miles from my house. Do you have a cemetery name? Also, do you know if anyone has a picture of Francis' headstone? (If he has one.) And what is the name of the cemetery. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> To: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: RE: [Dover] Revolutionary War records > This reference has always baffled me because I wonder if there's a > hint that there might possibly be additional Joshua Dover > information after the date of his rejection in 1834 (and his death) > and a "later" claim by a family member whose name certainly exists > but we have no clue who they would have been. The 1852 date in this > reference is what prompts the interest because it was in 1852 that > Johnson Dover filed a claim on his father's service. Admittedly > Johnson filed just after his father died, so that could be a > coincidence with what follows. I've not found any reference so far > that the US Govt may have passed a law in 1851/1852 that may have > provided some sort of possible further benefits to the families of > RS veterans. Whether or not there was a law brings up the question, > is there something more in Joshua's file(s) hinted at "expanded in > 1852 to include later records." I did learn that claims like that > most often related to land grants and those would be in separate > files at the National Archives and also might be in local county > records maybe now microfilmed or in the stacks. > > *********************************** > > Excerpted from "Rejected or Suspended Applications for Revolutionary > War Pensions," Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C., > originally published in 1838, expanded in 1852 to include later > records. > > Reminder: These are partial records. In many cases, the applicant, > widow or heir applied successfully at a later date. > > > Joshua Dover TN Pikeville, Bledsoe For further proof of service. > (Rejected/Suspended Pensions, 1852) > > http://www.tngenweb.org/revwar/pension/reject02.html > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Dover [mailto:7_rddover@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:39 PM > To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Dover] Revolutionary War records > > I've been trying to research Francis J. Dover's Revolutionary War > service and records. In doing so I ran across a book (title is > below) that gives some hints of where to check stuff out. I'd be > interested if anyone has access to any of the microfilm rolls listed > in this passage. If anyone has any records of Francis J's service, > I'd be more than happy to look at it. > > Almost all of these records were later microfilmed and made > available to the public in the United States Archives. Muster rolls, > returns, pay lists, guard reports, and other records showing the > military service of persons in particular organizations were > reproduced as Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783 (M246). By far, the > most valuable records for the genealogist or military historian are > the Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land-Warrant Application > Files (M805) and Selected Records For Revolutionary War Pension and > Bounty-Land-Application Files (M805). These two microfilms provide > the details of military service and personal data. A name index was > created and titled Special Index to Numbered Records in the War > Department Collection of Revolutionary War Records, 1775-1783 > (M847). Another listing of the war participants is the General Index > to Compiled Military Service Records of Revolutionary War Soldiers > (M860). These are the two microfilms that the researcher should be! > gin with in tracing a Revolutionary War participant. Another > microfilm of major value is titled Lists of North Carolina and South > Carolina Troops and of Officers and Men of Continental Organizations > Raised from More Than One State, 1775-1783 (M853 Roll 16). Letters, > receipts for pay, supply returns and other records of miscellaneous > character were reproduced as Miscellaneous Numbered Records (The > Manuscript File) in the War Department Collection of Revolutionary > War Records, 1775-1790's (M859). > > Source: Introduction to: Roster of South Carolina Patriots in the > American Revolution, author Moss. > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Dover resources at surname web > http://www.surnameweb.org/registry/d/o/v/dover.shtml > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Genconnect board > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.dover >

Randy, I did some research in Bledsoe County, TN and surrounding counties looking for anything on Joshua Dover. I wound up providing a copy of his revolutionary war application to the local library there sometime last year, just so they would have something. There was also a Joshua Dover who served in the War of 1812, but only a reference appears to exist to that service. About cemeteries and headstones for these older Dover's, as far as we know, no one definitely knows where Francis, Joshua, Hezekiah, or others of this era are buried. Their stones were generally only fieldstones. But, we're still looking! Marjorie Dover Stansel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Dover" <7_rddover@comcast.net> To: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [Dover] Revolutionary War records >I have that Johnson Dover filed a claim on behalf of his father Francis. > > But the point is valid, was he allowed to do that? > > And why was Francis OK at some point, then not considered a veteran at > another. > > Did Joshua receive a land grant? BTW I see he died in Pikeville. That's > just about 45 miles from my house. Do you have a cemetery name? > > Also, do you know if anyone has a picture of Francis' headstone? (If he > has one.) And what is the name of the cemetery. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> > To: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 2:51 PM > Subject: RE: [Dover] Revolutionary War records > > >> This reference has always baffled me because I wonder if there's a >> hint that there might possibly be additional Joshua Dover >> information after the date of his rejection in 1834 (and his death) >> and a "later" claim by a family member whose name certainly exists >> but we have no clue who they would have been. The 1852 date in this >> reference is what prompts the interest because it was in 1852 that >> Johnson Dover filed a claim on his father's service. Admittedly >> Johnson filed just after his father died, so that could be a >> coincidence with what follows. I've not found any reference so far >> that the US Govt may have passed a law in 1851/1852 that may have >> provided some sort of possible further benefits to the families of >> RS veterans. Whether or not there was a law brings up the question, >> is there something more in Joshua's file(s) hinted at "expanded in >> 1852 to include later records." I did learn that claims like that >> most often related to land grants and those would be in separate >> files at the National Archives and also might be in local county >> records maybe now microfilmed or in the stacks. >> >> *********************************** >> >> Excerpted from "Rejected or Suspended Applications for Revolutionary >> War Pensions," Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C., >> originally published in 1838, expanded in 1852 to include later >> records. >> >> Reminder: These are partial records. In many cases, the applicant, >> widow or heir applied successfully at a later date. >> >> >> Joshua Dover TN Pikeville, Bledsoe For further proof of service. >> (Rejected/Suspended Pensions, 1852) >> >> http://www.tngenweb.org/revwar/pension/reject02.html >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Randy Dover [mailto:7_rddover@comcast.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:39 PM >> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [Dover] Revolutionary War records >> >> I've been trying to research Francis J. Dover's Revolutionary War >> service and records. In doing so I ran across a book (title is >> below) that gives some hints of where to check stuff out. I'd be >> interested if anyone has access to any of the microfilm rolls listed >> in this passage. If anyone has any records of Francis J's service, >> I'd be more than happy to look at it. >> >> Almost all of these records were later microfilmed and made >> available to the public in the United States Archives. Muster rolls, >> returns, pay lists, guard reports, and other records showing the >> military service of persons in particular organizations were >> reproduced as Revolutionary War Rolls, 1775-1783 (M246). By far, the >> most valuable records for the genealogist or military historian are >> the Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land-Warrant Application >> Files (M805) and Selected Records For Revolutionary War Pension and >> Bounty-Land-Application Files (M805). These two microfilms provide >> the details of military service and personal data. A name index was >> created and titled Special Index to Numbered Records in the War >> Department Collection of Revolutionary War Records, 1775-1783 >> (M847). Another listing of the war participants is the General Index >> to Compiled Military Service Records of Revolutionary War Soldiers >> (M860). These are the two microfilms that the researcher should be! >> gin with in tracing a Revolutionary War participant. Another >> microfilm of major value is titled Lists of North Carolina and South >> Carolina Troops and of Officers and Men of Continental Organizations >> Raised from More Than One State, 1775-1783 (M853 Roll 16). Letters, >> receipts for pay, supply returns and other records of miscellaneous >> character were reproduced as Miscellaneous Numbered Records (The >> Manuscript File) in the War Department Collection of Revolutionary >> War Records, 1775-1790's (M859). >> >> Source: Introduction to: Roster of South Carolina Patriots in the >> American Revolution, author Moss. >> >> >> ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >> Dover resources at surname web >> http://www.surnameweb.org/registry/d/o/v/dover.shtml >> >> >> >> >> ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >> Genconnect board >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.dover >> > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Dover resources at surname web > http://www.surnameweb.org/registry/d/o/v/dover.shtml >