Randy, I had some notes that I can't locate but maybe that's good for now so this is less confusing on the surface. What follows are two key pieces. I suspected that the mention of Francis Dover in the second record was his first known record in Pendleton, SC after he left York per his RS file. There's a time gap on his whereabouts/census. BJ came found the first record later and I have to think the mention of Dover is Francis, but it may not be but still appears to connect on the hunch side. What I think I remember in the missing notes was that those who Francis witnessed for, including an RS officer, were from York (Hamilton and Boggs) and that they somehow tie into Colonel William Bratton in the York area who I had the hunch was the regimental commander for two separate companies for a brief period of time in the York area that included both Francis Dover and Joshua Dover. These guys, including Francis, all came from the same area. Whether they knew each other before Pendleton is a question, but it was a compliment to Francis for an RS officer and a planter to ask Francis to witness the will. There were plenty of other RS officers in the same area of Pendleton at the same time, including a commanding general of Francis. Even though Francis was an enlisted man, their respect for him just jumps out. I would bust my buttons if it was ever found that "Uncle? Frank" was a non-commissioned officer (NCO) :-) Dennis *************************************************************** Pendleton County, South Carolina Civil Records The South Carolina Magazine of Ancestral Research SCMAR, Volume VI Number 1, Winter, 1978 Pendleton County Court Minutes SCMAR, Vol. VI, Winter 1978, No. 1, p.8, May 30, 1791 [two names illegible] Murphree gave to William Young, Eddins to Dover, gave to John Adams Aaron Boggs Feb. 15, 1791. Bail- When to be taken page 273, one held to bail but transient persons, nor any other for use than £ 50 current money - nor upon a writ of Capias and Respondem. Cause in debt unless an affidavit that be made and attested by a Magistrate, and indorsed on and annexed to the writ, before the service of it, of the sum really due, nor before any other cause without a Judges order, on probable cause of action, shewn to be indorsed on, or annexed to the said writ, expressing the sum for which the Bail should be given. Source: Bobbie Jean Frank Note: See David Hamilton will that follows Anderson County, South Carolina August 1, 1797 Pages 121-122 Will of Robert Hall. Wife Mary to have negro girl Rachel, wriding (sic) chair, household furniture, stock, etc., for support of herself and children until sons James R. Hall and John Hall are 21 then to be disposed of at discretion of executors. James Roddy Hall and John Hall shall have 3 cows and calves when they reach 18. Widow to have legal share of land during widowhood or until son John is 21. Son James Roddy Hall to have plantation on Goldings Creek lately purchased of James Brown of Noly Chucky, also negro boy Charles, except that profits from plantation and labors of Roddy and his boy Charles be applied for support of family in common until he reaches 25 years of age. To son John plantation whereon I now live and negro boy Israel. To my child of which my wife is now pregnant supposing it to live, negro girl Rachel. Executors: Robert Bowen, Esq., Capt. David Hamilton, and W. (?) Mathews and wife Mary Hall. (Signed) Rob. Hall Wit.: Francis Dover, Wm. Pugh, Robert Glenn. Proven 18 Sep 1797. David Hamilton Will HAMILTON, DAVID of York County 24 Apr 1797 Wife: Jean Sons: James Hamilton, David Hamilton, Alexander Hamilton Daughter: Catherine Hamilton Son: John Hamilton Daughter: Elizabeth Bogs, wife of Aaron Bogs To: Thomas Hamilton Daughter: Jean Son: William Executors: Sons, John and William Hamilton Witnesses: Samuel Davidson, John Burkhead, John McCullock Proven: 10 Nov 1801; Case 57 file #2560 http://members.aol.com/haynespa/yorksc3.htm#HAMILTON

Dennis, Did you see my note about the "private soldier"? The first several times I read that, I just read it as if he was a private in the military. Then one day it jumped out at me...it actually reads "He was a private soldier at ANKRUMS [Ancrum's]". He was A private soldier. I have the feeling that he wasn't just A private. I think he was somewhat up in ranks. He survived Sumter's Defeat, Gates' Defeat, Cowpens and Guilford's Courthouse. That indicated some longevity during wartime. The nature of war being what it is, longevity leads to promotion. He was in York District. I got this from a Revolutionary War researcher, not a genealogy researcher "York county was an ugly place to be. It was kinda like living in Bosnia. every one was literally fighting every one. It could be more properly defined as a civil war there than a revolution.". According to his pension application he stated "Entered service as a volunteer private soldier in GUILFORD COUNTY, N.C", then he stated "then enlisted in either July or August 1779 in the Regular Continental Army under Gen. Green[e]". He was both a militia AND a Continental Regular. Kind of made me glad and a little proud to see that William A. had made SGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> To: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: [Dover] RE: Ranger History > Randy, > > I had some notes that I can't locate but maybe that's good for now > so this is less confusing on the surface. What follows are two key > pieces. I suspected that the mention of Francis Dover in the second > record was his first known record in Pendleton, SC after he left > York per his RS file. There's a time gap on his whereabouts/census. > BJ came found the first record later and I have to think the mention > of Dover is Francis, but it may not be but still appears to connect > on the hunch side. What I think I remember in the missing notes was > that those who Francis witnessed for, including an RS officer, were > from York (Hamilton and Boggs) and that they somehow tie into > Colonel William Bratton in the York area who I had the hunch was the > regimental commander for two separate companies for a brief period > of time in the York area that included both Francis Dover and Joshua > Dover. > > These guys, including Francis, all came from the same area. Whether > they knew each other before Pendleton is a question, but it was a > compliment to Francis for an RS officer and a planter to ask Francis > to witness the will. There were plenty of other RS officers in the > same area of Pendleton at the same time, including a commanding > general of Francis. Even though Francis was an enlisted man, their > respect for him just jumps out. I would bust my buttons if it was > ever found that "Uncle? Frank" was a non-commissioned officer (NCO) > :-) > > Dennis > > *************************************************************** > > Pendleton County, South Carolina Civil Records > > The South Carolina Magazine of Ancestral Research > SCMAR, Volume VI > Number 1, Winter, 1978 > Pendleton County Court Minutes > > SCMAR, Vol. VI, Winter 1978, No. 1, p.8, May 30, 1791 > > [two names illegible] Murphree gave to William Young, Eddins to > Dover, gave to John Adams Aaron Boggs Feb. 15, 1791. Bail- When to > be taken page 273, one held to bail but transient persons, nor any > other for use than £ 50 current money - nor upon a writ of Capias > and Respondem. Cause in debt unless an affidavit that be made and > attested by a Magistrate, and indorsed on and annexed to the writ, > before the service of it, of the sum really due, nor before any > other cause without a Judges order, on probable cause of action, > shewn to be indorsed on, or annexed to the said writ, expressing the > sum for which the Bail should be given. > > Source: Bobbie Jean Frank > > Note: See David Hamilton will that follows > > > Anderson County, South Carolina > August 1, 1797 > Pages 121-122 > > Will of Robert Hall. Wife Mary to have negro girl Rachel, wriding > (sic) chair, household furniture, stock, etc., for support of > herself and children until sons James R. Hall and John Hall are 21 > then to be disposed of at discretion of executors. James Roddy Hall > and John Hall shall have 3 cows and calves when they reach 18. Widow > to have legal share of land during widowhood or until son John is > 21. Son James Roddy Hall to have plantation on Goldings Creek lately > purchased of James Brown of Noly Chucky, also negro boy Charles, > except that profits from plantation and labors of Roddy and his boy > Charles be applied for support of family in common until he reaches > 25 years of age. To son John plantation whereon I now live and negro > boy Israel. To my child of which my wife is now pregnant supposing > it to live, negro girl Rachel. Executors: Robert Bowen, Esq., Capt. > David Hamilton, and W. (?) Mathews and wife Mary Hall. > (Signed) Rob. Hall > > Wit.: Francis Dover, Wm. Pugh, Robert Glenn. Proven 18 Sep 1797. > > David Hamilton Will > > HAMILTON, DAVID of York County 24 Apr 1797 > Wife: Jean > Sons: James Hamilton, David Hamilton, Alexander Hamilton > Daughter: Catherine Hamilton > Son: John Hamilton > Daughter: Elizabeth Bogs, wife of Aaron Bogs > To: Thomas Hamilton > Daughter: Jean > Son: William > Executors: Sons, John and William Hamilton > Witnesses: Samuel Davidson, John Burkhead, John McCullock > Proven: 10 Nov 1801; Case 57 file #2560 > > http://members.aol.com/haynespa/yorksc3.htm#HAMILTON > > > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > If you need to contact the Listmanager, > please send your message to, Patricia at mmanson@snet.net >