Sorry for confusing things. I'm all addled today. After 25 yrs., Barry went to day shift. Trying to figure out how, after all these years, I'm going to get off work and have supper ready at 6:30!! Anyway, I'm the one that got everything all muddied up. Madison's son was Wiley W. Dover. Harmon's son was William Isaac Dover. Quoting sromanek <sromanek@salisbury.net>: > Ok, I am confused. Did they have a William "Ike" Dover as well as Harmon & > Ruth Hall Dover? If not then I need to fix my files. If Harmon and Ruth did > as well is he also known as "Ike." What are the dates for Madison's son and > Harmon's please? > > > Thanks, > Sharon Dover Romanek > Primary e-mail: sromanek@salisbury.net > Secondary e-mail: sromanek@hotmail.com > > Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, > Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen > > I hear ethereal whispers, persuasive, > soft and still, "Daughter, if you don't > remember us, who will ?"----------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jacksont@otelco.net > To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Dover] William Isaac & Nancy Gilliland Dover > > > This William Isaac Dover was Madison & Susie Collins Dover's son, known as > Ike Dover > > > Quoting Dennis Dover <ddover1793@earthlink.net>: > > > This one is interesting. Newton and Laura Bates were living next > > door to William Isaac & Nancy Gilliland Dover in 1910 in Altoona, > > Etowah Co., Alabama. Newton was in Etowah County in 1880, 1900 and > > 1910. His father may have been a Francis M. Bates in Cherokee Co., > > GA. Newton was first married to Mary Adeline Cross who was born 1843 > > Georgia, possibly Cherokee Co and the daughter of Absolom & Sarah > > Ann Wayne Cross. Newton & Mary Bates had a son named James A. Bates > > who was born in Arkansas in 1878. > > > > Have been working on the BATES for awhile. Still trying to confirm > > some connections and hunches. Could be even more interesting with > > Whisenant, Collins and Lincoln Co., North Carolina ... and Polk > > > County, Arkansas. > > > > ************************************************************** > > > > Bates, Newton L., according to his Confederate pension application, > > Bates enlisted in Company E of Wofford's Brigade and Phillip's > > Legion at Camp McDonald, Georgia 4 Jul 1861; honorably discharged 7 > > Jul 1865; pension was approved. According to her Confederate widow's > > pension application, Laura reported her husband died 14 Aug 1915. > > Laura Catherine claimed he was captured at Cold Harbor, Virginia in > > 1864 and spent 13 months at Elmira Prison in New York; discharged 7 > > Jul 1865. Laura Catherine reported she married Newton L. Bates in > > 1885 near Walnut Grove; she claimed she was born at Holland Store in > > Anderson County, South Carolina, daughter of James Herring who died > > in 1913 at Murray cross in Etowah County. > > > > Letter to Alabama Pension Commission dated 31 Oct 1929: Dear Sir, > > Having became 80 years of age on Aug. 31, 1929, I went before the > > Justice of Peace on Sept. 9th 1929 and filled out the application > > blank to the best of my ability for a raise on my pension. I > > received no raise on my last warrant. I would like for the matter to > > be seen after at once as I understand the pensioners receive a raise > > after 80 years of age. Thanking you for immediate service. Sincerly > > Yours, [signed] Mrs. Laura C. Bates, Liberty, Alabama. > > > > Letter to Mrs. Laura C. Bates, dated 2 Nov 1929: Dear Mrs. Bates, > > Replying to your letter of Oct. 31st, we beg to advise that your > > application for an increase in pension was not filed in this office > > until Sept. 11th, 1929, which was too late for same to be passed on > > by the Commission for the October quarter. The Pension Commission > > has ruled that all reclassification applications must be on file in > > this office thirty days before the quarterly payment is due in order > > that the Commission may pass on same in time for the pension clerk > > to advance all pensioners to the proper classes before the work of > > checking pension warrants is begun. Otherwise there would be endless > > confusion in the bookkeeping of this office. We regreat that your > > application was received too late for you to receive the increase in > > pension for the October quarter, however, your name will be advanced > > to the pension roll, Class 1, for the January 1930 quarter, and your > > January warrant will be for the amount of $75.00. Trusting this > > explanation will be satisfactory, we are, Yours very truly, > > [unsigned copy] Secretary. > > > > According to monuments in the Harmony Missionary Baptist Cemetery > > Newton L. Bates was born 22 Aug 1840 and died 14 Aug 1915; Laura C. > > Bates was born 31 Aug 1848 and died 19 Jun 1944. > > > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~bobwonda/files/civilwarcompanies/miscellaneo > > ussoldiers/ab.html > > > > > > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > > Dover resources at Rootsweb > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/d/o/DOVER/ > > > > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Take Part in the DOVER DNA Tests > http://www.familytreedna.com/index.html > http://www.dovertree.com/pages/5/index.htm > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Dover archives > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >
That is totally alright Terry. I really do understand. I just thought I had something messed up since both families had someone who could be a William AKA Ike. TV dinners honey! TV dinners! That will work by 6:30....LOL Hang in there. You will get use to it. I think! I am still not use to mine being home all the time after over 5 years now. TTYL, Sharon Sharon Dover Romanek Primary e-mail: sromanek@salisbury.net Secondary e-mail: sromanek@hotmail.com Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen I hear ethereal whispers, persuasive, soft and still, "Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will ?"----------- ----- Original Message ----- From: jacksont@otelco.net To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [Dover] Sharon, I messed up Sorry for confusing things. I'm all addled today. After 25 yrs., Barry went to day shift. Trying to figure out how, after all these years, I'm going to get off work and have supper ready at 6:30!! Anyway, I'm the one that got everything all muddied up. Madison's son was Wiley W. Dover. Harmon's son was William Isaac Dover. Quoting sromanek <sromanek@salisbury.net>: > Ok, I am confused. Did they have a William "Ike" Dover as well as Harmon & > Ruth Hall Dover? If not then I need to fix my files. If Harmon and Ruth did > as well is he also known as "Ike." What are the dates for Madison's son and > Harmon's please? > > > Thanks, > Sharon Dover Romanek > Primary e-mail: sromanek@salisbury.net > Secondary e-mail: sromanek@hotmail.com > > Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, > Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen > > I hear ethereal whispers, persuasive, > soft and still, "Daughter, if you don't > remember us, who will ?"----------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jacksont@otelco.net > To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:52 AM > Subject: Re: [Dover] William Isaac & Nancy Gilliland Dover > > > This William Isaac Dover was Madison & Susie Collins Dover's son, known as > Ike Dover > > > Quoting Dennis Dover <ddover1793@earthlink.net>: > > > This one is interesting. Newton and Laura Bates were living next > > door to William Isaac & Nancy Gilliland Dover in 1910 in Altoona, > > Etowah Co., Alabama. Newton was in Etowah County in 1880, 1900 and > > 1910. His father may have been a Francis M. Bates in Cherokee Co., > > GA. Newton was first married to Mary Adeline Cross who was born 1843 > > Georgia, possibly Cherokee Co and the daughter of Absolom & Sarah > > Ann Wayne Cross. Newton & Mary Bates had a son named James A. Bates > > who was born in Arkansas in 1878. > > > > Have been working on the BATES for awhile. Still trying to confirm > > some connections and hunches. Could be even more interesting with > > Whisenant, Collins and Lincoln Co., North Carolina ... and Polk > > > County, Arkansas. > > > > ************************************************************** > > > > Bates, Newton L., according to his Confederate pension application, > > Bates enlisted in Company E of Wofford's Brigade and Phillip's > > Legion at Camp McDonald, Georgia 4 Jul 1861; honorably discharged 7 > > Jul 1865; pension was approved. According to her Confederate widow's > > pension application, Laura reported her husband died 14 Aug 1915. > > Laura Catherine claimed he was captured at Cold Harbor, Virginia in > > 1864 and spent 13 months at Elmira Prison in New York; discharged 7 > > Jul 1865. Laura Catherine reported she married Newton L. Bates in > > 1885 near Walnut Grove; she claimed she was born at Holland Store in > > Anderson County, South Carolina, daughter of James Herring who died > > in 1913 at Murray cross in Etowah County. > > > > Letter to Alabama Pension Commission dated 31 Oct 1929: Dear Sir, > > Having became 80 years of age on Aug. 31, 1929, I went before the > > Justice of Peace on Sept. 9th 1929 and filled out the application > > blank to the best of my ability for a raise on my pension. I > > received no raise on my last warrant. I would like for the matter to > > be seen after at once as I understand the pensioners receive a raise > > after 80 years of age. Thanking you for immediate service. Sincerly > > Yours, [signed] Mrs. Laura C. Bates, Liberty, Alabama. > > > > Letter to Mrs. Laura C. Bates, dated 2 Nov 1929: Dear Mrs. Bates, > > Replying to your letter of Oct. 31st, we beg to advise that your > > application for an increase in pension was not filed in this office > > until Sept. 11th, 1929, which was too late for same to be passed on > > by the Commission for the October quarter. The Pension Commission > > has ruled that all reclassification applications must be on file in > > this office thirty days before the quarterly payment is due in order > > that the Commission may pass on same in time for the pension clerk > > to advance all pensioners to the proper classes before the work of > > checking pension warrants is begun. Otherwise there would be endless > > confusion in the bookkeeping of this office. We regreat that your > > application was received too late for you to receive the increase in > > pension for the October quarter, however, your name will be advanced > > to the pension roll, Class 1, for the January 1930 quarter, and your > > January warrant will be for the amount of $75.00. Trusting this > > explanation will be satisfactory, we are, Yours very truly, > > [unsigned copy] Secretary. > > > > According to monuments in the Harmony Missionary Baptist Cemetery > > Newton L. Bates was born 22 Aug 1840 and died 14 Aug 1915; Laura C. > > Bates was born 31 Aug 1848 and died 19 Jun 1944. > > > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~bobwonda/files/civilwarcompanies/miscellaneo > > ussoldiers/ab.html > > > > > > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > > Dover resources at Rootsweb > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/d/o/DOVER/ > > > > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Take Part in the DOVER DNA Tests > http://www.familytreedna.com/index.html > http://www.dovertree.com/pages/5/index.htm > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Dover archives > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== If you need to contact the Listmanager, please send your message to, Patricia at mmanson@snet.net