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    1. Fwd: [SCSPARTA] Ku Klux Articles Cont.
    2. ----- Forwarded message from "Toomean2@aol.com" <Toomean2@aol.com> ----- Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:33:44 EDT From: "Toomean2@aol.com" <Toomean2@aol.com> Reply-To: "Toomean2@aol.com" <Toomean2@aol.com> Subject: [SCSPARTA] Ku Klux Articles Cont. To: "SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com" <SCSPARTA-L@rootsweb.com> "The Carolina Spartan" Issue April 18, 1872 Shot To Death by Federal Soldiers We learn from a reliable source just before going to press that a few days ago Minor PARRIS, of this County, who is well known to many of our citizens from his connection with the Magnetic Iron Company at Cherokee Ford on Broad River, was shot and killed by Federal soldiers. The circumstances as we have heard them are as follows: Minor PARRIS who has for many years attended to the Fishery on Broad River, belonging to the Iron Company, was out in the river in his boat, examining the traps for fish, when a party of Federal soldiers from the York side of the river, rode up and ordered him to halt, as he was moving for the Spartanburg shore where he lived, failing to halt his boat, a number of shots were fired at him, some of which took effect and killed him. We have not heard who was in command of these soldiers. The facts as we learn them, make this a great outrage, but we forbear further comments until they are confirmed. 'Tis thus that GRANT gives us peace. The peace of death--a peace only found in the silence of the grave. We do not know, but presume these soldiers were in pursuit of PARRIS for violations of the Ku Klux or Enforcement acts. Issue: May 9, 1872 How They Get Ku Klux Witnesses A gentleman of strict veracity, who has lately visited Charleston, and while there took much interest in Ku Klux trials now before the United States Court, informs us of a circumstance which shows up one of the vile practices resorted to by the Government officers to obtain negro evidence to implicate white persons as Ku Klux. It appears that a number of colored persons who had been confined in jail as Government witnesses were called up to make their statements, receive their pay and be discharged. One of them, however, persisted in saying that he knew nothing about the Ku Klux, and could give the Government no assistance in that respect. He was informed, that as he could not or would not tell anything, he could not get any pay, consequently the poor fellow was turned loose in Charleston, after being kept in jail by the United States Government for months, without a dollar in his pocket, while other witnesses were paid off and sent to their homes many miles distant; rejoicing. He remained in Charleston about two days suffering for food and lodging. At the expiration of that time the poor fellow went forward and implicated two persons as being Ku Klux, and was then paid off in full. There is no doubt that greenbacks have more to do in pressuring testimony against the citizens of this State had a desire to protect "loll" ? colored citizens from the Ku Klux. Is it any wonder that innocent persons fly from the fear of being arrested from such testimony? --- Unionville Times. Issue of June 27, 1872 Final Disposition of the Ku Klux The Ku Klux prisoners, convicted at the recent term of the U.S. Circuit Court and who have been confined in jail here until they could be transferred to the Albany penitentiary, will leave in the steam ship Champion, this afternoon, at 6 o'clock, in custody of Marshal Wallace, and a sufficient force of deputies. We give below the names of those going; Leander SPENCER, William SMITH, Pinckney CALDWELL, Milton HOWE, LaFayette HOOD, Felix DOVER, Walker MOORE, Joseph LECKIE, John C. TOBINSON, William LOWREY, W.M. FULTON, Charles BARNETT, Benjamin STRICKLAND, William D. BARNES, Gilbraith HAMBRIGHT, Elijah HARDEN, Miles McCULLOUGH, Walker DAWSON, Alison HAYES, James SANDERS, William RAMSEY, David RAMSOUR, Walter P. ANTHONY and George S. WRIGHT. Two others destined for the same place of imprisonment, will not be able to go at present, being sick. Their sentences vary from one to ten years -- Charleston Courier, 8th. Lisa ==== SCSPARTA Mailing List ==== Newcomers: Please introduce yourself to the list and tell us about your Spartanburg County interests. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx ----- End forwarded message -----

    10/18/2005 05:57:10
    1. Texas Births 1926-1995
    2. Dennis Dover
    3. I don't remember if this one has been posted before. It's a free database of Texas births 1926-1995. http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/txbirths

    10/14/2005 11:43:07
    1. New York Wills
    2. Terry Jackson
    3. Ancestry.com New York City Wills, 1730-1744 Page 464.--In the name of God, Amen. I, ELIAS VAN ALBARY, of New York, being in health. I leave to my wife Mary, all my real and personal estate, except my negro boy "Cesar," while she lives and remains my widow, and no longer. After her death "all the estate is to be sold at publick vendue, and divided among my children, Eliakim, Andrew, Peter, Abraham, Angel, Amy, Silvia, and Frances. I leave to my eldest son, Eliakim, a cow and a heifer. The negro boy "Cesar" is to serve 7 years, and then he is to receive "a suit of clothes fitting for a negro," and to be made free. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dated November 3, 1728. Witnesses, David Dover, Jane Dover, Thomas Hammond. Proved, March 16, 1732/3

    10/13/2005 01:28:02
    1. Re: DOVER-D Digest V05 #233
    2. In a message dated 10/5/2005 10:00:34 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, DOVER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Pam.....The 1870 Thomas should be 44 in 1880, not 52. Don't you think these are 2 different ones? I think they are one in the same. But have no proof yet. pami54@aol.com

    10/05/2005 02:15:37
    1. RE: [Dover] Re: DOVER-D Digest V05 #233
    2. Dennis Dover
    3. Pam, Isn't this the same Thomas? I think this one was the son of Jeptha Dover who went to Gilmer Co., GA. Jeptha was in the 1830 census for the first time in Buncombe Co., NC. Scott County, Indiana Newspaper Records Indianapolis News dated June 20, 1882 Thomas Dover of Jeffersonville, has just died at the pest house in that city of confluent small pox. He recently came with his family from Scott County and none of the family had been vaccinated. They all took the disease from a daughter, who had become infected in the lower part of the city. Source: Pami54@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Pami54@aol.com [mailto:Pami54@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:16 PM To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dover] Re: DOVER-D Digest V05 #233 In a message dated 10/5/2005 10:00:34 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, DOVER-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Pam.....The 1870 Thomas should be 44 in 1880, not 52. Don't you think these are 2 different ones? I think they are one in the same. But have no proof yet. pami54@aol.com ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Take Part in the DOVER DNA Tests http://www.familytreedna.com/index.html http://www.dovertree.com/pages/5/index.htm

    10/05/2005 12:00:19
    1. Re: English Dovers
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/pRT.2ACEB/445.4 Message Board Post: RE-daughter Sarah. Did she marry James Hindmore? If so he was my great great grandfather.

    10/05/2005 05:59:10
    1. Re: [Dover] Thomas Dover NC-IN
    2. Gayle Calabrese
    3. Pam.....The 1870 Thomas should be 44 in 1880, not 52. Don't you think these are 2 different ones? -------Original Message------- From: Pami54@aol.com Date: 10/04/05 22:26:40 To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dover] Thomas Dover NC-IN Does anyone know this Thomas Dover? 1870 Lexington, Scott County, IN Dover Thomas 34 NC Elizabeth 31 SC Sarah 11 GA 1880 Lexington, Scott County, IN Dover Thomas 52 NC Jane 35 IN Maggie Durbin 11 IN Thomas Dover married Jane Durbin 7/29/1875 in Scott County, IN Thomas Dover died 6/22/1882 in Jeffersonville, Clark County, IN pami54@aol.com ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Genconnect board http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.dover

    10/04/2005 06:38:08
    1. Thomas Dover NC-IN
    2. Does anyone know this Thomas Dover? 1870 Lexington, Scott County, IN Dover Thomas 34 NC Elizabeth 31 SC Sarah 11 GA 1880 Lexington, Scott County, IN Dover Thomas 52 NC Jane 35 IN Maggie Durbin 11 IN Thomas Dover married Jane Durbin 7/29/1875 in Scott County, IN Thomas Dover died 6/22/1882 in Jeffersonville, Clark County, IN pami54@aol.com

    10/04/2005 04:26:29
    1. Milledgeville State Hosp
    2. I just ran across something that I found totally shocking. I was aware that Milledgeville Hosp (Baldwin Co, GA) was the "mental" hospital in GA from things that I had seen before. I was really curious about where it was located so started doing a little looking and found this site about the history of the hospital. It was the state hosp I guess for just about anything at one time. In reading through a lot of this, old age, epileptic, TB, syphilis, mentally retarded, etc were housed there. Not all of these people were disabled -- some were people that no one wanted to be bothered with and just stuck there. There are up to 30 THOUSAND graves in the cemeteries there that were only marked by numbers and with no real record system to even begin to know who was buried in all these graves. The hosp started in 1842. It was the 14th such hosp in the nation and became known as "the world's largest insane asylum." In the late 1950's early 1960's it housed up to 15 thousand people and covered 3000 acres. Most people that went there never returned home. Most people were buried before families were even notified that they had died because of the time issue back then and says very few were ever removed and placed elsewhere. Apparently most of these people were just stuck there and forgotten about. Guess this could probably explain a lot of people who just suddenly disappeared with no record trail except for maybe a court commitment -- not sure how early those started. To compound the problem of identifying the graves at Milledgeville, in the 1960-70's part of the markers were removed and others were pushed into the ground so that it was easier to mow the grounds of the hosp. There are actually 6 cemeteries there as they were divided by men, women & children and then by race. This apparently is not an isolated case, but the norm of these early institutions. The graves in such institutions were marked only with a burial number to hide the identity of the patient and shelter the relatives from the shame of having a mental patient on the family tree. Most of the records were lost or destroyed over the years and there is no way to identify who was buried where in most cases. If there are records for such places, it takes a court order just to see most of them because of the laws involved. As one article in this states -- pet cemeteries are shown more respect than most of these hosp cemeteries that are overgrown, neglected, destroyed and have little or no records. Milledgeville is now known as Central State Hosp --- _http://www2.state.ga.us/departments/dhr/cemetery4.html_ (http://www2.state.ga.us/departments/dhr/cemetery4.html) This site tells about the hospital's history in Millegeville as well as others like it and was found on the Baldwin Co, GA website. _http://www.centralstatehospital.org/genealogy.htm_ (http://www.centralstatehospital.org/genealogy.htm) This site is the for the Central State Hosp with contact info for finding out about patients and burials on the grounds there. Admissions must be 75 years or older to obtain info without court action. Burial info for 1880 to present is available although locations of the graves are probably not always known. Sharon S

    10/04/2005 09:03:39
    1. Re: Re: [Dover] Web Search Engine Tips - Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham Co., GA
    2. Hi everyone, I am one of the quiet members of the loop but Dennis if you send me a couple of pages I would be happy to help. Thanks, > > From: <4615@bellsouth.net> > Date: 2005/10/03 Mon PM 07:13:18 EDT > To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Dover] Web Search Engine Tips - Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham Co., GA > > Dennis, the Edward N. Ivester also married into the Dover family. You can > send me a couple of pages to transcribe. > > Marjorie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> > To: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 1:36 PM > Subject: RE: [Dover] Web Search Engine Tips - Ebenezer Methodist Church in > Habersham Co., GA > > > > Using one of these tips came back with something immediately near > > the top of the first page of results that I was struggling with for > > the last few days ... the location of Ebenezer Methodist Church in > > Habersham County, Georgia. Read about Ebenezer after the following > > (there's also an Ebenezer Baptist Church somewhere in the area). > > > > I used "ebenezer methodist"+habersham to find the location answer. > > > > ***** > > > > The village of Hollywood has never been incorporated as a town, nor > > has it ever been platted as a town. It is not known when the > > community adopted the name of Hollywood, but it is believed to be in > > the early twentieth century. It was first called Ebenezer, which is > > the name of the Methodist Church that was started in 1818, the same > > year that Habersham County was charted. A small school was > > subsequently built near the church and Ebenezer was the focal point > > of the area. There were very few houses in the area now occupied by > > Hollywood before 1840. Most of the early pioneers located along Deep > > Creek, Panther Creek and Glade Creek. They were mostly farmers whose > > main objective was to produce enough to sustain their families and > > have a little extra to sell or trade for those items needed that > > could not be produced on the farm. This was pretty much the story > > until the Tallulah Falls Railway came through the area in 1892. This > > opened up a source of income as the trains needed cross ties for > > tracks and wood to fuel their engines. The trains offered > > transportation for sending goods to the markets, which previously > > had been accomplished by wagons over the Unicoi Turnpike. The name > > of the new train station became known as "Ebenezer Station." About > > this time, several apple orchards were planted and a cannery was > > built near the train station. A grist mill was built, as was a small > > store. Heretofore, the residents in the area went to the flour mill > > and post office at the "Franklin/Walker Lime Kiln." In time past, it > > had been an Indian commissary, which is located approximately two > > miles from Hollywood on Davidson Creek. > > > > About 1920, a new schoolhouse was built across the road from the > > depot, which burned a few years later and was replaced shortly > > thereafter. > > > > There are very few homes of historical significance left standing in > > the Hollywood area. Hollywood is doing well in modern times, > > however. It has a grammar school, Hollywood Baptist Church, Ebenezer > > Methodist Church, convenience stores, new water and gas lines, a > > regulation golf course and many new homes and condominiums. It is an > > interesting and friendly neighborhood. > > > > Submitted by George T. Grant, Clarkesville > > > > http://www.tourhabersham.com/pages/citieshollywood.html > > > > I'll throw something out that has no immediate answer, but possibly > > some big clues to follow through with. I have the microfilm that > > Bobbie Jean loaned me in another lifetime that is the 1834 poor > > school records for Habersham County. There's 700 plus names. First, > > old Habersham in 1834 included what became White County and included > > a sliver of Lumpkin County. The list (pages) show no location of the > > schools which were probably "church locations." The given names and > > ages are fooling because there's no way to identify most of the kids > > (a number of Dover) because the daughters married before 1850 and > > the sons may have moved. That includes other surnames. Most of the > > Dover's have no clue "where" they were for location when a number of > > them left before 1840 and for sure 1850. Best chance is to stab at > > locations as a census reference but that has been almost impossible > > to do so far. Maybe Ebenezer Methodist Church in the Hollywood area > > might include the surnames in the church records for a comparison > > with known census, isolate a probable location for the kids listed > > together. > > > > I feel the pain coming on this task. I started the transcription > > many months ago. There's only 12 images (pages) but some are hard to > > read. The poor school records from the microfilm are not anywhere on > > the internet and I doubt that many researchers have ever seen them. > > > > Are there six people with Habersham roots that would be willing to > > transcribe two pages each? I would be happy to send any or all of > > the images to anyone who is interested in helping. It might go > > really fast that way. > > > > ***** > > > > Habersham County > > Ebenezer Methodist Church > > > > About the time Habersham County was organized in 1818, Ebenezer > > Methodist Church was built across the highway from the present > > location on land owned by the Mathews Estate. No records can be > > found of the building committee or of the date the first church was > > built, but the information has been handed down to the oldest > > citizens and church members that Mr. Mathews gave permission for the > > church to be built on his property and that it probably remained > > there about 70 years until the church purchased 8.5 acres from > > EDWARD N. IVESTER in 1892. This church was at one time in the > > Dahlonega Charge. It has also been in the Elberton Charge and > > Gainesville Charge. Many pastors have served the church staying > > anywhere from 1 to 9 years. A deed was made on May 18, 1892, > > between EDWARD N. IVESTER and the Trustees of Ebenezer Church. The > > Trustees were: A. C. INGLIS, J. T. Smith, G. A. Anderson, J. R. > > Anderson, and MOSES FRANKLIN. They purchased the church lot and > > graveyard for the sum of $27.00. The deed states: "This land to be > > held in Trust, that said premises shall be used, kept, maintained > > and disposed of as a place of Divine Worship of the Methodist > > Episcopal Church, subject to the Discipline, Usage, and Ministerial > > Appointments of said Church." The deed was recorded on July 19, > > 1892. The church was moved back from the highway around 1927 at the > > time the highway was paved. > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahabers/churches/ebenezermethodist.htm > > > > A. C. INGLIS could be Alexander Inglis or maybe his son, the elder > > being the father-in-law of Robert Short Dover son of Jarrett Nelson > > Dover and Matilda Goodson son of Johnson Dover and Hulda Cross son > > of Francis J. Dover. Moses Franklin had a daughter and son that > > married Dover's ... Nancy to Edward Parker Dover and George to Nancy > > Elizabeth Dover, both children of Jarrett Nelson Dover. Correct and > > clarify where I'm wrong on this. > > > > ***** > > > > The following is a great cemetery database for Banks, Habersham and > > White counties in Georgia ... much on Habersham where the majority > > of the known burial plots for Dover AND allied are located at > > Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham. Some dob/dod that I have > > never seen before. So far, lots of Davidson and Dooly are there. The > > database is very big. I downloaded the entire database into a Word > > document that is 715 pages long ... for searching key words > > (cemetery name) instead of surname groups off the web. Also married > > Dover daughters are identified. > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahaber2/cemdb/01.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > > GENEALOGY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION IS MYTHOLOGY > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Dover resources at Rootsweb > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/d/o/DOVER/ > > Angela Meeks Independent Future Director with the Pampered Chef 478-956-3707 pchefmeeks@alltel.net www.pamperedchef.biz/angelameeks

    10/04/2005 01:55:16
    1. Re: [Dover] Web Search Engine Tips - Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham Co., GA
    2. Dennis, the Edward N. Ivester also married into the Dover family. You can send me a couple of pages to transcribe. Marjorie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Dover" <ddover1793@earthlink.net> To: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: RE: [Dover] Web Search Engine Tips - Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham Co., GA > Using one of these tips came back with something immediately near > the top of the first page of results that I was struggling with for > the last few days ... the location of Ebenezer Methodist Church in > Habersham County, Georgia. Read about Ebenezer after the following > (there's also an Ebenezer Baptist Church somewhere in the area). > > I used "ebenezer methodist"+habersham to find the location answer. > > ***** > > The village of Hollywood has never been incorporated as a town, nor > has it ever been platted as a town. It is not known when the > community adopted the name of Hollywood, but it is believed to be in > the early twentieth century. It was first called Ebenezer, which is > the name of the Methodist Church that was started in 1818, the same > year that Habersham County was charted. A small school was > subsequently built near the church and Ebenezer was the focal point > of the area. There were very few houses in the area now occupied by > Hollywood before 1840. Most of the early pioneers located along Deep > Creek, Panther Creek and Glade Creek. They were mostly farmers whose > main objective was to produce enough to sustain their families and > have a little extra to sell or trade for those items needed that > could not be produced on the farm. This was pretty much the story > until the Tallulah Falls Railway came through the area in 1892. This > opened up a source of income as the trains needed cross ties for > tracks and wood to fuel their engines. The trains offered > transportation for sending goods to the markets, which previously > had been accomplished by wagons over the Unicoi Turnpike. The name > of the new train station became known as "Ebenezer Station." About > this time, several apple orchards were planted and a cannery was > built near the train station. A grist mill was built, as was a small > store. Heretofore, the residents in the area went to the flour mill > and post office at the "Franklin/Walker Lime Kiln." In time past, it > had been an Indian commissary, which is located approximately two > miles from Hollywood on Davidson Creek. > > About 1920, a new schoolhouse was built across the road from the > depot, which burned a few years later and was replaced shortly > thereafter. > > There are very few homes of historical significance left standing in > the Hollywood area. Hollywood is doing well in modern times, > however. It has a grammar school, Hollywood Baptist Church, Ebenezer > Methodist Church, convenience stores, new water and gas lines, a > regulation golf course and many new homes and condominiums. It is an > interesting and friendly neighborhood. > > Submitted by George T. Grant, Clarkesville > > http://www.tourhabersham.com/pages/citieshollywood.html > > I'll throw something out that has no immediate answer, but possibly > some big clues to follow through with. I have the microfilm that > Bobbie Jean loaned me in another lifetime that is the 1834 poor > school records for Habersham County. There's 700 plus names. First, > old Habersham in 1834 included what became White County and included > a sliver of Lumpkin County. The list (pages) show no location of the > schools which were probably "church locations." The given names and > ages are fooling because there's no way to identify most of the kids > (a number of Dover) because the daughters married before 1850 and > the sons may have moved. That includes other surnames. Most of the > Dover's have no clue "where" they were for location when a number of > them left before 1840 and for sure 1850. Best chance is to stab at > locations as a census reference but that has been almost impossible > to do so far. Maybe Ebenezer Methodist Church in the Hollywood area > might include the surnames in the church records for a comparison > with known census, isolate a probable location for the kids listed > together. > > I feel the pain coming on this task. I started the transcription > many months ago. There's only 12 images (pages) but some are hard to > read. The poor school records from the microfilm are not anywhere on > the internet and I doubt that many researchers have ever seen them. > > Are there six people with Habersham roots that would be willing to > transcribe two pages each? I would be happy to send any or all of > the images to anyone who is interested in helping. It might go > really fast that way. > > ***** > > Habersham County > Ebenezer Methodist Church > > About the time Habersham County was organized in 1818, Ebenezer > Methodist Church was built across the highway from the present > location on land owned by the Mathews Estate. No records can be > found of the building committee or of the date the first church was > built, but the information has been handed down to the oldest > citizens and church members that Mr. Mathews gave permission for the > church to be built on his property and that it probably remained > there about 70 years until the church purchased 8.5 acres from > EDWARD N. IVESTER in 1892. This church was at one time in the > Dahlonega Charge. It has also been in the Elberton Charge and > Gainesville Charge. Many pastors have served the church staying > anywhere from 1 to 9 years. A deed was made on May 18, 1892, > between EDWARD N. IVESTER and the Trustees of Ebenezer Church. The > Trustees were: A. C. INGLIS, J. T. Smith, G. A. Anderson, J. R. > Anderson, and MOSES FRANKLIN. They purchased the church lot and > graveyard for the sum of $27.00. The deed states: "This land to be > held in Trust, that said premises shall be used, kept, maintained > and disposed of as a place of Divine Worship of the Methodist > Episcopal Church, subject to the Discipline, Usage, and Ministerial > Appointments of said Church." The deed was recorded on July 19, > 1892. The church was moved back from the highway around 1927 at the > time the highway was paved. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahabers/churches/ebenezermethodist.htm > > A. C. INGLIS could be Alexander Inglis or maybe his son, the elder > being the father-in-law of Robert Short Dover son of Jarrett Nelson > Dover and Matilda Goodson son of Johnson Dover and Hulda Cross son > of Francis J. Dover. Moses Franklin had a daughter and son that > married Dover's ... Nancy to Edward Parker Dover and George to Nancy > Elizabeth Dover, both children of Jarrett Nelson Dover. Correct and > clarify where I'm wrong on this. > > ***** > > The following is a great cemetery database for Banks, Habersham and > White counties in Georgia ... much on Habersham where the majority > of the known burial plots for Dover AND allied are located at > Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham. Some dob/dod that I have > never seen before. So far, lots of Davidson and Dooly are there. The > database is very big. I downloaded the entire database into a Word > document that is 715 pages long ... for searching key words > (cemetery name) instead of surname groups off the web. Also married > Dover daughters are identified. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahaber2/cemdb/01.htm > > > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > GENEALOGY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION IS MYTHOLOGY >

    10/03/2005 01:13:18
    1. Re: [Dover] Web Search Engine Tips - Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham Co., GA
    2. Terry Jackson
    3. I can do a few pages. Dennis Dover wrote: >Using one of these tips came back with something immediately near >the top of the first page of results that I was struggling with for >the last few days ... the location of Ebenezer Methodist Church in >Habersham County, Georgia. Read about Ebenezer after the following >(there's also an Ebenezer Baptist Church somewhere in the area). > >I used "ebenezer methodist"+habersham to find the location answer. > >***** > >The village of Hollywood has never been incorporated as a town, nor >has it ever been platted as a town. It is not known when the >community adopted the name of Hollywood, but it is believed to be in >the early twentieth century. It was first called Ebenezer, which is >the name of the Methodist Church that was started in 1818, the same >year that Habersham County was charted. A small school was >subsequently built near the church and Ebenezer was the focal point >of the area. There were very few houses in the area now occupied by >Hollywood before 1840. Most of the early pioneers located along Deep >Creek, Panther Creek and Glade Creek. They were mostly farmers whose >main objective was to produce enough to sustain their families and >have a little extra to sell or trade for those items needed that >could not be produced on the farm. This was pretty much the story >until the Tallulah Falls Railway came through the area in 1892. This >opened up a source of income as the trains needed cross ties for >tracks and wood to fuel their engines. The trains offered >transportation for sending goods to the markets, which previously >had been accomplished by wagons over the Unicoi Turnpike. The name >of the new train station became known as "Ebenezer Station." About >this time, several apple orchards were planted and a cannery was >built near the train station. A grist mill was built, as was a small >store. Heretofore, the residents in the area went to the flour mill >and post office at the "Franklin/Walker Lime Kiln." In time past, it >had been an Indian commissary, which is located approximately two >miles from Hollywood on Davidson Creek. > >About 1920, a new schoolhouse was built across the road from the >depot, which burned a few years later and was replaced shortly >thereafter. > >There are very few homes of historical significance left standing in >the Hollywood area. Hollywood is doing well in modern times, >however. It has a grammar school, Hollywood Baptist Church, Ebenezer >Methodist Church, convenience stores, new water and gas lines, a >regulation golf course and many new homes and condominiums. It is an >interesting and friendly neighborhood. > >Submitted by George T. Grant, Clarkesville > >http://www.tourhabersham.com/pages/citieshollywood.html > >I'll throw something out that has no immediate answer, but possibly >some big clues to follow through with. I have the microfilm that >Bobbie Jean loaned me in another lifetime that is the 1834 poor >school records for Habersham County. There's 700 plus names. First, >old Habersham in 1834 included what became White County and included >a sliver of Lumpkin County. The list (pages) show no location of the >schools which were probably "church locations." The given names and >ages are fooling because there's no way to identify most of the kids >(a number of Dover) because the daughters married before 1850 and >the sons may have moved. That includes other surnames. Most of the >Dover's have no clue "where" they were for location when a number of >them left before 1840 and for sure 1850. Best chance is to stab at >locations as a census reference but that has been almost impossible >to do so far. Maybe Ebenezer Methodist Church in the Hollywood area >might include the surnames in the church records for a comparison >with known census, isolate a probable location for the kids listed >together. > >I feel the pain coming on this task. I started the transcription >many months ago. There's only 12 images (pages) but some are hard to >read. The poor school records from the microfilm are not anywhere on >the internet and I doubt that many researchers have ever seen them. > >Are there six people with Habersham roots that would be willing to >transcribe two pages each? I would be happy to send any or all of >the images to anyone who is interested in helping. It might go >really fast that way. > >***** > >Habersham County >Ebenezer Methodist Church > >About the time Habersham County was organized in 1818, Ebenezer >Methodist Church was built across the highway from the present >location on land owned by the Mathews Estate. No records can be >found of the building committee or of the date the first church was >built, but the information has been handed down to the oldest >citizens and church members that Mr. Mathews gave permission for the >church to be built on his property and that it probably remained >there about 70 years until the church purchased 8.5 acres from >EDWARD N. IVESTER in 1892. This church was at one time in the >Dahlonega Charge. It has also been in the Elberton Charge and >Gainesville Charge. Many pastors have served the church staying >anywhere from 1 to 9 years. A deed was made on May 18, 1892, >between EDWARD N. IVESTER and the Trustees of Ebenezer Church. The >Trustees were: A. C. INGLIS, J. T. Smith, G. A. Anderson, J. R. >Anderson, and MOSES FRANKLIN. They purchased the church lot and >graveyard for the sum of $27.00. The deed states: "This land to be >held in Trust, that said premises shall be used, kept, maintained >and disposed of as a place of Divine Worship of the Methodist >Episcopal Church, subject to the Discipline, Usage, and Ministerial >Appointments of said Church." The deed was recorded on July 19, >1892. The church was moved back from the highway around 1927 at the >time the highway was paved. > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahabers/churches/ebenezermethodist.htm > >A. C. INGLIS could be Alexander Inglis or maybe his son, the elder >being the father-in-law of Robert Short Dover son of Jarrett Nelson >Dover and Matilda Goodson son of Johnson Dover and Hulda Cross son >of Francis J. Dover. Moses Franklin had a daughter and son that >married Dover's ... Nancy to Edward Parker Dover and George to Nancy >Elizabeth Dover, both children of Jarrett Nelson Dover. Correct and >clarify where I'm wrong on this. > >***** > >The following is a great cemetery database for Banks, Habersham and >White counties in Georgia ... much on Habersham where the majority >of the known burial plots for Dover AND allied are located at >Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham. Some dob/dod that I have >never seen before. So far, lots of Davidson and Dooly are there. The >database is very big. I downloaded the entire database into a Word >document that is 715 pages long ... for searching key words >(cemetery name) instead of surname groups off the web. Also married >Dover daughters are identified. > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahaber2/cemdb/01.htm > > > > > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION IS MYTHOLOGY > > > > > >

    10/03/2005 09:28:20
    1. Re: [Dover] Web Search Engine Tips
    2. pearlbeard
    3. Thank you Dennis for this wonderful information!! Marie

    10/03/2005 05:37:19
    1. RE: [Dover] Web Search Engine Tips - Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham Co., GA
    2. Dennis Dover
    3. Using one of these tips came back with something immediately near the top of the first page of results that I was struggling with for the last few days ... the location of Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham County, Georgia. Read about Ebenezer after the following (there's also an Ebenezer Baptist Church somewhere in the area). I used "ebenezer methodist"+habersham to find the location answer. ***** The village of Hollywood has never been incorporated as a town, nor has it ever been platted as a town. It is not known when the community adopted the name of Hollywood, but it is believed to be in the early twentieth century. It was first called Ebenezer, which is the name of the Methodist Church that was started in 1818, the same year that Habersham County was charted. A small school was subsequently built near the church and Ebenezer was the focal point of the area. There were very few houses in the area now occupied by Hollywood before 1840. Most of the early pioneers located along Deep Creek, Panther Creek and Glade Creek. They were mostly farmers whose main objective was to produce enough to sustain their families and have a little extra to sell or trade for those items needed that could not be produced on the farm. This was pretty much the story until the Tallulah Falls Railway came through the area in 1892. This opened up a source of income as the trains needed cross ties for tracks and wood to fuel their engines. The trains offered transportation for sending goods to the markets, which previously had been accomplished by wagons over the Unicoi Turnpike. The name of the new train station became known as "Ebenezer Station." About this time, several apple orchards were planted and a cannery was built near the train station. A grist mill was built, as was a small store. Heretofore, the residents in the area went to the flour mill and post office at the "Franklin/Walker Lime Kiln." In time past, it had been an Indian commissary, which is located approximately two miles from Hollywood on Davidson Creek. About 1920, a new schoolhouse was built across the road from the depot, which burned a few years later and was replaced shortly thereafter. There are very few homes of historical significance left standing in the Hollywood area. Hollywood is doing well in modern times, however. It has a grammar school, Hollywood Baptist Church, Ebenezer Methodist Church, convenience stores, new water and gas lines, a regulation golf course and many new homes and condominiums. It is an interesting and friendly neighborhood. Submitted by George T. Grant, Clarkesville http://www.tourhabersham.com/pages/citieshollywood.html I'll throw something out that has no immediate answer, but possibly some big clues to follow through with. I have the microfilm that Bobbie Jean loaned me in another lifetime that is the 1834 poor school records for Habersham County. There's 700 plus names. First, old Habersham in 1834 included what became White County and included a sliver of Lumpkin County. The list (pages) show no location of the schools which were probably "church locations." The given names and ages are fooling because there's no way to identify most of the kids (a number of Dover) because the daughters married before 1850 and the sons may have moved. That includes other surnames. Most of the Dover's have no clue "where" they were for location when a number of them left before 1840 and for sure 1850. Best chance is to stab at locations as a census reference but that has been almost impossible to do so far. Maybe Ebenezer Methodist Church in the Hollywood area might include the surnames in the church records for a comparison with known census, isolate a probable location for the kids listed together. I feel the pain coming on this task. I started the transcription many months ago. There's only 12 images (pages) but some are hard to read. The poor school records from the microfilm are not anywhere on the internet and I doubt that many researchers have ever seen them. Are there six people with Habersham roots that would be willing to transcribe two pages each? I would be happy to send any or all of the images to anyone who is interested in helping. It might go really fast that way. ***** Habersham County Ebenezer Methodist Church About the time Habersham County was organized in 1818, Ebenezer Methodist Church was built across the highway from the present location on land owned by the Mathews Estate. No records can be found of the building committee or of the date the first church was built, but the information has been handed down to the oldest citizens and church members that Mr. Mathews gave permission for the church to be built on his property and that it probably remained there about 70 years until the church purchased 8.5 acres from EDWARD N. IVESTER in 1892. This church was at one time in the Dahlonega Charge. It has also been in the Elberton Charge and Gainesville Charge. Many pastors have served the church staying anywhere from 1 to 9 years. A deed was made on May 18, 1892, between EDWARD N. IVESTER and the Trustees of Ebenezer Church. The Trustees were: A. C. INGLIS, J. T. Smith, G. A. Anderson, J. R. Anderson, and MOSES FRANKLIN. They purchased the church lot and graveyard for the sum of $27.00. The deed states: "This land to be held in Trust, that said premises shall be used, kept, maintained and disposed of as a place of Divine Worship of the Methodist Episcopal Church, subject to the Discipline, Usage, and Ministerial Appointments of said Church." The deed was recorded on July 19, 1892. The church was moved back from the highway around 1927 at the time the highway was paved. http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahabers/churches/ebenezermethodist.htm A. C. INGLIS could be Alexander Inglis or maybe his son, the elder being the father-in-law of Robert Short Dover son of Jarrett Nelson Dover and Matilda Goodson son of Johnson Dover and Hulda Cross son of Francis J. Dover. Moses Franklin had a daughter and son that married Dover's ... Nancy to Edward Parker Dover and George to Nancy Elizabeth Dover, both children of Jarrett Nelson Dover. Correct and clarify where I'm wrong on this. ***** The following is a great cemetery database for Banks, Habersham and White counties in Georgia ... much on Habersham where the majority of the known burial plots for Dover AND allied are located at Ebenezer Methodist Church in Habersham. Some dob/dod that I have never seen before. So far, lots of Davidson and Dooly are there. The database is very big. I downloaded the entire database into a Word document that is 715 pages long ... for searching key words (cemetery name) instead of surname groups off the web. Also married Dover daughters are identified. http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahaber2/cemdb/01.htm

    10/03/2005 04:36:15
    1. Web Search Engine Tips
    2. Dennis Dover
    3. From another site shared by Wyndell Taylor. The first one I know about and use. The other tips are new to me. Please post the goodies if this helps. ********* SEARCH ENGINE TIPS by Mike Jarvis As genealogists in today's high-tech world, the importance of using search engines properly is ever increasing. With genealogy related web sites making up a huge part of our World Wide Web, we would like to share some search engine tips that perhaps a few you will find helpful. There is much that could be written about this, but we will focus only on a few tips that we find most helpful. We use [ and ] to indicate terms that would be written in a search box. First - The use of quotation marks. When using a combination of words in the search box, the search engine results will include every web page where these words occur anywhere on that page regardless of whether these words are immediately next to each other. Using the search term of [family history] will result in 109,000,000 hits while ["family history"] within quotations will result in 5,400,000 hits. This is because in the second instance it is only finding pages were the words are actually next to or immediately touching each other. Try this with a family name. For example my grandmother is named Flora MacDonald. If I search [Flora McDonald] in Google it returns 251,000 hits. Putting ["Flora MacDonald"] in quotations results in 29,600 hits. This is far too many hits and primarily relate to a prominent woman in Scottish and American history. This is not my grandmother. However, knowing that my grandmothers middle name was Hermosa, it makes sense to put ["Flora Hermosa MacDonald"] in the search box and I get two hits related specifically to my grandmother. Success! Second - The use of the minus sign. This is my second favorite search tip. Using any combination of words in a search box with the minus sign directly next to a word that you DO NOT want to find is also helpful. Using the search term ["Flora MacDonald" -Scotland -Scottish -"North Carolina" -NC ] will eliminate any pages from my search that includes the words next to the minus sign. So I will get only those pages that have my grandmother's name and do not have Scotland or North Carolina on the site. This effectively reduces the number of sites by more than half, from 29,600 to 12,800 hits. Using quotation marks and the minus sign in combination greatly improves your search results. Third - The use of the plus sign. The plus sign has the effect of instructing the search engine to give special emphasis to any word where the plus sign is against it. My grandmother's father was Alexander MacDonald. However, not the Alexander MacDonald who was prime minister of Canada. Using the search term [Flora MacDonald -Scotland -Scottish -"North Carolina" -NC +"Alexander MacDonald" -Canada ] gives me 1 hit that directs me to a +site about my grandmother. Here we have combined quotation marks with the minus sign and the plus sign Fourth - The site search. Let's say that I would like to find Alexander MacDonald, however, I only want to search a particular domain. I would simply use the search phrase ["Alexander MacDonald" site:rootsweb.com ]. Rather than thousands of hits I get 204. Similarly, you could put a minus sign in front of rootsweb.com so that it searches all domains except Rootsweb. Fifth - The intitle search term. Suppose that you would like to find every site on the Web with the word genealogy in the title. The search box would need the term [intitle:genealogy], which would result in 943,000 hits. Similarly, use the term [intitle:genealogy -site:ancestry.com] and you eliminate 3000

    10/03/2005 02:19:09
    1. Macon Co, NC
    2. Macon Co., NC in the American Civil War -- Index of soldiers _http://www.usgennet.org/usa/region/southeast/ncmacon/civilwar/_ (http://www.usgennet.org/usa/region/southeast/ncmacon/civilwar/) DOVER, S. W., 4th Cpl., Co. D, 62nd Regt. NC Troops, CSA

    10/02/2005 05:04:30
    1. B. Dover/Jefferson Co., MO 1883
    2. (Roots-L) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:52:57 EDT From: <Manessmchr@wmconnect.com> Subject: MISSOURI, Jefferson Co., BIRTHS & etc. Just to remind everyone -- Charlotte's "Pearls" are now archived permanently at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/usa_genealogy/mo_newspaper.htm - ------------------------------ Jefferson Democrat Hillsboro, Jefferson county, Missouri WEDNESDAY, 16 MAY 1883 The following preamble and resolutions were adopted at a recent meeting of Dry Creek Grange, No. 1827, of Jefferson county, Mo., in commemoration of the death of B. DOVER, who departed this live, April 27, 1883. Whereas, our Heavenly Father, in his infinite wisdom, has called from earth hence. Bro. B. DOVER; and Whereas, our brother was a faithful patron and zealous worker in the grange, from its very first organization in this county, and has served faithfully as secretary of this grange from its organization until his death; therefore, be it - Resolved, That in the death of Brother DOVER this grange has sustained an irreparable loss, which it deeply mourns; the family a kind husband and father, and the community at large one of its best citizens. Resolved, That to the family we extend our heartfelt sympathies, commending them to the Great Master Above. Resolved, that a record of this action be placed upon the minutes of this grange, and that a copy here of be furnished the "Jefferson Democrat" for publication. Francis CAMPBELL, John S. McKAY, Thomas M. BAKER [committee.]

    09/27/2005 08:20:31
    1. David Dover Sr.
    2. Mary Johnt
    3. Look for information on David Dorver Sr. born 1814/1815 in SC and died in AL. He was married to Sarah Sparks. They had the following children: Mary, David, Elizabeth, John Abel, Minerva, Missouri, Jonathan, Sarah S., William Harrison and Nancy. I also think he had a second wife, Mary Ann and they had a son Thomas. I would love to know who his parents were and where they came from. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mary J

    09/20/2005 01:36:35
    1. Royal DOVER line
    2. I have been going over old information, and researching sidelines of the DOVERs. One of my little projects has been looking at the children of Royal DOVER and looking into their spouses and children's comings and goings hoping for a clue. Back in 1998, Dennis sent me a chart from the World Family Tree series, volume 6 tree 1226 for the descendants of Royal DOVER thru his son James L DOVER. I have looked into his wife Molly S. Ray, who had quite a line of husbands. She married first, James Marion WEST, in 1876. She was living back with her parents Joseph L. RAY and Cassander FRANKLIN RAY for the 1880 census. She had 2 children, Cassander and Hester J. WEST. It appears that there was a divorce ( I have sent for records), because JM WEST was alive and well, and remarried in 1879. In 1880, James L. DOVER was living with this family as a farm laborer. She married James L. DOVER on December 28, 1884. We knew she had a son Decatur D. in Newport, Tennessee 1891, and that James L. DOVER died there in Tennessee. I sent for a death record for Molly DOVER as the information from the World Family Tree stated that she died in Buncombe Co, in 1925. They did not have the record. Hmmm, I thought. I looked in census records, and could find no sign of Decatur Dover. I got creative, and looked up his wife, "Sue Dover" in the 1820 census in Buncombe, and I found her, and Decatur (his name must have been mis-indexed). I also found in the same home Mollie HOLLIEFIELD (the head of this household was a Bob RAY). I went back in time, and found that Mollie married a John HOLLIEFIELD , and the whole family is listed as HOLLIFIELD in the 1900 census in Marshall, Madison Co. NC. The children were listed as Virgie, stepdaughter, born 1876 (has to be one of the two WEST girls), James W. stepson, born 1887 (HAS TO BE A DOVER!), and Decatur D. stepson, born 1889 (definitely a DOVER). There was also a border Maudie WEST, age 5. Now, I got looking at census info, and found in the census from 1910, 1920, Madison Co, Grapevine Twp, and in 1930 in Marshall, a James DOVER, (birth year varies from 1883. 84, and 89 on the different census years) and wife Lucinda (Cindy, Sindy) with children Clinton b. 1913, Grace b.1915, Howard b.1918, Harry b. 1921, and Frankie .b.1925 (female). Now, I am not sure that this is Royal's son James, does anyone have anything to tie this particular James to someone else? Perhaps there are living male DOVERs from this line???? I am sure I can do more to research this line. I only stumbled on this in my boredom, reading census information just this afternoon. I would LOVE to find out when this James DOVER died, and send for a death record. Anyone have cemetery listings? I will be posting this question on the Madison Co. board tonight as well. Any thoughts??? Kathy in Illinois

    09/18/2005 02:17:48
    1. Dover Property in Gilmer Co., GA
    2. Dennis Dover
    3. This one goes in the record books for coincidences. The two legal descriptions below are identical for two different Dover ownerships a 100+ years apart, now connected by DNA. This is on Land Lot 251, Section 2, District 10 in Gilmer County, Georgia. January 15, 1839: Jonathan Cox and Jonathan D. Chastain to Francis Dover, Lot 251, Section 10/2 Owner Name DOVER (EST) CARL W MRS CHATSWORTH HWY ELLIJAY, GA 30540 Location Address CHATSWORTH HWY Legal Description 10-2 LL 251 This property is located near Summner Way. Francis Dover was Francis Marion Dover who was married 1830 in Rutherford Co., NC at White Oak near Hezekiah Dover. Carl Woodfin Dover was a descendant of Frederick & Margaret Dover who were on Newfound Creek in Buncombe Co. in 1830 & 1850. The adjoining lot to Francis was owned by Abram/Abraham Pence married to Lydia Triplett. Abraham's parents were apparently Abraham and Elizabeth Pence who were next door neighbors of John Dover in 1800 Pendleton, SC not far from Francis J. Dover. Abraham and Elizabeth apparently went to Newfound Creek in Buncombe County, NC. Elizabeth and three of her sons were in Habersham County, Georgia until 1830 when Elizabeth and two of her sons came to Gilmer County. The third son went to Cherokee Co., GA. This lot is apparently the first land purchase by Francis in Gilmer County since he acquired additional property just East of Ellijay a little later.

    09/15/2005 01:13:19