For those of you who have Dover / Cross connections, please know that the Cross data that was posted yesterday is full of wrong information so don't just add it to your data. The most important thing for the Francis J Dover descendants to remember is that there has been absolutely nothing to date to explain what the "J" in his name stands for. If someone has proof of what his full name was with some kind of documentation, please share it with the rest of us. I know "Johnson" was a guess from a researcher named Margaret Stewart back about 40 years ago who included it in her book just because he had a son named Johnson -- not because anybody knew it for fact or found documentation showing that to be his name. It got posted on a website and I'm sure you can guess the rest of that story. The father of the Cross kids is not a John Thomas Cross b in Kings Mountain, NC and there is no such person as Jesse William Robert Cross. This Jesse William Robert Cross name is another of those things posted on the internet that has spread like wildfire by those who choose to collect names and do no research of their own. While I'm at it, I might as well tell you that there has been no Indian maiden named Manoish found connected to this family either. The Cross group that I work with was able to document the parents of the Cross kids who md Francis J Dover's kids a few months back with a deed in Henry Co, GA where one of the sons was deeding some property to his parents for their use as long as they lived in 1824. The deed named both the mother & father and included several referals to them as his parents. This is the line up of the Cross family at this time --- PARENTS -- JOHN CROSS / NANCY ___? KNOWN CHILDREN -- HULDA CROSS b ca 1788 SC md Johnson DOVER ca 1810--1814 in SC. First child b ca 1811--1815 in SC. REBECCA CROSS b ca 1789 SC md James Brownlow 22 Oct 1813 in Pendleton Dist, SC THOMAS CROSS b ca 1789 SC md Rebecca DOVER 20 September 1812 in Pendleton Dist, SC JANE CROSS (not proven but family tradition) b ca 1790 - 1800 md Anderson DOVER in SC ca 1816. First child born 1817 in SC NANCY ELIZABETH CROSS b ca 1794 - 1804 md Richard Wade Wallace ca 1812 in Pendleton Dist SC. JESSE CROSS b ca 1797 SC md Celia DOVER in 1819 Hab Co, GA. ROBERT CROSS b ca 1803 GA md Elizabeth Longino 19 May 1825 in Henry Co, GA NOTE: Jane (Cross) Dover is the only child in this group that is not backed up by records proving that they are all siblings. From other deeds found we know that John & Nancy Cross were in Franklin Co, GA at least from 1802 - 1805 which would also explain the birth of son Robert Cross who maintained thoughout the census that he was born in GA. Notice all the other children except Robert claimed to have been born in SC. Three of the Cross kids have documented marriages that took place in Pendleton Dist SC so it would appear that the Cross family left GA and returned to SC at some point in order for the kids to meet and marry their mates in Pendleton Dist. No earlier information is known at this time about the parents John & Nancy Cross. There were a number of Thomas Cross descendants who filed Cherokee claims through him. I have copies of many of those and the amount of Indian blood they are claiming for Thomas Cross varies from 1/4 to 3/4 depending on who is telling the story. All claims that were filed through Thomas Cross were denied. None of the claims that I have seen name his parents or mentions anything at all about them. One claim I have was filed by Thomas's dau Talitha (Cross) Whitworth. Talitha named her DOVER grandparents in her claim but left blanks for the names of her CROSS grandparents. I don't doubt that Thomas must have been part Indian because of the number of claims that were filed, but there is nothing in any of the ones that I have seen that says which of his parents was Indian. I sort of think that if these descendants who filed these claims nearly 100 years ago knew that information at the time of their filing, they would have included it because it was all about getting the Gov money that was being offered to them. I am not aware of any claims that were filed through any of the other Cross siblings at this time. I have yet to see a claim that was filed directly through Francis J Dover or his wife who was "a Posey" according to Jesse Mercer Green, grandson of Anderson Dover. Mary Mullinax does not appear to be the wife of Francis J Dover until sometime between 1830 - 1838 after his children were all grown and having their own families. The claim of Mary L Fox, Thomas's granddaughter, is the only claim through Thomas Cross who mentions a possible Indian connection for Francis J Dover seen so far. I have seen some earlier correspondence to a Cross researcher by Bill Dover that Dennis just posted where he claimed that the only reason Francis J Dover was allowed to come into Indian territory was because of his mixed blood son-in-law Thomas Cross and the Cross family prior to this article in the Hab Co Heritage book. It is my belief, after years of research, that Jarrett Nelson Dover of the article was the grandson and not the son of Francis J Dover -- he was just too young. There is never a male his age found in the household of FJD. He does however fit quite nicely into the household of Johnson Dover / Hulda Cross in every census and is removed at the proper time to correspond with his marriage. From what Dennis posted -- Indian connections fathers side: Thomas Cross, Nicholas Whisenant Indian connections mothers side: Rebecca Dover, Nancy Willson NOTE: I just looked at the original record on this one because I didn't remember that particular wording. It actually reads --- 16. State English and Indian names of your grandparents on both father's and mother's side, if possible: Father's Side: Thos Cross Nicoles Whisenant Mother's Side: Cherokee Hannah -- that name is marked through -- and above it is written Rebecca Dover Nancy Willson NOTE: The Whisenant family info says that Nancy THOMPSON was the # 2 wife of Nicholas Whisenant who was the father of Mary L Fox's father, George Whisenant. I have no idea which is correct. In answer to Gayle's question about where the Kells & Dovers reference is found --- It's on the page "Suplemental Application for Minor Children" filed by Mary L Fox and dated 20 June 1910. The question --- 10. Were they ever enrolled for money, annuities, land, or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians: Kells and Dovers were enrolled. (no other data given) NOTE: There is no other reference to Kell in any of the other claims that I have seen so far. ------------------------------------- There are still many mysteries surrounding this line of family that have yet to be solved. It's going to take a lot more digging for records to be able to prove these things and solve these mysteries. Sharon S

Dennis, The Cherokee connection with Bill Dover was negated when he was found not to have Cherokee blood at all. This was a big issue down here several years ago. It was in all the newspapers. Also, I have Cherokee by Blood and am curious where "Answer: Kells and Dovers were enrolled" can be found? All of my info shows only their rejections. It is strange how the Cherokee claims keep on repeating among the Dovers. Which DNA group of the Dovers shows Native American via the Dover men? -------Original Message------- From: Dennis Dover Date: 11/29/05 12:50:36 To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Dover] Francis Dover - 1/2 Cherokee? This appears to be the source of part of what was said in the message. It was submitted by Bill Dover in Timbrook (Habersham) for the current edition of the history of Habersham County several years ago. Family lore is one thing I will not argue with no matter what I might think one way and/or the other way. I have family lore and opinions too. I have never found any proof of the historical statements made by Bill in this piece or in several of the letters or conversations that we have had over recent years. In addition, there has never been any source given for any these statements other than family lore. For perspective, Bill Dover is the former Chief of the Cherokee Nation (Bear Clan I recall). I don't really recall any hard statements by Bill to me or others that I am aware of prior to the publication of the revised Habersham history that starts off with the first sentence. I'm pretty sure of the source of this first statement that could have been the Mary L. Fox Claim No. 9578 that is a contradiction of statements by her in 1908. I say I am sure of the source because I sent it to Bill for comment and never received a reply. DOVER FAMILY A BRIEF HISTORY In 1760, a half White, half Cherokee baby, named Francis John Dover, was born on the Haw River near Kings Mountain, North Carolina. Francis John Dover went to war in the South Carolina Militia in 1776 and two years later joined the Continental Army as a seasoned veteran. Francis John fought in several of the major battles of the up-state South Carolina area including the Battle of Cowpens. He was somewhat of an enigma since his mother's Indian family were staunch loyalists, but his choice was to cast his lot with his father’s people; however, he would never go on raids into Indian Country out of respect for his mother. After marriage to a lady named Polly Mullinax, Francis John farmed and reared his family in Pendleton District, South Carolina, where they lived until 1812, when his oldest son-in-law, Thomas Cross, also a mixed blood, prepared to join Andrew Jackson against the British at New Orleans and the Red Stick Creeks at the Battle of the Horseshoe. For safety and a better place to live, Francis John moved his family into Cherokee Territory on Deep Creek, in what would five years later become part of Georgia by the Treaty of 1817, and thus, became the first legal resident of Habersham as we know it today. It is amazing that a 52 year old, at that time, would have made such a difficult move, but apparently, Francis John wanted the physical and emotional security of being among his Indian kinsmen during the upcoming War of 1812. Upon settling in what would become Habersham County, Georgia, Francis Dover occupied an Indian Head Right that covered much of present Northeast Habersham County, including the entire Deep Creek watershed. Frances John lived out his later years, 1812-1851, with his eldest child, Rebecca Dover and Thomas Cross, who survived the War of 1812 and the Battle with the Creeks at the Horseshoe. Rebecca and Thomas Cross and Jarrett Nelson and Matilda Goodson Dover were the only two of Francis John's children to remain in Old Cherokee Country. Two of his families of children went to Arkansas Territory with their Cherokee kinsmen, and the other six children and their families moved further west in Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas. Why the Thomas Cross and Jarrett Nelson Dover families were allowed to remain is only speculation; perhaps Uncle Thomas' service to Jackson allowed them to be overlooked. From Francis John have descended prominent pioneer families that remain here today. Franklins, Shirleys, Davidsons, Crosses, Ivesters, Smiths, Dooleys, Scotts, Domores, Densmores, Sosebees, Taylors, and Dovers. From the Revolution to the Vietnam Era. Francis John and his sons have been warriors: Francis John Dover, Revolution, 1776-1782; Thomas Cross, War of 1812, 1812-1814; Robert S. Dover, War of Yankee Aggression, 1861-1865; Uncle Ernest Dover, World War I, 1917.1918; Our Dad Ernest Dover, World War II, 1943.1944; Claude Dover, World War II, 1942-1945; Arthur Dover, World War II, 1942-1944; Clarence Dover, World War II, 1943-1944; Willard Jack Dover, Korean War, 1950.1953; Bill Dover, Vietnam Era/Korea, 1968-1970; Richard Dover - John Dover, Vietnam, 1968-1969; Ross Dover, DAV US Army, 1972-1974. This is a brief and partial list of Francis John's warriors. This writer is proud to be from a long line of combat veterans even though the U.S. Flag has flown over the most inhumane and infamous treatment in the country's history, it's overt attempt to eradicate our native kinsmen. The greatest strengths of our family have always been strong faith in our Creator and the women we have been fortunate enough to marry and help bear. Francis John's wife, Polly Mullinax, had to have been strong and brave to live with an adventurer and pioneer. Polly's daughter-in-law, Matilda Goodson Dover was the "seed woman' for the Hollywood Community from the early 1800's until after the Civil War. Matilda's daughter-in-law, Mary Inglis Dover, was the daughter of wealthy coastal folks who moved into Habersham in the 1840's. Her family was shocked that she fell in love with and married Robert Dover, who became the community blacksmith after serving in the Confederate Army. Mary and Robert took care of Grandpa and Grandma Inglis in their elder years, and they came to appreciate their native son-in-law. Robert and Mary's baby, Maria Dover, was this writer’s paternal grandmother, who passed on this information and taught us the survival skills that had come down from Francis John. Grandma could make very little resources go a long way. We always had plenty to eat at her house, often the food would be wild game and home grown fruits and vegetables, but we were so thankful to her and God for his bounty and her stewardship. Maria's daughter-in-law, Louise Smith Dover, a native descendent also, taught us, her seven children, Mary, Bill, Dick, John, Ross, Sherry, and Marie, that work is fun and rewarding. She encouraged us to live upright lives and expand our learning at every available opportunity. She taught us to love the Mother Earth and respect our fellow beings, be they human or non-human. Our Pa taught us to tell the truth, pay our debts, and we were better than no one and no one was better than us. Louise's daughter-in-law, Suzanne Knight Dover, has born, loved and reared tour beautiful children, Oaky, Fairlight, Rebecca and Neil. During the 18½ years that we served Habersham, White, Banks, and Stephens Counties in the Georgia Legislature, she kept our farm running, helped care for our precious mother, Eula G. Knight, been active in New Liberty Methodist Church, and taught all of us that Beauty is it's own reason to exist. The First Lady of Timbrook is my best friend, truest counselor and the most "integritous" person I have ever known. Suzanne, I love you and … ****************************************** Cherokee by Blood P. 351 #9578. Mary L. Fox and 2 children, Newport, Ga. Rejected. It does not appear that any ancestor was a part to the treaties of 1835-36-46, nor does it appear that any ancestor was ever enrolled. [NOTE: this page of testimony is very dark and difficult to read] MISC. TEST. P. 1442 No 9578 [?] - Mary L. Fox: "I am 54 years of age; was born in Habersham Co., Ga. I claim Cherokee Indian blood through my mother. My mother lived in Habersham Co., Ga. Neither my mother nor myself ever received any Indian money. I do not think my mother ever tried to get any. Rebecca Dover [?] was the Indian. I remember my grandmother. She lived in Habersham County, 7 miles from Clarksville. She lived there with the Indians when they were taken away. I have a record of this. My mother could remember when the Indians were taken away. My grandmother was half Indian. Only the full bloods were taken away. We left there when I was small. My parents told me of my Indian blood as far back as I can remember. Ten years before the war we lived in Habersham County*. I never heard of Hester, the enrolling agent[?]." SIGNED: Mary L. Fox, Blue Ridge, [Fannin County] Ga., Jul 11 1908. January 25, 1908 Dear Sir: My mother was born in Feb. 1818 or 1820 Habersham Co Ga. She was enrolled but do not no when and where. My Grandparents on mothers side resided in Habersham Co Ga. in 1835. In 1851 they resided in Habersham Co. Ga. My Uncles and Aunts on my mothers side is as follows Starit Cross Mary Fry Singleton Cross Caswell Cross Hambleton Cross Francis Stewart Hannah Evett Talitha Whitworth I send and an application for enrollment with the Cherokees about 30 years ago. I do not know whether any of my people have been slaves. Respt. Mary L. Fox No date Mary states: Francis Dover my great Grandfather was a 1/2 Blood Cherokee Indian according to what I have been taught. Application No. 9578 of Mary L. Fox received January 8, 1907 Born September 7, 1854 Habersham County, Georgia Claims through Thos. Cross (grandfather) 1/4 blood Indian born North Carolina Married to John Fox, 70 years of age Father: George Whisenant, born South Carolina, died April 28, 1877 Mother: Malinda Cross, born Georgia, died April 15, 1885 Brothers and sisters: Davison, Rebecca Nix, Thomas, Sara Ellis, James, M. C. Indian connections fathers side: Thomas Cross, Nicholas Whisenant Indian connections mothers side: Rebecca Dover, Nancy Willson Remarks: my grandfather Thomas Cross was 1/4 Indian, his wife was 1/4 Indian Supplemental Application June 20, 1910 Children: John M. Fox, August 5, 1885 Millie W. Fox, September 14, 1888 L. Gertrude Fox, July 7, 1890 Question: "Were they ever enrolled for money, annuities, land, or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians:" Answer: Kells and Dovers were enrolled ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Dover list home page http://pages.cthome.net/familytree/

Gayle, no male Dover DNA shows any Native American. I went so far as to get Native American results within my other DNA markers and it came back so minor as to barely be above zero with decimals. That surprised me. I "think" I know better in my family. Some of the Kell's supposedly have Cherokee but the closest I have come for location and time with Dover/Kell is old Pendleton, Rabun Co. and Gilmer Co. I asked Bill Dover about the Kells, one of the reasons for sending him the Mary Fox claim. There has to be Cherokee family connections, so I'm not in denial about that at all. I would be the last one to take that position. -----Original Message----- From: Gayle Calabrese [mailto:gaelcee1@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:12 AM To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Dover] Francis Dover - 1/2 Cherokee? Dennis, The Cherokee connection with Bill Dover was negated when he was found not to have Cherokee blood at all. This was a big issue down here several years ago. It was in all the newspapers. Also I have Cherokee by Blood and am curious where "Answer: Kells and Dovers were enrolled" can be found? All of my info shows only their rejections. It is strange how the Cherokee claims keep on repeating among the Dovers. Which DNA group of the Dovers shows Native American via the Dover men?

Hi, I'm new to this but our family lore says that I had a great great grandmother that was Cherokee who married our Dover ancestor and when he died she rocked herself until she died of a broken heart. So I am interested in this as well. Thanks. Vicki -----Original Message----- From: Gayle Calabrese <gaelcee1@bellsouth.net> Sent: Nov 29, 2005 11:11 AM To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Dover] Francis Dover - 1/2 Cherokee? Dennis, The Cherokee connection with Bill Dover was negated when he was found not to have Cherokee blood at all. This was a big issue down here several years ago. It was in all the newspapers. Also, I have Cherokee by Blood and am curious where "Answer: Kells and Dovers were enrolled" can be found? All of my info shows only their rejections. It is strange how the Cherokee claims keep on repeating among the Dovers. Which DNA group of the Dovers shows Native American via the Dover men? -------Original Message------- From: Dennis Dover Date: 11/29/05 12:50:36 To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Dover] Francis Dover - 1/2 Cherokee? This appears to be the source of part of what was said in the message. It was submitted by Bill Dover in Timbrook (Habersham) for the current edition of the history of Habersham County several years ago. Family lore is one thing I will not argue with no matter what I might think one way and/or the other way. I have family lore and opinions too. I have never found any proof of the historical statements made by Bill in this piece or in several of the letters or conversations that we have had over recent years. In addition, there has never been any source given for any these statements other than family lore. For perspective, Bill Dover is the former Chief of the Cherokee Nation (Bear Clan I recall). I don't really recall any hard statements by Bill to me or others that I am aware of prior to the publication of the revised Habersham history that starts off with the first sentence. I'm pretty sure of the source of this first statement that could have been the Mary L. Fox Claim No. 9578 that is a contradiction of statements by her in 1908. I say I am sure of the source because I sent it to Bill for comment and never received a reply. DOVER FAMILY A BRIEF HISTORY In 1760, a half White, half Cherokee baby, named Francis John Dover, was born on the Haw River near Kings Mountain, North Carolina. Francis John Dover went to war in the South Carolina Militia in 1776 and two years later joined the Continental Army as a seasoned veteran. Francis John fought in several of the major battles of the up-state South Carolina area including the Battle of Cowpens. He was somewhat of an enigma since his mother's Indian family were staunch loyalists, but his choice was to cast his lot with his father’s people; however, he would never go on raids into Indian Country out of respect for his mother. After marriage to a lady named Polly Mullinax, Francis John farmed and reared his family in Pendleton District, South Carolina, where they lived until 1812, when his oldest son-in-law, Thomas Cross, also a mixed blood, prepared to join Andrew Jackson against the British at New Orleans and the Red Stick Creeks at the Battle of the Horseshoe. For safety and a better place to live, Francis John moved his family into Cherokee Territory on Deep Creek, in what would five years later become part of Georgia by the Treaty of 1817, and thus, became the first legal resident of Habersham as we know it today. It is amazing that a 52 year old, at that time, would have made such a difficult move, but apparently, Francis John wanted the physical and emotional security of being among his Indian kinsmen during the upcoming War of 1812. Upon settling in what would become Habersham County, Georgia, Francis Dover occupied an Indian Head Right that covered much of present Northeast Habersham County, including the entire Deep Creek watershed. Frances John lived out his later years, 1812-1851, with his eldest child, Rebecca Dover and Thomas Cross, who survived the War of 1812 and the Battle with the Creeks at the Horseshoe. Rebecca and Thomas Cross and Jarrett Nelson and Matilda Goodson Dover were the only two of Francis John's children to remain in Old Cherokee Country. Two of his families of children went to Arkansas Territory with their Cherokee kinsmen, and the other six children and their families moved further west in Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas. Why the Thomas Cross and Jarrett Nelson Dover families were allowed to remain is only speculation; perhaps Uncle Thomas' service to Jackson allowed them to be overlooked. From Francis John have descended prominent pioneer families that remain here today. Franklins, Shirleys, Davidsons, Crosses, Ivesters, Smiths, Dooleys, Scotts, Domores, Densmores, Sosebees, Taylors, and Dovers. From the Revolution to the Vietnam Era. Francis John and his sons have been warriors: Francis John Dover, Revolution, 1776-1782; Thomas Cross, War of 1812, 1812-1814; Robert S. Dover, War of Yankee Aggression, 1861-1865; Uncle Ernest Dover, World War I, 1917.1918; Our Dad Ernest Dover, World War II, 1943.1944; Claude Dover, World War II, 1942-1945; Arthur Dover, World War II, 1942-1944; Clarence Dover, World War II, 1943-1944; Willard Jack Dover, Korean War, 1950.1953; Bill Dover, Vietnam Era/Korea, 1968-1970; Richard Dover - John Dover, Vietnam, 1968-1969; Ross Dover, DAV US Army, 1972-1974. This is a brief and partial list of Francis John's warriors. This writer is proud to be from a long line of combat veterans even though the U.S. Flag has flown over the most inhumane and infamous treatment in the country's history, it's overt attempt to eradicate our native kinsmen. The greatest strengths of our family have always been strong faith in our Creator and the women we have been fortunate enough to marry and help bear. Francis John's wife, Polly Mullinax, had to have been strong and brave to live with an adventurer and pioneer. Polly's daughter-in-law, Matilda Goodson Dover was the "seed woman' for the Hollywood Community from the early 1800's until after the Civil War. Matilda's daughter-in-law, Mary Inglis Dover, was the daughter of wealthy coastal folks who moved into Habersham in the 1840's. Her family was shocked that she fell in love with and married Robert Dover, who became the community blacksmith after serving in the Confederate Army. Mary and Robert took care of Grandpa and Grandma Inglis in their elder years, and they came to appreciate their native son-in-law. Robert and Mary's baby, Maria Dover, was this writer’s paternal grandmother, who passed on this information and taught us the survival skills that had come down from Francis John. Grandma could make very little resources go a long way. We always had plenty to eat at her house, often the food would be wild game and home grown fruits and vegetables, but we were so thankful to her and God for his bounty and her stewardship. Maria's daughter-in-law, Louise Smith Dover, a native descendent also, taught us, her seven children, Mary, Bill, Dick, John, Ross, Sherry, and Marie, that work is fun and rewarding. She encouraged us to live upright lives and expand our learning at every available opportunity. She taught us to love the Mother Earth and respect our fellow beings, be they human or non-human. Our Pa taught us to tell the truth, pay our debts, and we were better than no one and no one was better than us. Louise's daughter-in-law, Suzanne Knight Dover, has born, loved and reared tour beautiful children, Oaky, Fairlight, Rebecca and Neil. During the 18½ years that we served Habersham, White, Banks, and Stephens Counties in the Georgia Legislature, she kept our farm running, helped care for our precious mother, Eula G. Knight, been active in New Liberty Methodist Church, and taught all of us that Beauty is it's own reason to exist. The First Lady of Timbrook is my best friend, truest counselor and the most "integritous" person I have ever known. Suzanne, I love you and … ****************************************** Cherokee by Blood P. 351 #9578. Mary L. Fox and 2 children, Newport, Ga. Rejected. It does not appear that any ancestor was a part to the treaties of 1835-36-46, nor does it appear that any ancestor was ever enrolled. [NOTE: this page of testimony is very dark and difficult to read] MISC. TEST. P. 1442 No 9578 [?] - Mary L. Fox: "I am 54 years of age; was born in Habersham Co., Ga. I claim Cherokee Indian blood through my mother. My mother lived in Habersham Co., Ga. Neither my mother nor myself ever received any Indian money. I do not think my mother ever tried to get any. Rebecca Dover [?] was the Indian. I remember my grandmother. She lived in Habersham County, 7 miles from Clarksville. She lived there with the Indians when they were taken away. I have a record of this. My mother could remember when the Indians were taken away. My grandmother was half Indian. Only the full bloods were taken away. We left there when I was small. My parents told me of my Indian blood as far back as I can remember. Ten years before the war we lived in Habersham County*. I never heard of Hester, the enrolling agent[?]." SIGNED: Mary L. Fox, Blue Ridge, [Fannin County] Ga., Jul 11 1908. January 25, 1908 Dear Sir: My mother was born in Feb. 1818 or 1820 Habersham Co Ga. She was enrolled but do not no when and where. My Grandparents on mothers side resided in Habersham Co Ga. in 1835. In 1851 they resided in Habersham Co. Ga. My Uncles and Aunts on my mothers side is as follows Starit Cross Mary Fry Singleton Cross Caswell Cross Hambleton Cross Francis Stewart Hannah Evett Talitha Whitworth I send and an application for enrollment with the Cherokees about 30 years ago. I do not know whether any of my people have been slaves. Respt. Mary L. Fox No date Mary states: Francis Dover my great Grandfather was a 1/2 Blood Cherokee Indian according to what I have been taught. Application No. 9578 of Mary L. Fox received January 8, 1907 Born September 7, 1854 Habersham County, Georgia Claims through Thos. Cross (grandfather) 1/4 blood Indian born North Carolina Married to John Fox, 70 years of age Father: George Whisenant, born South Carolina, died April 28, 1877 Mother: Malinda Cross, born Georgia, died April 15, 1885 Brothers and sisters: Davison, Rebecca Nix, Thomas, Sara Ellis, James, M. C. Indian connections fathers side: Thomas Cross, Nicholas Whisenant Indian connections mothers side: Rebecca Dover, Nancy Willson Remarks: my grandfather Thomas Cross was 1/4 Indian, his wife was 1/4 Indian Supplemental Application June 20, 1910 Children: John M. Fox, August 5, 1885 Millie W. Fox, September 14, 1888 L. Gertrude Fox, July 7, 1890 Question: "Were they ever enrolled for money, annuities, land, or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians:" Answer: Kells and Dovers were enrolled ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Dover list home page http://pages.cthome.net/familytree/ ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Dover resources at surname web http://www.surnameweb.org/registry/d/o/v/dover.shtml

This appears to be the source of part of what was said in the message. It was submitted by Bill Dover in Timbrook (Habersham) for the current edition of the history of Habersham County several years ago. Family lore is one thing I will not argue with no matter what I might think one way and/or the other way. I have family lore and opinions too. I have never found any proof of the historical statements made by Bill in this piece or in several of the letters or conversations that we have had over recent years. In addition, there has never been any source given for any these statements other than family lore. For perspective, Bill Dover is the former Chief of the Cherokee Nation (Bear Clan I recall). I don't really recall any hard statements by Bill to me or others that I am aware of prior to the publication of the revised Habersham history that starts off with the first sentence. I'm pretty sure of the source of this first statement that could have been the Mary L. Fox Claim No. 9578 that is a contradiction of statements by her in 1908. I say I am sure of the source because I sent it to Bill for comment and never received a reply. DOVER FAMILY A BRIEF HISTORY In 1760, a half White, half Cherokee baby, named Francis John Dover, was born on the Haw River near Kings Mountain, North Carolina. Francis John Dover went to war in the South Carolina Militia in 1776 and two years later joined the Continental Army as a seasoned veteran. Francis John fought in several of the major battles of the up-state South Carolina area including the Battle of Cowpens. He was somewhat of an enigma since his mother's Indian family were staunch loyalists, but his choice was to cast his lot with his father’s people; however, he would never go on raids into Indian Country out of respect for his mother. After marriage to a lady named Polly Mullinax, Francis John farmed and reared his family in Pendleton District, South Carolina, where they lived until 1812, when his oldest son-in-law, Thomas Cross, also a mixed blood, prepared to join Andrew Jackson against the British at New Orleans and the Red Stick Creeks at the Battle of the Horseshoe. For safety and a better place to live, Francis John moved his family into Cherokee Territory on Deep Creek, in what would five years later become part of Georgia by the Treaty of 1817, and thus, became the first legal resident of Habersham as we know it today. It is amazing that a 52 year old, at that time, would have made such a difficult move, but apparently, Francis John wanted the physical and emotional security of being among his Indian kinsmen during the upcoming War of 1812. Upon settling in what would become Habersham County, Georgia, Francis Dover occupied an Indian Head Right that covered much of present Northeast Habersham County, including the entire Deep Creek watershed. Frances John lived out his later years, 1812-1851, with his eldest child, Rebecca Dover and Thomas Cross, who survived the War of 1812 and the Battle with the Creeks at the Horseshoe. Rebecca and Thomas Cross and Jarrett Nelson and Matilda Goodson Dover were the only two of Francis John's children to remain in Old Cherokee Country. Two of his families of children went to Arkansas Territory with their Cherokee kinsmen, and the other six children and their families moved further west in Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas. Why the Thomas Cross and Jarrett Nelson Dover families were allowed to remain is only speculation; perhaps Uncle Thomas' service to Jackson allowed them to be overlooked. From Francis John have descended prominent pioneer families that remain here today. Franklins, Shirleys, Davidsons, Crosses, Ivesters, Smiths, Dooleys, Scotts, Domores, Densmores, Sosebees, Taylors, and Dovers. From the Revolution to the Vietnam Era. Francis John and his sons have been warriors: Francis John Dover, Revolution, 1776-1782; Thomas Cross, War of 1812, 1812-1814; Robert S. Dover, War of Yankee Aggression, 1861-1865; Uncle Ernest Dover, World War I, 1917.1918; Our Dad Ernest Dover, World War II, 1943.1944; Claude Dover, World War II, 1942-1945; Arthur Dover, World War II, 1942-1944; Clarence Dover, World War II, 1943-1944; Willard Jack Dover, Korean War, 1950.1953; Bill Dover, Vietnam Era/Korea, 1968-1970; Richard Dover - John Dover, Vietnam, 1968-1969; Ross Dover, DAV US Army, 1972-1974. This is a brief and partial list of Francis John's warriors. This writer is proud to be from a long line of combat veterans even though the U.S. Flag has flown over the most inhumane and infamous treatment in the country's history, it's overt attempt to eradicate our native kinsmen. The greatest strengths of our family have always been strong faith in our Creator and the women we have been fortunate enough to marry and help bear. Francis John's wife, Polly Mullinax, had to have been strong and brave to live with an adventurer and pioneer. Polly's daughter-in-law, Matilda Goodson Dover was the "seed woman' for the Hollywood Community from the early 1800's until after the Civil War. Matilda's daughter-in-law, Mary Inglis Dover, was the daughter of wealthy coastal folks who moved into Habersham in the 1840's. Her family was shocked that she fell in love with and married Robert Dover, who became the community blacksmith after serving in the Confederate Army. Mary and Robert took care of Grandpa and Grandma Inglis in their elder years, and they came to appreciate their native son-in-law. Robert and Mary's baby, Maria Dover, was this writer’s paternal grandmother, who passed on this information and taught us the survival skills that had come down from Francis John. Grandma could make very little resources go a long way. We always had plenty to eat at her house, often the food would be wild game and home grown fruits and vegetables, but we were so thankful to her and God for his bounty and her stewardship. Maria's daughter-in-law, Louise Smith Dover, a native descendent also, taught us, her seven children, Mary, Bill, Dick, John, Ross, Sherry, and Marie, that work is fun and rewarding. She encouraged us to live upright lives and expand our learning at every available opportunity. She taught us to love the Mother Earth and respect our fellow beings, be they human or non-human. Our Pa taught us to tell the truth, pay our debts, and we were better than no one and no one was better than us. Louise's daughter-in-law, Suzanne Knight Dover, has born, loved and reared tour beautiful children, Oaky, Fairlight, Rebecca and Neil. During the 18½ years that we served Habersham, White, Banks, and Stephens Counties in the Georgia Legislature, she kept our farm running, helped care for our precious mother, Eula G. Knight, been active in New Liberty Methodist Church, and taught all of us that Beauty is it's own reason to exist. The First Lady of Timbrook is my best friend, truest counselor and the most "integritous" person I have ever known. Suzanne, I love you and … ****************************************** Cherokee by Blood P. 351 #9578. Mary L. Fox and 2 children, Newport, Ga. Rejected. It does not appear that any ancestor was a part to the treaties of 1835-36-46, nor does it appear that any ancestor was ever enrolled. [NOTE: this page of testimony is very dark and difficult to read] MISC. TEST. P. 1442 No 9578 [?] - Mary L. Fox: "I am 54 years of age; was born in Habersham Co., Ga. I claim Cherokee Indian blood through my mother. My mother lived in Habersham Co., Ga. Neither my mother nor myself ever received any Indian money. I do not think my mother ever tried to get any. Rebecca Dover [?] was the Indian. I remember my grandmother. She lived in Habersham County, 7 miles from Clarksville. She lived there with the Indians when they were taken away. I have a record of this. My mother could remember when the Indians were taken away. My grandmother was half Indian. Only the full bloods were taken away. We left there when I was small. My parents told me of my Indian blood as far back as I can remember. Ten years before the war we lived in Habersham County*. I never heard of Hester, the enrolling agent[?]." SIGNED: Mary L. Fox, Blue Ridge, [Fannin County] Ga., Jul 11 1908. January 25, 1908 Dear Sir: My mother was born in Feb. 1818 or 1820 Habersham Co Ga. She was enrolled but do not no when and where. My Grandparents on mothers side resided in Habersham Co Ga. in 1835. In 1851 they resided in Habersham Co. Ga. My Uncles and Aunts on my mothers side is as follows Starit Cross Mary Fry Singleton Cross Caswell Cross Hambleton Cross Francis Stewart Hannah Evett Talitha Whitworth I send and an application for enrollment with the Cherokees about 30 years ago. I do not know whether any of my people have been slaves. Respt. Mary L. Fox No date Mary states: Francis Dover my great Grandfather was a 1/2 Blood Cherokee Indian according to what I have been taught. Application No. 9578 of Mary L. Fox received January 8, 1907 Born September 7, 1854 Habersham County, Georgia Claims through Thos. Cross (grandfather) 1/4 blood Indian born North Carolina Married to John Fox, 70 years of age Father: George Whisenant, born South Carolina, died April 28, 1877 Mother: Malinda Cross, born Georgia, died April 15, 1885 Brothers and sisters: Davison, Rebecca Nix, Thomas, Sara Ellis, James, M. C. Indian connections fathers side: Thomas Cross, Nicholas Whisenant Indian connections mothers side: Rebecca Dover, Nancy Willson Remarks: my grandfather Thomas Cross was 1/4 Indian, his wife was 1/4 Indian Supplemental Application June 20, 1910 Children: John M. Fox, August 5, 1885 Millie W. Fox, September 14, 1888 L. Gertrude Fox, July 7, 1890 Question: "Were they ever enrolled for money, annuities, land, or other benefits? If so, state when and where, and with what tribe of Indians:" Answer: Kells and Dovers were enrolled

I started this a few weeks ago and got sidetracked and busy. Thought I would try to post some more since I had a little time. Hope they help someone. I am willing to share the documents via e-mail with anyone wanting copies. Just ask and they are yours. Source: Microfilm Roll 242 16th Infantry, Company F Receipt Roll Card for Clothing Name: F. F. Dover Co. F, 16th NCT Inf. Date of Issue: Dec 17? 1864 Receipt Roll Card For Clothing Name: F. F. Dover Co., F. NCT( Inf) Date of Issue: Nov. 5, 1864 Receipt Roll Card For Clothing Name: F. F. Dover Co. F, NCT (Inf) Date of Issue: Dec. 23, 1864 I am unsure what this is exactly. It is on a lined piece of paper and is all handwritten. It says: No. 20 Paid 2 Feby 1865 F.F. Dover Sergt. Co. F. 16 NCT >From 1 July 63/December 64 Pay of? $14400. There is no decimal and the two 0's have a slash under them. The next page I will not even venture to try to transcribe until I am fresh and can give it a really good look. It looks to be some sort of handwritten record of payments to F. F. Dover. It is not Muster Roll Papers, nor Clothing records. It is on again lined paper and all handwritten. The copy was very bad and even as a negative it is very hard to get even a few words in some of the sections. I will post my attempt at transcription later. The next page is the last in F F. Dover's records for the Civil War. This to me proves that F. F. Dover who shows as Franklin F. in some records and Dover, Fidelia F. in others is one and the same person being Franklin Fidelia or Fidelia Franklin Dover. Reference Slip Name : Dover, Franklin F. Co., F. 16 North Carolina Inf. (Formerly 6 North Carolina Infantry, Vols.) Confederate Private Cards Filed with Dover, Fidelia F. Sharon Dover Romanek Primary e-mail: sromanek@salisbury.net Secondary e-mail: sromanek@hotmail.com Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen, Blancett I hear ethereal whispers, persuasive, soft and still, "Daughter, if you don't remember us, who will ?"-----------

Melba mcpeach@earthlink.net 3-31-2005 I am descended from John Thomas Cross b.1755 in Kings Mountain, NC and he had a son named Jesse William Robert Cross b.1798 in SC or GA who married Celia Dover, dau of Francis Johnson Dover who was half Cherokee and his wife was full Cherokee. John Thomas Cross also married a Cherokee. Most of the descendants stayed in NE GA but a lot of them moved West into TN, AL, AR, OK, TX. Your Jesse H. Cross may be descended from this Cross family. If you can find his Tombstone and get his birthdate and you already have his death date and place, look for his obituary in a St. Louis area newspaper following April 27, 1954. If you can find any information on his SS#, then you can get a copy of his application from SSA with his parents names on it. Good Hunting...

The State Paper, 6 Aug 2001 Asa Dowe "A.D." Lovelace, Jr., born in Kings Mountain, NC, son of Asa Dowe and Lilly Dover Lovelace, died Sunday AUG. 5, 2001 Surviving wife, Arie McBee Lovelace of Hartsville Richard Lovelace, son Tim Lovelace, son Karen Lovelace Catoe, daughter Darlene Lovelace Long, daughter Brothers: J.G. Lovelace of Hartsville, Billy Lovelace of McBee, Perry Lovelace of Darlington. Sisters: Iva Sowell of McBee, Rhea Jones, of Hartsville, Mae Hildebrand of Hartville, Margaret Ann Miller of Lancaster, Pa, Carolyn Lankford of Hartsville. Predeceased by his brother Tommy Lovelace and his sister Millie Bunch. Member of Chapel Hill Baptist Church. 10 grandchildren, 9 great grandchildren Thanks to Virginia Lovelace for posting this information on the Lovelace list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/lovelace/2001-08/0997143821

Susan Ferrill (sferr@onramp.net) 1-13-2000 Hi, I am looking for information regarding the OVERSBY family, originally from Durham, Westmoreland and Yorkshire, England, especially prior to 1700. Below I have included a portion of the OVERSBY family tree that I am related to. Thank you. Susan Descendants of John Oversby 1 John Oversby 1676 - 1722 ... +Elizabeth? 1678 - 1730 ........ 2 George Oversby 1698 - 1776 ..............+Margaret Willan 1703 - 1781 ................... 3 John Oversby 1726 - 1785 ......................... +Elizabeth Mason .............................. 4 John Oversby 1769 - 1849 .................................... +Mary Dover

Habersham Co., GA, Deed Bk L page 37, Andrew Countryman to John Countryman lot 6 11th dist., 250 ac, 12/11/1830. Wit: Rebekah [Dover] Cross & Thos Cross, JP. Bk L page 160, 8/29/1831, John GLADDEN to Jesse Green, lot 57 11th dist., 250 ac. Wit: Lawson B. Hambright, Elias? M. Countryman Bk L page 56, 12/13/1830, James F. Countryman to Levin J? Keel/Kell, lot 56 13th dist. Wit: Abner CENTER Sr. Abner Center Jr. This appears to be Abner Center/Senter of the Lincoln Co., NC area born 1755 and died 1835. He had a son named Abner born 1808. Abner Sr also appears to be the same one who served on the jury in 1795 Lincoln County, NC in the case of the State vs John Dover. Abner Center Sr. had a daughter Charlotte who is said to have died in Clarkesville in 1873. This has more coincidences if this is all true. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Dover [mailto:ddover1793@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:03 AM To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Dover] Jesse PONDER Andrew Countryman, witness to Jesse's deed near Francis J. Dover in Habersham, knew or knew of everyone. He was married to Mary Fitchet. For Sharon S., Andrew Countryman is an ancestor of Willis Finley. Some part of this family was in northeast Arkansas fairly early. Lived near Jesse Ponder and Nicholas Whisenant in York as well as Col. Frederick & Mary Dover Hambright, Hezekiah Dover, Frederick & Jane Dover, Michael & Malinda Dover, and all the others on or near Kings Creek that never left or left later. Born 1785 SC 1810 York Co., SC 1820 York Co., SC 1830 Habersham Co., GA w/Jesse & Thos Cross (jr) next door 1840 Cass Co., GA 1850 Cass Co., GA Jesse was in Cass County too that became Bartow County.

Andrew Countryman, witness to Jesse's deed near Francis J. Dover in Habersham, knew or knew of everyone. He was married to Mary Fitchet. For Sharon S., Andrew Countryman is an ancestor of Willis Finley. Some part of this family was in northeast Arkansas fairly early. Lived near Jesse Ponder and Nicholas Whisenant in York as well as Col. Frederick & Mary Dover Hambright, Hezekiah Dover, Frederick & Jane Dover, Michael & Malinda Dover, and all the others on or near Kings Creek that never left or left later. Born 1785 SC 1810 York Co., SC 1820 York Co., SC 1830 Habersham Co., GA w/Jesse & Thos Cross (jr) next door 1840 Cass Co., GA 1850 Cass Co., GA Jesse was in Cass County too that became Bartow County. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Dover [mailto:ddover1793@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:38 AM To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Dover] Jesse PONDER Habersham County, Georgia Deed Book F Page ?? John Steward to Jesse Ponder Deed of Conveyance State of Georgia, Habersham County. This indenture made and agreed on this thirteenth day of December Eighteen hundred and twenty seven Between John Steward of the State and county aforesaid of the one part, and Jesse Ponder of the same State aforesaid of the other part. Witnesseth that the said Steward that for and in consideration of the sum of two hundred dollars to him in hand paid by the said Jesse Ponder at and before Delivery of these presents, the Receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged, has bargained and sold and conveyed unto the said Jesse Ponder all that lot of land, being and being in the State and County aforesaid, in the eleventh district and known and distinguished in the plan of said district by the No. Nine together with all and singular the Rights members, or appurtenances thereunto belonging To Have and to hold the said lot of land unto the said Jesse Ponder, his heirs and assigns forever in fee simple and the said John Steward for myself and my Heirs, and all and every Other person will warrant and forever defend in Witness whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and Seal the day and year above Written. Nicholas Whisonant John Steward (Seal) Andrew Countryman Thomas Dooly JIC Recorded December 1827 John Starrett Clerk ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== GENEALOGY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION IS MYTHOLOGY

Bobby, I don't know about David Sr. being married twice. He died around 1870. He and Sarah Sparks had 12 children. His son John Abel was married twice. First to Martha Emily Shaddix and second to Mary E.Clifton. David Henry Thorton Dover was only married to Viola Turner. David Jr. was married twice. First to Charlotte Temple Robinson and second Cynthia Elizabeth Summers. As for the twins Samuel Martin Dover died in 5-29-1937 in Ellis Co., TX, Nacy Luvena Dover Henson died in Ellis Co., TX . Mary Johnt

Mary, do not think Greatgrandfather David Dover had any other wife. Thay had a son Thomas Samuel Martin Dover who was a twin to Nancy. Have no record of David Sr. since around 1870 in Winston County. Bobby G. Dover ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Johnt<mailto:mjohnt@earthlink.net> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:36 AM Subject: [Dover] David Dover Sr. Look for information on David Dorver Sr. born 1814/1815 in SC and died in AL. He was married to Sarah Sparks. They had the following children: Mary, David, Elizabeth, John Abel, Minerva, Missouri, Jonathan, Sarah S., William Harrison and Nancy. I also think he had a second wife, Mary Ann and they had a son Thomas. I would love to know who his parents were and where they came from. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mary J ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== GENEALOGY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION IS MYTHOLOGY

King's Mountain and Its Heros: History of the Battle of King's Mountain, October 7th, 1780, and the Events Which Led to It, Lyman C. Draper, LL. D., Page 232-233 When within two or three miles of King's Mountain, Sevier's advance managed to capture two or three more Tories, who were out spying, from whom corroborative information was derived of the position of Ferguson's camp, and of the locality of his packet guard. Soon after, a youth named JOHN PONDER,* some fourteen years of age, was met riding in great haste, while another account says he was captured in an old field-probably taking a circuitous course for Charlotte. Colonel Hambright knowing that this lad had a brother and other relatives in Ferguson's camp, caused his prompt arrest. On searching him, a fresh dispatch from Ferguson to Cornwallis was found, manifesting great anxiety as to his situation, and earnestly renewing his request for immediate assistance. The substance of the dispatch was made known to the men, without, however, mentioning Ferguson's strength, which he seems to have given, lest his numbers should tend to discourage them. INTERROGATING YOUNG PONDER AS TO THE KIND OF DRESS FERGUSON WORE, HE REPLIED THAT WHILE THAT OFFICER WAS THE BEST UNIFORMED MAN ON THE MOUNTAIN, THEY COULD NOT SEE HIS MILITARY SUIT, AS HE WORE A CHECKED SHIRT, OR DUSTER, OVER IT. COLONEL HAMBRIGHT AT ONCE CALLED THE ATTENTION OF HIS MEN TO THIS PECULIARITY OF FERGUSON'S DRESS: " WELL, POYS," SAID HE, IN HIS BROKEN PENNSYLVANIA GERMAN ACCENT, "WHEN YOU SEE DOT MAN MIT A PIG SHIRT ON OVER HIS CLOTHES, YOU MAY KNOW WHO HIM IS, AND MARK HIM MIT YOUR RIFLES." _____________ * General Joseph Graham, in his King's Mountain narrative, gives the name as Fonderin, which Dr. Hunter in his Sketches repeats. But Colonel J. R. Logan, who has lived all his life of some seventy years in the King's Mountain region, and whose grandfather, William Logan, was in the battle, states that all the aged persons of that section of country unite in declaring that the youth's name was John Ponder. A MR. DOVER, says Colonel Logan, was likewise met on the march, and imparted some information to the Whig leaders of Ferguson's movements and whereabouts; and the families of the Ponders and Dovers still reside in York County, South Carolina, and Cleveland County, North Carolina, while Ponder's branch of King's creek is a well-known stream in that quarter.

York County, South Carolina Book L, Page 118 September 4, 1826 Jesse Ponder and William Ponder of York Dist. deeds to Hugh Borders for $400.00, 169 acres on Jumping Branch of King's Creek [Jesse's wife is listed as Jenny]. Be it known to all whom it may concern that on the 26th day of Oct 1827, that Jenny Ponder, wife of Jesse Ponder the within assignees to said deed this day appeared before me Shared James justice for said district and being privately and separately examined by me did declare that she did freely and voluntarily of her own free will and accord without compulsion, ____ or fear of any person or persons whomsoever renounce, release and forever relinquish unto the within named Hugh Borders all he right and estate of the within described premises and also all her rights and claim of dower unto or about the same, takes and acknowledges before me the day and date above written Jenny Ponder (Her mark) Source: Ponder FTM File Note: Hugh Borders appears in the 1830 York County census on page 375 and is 12 households from Zephaniah Dover Sr. & Jr. He was the next door neighbor of John Ellis Esq. in the 1830 census. Hugh Borders was a member of Antioch Baptist Church and appears in those published records. Jesse Ponder went to Georgia and is found in the 1830 Habersham County, Georgia census.

This is one piece of the Jesse Ponder puzzle. It might be a missing piece from the Ponder research by those who did share. I'll post a follow-up(s) on some things before and after this time/place. One after that relates to a major coincidence with my family that connects back to Jesse and his brother Daniel in Buncombe County (also in the Newfound Creek Baptist Church records). The following deed becomes important because of the witness for Jesse Ponder. Jesse was apparently born 1760-1765. His brother Daniel in Buncombe County, North Carolina was born 1755-1760 and died in Buncombe County in 1817. John Nicholas Whisenant was born abt 1775 and died after 1860 in Habersham Co., GA. All were on or near Kings Creek in York, SC. A "Mr. Dover" is part of the Ponder story too before the Battle of Kings Mountain. Tom Dover took a picture for us that should be within a very short distance where all these things were taking place before the Revolution. This file also contains some location treasures shared by Sharon Sukiennik, Bobbie Jean Frank and Jean McSwain. http://www.dovertree.com/images/Burnt_Mill_Road_Bridge.pdf -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Dover [mailto:ddover1793@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 4:26 PM To: PONDER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PONDER] Jesse Ponder Habersham County, Georgia Deed Book F Page ?? John Steward to Jesse Ponder Deed of Conveyance State of Georgia, Habersham County. This indenture made and agreed on this thirteenth day of December Eighteen hundred and twenty seven Between John Steward of the State and county aforesaid of the one part, and Jesse Ponder of the same State aforesaid of the other part. Witnesseth that the said Steward that for and in consideration of the sum of two hundred dollars to him in hand paid by the said Jesse Ponder at and before Delivery of these presents, the Receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged, has bargained and sold and conveyed unto the said Jesse Ponder all that lot of land, being and being in the State and County aforesaid, in the eleventh district and known and distinguished in the plan of said district by the No. Nine together with all and singular the Rights members, or appurtenances thereunto belonging To Have and to hold the said lot of land unto the said Jesse Ponder, his heirs and assigns forever in fee simple and the said John Steward for myself and my Heirs, and all and every Other person will warrant and forever defend in Witness whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and Seal the day and year above Written. Nicholas Whisonant John Steward (Seal) Andrew Countryman Thomas Dooly JIC Recorded December 1827 John Starrett Clerk Nicholas Whisonant/Whisenant was John Nicholas Jr who was in York Co., SC until 1820 and the son of John Nicholas Whisenant of Kings Creek that purchased his property on Kings Creek from John Dover in 1794. York County, Deed Book G, Page 255, April 5, 1794 No. 374 John Dover to Nicholas Whisenhunt, 141 acres east side of Broad River on a high shoal branch of Kings Creek. Witnesses: Thomas Russell, William Jenkins. Nicholas Whisenant lived on Lot 48 and 49 of the 13th District of Habersham County, Georgia that he purchased (lot 49) November 20, 1827. Jesse Ponder and Nicholas Whisenant owned property very close to each other (11 lots separating them).

Florida Confederate Civil War Pension Applications 2 Results Application NumberSurnameGiven NameService UnitWifeApplication CountyApplication YearNumber of Pages D21370 DOVER, Felix H. South Carolina Amanda (Dixon) Bradford Co 1919 15 pgs D22261 DOVER, Elisha Lafayette Georgia Melinda (Randolph) Nassau Co 1905 25 pgs

Dennis, I know you think I'm bull-headed and refuse to let things go, but I've told you before how I'm "talked" through things, however cryptically. We have the reference to Fall River. John Dover there in the 1760's. Thomas Dover in Glynn Co., GA was b. ca. 1760-1770. I will assume POB was England. His nephew William Dover Jenkins was b. ca. 1794, England, per the 1850 census. His will mentions his body to be shipped to Freetown, MA to be buried in a new family cemetery he is starting. He's already freed some slaves (1858) and they are already living in Freetown. I found them there in the 1860 census. I've been doing some checking on Freetown. Freetown and Fall River are only 12 miles apart and according to the president of the local historical society, Fall River was originally part of the Freetown community. Have not found any direct references to Dovers but have accumulated a group of links to some background information on the area if you're interested.

Thank you, you and your family and all the Dover cousins have a wonderful Thanksgiving as well. If I could have my wish, I would want all my grandparents back, not just to ask them questions, but because I still miss them a lot. I would also want my Mother back, who passed away three years ago at the age of 70, I definitely miss her, especially during the holidays. Then I would like to have all my great-greats that I never met, but would love to know. I can't imagine that much snow on Thanksgiving. It is sunny and relatively mild today in North Georgia, although suppose to be about 28 in the morning!!!!! God Bless Everyone, Trish White >From: <mmanson@snet.net> >Reply-To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com >To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Dover] Happy Thanksgiving >Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:27:55 -0500 > >Hi Everyone > >I wanted to wish you all a Very Happy Thanksgiving. >I hope you all have a wonderful day with family and friends. > >If there is a special Tradition, or moment you would like to share Please >do. Do you have a great family recipe, that has been passed down? Feel free >to share it too. ( who knows, a long distance cousin may use it for >Christmas :) > >Tell us who you would invite to your table to day if you could, GG grandma, >grandpa, and so on. > >Ice cream cake has become a tradition for us, in the next 7 days we have 5 >birthdays and two anniversary, so its like Christmas, after dinner we all >sing happy birthday/anniversary and everyone blows out the candles. > >I would invite my grandfather Jerry, not for research reason, but to have >just one more moment with him, he passed last weekend, He was the last of >the Greats for my children, > >Have a great day, cherish the moments, >Patricia > >P.S. It's been snowing here since abt 3 a.m, we have over 5 inches, > > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >Genconnect board >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.dover >

Hi Everyone I wanted to wish you all a Very Happy Thanksgiving. I hope you all have a wonderful day with family and friends. If there is a special Tradition, or moment you would like to share Please do. Do you have a great family recipe, that has been passed down? Feel free to share it too. ( who knows, a long distance cousin may use it for Christmas :) Tell us who you would invite to your table to day if you could, GG grandma, grandpa, and so on. Ice cream cake has become a tradition for us, in the next 7 days we have 5 birthdays and two anniversary, so its like Christmas, after dinner we all sing happy birthday/anniversary and everyone blows out the candles. I would invite my grandfather Jerry, not for research reason, but to have just one more moment with him, he passed last weekend, He was the last of the Greats for my children, Have a great day, cherish the moments, Patricia P.S. It's been snowing here since abt 3 a.m, we have over 5 inches,