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    1. Re: [DOVER-L] Jesse Green autobiography
    2. S.Romanek
    3. I would appreciate some feed back on how to better research past messages too. I have trouble with this too. Could someone please post some simple instructions to the list. Thanks, Sharon Dover Romanek -----Original Message----- From: Tom & Laura <tom-lauramsn@email.msn.com> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, January 24, 1999 1:30 PM Subject: Fw: [DOVER-L] Jesse Green autobiography I can't find the Jesse Green autobiography either. Any suggestions?? Thanks, Laura >Went to archives and couldn't find the autobiography. I typed in >Jesse Green autobiography and got Sharon's Post, which mentions the >autobiography. Where do I go now? Thanks Ruth > > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >Dover Family Genealogy Forum >http://www.genforum.com/dover/ >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Dove r > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Some of the information you see may not be verified. Remember to verify sources yourself.

    01/26/1999 06:53:57
    1. Fw: [DOVER-L] Misc. LDS Family History Center Finds #1
    2. S.Romanek
    3. Hi Everyone, Mail is back up. I lost four messages though. Will never know what they were. POOH!!! On the message from Dennis below on the Chattanooga connections, I have thought it was interesting some of the locations the Dovers in Chattanooga lived at. I am a native of Chattanooga, and many of the street names in the letter that I remember seeing, are very close to Kelly Street where I lived in the 50's. Granny and Grandpa are also suppose to have lived on Watkins Street, where their daughter Nellie, who I can find nothing on is said to have died from Typhoid Fever ca. 1918-1921. My mother says she thinks she remembers hearing that they were not close relations, but she is the only one alive who can tell me anything anymore, and is a Dover by marriage, so would only know what she was told. Granny hated the Dovers, so would not talk about anything she might have known. Too bad. I am sure a lot of good information went with her to her grave. Glad to be back on. This was driving me nutts. I do have two other items to post to the list that I found at the LDS Family History Center. They are not much, just left over, that I didn't get to post, before e-mail went down. Sharon Dover Romanek -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Dover <ddover@earthlink.net> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 6:06 PM Subject: RE: [DOVER-L] Misc. LDS Family History Center Finds #1 >From Sharon's post, Alice would be the sister of John E. Dover the author of the 1934 letter which states that Alice below was the widow of J. Gid Lovelady, a farmer of Daisy, Tennessee residing at 411 Oak Street, Chattanooga, Tennessee. >From memory, there was a Cherokee claim on the Whitice family. Alice's parents, William M. Dover and Mary T. Whittice were married May 7, 1863 in Whitfield County, Georgia which was formed from Murray and Walker counties in 1851. There may still be these Dover connections in Chattanooga. I think there's an attorney in town from this family who may have run for political office in recent years. Two things which I think are important. The 1934 letter says that Alice's grandparents were John and Elizabeth Dover ... the implication that John was born about 1756. This has never been proved to my knowledge. The second point is that it might be easy to "assume" that everyone in this branch of the Dover family has the 1934 letter. I "doubt" that very much. I know the family members of John Randolph Dover, also mentioned in the 1934 letter, are about as clueless about their family as we are about "our" branches of the family. The 1934 letter contains information that would sure be nice to be able to verify and the ONLY way "we" can do that is to find these family members and share our kinship. From memory, William Dover, father of John E., Alice and others from the 1934 letter is buried in or near York. I think there's a chance John E. Dover might still be alive. I seem to remember that some recent or current state politician in Tennessee is married to a Dover. Anyone ever heard that? Dennis #2 Alice Dover b. June 7, 1870 Place: Cherokee Tribe of Chattanooga, Tennessee Father: William Dover Mother: Mary T. Whitice ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Some of the information you see may not be verified. Remember to verify sources yourself.

    01/26/1999 10:51:55
    1. [DOVER-L] Kentucy Viital Records
    2. Go to: http://ukcc.uky.edu/~vitalrec/ :)pam

    01/25/1999 11:55:16
    1. [DOVER-L] Misc. Info.
    2. GAYLE CALABRESE
    3. I am having such a hard time with my mail. I have sent several posts, but I'm not certain who has gotten what...... I don't thing the following reached the list. ----Sorry if it's a repeat. .........gaelcee Fannin Co. marriages 24 October, 1880, Linch T. Dover to Martha C. Morris. Joel Walker Jp- B-269 Polk Co. Tn. Marriages William Dover to Fannie Morgan, 18 March, 1897 To Dennis, regarding the Chattanooga Dovers...... There was an attorney named Robert Dover who ran for some sort of political office. Also, there is a Charlie, or Tom who also ran for something political in that area. I know he was late to my grandmother's funeral, but came to the cemetery. He was said to look like my grandfather, whom I never knew. His father and my grandfather were 1st cousins. I am trying to reach a greatgranddaughter of Samuel and Susan, who is about 87 years old. She is a granddaughter of their Tommy C. Dover through James Elbert Dover. She would have a lot of info to include who this politician was. Regarding the Cherokee thing.........besides the claim on Alantha, there is an Augusta Dover whose application # 24411 was approved. I haven't gotten a copy of the application to check out the info included there........gaelcee

    01/25/1999 11:40:40
    1. [DOVER-L] Fw: Polk Co. Tn. Marriages
    2. GAYLE CALABRESE
    3. -----Original Message----- From: DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com> To: GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net <GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net> Cc: owner-DOVER@bl-30.rootsweb.com <owner-DOVER@bl-30.rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 6:12 PM Subject: Re: Polk Co. Tn. Marriages >From DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE447D.58D97680 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > William DOVER to Fannie MORGAN, 18 March, 1897 > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE447D.58D97680 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> > > <HTML> > > <HEAD> > > > <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> > > </HEAD> > > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > > <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>William DOVER to Fannie = > > MORGAN, 18=20 > > March, 1897</FONT></BODY></HTML> > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE447D.58D97680-- > >Hi -- > >The message you submitted to this list (included above) wasn't >sent to the list subscribers. RootsWeb accepts only plain text >mail. That means that HTML mail, attachments, ``enriched text'', >and a few other formats can't be sent to RootsWeb mailing lists. >You can post your message if you send it in plain text; turn off >the ``Post in HTML'' or ``Enriched Text'' features of your mail >reader, or don't use any attachments. See >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm for >instructions on turning off HTML in most of the popular mail >programs, or ask your ISP's technical support line for help. > >We've had to institute this policy because of the problems that >accompany these fancy mail formats. Some people don't have mail >programs that are capable of processing the special file formats. >Even among those who do, different mail programs handle these >special formats in very different and confusing ways. HTML messages >pose special problems to our digested mailing lists. Most of all, >HTML-ified mail and attachments place a considerable burden on >RootsWeb's overworked machines. All in all, mail in this format >produces a lot of problems for RootsWeb's servers and subscribers, >so we find it's best just to use plain text. > >-- The RootsWeb staff >

    01/25/1999 11:01:09
    1. [DOVER-L] Fw: Fannin Co. Ga. Marriages
    2. GAYLE CALABRESE
    3. -----Original Message----- From: DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com> To: GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net <GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net> Cc: owner-DOVER@bl-30.rootsweb.com <owner-DOVER@bl-30.rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Fannin Co. Ga. Marriages >From DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE447D.84D1DF20 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > 24 October 1880, Linch T. Dover to Martha C. Morris. Joel Walker JP- = > > B-269 > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE447D.84D1DF20 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> > > <HTML> > > <HEAD> > > > <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> > > </HEAD> > > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>24 October 1880, Linch T. = > > Dover&nbsp; to Martha=20 > > C. Morris.&nbsp; Joel Walker JP- B-269</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE447D.84D1DF20-- > >Hi -- > >The message you submitted to this list (included above) wasn't >sent to the list subscribers. RootsWeb accepts only plain text >mail. That means that HTML mail, attachments, ``enriched text'', >and a few other formats can't be sent to RootsWeb mailing lists. >You can post your message if you send it in plain text; turn off >the ``Post in HTML'' or ``Enriched Text'' features of your mail >reader, or don't use any attachments. See >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm for >instructions on turning off HTML in most of the popular mail >programs, or ask your ISP's technical support line for help. > >We've had to institute this policy because of the problems that >accompany these fancy mail formats. Some people don't have mail >programs that are capable of processing the special file formats. >Even among those who do, different mail programs handle these >special formats in very different and confusing ways. HTML messages >pose special problems to our digested mailing lists. Most of all, >HTML-ified mail and attachments place a considerable burden on >RootsWeb's overworked machines. All in all, mail in this format >produces a lot of problems for RootsWeb's servers and subscribers, >so we find it's best just to use plain text. > >-- The RootsWeb staff >

    01/25/1999 11:00:49
    1. [DOVER-L] Fw: Chattanooga Dovers Etc.
    2. GAYLE CALABRESE
    3. -----Original Message----- From: DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com> To: GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net <GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net> Cc: owner-DOVER@bl-30.rootsweb.com <owner-DOVER@bl-30.rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, January 24, 1999 4:03 AM Subject: Re: Chattanooga Dovers Etc. >From DOVER-L-request@rootsweb.com > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE472B.804ABCA0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > Dennis, > > There was an attorney named Robert Dover, not to be confused with = > > my Daddy whose AKA was "Bob," who ran for some sort of political office. = > > Also, there was a Charlie or Tom Dover who was late for my grandmother's = > > funeral, but came to the cemetery, who was also in politics in that area = > > but moved to Atlanta. The only thing I remember about him was that he = > > was said to look like my grandfather, and that his dad and my = > > grandfather were 1st cousins. Chris Dover would probably know, but he's = > > hard to get in touch with regarding this sort of stuff. =20 > > Besides the Cherokee claim of Alantha, there is an Augusta Dover, = > > application #24411, which was approved. I haven't gotten a copy of the = > > original application, but we could get info there. .........gaelcee > > > ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE472B.804ABCA0 > > Content-Type: text/html; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> > > <HTML> > > <HEAD> > > > <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = > > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > > <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> > > </HEAD> > > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Dennis,</FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = > > There was=20 > > an attorney named Robert Dover, not to be confused with my Daddy whose = > > AKA was=20 > > "Bob," who ran for some sort of political office. Also, there = > > was a=20 > > Charlie or Tom Dover who was late for my grandmother's funeral, but came = > > to the=20 > > cemetery, who was also in politics in that area but moved to = > > Atlanta.&nbsp; The=20 > > only thing I remember about him was that he was said to look like my=20 > > grandfather, and that his dad and my grandfather were 1st cousins. Chris = > > Dover=20 > > would probably know, but he's hard to get in touch with regarding this = > > sort of=20 > > stuff.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> > > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Besides the = > > Cherokee claim of=20 > > Alantha, there is an Augusta Dover, application #24411, which was=20 > > approved.&nbsp; I haven't gotten a copy of the original application, but = > > we=20 > > could get info there.&nbsp; .........gaelcee</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> > > > ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE472B.804ABCA0-- > >Hi -- > >The message you submitted to this list (included above) wasn't >sent to the list subscribers. RootsWeb accepts only plain text >mail. That means that HTML mail, attachments, ``enriched text'', >and a few other formats can't be sent to RootsWeb mailing lists. >You can post your message if you send it in plain text; turn off >the ``Post in HTML'' or ``Enriched Text'' features of your mail >reader, or don't use any attachments. See >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm for >instructions on turning off HTML in most of the popular mail >programs, or ask your ISP's technical support line for help. > >We've had to institute this policy because of the problems that >accompany these fancy mail formats. Some people don't have mail >programs that are capable of processing the special file formats. >Even among those who do, different mail programs handle these >special formats in very different and confusing ways. HTML messages >pose special problems to our digested mailing lists. Most of all, >HTML-ified mail and attachments place a considerable burden on >RootsWeb's overworked machines. All in all, mail in this format >produces a lot of problems for RootsWeb's servers and subscribers, >so we find it's best just to use plain text. > >-- The RootsWeb staff >

    01/25/1999 11:00:28
    1. Re: [DOVER-L] Dover - War of 1812
    2. GAYLE CALABRESE
    3. Terry, I'm sorry for duplicating you efforts on this,as well as to the list, but I just opened this after sending the same info out.......g. -----Original Message----- From: Terry Jackson <jacksont@nacell.net> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 3:51 AM Subject: [DOVER-L] Dover - War of 1812 >http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/familytree/records/ > >GEORGE DOVER 1 REG'T (CONNELL'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA. >HENRY DOVER 5 REG'T (STERETT'S) MARYLAND MILITIA. >ISAAC DOVER 10 REG'T (BOSWELL'S) KENTUCKY MILITIA. >ISAAC DOVER 13 REG'T (DUDLEY'S) KENTUCKY MILITIA. >JOHN DOVER CAPT. BOULTINGHOUSE'S CO., MTD. VOLS. > ILLINOIS >MILITIA. >JOHN DOVER COLONEL FERGUSON'S, SUBSEQUENTLY MAJOR > STEPHENSON'S, >COMMAND, ILLINOIS MIL. > > > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >As always, RootsWeb remains supported by user contributions. >Folks who would like to become a RootsWeb Member or Sponsor >(the cost is very modest) are invited to visit: ><http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html> >$1.00 a month makes you a member > >

    01/25/1999 10:26:33
    1. [DOVER-L] Dovers in War of 1812
    2. GAYLE CALABRESE
    3. >From the Sierra Home page free database - "War of 1812" George Dover 1st Reg't [Connell's] Virginia Militia Henry Dover 5th Reg't [Sterett's] Maryland Militia Isaac Dover 10th Reg't [Boswell's] Kentucky Militia Isaac Dover 13th Reg't [Dudley's] Kentucky Militia John Dover Capt Boultinghouse's Co. MTD. Vols. Illinois Militia John Dover Colonel Ferguson's , subsequently Major Stephenson's Command, Illinois Mil.

    01/25/1999 10:09:52
    1. Unidentified subject!
    2. Randy D Dover
    3. [451] Morgan District Ss: State of North Carolina to the Sheriff of Buncombe County Greeting: You are hereby commanded to summons Robert LOVE & Nathan DEVER? (DOVER?) if to be found in your County to be and appear personally before the Judges of our Superior Court of Law at the next Court to be held for the District of Morgan at the Court-house in Morganton on the fourth Day of September next; then and & (sic) there to give Evidence in behalf of Waightstill AVERY plaintiff in his suite against Michael WOLF & Robert MAN Defendants & this he shall in no wise omit under the penalty by law injoined Herein fail not and have you then & there this writ. Witness William W. ERWIN Clerk of our said Court the 10th day of March A. D. 1806 and in the XXXth. Year of Independence of they United States. D. Vance for Wm. W. Erwin CSC. (reverse) 2. W. AVERY vs. Michael WOLF and Robert MAN. Subpoena. Morgan Supr. Ct. Sept. 1806 Summoned by me J. Hughey D. Sh. Source - Morgan District, North Carolina, Superior Court of Law, Book II, Land Records Patent Book 14 3723 pg 362 Robert Cate 5 August 1760 560 Acres in Orange County in the Parish of St. Mathew on the N side of Haw River opposite to the Mouth of Terrels Creek, joining James Collins, both sides of Collins Creek, and the sd river - Including the Island opposite to the mouth of Terrels Creek OR: /s/ Robert Cate Wits: Jas Watson, Thomas Cate Jr examined by: Rich Vigers and W Churton surveyed 22 Sept 1756 SCC: James Collins, John Dover W Churton Surveyor Patent Book 14 3814 pg 385 James Collins 12 November 1756 480 acres in Orange County in the parish of St. Matthew on Haw River and on both sides of Collins Creek OR: /s/ (mark) Wits: W Churton, Willm Reed entered 12 March 1754 surveyed 25 Sept. 1755 SCC: Wm Stutely Sherly, John Dover Jr., W Churton Surveyor Source for the above 2 listings - Granville District of NC 1748-1763 Abstracts of Land Patents p 264 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    01/25/1999 04:26:23
    1. [DOVER-L] Mary Ann ? Dover/Gamblin
    2. Tom & Laura
    3. In reference to the Dover children living with the Gamblin's in Ripley County, MO 1850 (recently posted)...... Gamblin researchers believe all 5 children belong to Mary Ann, wife of William Gamblin (house # 229). William married Mary Ann Dover, a widow, sometime between 1843 and 1850, place unknown. I am hoping someone can help me figure out who Mary Ann's first husband was by reviewing the following: Mary Ann was born abt 1797 in MD. She married ? Dover and had William K 1832 TN, James M 1836 TN, Jesse 1837 AR, Henry P 1840 AR, and Lillaoma 1843 AR. Suspect there were older children also. She married William Gamblin 1843-1850. William was born 1794 NC, the son of Joshua Gamblin. William was married 2 times before. 1st to Marian Greathouse in 1815, 2nd to Betsy Bond in 1823. William Gamblin was living in Hopkins County, KY 1820 and Calloway County, KY 1830. By 1840, he was in southern IL. By 1847, he was in Ripley County, MO. Any thoughts will be appreciated, as this has become more of a guessing game than anything! Thank You! Laura

    01/25/1999 12:37:27
    1. [DOVER-L] [Fwd: Madison Dover]
    2. Terry Jackson
    3. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0CA02B3ECFE0C091473E9D25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Had this response to my 1870 Scott Co. census. Apparently the Dillengers also have a Collins connection --------------0CA02B3ECFE0C091473E9D25 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <sully@vnet.net> Received: from smtp1.vnet.net (smtp1.vnet.net [166.82.1.31]) by atl1.america.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA27092 for <jacksont@nacell.net>; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (ppp-clt-184.vnet.net [166.82.240.184]) by smtp1.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA21615 for <jacksont@nacell.net>; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:20:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36AC1D3D.FAB@vnet.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:29:01 -0800 From: "Kath. Sullivan" <sully@vnet.net> Reply-To: sully@vnet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jacksont@nacell.net Subject: Madison Dover References: <36ABA080.5BDC7207@nacell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terry Jackson wrote: > > 7-19-1870 Scott Co. MO, Sandywood's Township, Commerce & Blodgett Post > Office > Madison Dover, 41, W, M, Farm Laborer, b. SC, can't read/write, male US > citizen over age 21 > Susan, 41, W, F, keeping house, b. NC, can't read/write > Harmon, 17, W, M, farm labor, b. GA, can't read/write > Emanuel, 15, W, M, farm labor, b. GA, can't read/write > Wylie, 11, W, M, at home, b. GA > Madison, 1, W, M, b. GA > > Also in the household are: > Jasper Dillenger, 17, W, M, farm labor, b. GA, can't read/write > Susan Dillender, 14, W, F, at home, b. GA, can't read/write > > Next door is: > James Collins, 31, W, M, Farm labor, b. SC > Clarinda, 19, W, F, keeping house, b. GA > Reise, 14, W, M, farm labor, GA > > Other neighbors on this page are: > James D. Morgan > Benson Biggs > Alford Chapman > Christina Huge > Thomas Brown > Nancy Sides > James Roach > James Andrews ============= Hi Terry, Thanks for the 1870 census. The Collins fellow next door kind of catches my attention - again, there could be a connection to the Marcus Dellinger I mentioned earlier. So I'm going to tell you the little I know. At least you'll have it for your file for the day all these mysteries are solved [Ha]. Valentine Dellinger born c1813 in Lincoln Co., NC, son of Andrew and Hannah (Golden) Dellinger. Married 25 August 1836 Lincoln Co., NC to Jane Collins. Not sure, but think her father was William Collins Sr. Valentine and Jane (Collins) Dellinger moved to Gilmer Co., Ga. c1849/1850. 23 September 1850 Gilmer Co. p378a-378b, Subdivision #33 [everyone born NC]: Valentine Dillinger age 36. Farmer. Jane Dillinger age 30 Marcus Dillinger age 13 John Dillinger age 10 Sarah Dillinger age 2 Mary H. Dillinger age 2 Neighbors: #422: Washington Jackson age 35 born SC Sanford Owens age 26 born SC #424: William H. Collins age 38 born NC Nancy Collins born SC; all children born NC util age 5 child born GA. I had in mind this guy was Jane (Collins) Dillinger's brother. Don't know what happened to Valentine and family - not found on 1860 Gilmer Co. Census. Again, this stuff may be totally irrelevant but thought I should pass it on. I'm going to keep your note about Madison Dover in the file in hopes that something breaks loose. Please stay in touch anytime, Kath. --------------0CA02B3ECFE0C091473E9D25--

    01/24/1999 09:31:17
    1. [DOVER-L] Murray Co., GA DOVER & SETLIFF
    2. Dennis Dover
    3. Two things going here. Jimmie Sue has "Nora Ophelia Dover b. 20/Feb/1852 in Georgia, and died 24/Sept/1927 in Jefferson Co. Alabama. She married John T. Setliff in Georgia ca. 1872, probably either in Murray or Whitfield Co." I haven't talked to Jimmie Sue recently but thought I would throw this out. There's a Thomas P. Sutliff in 1850 Murray County who happens to be on the same census page with several families that were neighbors to Morgan Dover and Alexander Martin in 1840 Murray County. I don't know or rememeber if there is a connection with this John T. Setliff and Thomas P. Sutliff. Alexander Martin is from Kings Creek and part of the Martin connection with Bersheba Dover and the altercation with Hezekiah and Michael. Morgan Dover born 1770-1780 still bugs me because I think the 1934 letter which states the following is really telling us that Morgan Dover in 1840 Murray County is James Dover the 3rd son of John Dover #1: "#3 James located down on Broad River, hence the Morgan Dover family of Broad River." It's bad census film on the wrong pages, but a case can be made that a Morgan Dover was in 1820 Pendleton County, South Carolina right in the midst of the Mullinax families just posted regarding the will which included Francis J. Dover AND very near a few other families, one which is very probably (James FIELDING) the father of Martha Ann "Patsy" FIELDING wife of Bailey Appleton Dover. This older Morgan Dover is NOT the one(s) who appear in York after 1800 also connected with the Martin families. One of these younger Morgan's also goes by Shade or Shadrick/Shadrack.

    01/24/1999 05:01:40
    1. [DOVER-L] Etowah Co. AL
    2. Terry Jackson
    3. I live so far away (35 miles) from any library, when I go, I use a "search and seize" method. Consequently, I have all these little notes that don't immediately connect with any of my group. I thought I'd post them and get them in the archives and off my desk. Maybe there'll be something someone else can use. Etowah Co. AL marriages Amanda Dover to James Fipps, Bk. 2, pg. 33, 1-21-1869 James H. Dover to Mrs. M.E. Powell, Bk. C, pg. 200A, 9-18-1877 William F. Dover to S.A. Blanchet, Bk. 5, pg. 572A, 10-9-1884

    01/24/1999 02:45:31
    1. [DOVER-L] Spartanburg County, South Carolina
    2. Dennis Dover
    3. 1800 Spartanburg District Census Index COLLINS, John 23101 21010-08 168 COLLINS, Joseph 00110-00010-04 168 FONDREN, Richard 21010-21010-00 169 FONDREN, William 20010 32011-00 170 TURNER, Hannah 42000 10010-00 170 TURNER, John 10301 11101-03 170 TURNER, Mathias 30010 20100-00 170 PARIS, David 00100-10100-00 175 PARRIS, John 01200-10100-00 175 POSEY, Thomas 10110-20100-01 184 SHERLEY, Aron 00010-00121-00 184 SHERLEY, Thomas 41101-10110-00 184 POSEY, John 00121-00001-01 185 POSEY, John 10010-10100-00 185 CASTLEBERRY, Paul 22011-20110-02 187 CASTLEBERRY, William 22110-21110-00 187 PAGE, Anderson 30010-00010-00 187 PAGE, John 10100-10010-00 187 CROSS, Thomas 10010-30010-00 188 PAGE, Robert 11201-22101-00 188 RICE, James 20010-11100-00 188 HARDIN, Henry 12020-31001-04 193 MOSS, Ebinezar 10201-01001-0,11 194 MOSS, Jarred 00100-01000-00 194 MOSS, Obediah 00100-20100-02 194 MOSS, William 10100-30100-00 194 GUNTER, William 00010-20100-00 195 MULLENAX, John 00010 00100-00 195 LAMB, Longsheat 31101-12010-00 197 MULLINAX, Manuel 00001 00001-00 198 MULLINAX, John 30010 10100-00 199 MULLINAX, Johnson 00100 10100-00 199 MULLINAX, William 10110 10100-00 199 GILLILAND, James 11200-10100-02 209 Probate Records Book W, Page ? June 21, 1838 Power of Attorney to Absalom Mullinax from Mary Dover, et al Habersham County, Georgia. Francis J. Dover and others No. 304 Know all men by these presents that we, Francis J. Dover and Mary Dover, his wife, formerly Mary Mullinax, and Sarah Johnson formerly Sarah Mullinax, and were relict of January Johnson, deceased. All heirs and legatees of the estate by the will of the late John Mullinax deceased all of the County and State aforesaid, for devises good causes, etc...do make ordain and appoint Absalom Mullinax, of Pickens District in the State of South Carolina our true and lawful attorney for us in our separate names....receive from the executrix, etc. Signed Francis J. Dover, Mary Dover and Sarah Johnson. Office of the Probate Judge, File No. 1429, Will of John Mullinax. Heirs or Legatees: Matthew Mullinax, Francis Dover, Anna Hendrix, Sarah Johnson, Martin Grimes, David Grimes, Mahala Grimes, Malinda Cowan, Fields Martin, Mrs. Martin and Rebecca Mullinax. Note: Information from researcher(s) not verified. John Mullinax is thought to have no children and Mary Mullinax is thought to be the sister of John Mullinax. Some of the MULLINAX families are found in 1860 Tippah County, Mississippi.

    01/24/1999 01:47:15
    1. RE: [DOVER-L] Jesse Green autobiography
    2. Dennis Dover
    3. Here's what I have. Think there's another piece to the story written by a daughter. Fascinating story. A copy of the original is filed with the Texas State Archives. I thought I had posted this to the list but can't find it either. Jesse Green Autobiography This autobiographical sketch was handwritten in a store ledger book in Polk County, Arkansas in 1912 by Jesse Mercer Green, second son of William W. Green and Hannah Dover. He was born April 17, 1836 at Sharp Mountain Creek (now Indian Ball Ground), Cherokee County, Georgia. This transcription was made from an old typewritten copy of the original handwritten autobiography. Source: Diane Bingham Biographical Sketch of Jesse M. Green I write this sketch of my life and that of my ancestors for the information and satisfaction of my children and their offspring's, and to keep a faint line at least of our ancestors. I will speak first of our ancestors as I know them and have received the information from my father while he was yet living. My father, William Washington Green, was a son of Amos Green, who raised eleven children, six boys and five girls, to wit: Richard, who died in the Indian Territory and was buried at old Fort Towson. His family, girls only, are lost to us. The next Jesse was a doctor and discovered the great dropsy remedy, which has been put out for many years by the H. H. Green and Sons. My father Andrew Jackson. Jonathan who died in Hopkins County, Texas. Oliver who never married. The girls were first Sallie who married Oliver Cowart. Polly who married Daniel Morrison in Habersham County, Georgia. Milley married -- Maxwell. The next married a Williams. These last two never left North Carolina where the family was raised. The fifth girl was never married. Grandfather died aged about eighty. His wife's maiden name was Elisabeth Searcy. He was raised in North Carolina. His father was I believe Richard Green. Anyway he was son of General Nathaniel Green of Revolution fame. Grandfather and many of the Green family were wealthy Negro holders before the Civil War. My mother was the daughter of Anderson Dover who raised eleven children, five boys and six girls, to wit: Harriet, she married Alfred Hicks. Hannah, my mother. Mary, she married William Hendrix. Allen, he married Polly Cloud. Viny, she married William Martin. Fanny, she married Daniel Moody. Larkin Caloway, he married Sarah Miller, Sally Smart and Mrs. Burnett. Henry Santford, he married Amy Haines. William Alfred, he married Fidelia Wilson, sister of Oswell Wilson (brother of the just named). Andrew, he married Esther Smart. Grandpa was the son of Frank [Francis J.] Dover who had six boys to wit: Johnson, Nelson, Benson, Anderson, Simpson and Thompson. He died at the age of 98. Grandpa's mother was a Posey, and his wife's maiden name was Jane Cross. They were raised in South Carolina. Raised their family in Cherokee and Habersham County, Georgia. He died in Polk, Arkansas at the age of 96 years. Father and mother were married in Habersham County Georgia and had born 17 children, 14 of whom they raised, 7 boys and 7 girls. Names as follows: Henry Haines, Jesse Mercer, Alfred Webb, Susan Elizabeth, Luiza Jane, Mary Ann, Laura Ann, Celia Ann Lucinda, Sarah Ann, William G., Hannah Elmira, John Farrer, Grisham, Benjamin McCulloch. H. H. married Elminia Jackson. He and boys has put out as specialists the famous dropsy medicines which was discovered by uncle Jesse Green as above stated. He died at Atlanta, Georgia at the age of 64 years, a very rich man. His family resides in Atlanta now. He was 1st Lieutenant in Alabama Regiment of Volunteers in the Confederate War, and was wounded at Chickamauga. Afterward was captured and held a prisoner on Johnson Island in Lake Erie for 18 months to the end of the war. A. W. belonged to the Marines in the war. He was a railroad man and lived at Mobile, Alabama, was killed by the cars on the Mobile and Ohio Railroad in 1867, and his family is lost to the family. S. E. married Jerry Head, raised a large family and was then divorced from him and died in Polk County, was buried at old Antioch Cemetery when Father, Mother, Grandfather Dover and several other of the relatives are buried. L. J. married C. C. Dupree, raised a large family in Polk County, Arkansas where she now lives on her farm, Dupree having died several years ago. M. A. married first Mr. Durham in Alabama. He was killed in the War, had one child William Durham who lives in Commanche, Texas. She then married L. T. (Len) Coker. She lives in Commanche, Texas with her children. she being a widow. L. A. married Calvin Nichols, then George Nichols, 2nd cousin to Calvin Nichols. She lives on her farm in Polk County, Arkansas. S. A. L. married A. J. Isham. They have raised a large family all of which now live in Commanche, Texas. S. A. married Alison Griffith, they both died last year in West Texas where their children now reside, only one (Danill) a doctor he lives in Chicago, Illinois. W. G., he married Caroline Isham (sister to A. J.), they have a large family of children all of which live in Commanche County, Texas. H. E. married C. C. Griffith (brother of Allison). They and their children live in West Texas. Grisham married Mattie Balthrop. They now live in Oklahoma. J. F. married Rebecca Nichols sister to George as above, she died then he married a widow lady in Atlanta, Georgia, where he still lives. Is a real estate agent. B. M. married Lulu Norris, daughter of Dr. J. A. Norris of Polk County, Arkansas. They with all their children live in Potawatamie County, Oklahoma. Politically - Our family and ancestors on both paternal and maternal sides are and have been strong democrats believing in States rights and every other doctrine held and advocated by the true democratic party and have often from time to time held office of trust on that platform. Therefore it would be expected that they would be on the side of the South in the hard struggle of the war between the States, which they were. Religiously - Believing in that principle that would leave everyone to the free worship of God according to the dictates of his conscience. The entire separation of church and State and the doctrine that the New Testament furnished sufficient rule both of faith and practice and that other doctrine that everything taught by prescript or example in the New Testament should be obeyed, and that which was not so taught had no binding form and should not be imposed on the conscience of men. So it would be expected to find them Baptists which as a family they have been all the way down the line with very few exceptions, with many Baptist ministers among them. They usually have large families, are of Scotch descent with a good percent of Dutch, mostly the Scotch shows by a hump on the nose, a little Roman nose. Jesse Mercer Green, the subject of this sketch was born on Sharp Mountain Creek near what was then called the Indian Ball Ground (which is now the town of Indian Ball Ground, Cherokee County, Georgia) on April 17th, 1836. This is before the Indians moved west, and hence was the Cherokee Nation. He was the second son of William W. Green and Hannah Dover Green. At two years of age my father bought, or drawed some land (the Cherokee land was drawed for, much like the Comanches land for in Oklahoma) five miles north of Canton, where he lived till I was eleven years old, except one year we lived in Forsyth County 8 miles from Dalton, or it was then Cross Plains. Here we lived on the Connasauga River until I was grown. On December 19th 1852, I was married to Cynthia P. Dean, who died 15 months later with spinal meningitis. Had a child born dead. This was a new country full of game and fish and good stock range with all the advantages and disadvantages of a new country, but we had good religious parents to teach and train us and as this was the age when parents believed Solomon, that to spare the rod you spoil the child, so the switches did not grow in vain around our place. Many times I had my back striped and sometimes cut with switches trying to make a good boy out of me, and whether it was the best way or not, they thought it was, and I honor them greatly for it. They didn't depend entirely on the rod, for father would try to instruct us and pray for us around the fireside and in the field and so did all the Christian parents. I will say more about this when I get to my religious life. After wife died I went back to father and lived with him a year. I then went with some of our neighbors to West Texas, Bell County. That was frontier country then. We started October 4th 1854, with horse and ox teams for there was no rail roads to travel. A greater trip than now to go to the Philippine Islands. None of us had ever traveled any and the terrible tales told about the mud in the swamps, and robbers, but we traveled on and in just one month we crossed the Mississippi River at Helena, Arkansas. We had to cross the river in hand propelled ferries and had to wait 5 days for our turn to cross. There were five wagons in our bunch, to-wit: C. H. Isham, M. O. Coker, Vol Wilson, Doc and Murt McGuire, Henry Mayfield and myself, all of us single young men who bore our part of the expenses of travel. We all had our guns and there was plenty of game so we had a jolly time hunting along the road. From Helena, Henry Mayfield, my traveling companion and I and the McGuire boys concluded that we would work awhile on the river and then go to Texas by water in the spring. There we found work on a flat boat loaded with hay for New Orleans. The river being so low we had to pull on the oars at every eddy and after we struck the tide water (150 miles above New Orleans) we had to pull all the time.

    01/24/1999 01:07:51
    1. [DOVER-L] Bladen County, North Carolina
    2. Dennis Dover
    3. Bladen County, North Carolina is just due east of York towards the coast. There are some names in the actual 1830/1840 census that I read some years ago as DOVER (Kinchen). I ran into Bladen County while scrolling the Buncombe censuses (same roll). Some interesting other names ... it's confusing and I don't know what to think. I've also not seen any of these Deaver types referenced in Bladen County from the Deaver lists. 1790 LAMB, John 188 01 02 05 00 00 MEMS, David 188 01 01 04 00 00 MEMS, James 188 01 02 02 00 00 MEMS, Shadarach 188 01 01 02 00 00 MEMS, Volentine 188 01 00 01 00 00 SHIPMAN, Daniel 188 03 00 02 00 00 1800 CAMPBELL, Margaret 116 00000-20010-00 YATES, John, esq. 116 00001-00101-09 YATES, John, jun. 116 30010-20010-01 YATES, Luke 116 41010-21010-00 BYRD, Alexander 118 10010-00100-00 WALL, Edward 118 10011-00011-00 MIMS, James 123 12010-31010-00 MIMS, James 123 12010-31010-03 MIMS, David 125 10101-01101-09 SHIPMAN, James 133 31101-21210-03 DAVIS, Hezekiah 139 11100-00010-01 DAVIS, Jemima 139 00100-00201-09 SUGGS, Alligood 158 13010-31001-00 ELLISON, Richard 160 20001-10010-00 DAVIS, Francis 164 01101-11210-06 1810 GUYTON, William 195 SUGGS, Alagood * 200 SUGGS, Alagood * 200 SUGGS, William 207 SUGGS, John 208 SHIPMAN, Daniel 209 DIVER, John 210 DIVES, M. 210 1820 GUYTON, William 126 SHIPMAN, James Jr. 138 SHIPMAN, James Sr. 138 SHIPMAN, Daniel 146 BROOM, John B. 150 DEVERS, Benjamin 162 BROOM, Thomas 166 1830 DOVE, JOHN 58 SAVAGE, JOHN 61 DOVE, DUNCAN 63 DEAVER, ALEXANDER 74 SHIPMAN, DANIEL 78 SHIPMAN, JAMES 78 DEAVER, BENJAMIN 79 HAMMOND, CHARLES 79 DEAVER, ALFRED 81 DEAVER, KINCHEN 82 SHIPMAN, HAYS F. 82 GUYTON, JAMES 85 1840 DEVER, Mary 175 DEVERE, Kinchan 175 DOVE, Archibald 176 BURLESON, Isaac 178 SHIPMAN, William 196 DEVER, Alexandert 198 DEVER, John 198 DEVER, William 198 SHIPMAN, D Aniel 202 SHIPMAN, Hase F. 202 SHIPMAN, James 202

    01/24/1999 12:57:55
    1. Fw: [DOVER-L] Jesse Green autobiography
    2. Tom & Laura
    3. I can't find the Jesse Green autobiography either. Any suggestions?? Thanks, Laura >Went to archives and couldn't find the autobiography. I typed in >Jesse Green autobiography and got Sharon's Post, which mentions the >autobiography. Where do I go now? Thanks Ruth > > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >Dover Family Geneology Forum >http://www.genforum.com/dover/ >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Dover >

    01/24/1999 11:26:34
    1. [DOVER-L] Ancestry.Com misc. info
    2. GAYLE CALABRESE
    3. Early Virginia Immigrants- 1623-1666 DOVER, Timothy, 1651, by Mr. Rowland Burnham, ------------Co. [I don't know what this means?] Tennessee Marriages to 1825 Richard DOVER married Dice Rice on 13 July 1812, in Roane County Tn.

    01/24/1999 09:00:55
    1. Re: [DOVER-L] Jesse Green autobiography
    2. GAYLE CALABRESE
    3. Yes, Who was the person who first brought up the Jesse Green "Autobiography?" I only have a letter summary of the Green family line, and have just heard of the autobiography via this list. Somebody, 'fess up! Also, it would be really helpful if you cousins would answer the questions I sent out around Christmas with the "list." It would be greatly appreciated........g. -----Original Message----- From: Tom & Laura <tom-lauramsn@email.msn.com> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, January 24, 1999 6:28 PM Subject: Fw: [DOVER-L] Jesse Green autobiography >I can't find the Jesse Green autobiography either. Any suggestions?? >Thanks, Laura > > > >>Went to archives and couldn't find the autobiography. I typed in >>Jesse Green autobiography and got Sharon's Post, which mentions the >>autobiography. Where do I go now? Thanks Ruth >> >> >> >>==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >>Dover Family Geneology Forum >>http://www.genforum.com/dover/ >>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Dover >> > > > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >Some of the information you see may not be verified. Remember to verify sources yourself. > >

    01/24/1999 08:56:06