Lou, Now I've placed where you are in the line-up. I only have Lula J Dover md. JC Lindsey. Was she md. more than one time, then? Where does the Isaac Cornelius Dover fit in? Do you know Tomilene Higginbottom? Her grandfather was Thomas Mansel Dover, a brother of Lula. I corresponded with her several years ago. She provided me with a few clues on my own line of Dover, that ended up finding the cemetery where my EB is buried, and the church where he last preached. It turned out to be a wealth of information!!! I don't have a lot of info on your Anderson Mansel Dover's children except the names of children and who they md. No dates at all on them. Would love to have your information to add to my Anderson Dover file. Sharon Sukiennik

Can someone please explain what the land lottery is to me? I think I understand, but am not sure. Sharon Dover Romanek -----Original Message----- From: Cloversc@aol.com <Cloversc@aol.com> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 2:52 PM Subject: [DOVER-L] Francis J. Dover Was checking ancestry.com today and found the following, in case not all interested searchers have it: Reprint of Official Drawing of Land Lottery of GA 1827 21st Day's Drawing 3/30 Fortunate Drawers: Francis J. Dover Captains District: Cross Number: 290 District: 20 County: Muscogee 42nd Day's Drawing 4/24 Fortunate Drawers: Francis J. Dover, R.S. Captains District: Cross Number: 247 District: 2 County: Troop So it looks like he drew land in two GA counties. Janelle D ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Dover Family Geneology Forum http://www.genforum.com/dover/ http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Dover

Dennis, Think Elijah is older than you are figuring. Elijah D. on 1850 says he's 79 yrs so would place him b.ca 1771. The 1860 York Co census P. 409 says he is 90 years old. So, that would place him b. ca 1770. Sharon R., Dennis is my land expert! :-) Sharon S

Dennis, I am sure you have this info but I will post just in case. We have some new records of Greene Co in our library here in Clay Co: Index to Old Wars Pension Files 1815-1926: Elijah Dover IA-13792R filed in 1847 in SC (no other data on card) (IA could mean Iowa or Invalid's Application). Greene Co AR DOVER Wills (older): Alberta Bk 5, Pg 111-1975. John B Bk 2, Pg 137-1935. Mino Franklin Bk 3, Pg 16-1953. W F Bk 2, Pg 51-1930. DOVER PROBATE : (older) H F case #1521-1962 W F case #672-1948. DOVER Marriages to 1910 from Index: GROOMS: Andrew L to Tennessee V Yates, Bk 2, Pg 22-1876. J B to Lula Stephenson, Bk 3, Pg 225-1886. James M to Cordelia A Anderson, Bk 2, Pg 132-1877. John to Julia Rucker, Bk 3, Pg 380-1888. L B to Ida Astrop, Bk 7, Pg 407-1902. Rufus to Diva Steele, Bk 11, Pg 294-1910. W H to Anna Lafaoon, Bk 6, Pg 551-1900. Wilford to Dollie Phillips, Bk 9, Pg 480-1907. William F to Martha E Howell, Bk 2, Pg 310-1879. William W to Minnie Garland, Bk 7, Pg 341-1902. DOVER BRIDES TO 1910: Cordelia A to Thomas M L Brewer Bk 3, Pg 114-1883. G A to B D Bently Bk 2, Pg 262-1879. Georgia A to Gillis A Dollehite Bk 3, Pg 115-1883. In our library at Piggott we also have Greene Co Census and Cemetery records plus the AR Death Index books up to 1940. I will be happy to look up anything on Dovers in these books, Thanks, Una Pollard. -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Dover <ddover@earthlink.net> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 10:23 PM Subject: [DOVER-L] Randolph Co., Arkansas >Randolph County, Arkansas below is in northeast Arkansas >close to Izard and Greene County. My family (Bailey A. >Dover) was in Greene Co. Samuel Z. & his mother Susan were >in Izard. Don't recognize Daisy. > >"Cemeteries and Burial Sites of Randolph County Arkansas" by >Margaret A. Barnhart > >Bradford Cemetery: > >DOVER, Daisy Marie >died 29 Dec 1985 >age 80 yrs 8 mos 25 days > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >http://pages.cthome.net/familytree/ >Subscribe instructions > >

Was checking ancestry.com today and found the following, in case not all interested searchers have it: Reprint of Official Drawing of Land Lottery of GA 1827 21st Day's Drawing 3/30 Fortunate Drawers: Francis J. Dover Captains District: Cross Number: 290 District: 20 County: Muscogee 42nd Day's Drawing 4/24 Fortunate Drawers: Francis J. Dover, R.S. Captains District: Cross Number: 247 District: 2 County: Troop So it looks like he drew land in two GA counties. Janelle D

Have you followed up on Hardaway Youngblood (aka Hardaway Dover)? "Index to Indian Wars Pension Files 1892-1926 Vol 1:A-K " page 419 transcribed by Virgil D. White shows: Dover, Hard alias Hardaway Youngblood SC - 2103 GA 27 Feb 1893 Cherokee War Service Has anyone in your group obtained a copy of this military record? Many times these records are full of gen. data and clues of places to look. Most had to be witnessed and often times the witnesses were relatives, in-laws, etc. Again, clues! Look at names around them. Like Samuel Zachary Dover on 1880 Izard Co, AR has his mother on one side of him and his father-in-law on the other side. By the way, his wife, Mary Ann Carpenter's parents were Lawson Carpenter/Sarah Causner. Look at each of Samuel's kids and who they married. Try to find names of parents for the spouses. Look at Sam's grandchildren and who they married. Compare the surnames and see if there is any connection. Sometimes they were marrying cousins, or people connected to relations. The early years, population was sometimes sparse, travel hard, so they md. neighbors or close to the same vacinity. I can see possibilities with the Carpenter name. There were Carpenters that md. into the early Col. Fred Hambright descendants - might be a possible connection to Mary Dover Hambright. Campbell is a name that I find extremely important in researching the early Dover. Elijah Dover b.ca 1770 and wife Mary were living with a Margaret Campbell on the 1850 York Co, SC census. Margaret was born ca 1800. Was she a daughter? Age would work. If Campbell is her md. name, who was she md. to? Does she have any kind of connection to Susan Campbell? Youngblood is another name I would explore. There might be someone in that line that has information on Hardaway and Susan the Youngblood widow. Sometimes taking a look at the allied families can find a wealth of info and clues! I have a great deal of data on some of the allied lines to Dover in the early Kings Creek area. I know Dennis does as well, and some of the others on the list. If you can gather some early names, like parents of Samuel's kids' spouses, there may be something that rings a bell, or might fit in with another line that would help make a connection of Samuel to an earlier line. Not a lot of concrete data has been formed on this Elijah Dover, but some of the names that are possibly connected are Robinson, Gordon, Kell, Allred, Lanier, Hartness and possibly some others like Wilson and Roman. Please keep us posted as you update. There may be something we can help you out with. Sharon S.

Is there anyone on the list who can tell me who the father of Samuel Dover born 1797 in SC is? I am working trying to get some of the information from the list into my notes and have no father listed for him that I have run across in the notes yet. I have this listed as the family of Marolyn Folkner Howell from the list and also Deb Smyre. I am not sure if Deb is still on the list or not. Could someone help me out here. It would sure save me some time and confusion. Thanks To a Great Bunch Sharon Dover Romanek ============================================== Sharon DOVER Romanek Prescott, Az Researching: KIRKSEY, DOVER, TYNER, SHRADER, EDGE, WILLIAMS romanek@cybertrails.com Sept. 30-May 15 romanek@salisbury.net May 30-Sept 15 sromanek@hotmail.com Year Round Back-Up only

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_920655220_boundary Content-ID: <0_920655220@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Lou, Before I forget, the date you had listed for Susan Dover/John W Gunter - 23 Dec 1819 is actually the date of marriage for Celia Dover/Jesse Cross in Habersham Co. Susan's marriage date is 4 Dec 1832 Habersham Co,GA. I am not trying to confuse anyone, but Susan listed as a dau. of FJD is something that bothers me, too. There is a John W. Gunter on 1830 Habersham Co. listed between FJD and Simpson Dover. Age is 20-30 and only male in the household. Only other possibility for him on census would in Reuben Gunter household, and the age again would be 20-30 if this were him. The same problem of age and not being listed in household of FJD on early census would hold true for Susan, if she is near the age of either of these possibilites. 1810 youngest female living with FJD is 10-16 (Celia?) 1820 only female is 45+ living with FJD 1830 no female living with FJD Susan and John W Gunter are not listed on 1840 Habersham. Does anyone know where they may have gone? Would sure like to find them on 1840-50 to get a better idea of just what her age was!!!! Randy, In Mary L Fox's claim, she says that Thomas Cross, her grandfather, was 1/4 Indian blood. Tradition when I first started researching Dover was saying the Cross kids were 3/4 Indian. I have several of the Cherokee Claim files that I have ordered pertaining to Dover connections. If you haven't seen them, they are full of family data if you are lucky enough to find one that has filed from your family line. My understanding on these claims, and someone correct me here if I am wrong, was that a denial certainly did not mean that a conclussion was made that they were not of Indian blood. To qualify, didn't their ancestors have had to be enrolled during the time of the removal? I know the 1838 date is mentioned. Sharon S --part0_920655220_boundary Content-ID: <0_920655220@inet_out.mail.ix.netcom.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <LEllis@ix.netcom.com> Received: from rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (rly-zd03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.227]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 17:28:58 -0500 Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.4]) by rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA08078 for <SSukiennik@aol.com>; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA26972; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:28:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from unknown(207.221.95.109) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma026799; Wed Mar 3 16:27:34 1999 Message-ID: <36DDD38F.168F3365@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:27:59 -0800 From: Lou Morton Ellis <LEllis@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) To: SSukiennik@aol.com CC: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DOVER-L] Francis vs. Hezikiah References: <63ba009a.36dca999@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sharon, This is what I have in my notes for Francis J. Dover: The following record of the family of FRANCIS J. DOVER was sent to Mrs. Green by a descendant, Mrs. Edwin McMann of Oklahoma City, Okla. FRANCIS DOVER, b. 6-28-1760 in Haw River, N.C., m. MARY MULLINAX, dau. of JOHN MULLINAX of S.C., and Francis d. 12-13-1851 in Habersham Co., Ga. Their children were: Johnson, b. 1787, S.C., m. HULDA -- - , lived Habersham Co., Ga. Rebecca, b 1-23-1793, S.C., m. THOMAS CROSS in Pendleton Dist., S.C., later lived in Habersham Co., Ga. Anderson, b 34-1794, S.C., m. I st JANE CROSS 2nd CATHERINE HANCOCK of Murray Co., Ga. 3rd MIRANDA McDonald d. 4-17-1885, Polk Co., Ark. Simpson, b. 1800, S.C., m. LUCY A. DOOLEY of Habersham Co., Ga. Elijah Benjamin, b. 1817, S.C., Jarrett Nelson, b. 1818 m. MATILDA GOODSON in Habersham Co., Ga. Thompson Susan, m. JOHN W. GUNTER in Habersham Co., Ga. 12-23-1819 Celia, m. JESSE CROSS in Habersham Co., Ga. Is it Elijah Benjamin or Elijah Benson??? SSukiennik@aol.com wrote: > > Diane, > > I agree, except now would be a good time for me to add that I am descended > from Elijah Benson Dover b. 1817, and I don't think that he is the Benson > named by Jesse Green. Yes, I know that he has been listed by DAR and SAR, but > if you look very carefully at FJD census records, there is never anyone listed > in his age group in the household of FJD. Same for Jarrett Nelson Dover who > is listed and even younger than my EB. I believe, and may never be able to > prove, that they are the sons of Johnson Dover/Hulda Cross. Both of them fit > the census records of Johnson. My EB was even living next door to Johnson on > the 1850 census, which of course, doesn't prove anything either :-( > > I am not disputing that Benson and Nelson may have been sons of FJD, just the > ones that have been attached as sons, would seem more likely grandsons. In > all my years of researching this, I have only run across one other researcher > in my own line that had done an in depth study of FJD. She had already > reached the same opinion that I was forming at the time. Why is there so much > information on Anderson and Wm Simpson, but little or nothing is known about > Johnson, who apparently never left Habersham Co? > > I've tried finding someone in Cross and Goodson, hoping that maybe some of > them had some kind of record. That hasn't worked out either. It does look > like Anna Goodson and Matilda Goodson were sisters. There is a probate on > Jarrett Nelson Dover that lists kids, but absolutely nothing so far to suggest > who Johnson's kids were. > > I have about run out of ideas. Anybody have any suggestions? > > Jesse never mentioned that these sons lived to be adults, either. Sure wish > he'd filled in more blanks while he was at it!!!! > > Sharon S --part0_920655220_boundary--

I'm not arguing with Gayle's comments because the things she described did occur. General Winfield Scott issued an Order on May 17, 1838 which said in part ...... "White men and widows, citizens of the United States, who are, or have been intermarried with Indians .... will not be molested or removed by the troops ...." This is the larger picture of the tragedy in 1838 ... the disruption of families. Perhaps four thousand + died along the Trail of Tears. Dennis

The address for the DOVER-L Archived messages is: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?surname=D OVER-L You'll get an input screen showing our messages for 1998 and 1999. Patricia started the DOVER-L in June 1998. Pick a year AND enter your key search words in the query box. Press Search or hit the ENTER key. You'll get a complete list of the messages that contain your SEARCH WORD. You can then check each of the messages from this last screen. There could easily be 200 years of combined research experience that provided the information contained in DOVER-L, much of it researched and found before computers and the internet ....

GAYLE CALABRESE wrote: > > If anybody on the list needs a look up I have an American Atlas with cities > and lat/long. and their counties if you need something checked.{It was > copyrighted in 1978, but it's doubtful there were many changes.] Anyway, I > am going to check what is near Lawrence co. -----gaelcee. Hi Gayle, The counties that surround Lawerance are Giles co, to the right. Wayne Co, to the left, and above it is, Maury co. What thru me off, was I was looking for Loretta Co.. It didn't even dawn on me that it was a town, LOL. I finally took our Altas out of the car:) Patricia

I there anyone on this list related to Theodore William Dover and Nancy Jane REED. I have posted this line a few times and had made no connections. I would really like to find somebody that has more information. Theodore Dover was born in Ohio December 22, 1842 . They had the following children. Alonzo Dover ( My Great Grandfather) Sarah Dover Isaac Dover Daniel Dover Jesse Dover Flora Bell Dover Albert Dover I have been watching and posting to this list for about 6 months now and have had no connections. Always searching! Trudy Nickens

To add another fact about the Cherokee Removal, only full blood Native American's were removed. Don't know the numbers, but there's a big reduction in families for the 1840 censuses for northern Georgia. If anyone is interested in this part of our cultural history there's a book by John Ehle in paperback called Trail of Tears, the Rise and Fall of the Cherokee Nation. It might surprise you that a number of the Cherokee chief's were partly or mostly of white origins. Sharon S. mentioned the DAR and SAR. These are the initials for Daughters of the American Revolution and Sons of the American Revolution. Both Francis J. Dover and Joshua Dover served in the American Revolution. Both were denied their pensions in 1832 because the government had no records and because Francis and Josh didn't still have their discharge records. Transcsripts of both these applications are in the DOVER-L archives. I think I remember that both Francis and Joshua were wounded while in service. It is the pension hearing of Francis that proves Hezekiah Dover is his younger brother. Dennis

Francis is the oldest, most documented and best known of the early Dover family. Poor man can't be the father of a legion of sons. Anderson is second, but THE most documented of the early Dover family. The rest of the family falls way short of the sunlight on this particular father and son. Bad deal for the majority of us! I think the thing about Francis and his brother Hezekiah that I wonder about the most is whether they are the only brothers in their family ...? Sure could see a John fit in here with them, plus a couple of others. If the only confirmed sons of Francis are Anderson and Johnson, when there are others .... just seems the same kind of omission "could" have occurred way back when that led up to the names in the 1934 letter. I've gone full cycle in my own thinking whether there is just one Dover family or not. If there is anyone on the DOVER-L who hasn't seen the 1934 letter, it's in the archives. Easier yet, send me an e-mail and I'll send the letter in a generic text file. Dennis

I posted this last week but just learned today my posts aren't making it to the list for some reason (HTML problem, I turned it off but it's still on there. I may have to send everything from home from now on.). I'll post it again My line: Randy Dover Chattanooga TN Son of Dale H. Dover, Grandson of Vernon Monroe Dover, G Grandson of Alfred Frank Dover, GG Grandson of William Alfred Dover, GGG Grandson of Anderson Dover, GGGG Grandson of Francis J. Dover Also researching DURHAM, BLANSIT (BLANCET / BLANCETT), HOWARD, COBB AND CREEKMORE LINES. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Lou, I have trailed on the research of others - Sharon mentioned Joe McGriff and others, but no where have I seen proof of Francis having a son named Elijah. We researchers have to be VERY careful in seeing a name that fits a pattern any assume that it must be the same family. (I'm not saying that is what you were doing. :-) ) It could have been one of the ...son's (Anderson, Johnson, etc.) liked the pattern and continued it. We do know that there was an Elijah Benson (don't we Dennis and Sharon S.) but does anyone know for sure if there was an Elijah Benjamin? Randy On Wed, 03 Mar 1999 15:39:11 -0800 Lou Morton Ellis <LEllis@ix.netcom.com> writes: >I am thoroughly confused (however, that is not hard for me!) Is >ELIJAH BENSON or ELIJAH BENJAMIN the son of FRANCIS J. DOVER? I >have Elijah Benjamin listed as his son m. in 1832 in Habersham. If >this is correct, then where does Elijah Benson go???...Lou >Morton Ellis > >Diane Bingham wrote: >> >> I am always interested in this type of conversation, since so much >is >> unknown and there are so many ways to interpret what we do know. >> Regarding the sons of FJD, I've always wondered about that. We know >that >> one son, Simpson, had a first name of William and then there was >Elijah >> Benson. Perhaps one of the other sons was Michael something. >However, >> the speculation from Sharon S.is more plausible. The close proximity >to >> Hezikiah is probably closer to the truth. Maybe someday, someone >will >> stumble across the missing link. >> Later... Diane Bingham >> >> ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >> Some of the information you see may not be verified. Remember to >verify sources yourself. > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >Dover Family Geneology Forum >http://www.genforum.com/dover/ >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Dover > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Gayle, The correct name is Larkin Calloway b. December 03, 1825, in Habersham County, GA d. August 08, 1916 in Hatfield, Polk County, AR. Larkin's dad was Anderson. Randy BTW you may have a point about Samuel and nicknames. Could be pertinent to other people. On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:18:01 -0800 "GAYLE CALABRESE" <GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net> writes: >Sharon, Just to muddy up the water a bit more-----The "older" woman >was a >Campbell, as was Samuel Dover's[b.1797] wife Susan. That has been a >source >of intrigue for me! Another thing that bothers me is that There are >time >periods in a person's life when you might use your first name only, or >your >middle, or even a nickname or AKA. I know there has been some talk of >how >certain people are really the same. Yet, just the same we make the >assumption that when we see a name we think of it as a different >person.but >I feel that Samuel didn't just drop out of the sky. Yet he doesn't >begin to >leave a paper trail until 1843 or so. We know that he was born in SC, >as was >Susan. He probably met her in Gwinnett Co. when he was driving the >stagecoach between Augusta and Alabama. He is found in the same areas >of Ga. >of those such as William Simpson, Anderson, and Larkin/Lawson, >whichever >one- help me out here guys. I know of a relationship of the Bird/Byrd >family and my line, which ties to some of these I believe. My line is >related to the other Dovers in North Ga. such as those who passed >through - >above like Wm. Simpson in Walker Co. Ga.and soon. There are all these >people or their children, running around here, Whitfield/Murray/ >Catoosa >counties in Ga. around the same time, or Polk Co. Tn.- just over the >line. >I am just winging it here, and don't have time to be specific. Just >the >same, I feel that Samuel was quite probably known as someone else, but >who I >don't know. I seem to recall that one of the fellows sort of >disappears >about the time we notice Samuel, but can't remember who I was thinking >about. He may well have been a widower using a different name, before >Susan >for all we know. I tend to believe that Samuel was either a son of the >Elijah who was supposedly a son of the 1st John, or Hezikiah. Which of >course, at this point, is as good a theory as any. But right now I >have >been trying to establish the link between the Dovers in these n. Ga. >counties. What would happen if we just pick a county to start- perhaps >the >earliest , like York Co. and each of us post anything we have on any >Dover/Dovers/Dove/Devor- or names we KNOW to be a Dover, not Deavers, >which >has been proven to be a whole other line , or Davis, unless known to >be a >mistake, and so on etc. As well as their spouse's name and proven >children. >Then let's follow their route to say, Habersham Co/ or the area around >York? >What does everyone think? It seems if we narrow our focus for one >area >we'll pull together something for most of us. Naturally, we would >still be >submitting any Dover/info we find in addition to this idea. I am >convinced >that the ADD / hyperactivity and such found in my family comes from >this >evasive Dover genes!!!!!!......Hope to hear back....gaelcee >-----Original Message----- >From: SSukiennik@aol.com <SSukiennik@aol.com> >To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 11:16 AM >Subject: [DOVER-L] Francis J Dover's "will" > > >>Habersham Co, Ga >>Deed Book N Page 355 >> >>In a deed dated 4 Dec 1834 Francis J Dover literally gave everything >he >owned >>to his son Anderson. This deed reads like a will, for those who may >not be >>familar with it. It included land, three notes that were owed to him >by >named >>people, livestock, household furniture and farming equipment, 100 >bushels >of >>corn, and hay and fodder -- everything. >> >>The strange thing is that FJD did not die until 1851. Why would he >give >away >>everything like he did, when he did??? >> >>ON 1820 Habersham, there is an older female living with FJD. On >1830, he >is >>living by himself. On 1840, he again has an older female living with >him. >We >>know from court documentation that FJD was md. to Mary Mullinax >Dover, >because >>they signed a Power of Attorney to Absalom Mullinax dated 21 June >1838 in >>Habersham Co, GA. >> >>To date, I know of no one who has found a record of either this >marriage or >>the marriage to ? Posey that Jesse Green named as FJD's wife. If >memory >>serves me, believe that marriage records were being kept by 1819 in >Habersham >>Co. We know there is a record of Celia Dover/Jesse Cross recorded in >Dec >>1819. If FJD was by himself on 1830 and we know he was md and in >Habersham >>Co. 1838 with Mary Mullinax, then they probably got md between 1830 & >38. >>There is no marriage record for them in Habersham Co, GA --- so, >where >did >>they marry?????? >> >>I've thought about this, and thought about this. It would make >sense, if >when >>he md. Mary Mullinax, she already had a home and everything, that he >decided >>to give everything he had to Anderson. But, if he just moved down >the road >>why would he give up the notes of money that were owed to him? I >really >have >>to wonder, if he actually left Habersham Co.and md Mary somewhere >else. If >>that's the case, where would he have gone? Would only be a three or >four >year >>period before he was back in Habersham Co. in time to sign the Power >of >>Attorney. >> >>Any other opinions? >> >>Sharon S >> >> >>==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >>As always, RootsWeb remains supported by user contributions. >>Folks who would like to become a RootsWeb Member or Sponsor >>(the cost is very modest) are invited to visit: >><http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html> >>$1.00 a month makes you a member >> > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >Dover Family Geneology Forum >http://www.genforum.com/dover/ >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Dover > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Lou, I suppose you may have figured out that Hulda below is a Cross. Jesse and Hulda and Thomas and Jane were siblings that married four Dover siblings. There is rumor the Cross family was of Cherokee descent which is one reason there have been many claims submitted by Dovers (none approved so far) for Cherokee enrollment. There is a further rumor that the Cross' dad fought in the Revolutionary War. Randy On Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:27:59 -0800 Lou Morton Ellis <LEllis@ix.netcom.com> writes: >Sharon, This is what I have in my notes for Francis J. Dover: >The following record of the family of FRANCIS J. DOVER was sent to >Mrs. Green by a descendant, Mrs. Edwin McMann of Oklahoma City, >Okla. >FRANCIS DOVER, b. 6-28-1760 in Haw River, N.C., m. MARY MULLINAX, dau. >of JOHN MULLINAX of S.C., and Francis d. 12-13-1851 in >Habersham Co., Ga. Their children were: > Johnson, b. 1787, S.C., m. HULDA -- - , lived Habersham Co., >Ga. > Rebecca, b 1-23-1793, S.C., m. THOMAS CROSS in Pendleton >Dist., S.C., later lived in >Habersham Co., Ga. > Anderson, b 34-1794, S.C., m. I st JANE CROSS > 2nd CATHERINE HANCOCK of Murray Co., Ga. > 3rd MIRANDA McDonald > d. 4-17-1885, Polk Co., Ark. > Simpson, b. 1800, S.C., m. LUCY A. DOOLEY of Habersham Co., >Ga. > Elijah Benjamin, b. 1817, S.C., > Jarrett Nelson, b. 1818 m. MATILDA GOODSON in Habersham Co., >Ga. > Thompson > Susan, m. JOHN W. GUNTER in Habersham Co., Ga. 12-23-1819 > Celia, m. JESSE CROSS in Habersham Co., Ga. > >Is it Elijah Benjamin or Elijah Benson??? > >SSukiennik@aol.com wrote: >> >> Diane, >> >> I agree, except now would be a good time for me to add that I am >descended >> from Elijah Benson Dover b. 1817, and I don't think that he is the >Benson >> named by Jesse Green. Yes, I know that he has been listed by DAR >and SAR, but >> if you look very carefully at FJD census records, there is never >anyone listed >> in his age group in the household of FJD. Same for Jarrett Nelson >Dover who >> is listed and even younger than my EB. I believe, and may never be >able to >> prove, that they are the sons of Johnson Dover/Hulda Cross. Both >of them fit >> the census records of Johnson. My EB was even living next door to >Johnson on >> the 1850 census, which of course, doesn't prove anything either :-( >> >> I am not disputing that Benson and Nelson may have been sons of FJD, >just the >> ones that have been attached as sons, would seem more likely >grandsons. In >> all my years of researching this, I have only run across one other >researcher >> in my own line that had done an in depth study of FJD. She had >already >> reached the same opinion that I was forming at the time. Why is >there so much >> information on Anderson and Wm Simpson, but little or nothing is >known about >> Johnson, who apparently never left Habersham Co? >> >> I've tried finding someone in Cross and Goodson, hoping that maybe >some of >> them had some kind of record. That hasn't worked out either. It >does look >> like Anna Goodson and Matilda Goodson were sisters. There is a >probate on >> Jarrett Nelson Dover that lists kids, but absolutely nothing so far >to suggest >> who Johnson's kids were. >> >> I have about run out of ideas. Anybody have any suggestions? >> >> Jesse never mentioned that these sons lived to be adults, either. >Sure wish >> he'd filled in more blanks while he was at it!!!! >> >> Sharon S > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >Did you find info on a Dover that wasn't yours? Please post it > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Sharon (et all), Another thing that has puzzled me is: why didn't Francis mention any of his other children. From the records, we are pretty sure some of them were still alive. Anyone got any ideas? Randy On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 15:48:13 EST SSukiennik@aol.com writes: >Thanks Marjorie, You know I didn't realize that! I guess I figured >marriage >records were always recorded. I remember Dennis telling me that you >are very >familiar with GA records. A few years ago, I ordered some of the >Dover >marriage records in early Habersham hoping to get some kind of extra >info from >them. I was very disappointed, because it was only a one line thing >with >names and dates. I'm not very familiar with GA records. Did they >require >marriage bonds that might have futher data? If so, do you know what >periods >they might be available? Do you think it might help if I wrote them >back >asking for marriage bonds? One of the problems in Habersham is that >Johnson >has unaccounted for females as well has the older females that were >living in >Hezekiah's household on 1840. It would help if we could somehow sort >out who >belonged to who. > >Gayle, Are you saying there was a Campbell woman living with Francis >J Dover >on census? If that's what you are saying, who was she, which census >are we >talking about, and how do you know this?????? > >Sharon > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >If you have a web site with the Dover surname, Please pass it on > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_920599680_boundary Content-ID: <0_920599680@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_920599680_boundary Content-ID: <0_920599680@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: Pami54@aol.com Return-path: <Pami54@aol.com> To: toplawdog@msn.com Subject: John Dover Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:27:10 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I saw your query on the Dover GenForum. I have been searching for Joshua Dover born about 1790's in Kentucky. From as early as 1822 he lived in Greene County, IN and raised his family there. I know he was married to Nancy McFarland. Other Dovers that were in Greene County, IN were Neely, James, Archibold, Zephaniah, and John. The John Dover that lived in Greene County, was born in 1790 and had 4 children as pupils in 1825 in the first school in Beech Creek Twp. Greene County, IN All of these Dovers were supposed to born in KY. Do you know any of John's brothers? Of if your John was ever in Greene County? I'm hoping that since your family migrated to IN from KY and mine did too there might be a connection. We might have something to talk about. :)pam --part0_920599680_boundary--