This came from one of my other list.I thought I would pass it along in case it might help someone else. Sharon Dover Romanek Maiden names Tips on finding maiden names from the 1992 Jackson County, Michigan >> > Genealogical Society: >> > >> > Nothing will give greater clues to maiden names than the witnesses to old >> > wills. In the lower left hand corner of most deeds, you will find signatures >> > of two to four witnesses. The first is always from the husband's side. The >> > next is almost always from the wife's side and that is to protect her >> > one-third dower right under law. >> > >> > Mortgages: In the 1800s and before, it was traditional when the daughter >> > married, as part of her dowry, for the father to either >> > cover their mortgage or carry a note for his son-in-law. If you can find to >> > whom their mortgage payments were made, 70% of the time it will be the >> > bride's father.

James Arthur Underwood said his grandma, Celia Dover, is buried in Jockey Ga. Does anyone know where that is? We aren't sure of the spelling. Do you think it is possible her sister Addleisa Dover is buried there since we don't know where or when she died? Ruth

For those of you with Pope County, Arkansas connections, check out the 1880 census index at: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ar/pope/census/1880.txt No Dover shown, but possibly collateral lines. Please share your finds.

I thought I would let you all know that another list I am on, has someone who is kind enough to post the ENTIRE Census index for 1830 for Hamilton County, Tenn. If anyone would like me to forward it to you, just let me know. Happy to do so. I don't have the time to look for names, and will have to forward all of the post. There are 14 so far. ============================================== Sharon DOVER Romanek Prescott, Az Researching: KIRKSEY, DOVER, TYNER, SHRADER, EDGE, WILLIAMS romanek@cybertrails.com Sept. 30-May 15 romanek@salisbury.net May 30-Sept 15 sromanek@hotmail.com Year Round Back-Up only

Dover-L was put together, started and is maintained by Patricia Manson. Patricia also put together the Dover Family Association GenWeb page and Dover Queries at GenConnect at RootsWeb. I don't know how Patricia does it, but am I thankful. Dover-L began in mid-June 1998. I've lost some of our messages, but I show 1,743 being posted to date: Jun-98 89 (mid month) Jul-98 164 Aug-98 134 Sep-98 140 Oct-98 94 Nov-98 298 Dec-98 194 Jan-99 167 Feb-99 273 Mar-99 187 (mid month) Probably an easier way to check archived messages along with "other names" from other sources is to use the search engine at: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Dover Click the "Global Search" hyperlink just under the GenConnect at RootsWeb logo. You can use any surname and narrow the searches by geographic location. I found three or four messages that were pretty important yesterday. I think of DOVER-L as the main forum for the Dover and allied family online research. Besides the grind of records we also learn some of the stories like this one from Debbie Dover Conway: "During the Civil War when Sherman marched toward the sea burning everything in sight and taking whatever would be of use to him and his troops, he passed through the very tiny community of Hillsboro, Ga. This is Monticello, Georgia in Jasper County. When he came upon the homeplace of the Dover's of course he was taking and killing and burning. My great grandfather David Harvey Dover had a pony. As they watched the horror he began to cry and beg that they not take his pony. They did not. Everything else they could take down to household goods they took but they let him keep his pony."

I just thought I would let you all know that the names I posted for the Gilmer Co., Ga. Census Index for1840, do not show up in the on line version of the complete census, which I thought a little odd since they were listed in the index. Maybe a mistake here?? ============================================== Sharon DOVER Romanek Prescott, Az Researching: KIRKSEY, DOVER, TYNER, SHRADER, EDGE, WILLIAMS romanek@cybertrails.com Sept. 30-May 15 romanek@salisbury.net May 30-Sept 15 sromanek@hotmail.com Year Round Back-Up only

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/6370/gilmer/gilme r1840index.html Gilmer County, Georgia 1840 Federal Census Index NAME PAGE NO Dove, Polly 14 Dover, Francis 6 Dover, James H. 12 ============================================== Sharon DOVER Romanek Prescott, Az Researching: KIRKSEY, DOVER, TYNER, SHRADER, EDGE, WILLIAMS romanek@cybertrails.com Sept. 30-May 15 romanek@salisbury.net May 30-Sept 15 sromanek@hotmail.com Year Round Back-Up only

http://www.rootsweb.com/~gafannin/groom_cd.htm FANNIN CO. GA MARRIAGE RECORDS - GROOMS C-D 24 Oct 1880 DOVER, LINCH T. /MORRIS, MARTHA C./ WALKER, JOEL JP B-269 29 Apr 1892 DOVER, MC. /TOW, MAGGA /MCCAY, J.T. NP B-486 Anyone know who the bottom one is? ============================================== Sharon DOVER Romanek Prescott, Az Researching: KIRKSEY, DOVER, TYNER, SHRADER, EDGE, WILLIAMS romanek@cybertrails.com Sept. 30-May 15 romanek@salisbury.net May 30-Sept 15 sromanek@hotmail.com Year Round Back-Up only

This is a response from PONDER-L regarding a Malinda DOVER who married William R. Jehu PONDER about 1848 in Gordon Co., GA. Malinda was the daughter of a Baptist preacher. William PONDER was born in LINCOLN County, NC. Please "notice" the locations for the PONDER family in this list. The PONDER family is a teaser .... neighbors to the Dover's in both YORK and BUNCOMBE. A Jesse PONDER from York was a neighbor to Francis J. DOVER in Habersham. Descendants of William R. Jehu Ponder Generation No. 1 1. William R. Jehu6 Ponder (Jehu John5, Jesse4, Daniel3 Ponder?, Richard2 Ponder, John1) was born 18 August 1830 in Lincoln Co., NC, and died 9 April 1910 in Clay Co., AL. He married (1) Malinda Dover Abt. 1848 in Gordan Co., GA. He married (2) Jennette Garrett 20 January 1855 in Clay Co., AL, daughter of Lega Garrett. Notes for William R. Jehu Ponder: Sources: 1859 land records of Clay Co., AL; 1860 census Talladega Co., AL census; 1870 census Talladega Co., AL; " Confederate Veterans buried in Clay, Cleburne, and Randolph Co., AL"; tombstone at Marvin Chapel Cemetery, Clay Co., AL, on HWY 148 Ponder, William J. Born 18 August 1830, Rutherford Co., NC. (other sources say Lincoln Co., NC) Died 9 April 1910. Entered as a private, on 1 May 1862 at Talladega, A1 in Company T, 30 Alabama Regiment, and continued until discharged at the surrender. Alabama land records show a William J. Ponder acquiring 40.11 acres in Clay Co., AL. William lived in Clay Co., AL, on the same farm since 1868. Elizabeth Pearson Ponder, William's mother, was listed living with him in the 1870 Talladega Co., AL census. Notes for Malinda Dover: Malinda's father was a Baptist minister. Notes for Jennette Garrett: Source: "History of the Garrett Family" by Whitman Garrett Jennette was the daughter of Rev. Garrett. She is buried at Marvin Chapel Methodist Church Cemetery Child of William Ponder and Malinda Dover is: 2 i. John Jehu Leander7 Ponder, born Abt. 1849 in Gordan Co., GA; died 1896 in LA. He married Eliza Jane Hogan 1872. Notes for John Jehu Leander Ponder: John and Eliza left AL and moved to AK in 1883. In 1899 they moved to LA. Notes for Eliza Jane Hogan: Eliza was the daughter of William Hogan and Nancy Letitia Willis(daughter of Daniel and Elizabeth Willis who came to MS with several children in 1827). Eliza's parents died about 1860 and she was raised by her grandmother, Elizabeth Willis who was born in Ireland about 1800. Eliza had a sister, Mary Ann, who was born 7 Nov. 1859 and died 19 April 1899. Mary Ann married her first cousin, Collie Caroline Willis. Children of William Ponder and Jennette Garrett are: 3 i. Julia Ann7 Ponder, born Abt. 1857. She married V. J. Estes. 4 ii. Silas Bennett Ponder, born 20 April 1859 in Clay Co., AL. He married Adelia Ledbetter in Clay Co., AL. 5 iii. William Sidney Ponder, born 1862 in AL. 6 iv. J. Elizabeth Ponder, born 1864 in AL. She married Tom Davis. 7 v. Mary Ellen Ponder, born 1866. 8 vi. Marcus Layfayette Ponder, born 1868. 9 vii. Arthur Brittian Ponder, born 1872. 10 viii. Dovie Ponder, born Abt. 1874. 11 ix. Jeanette Ann Ponder, born Abt. 1876. 12 x. Marion Franklin Ponder, born Abt. 1878. 13 xi. Pearl Ponder, born Abt. 1880.

For those of you who are not aware of these DOVER pages: RootsWeb GenConnect has a DOVER Queries page at: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Dover GenForum has a DOVER Family Genealogy Forum at: http://genforum.genealogy.com/dover/ It pays to advertise so please use these pages in addition to the discussion group on DOVER-L. If you haven't posted to DOVER-L, please do so that the list members know your Dover connection and can give you some help. There's a lot of cumulative knowledge on DOVER-L, so please take advantage.

-----Original Message----- From: Bobby G. Dover [mailto:bdover@hiwaay.net] Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 11:49 PM To: Dennis Dover Subject: Re: [DOVER-L] FW: Missouri Dover Hello Dennis and All Don`t think Missouri and Mary are the same person. Mary was born 1837 in Ga and Missouri was born in Al 1845. Bobby ---------- > From: Dennis Dover <ddover@earthlink.net> > To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DOVER-L] FW: Missouri Dover > Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 5:17 AM > > Rosemary asked me to forward this to the list. > > -----Original Message----- > From: RHollis123@aol.com [mailto:RHollis123@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 12:19 AM > To: ddover@earthlink.net > Subject: Missouri Dover > > > Apparently, Missouri was called Mary also. She > married William Marion SHADIX in 1866 AL. > She was Jo Holloway Jones' gg grandmother. Her > grandson Edward Shaddix is 92 and still living. > I don't know what happened to the Mary who was > born in GA. I forget the last year she is listed on > a census. > > David DOVER Sr. > 1814 ,,SC > Sarah SPARKS > 1818 ,,GA > Child: > > Missouri Elizabeth M DOVER > b. 1845/1846 ,Talladega,AL > m.13 Sept 1866 AL > d. aft 1880 > SPOUSE > William Marion SHADIX > b. 13 Nov 1845 ,,GA > d. 1 Jan 1925 > son of: Robert Alexander SHADDIX > 2 Dec 1807 ,Coweta, GA > Sarah WALDEN > 8 Sep 1815 ,,GA > > CHILDREN-- of "Mary" and William Shaddix: > 1-John Alexander SHADIX > 2-William Daniel SHADIX- > 3-Sarah Adeline SHADIX > 4-Robert M. SHADIX > 5-Mollie E. SHADDIX > 6-Marion Thomas "Mark" SHADIX > 7-Nancy SHADIX > 8-George Franklin SHADIX > 9-Henry Taylor SHADIX > 10-James Andy Cicero SHADDIX > 11-Ella Lee SHADIX > 12-Emma Elizabeth SHADIX > 13-Wheeler Clay SHADIX > > > > >

the family tree i am working with is as follows. John Dover born about 1850 married Mary Carroll The only child I have for them is James R. Dover b 7/14/1878 in Gilmer County, Ga. married Rora Ann Phillips b 2/5/1884 Gilmer County, Ga died 5/3/1954 Ellijay, Ga their children were: Luther Walton Dover b 12/25/1902 m. Mary Weeks William Franklin Dover b 6/30/1904 m. Jannie Rogers John Carter Dover b 12/14/1906 m. Reba Irene Rogers (this is my line) James Alonzo Dover b 5/26/1908 m. Willena Burton Jud Anderson Dover b. 12/8/1909 Note: Rora Ann Phillips was adoped?? by John and Mary Carter. She and James Dover were divorced when? She then marrried ________White Any help will be greatly appreciated and will be returned if able. Thank You, Betsy Monaghan

I think I have the complete 1850 York census but don't seem to see anyone by the name of Jackson who did leave York after 1850. Need an initial for a name to cross check possible surname switches. Terry, you will have to go on the waiting list for adoptions. There's a bunch of people ahead of you. -----Original Message----- From: Terry Jackson [mailto:jacksont@nacell.net] Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 5:47 PM To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [DOVER-L] Jackson Dover Please pardon my ramblings. Can't find my Madison Dover so I'll just have to adopt some of your Dover ancestors. 1861 Blount Co., AL Tax Index Jackson Dover, (Blount Springs Beat), 1 white male, age 21-45 The family makeup looks like this. 1860 Blount Co., AL Federal Census Western Division Summit Post Office 6-14-1860 W. P. St. John, enumerator (appears to be microfilm page 862) 186-186 Jackson Dover, 31, SC (1829) Sarah, 19, SC (1841) John F., 6, SC (1854) Thomas, 2, AL (1858) So this looks like he was borm in SC 1829. Is Sarah the wife? / daughter? He'd only have been 12 when she was born. Is Sarah John F. Dover's mother? She'd have only been 13. She could be Thomas' mother, she'd have been 17. William and Fidelia Dover are here as well as the HH Green Dennis mentioned. But they're clear across the county. Any thoughts on who Jackson goes with? Terry ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== As always, RootsWeb remains supported by user contributions. Folks who would like to become a RootsWeb Member or Sponsor (the cost is very modest) are invited to visit: <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html> $1.00 a month makes you a member

Please pardon my ramblings. Can't find my Madison Dover so I'll just have to adopt some of your Dover ancestors. 1861 Blount Co., AL Tax Index Jackson Dover, (Blount Springs Beat), 1 white male, age 21-45 The family makeup looks like this. 1860 Blount Co., AL Federal Census Western Division Summit Post Office 6-14-1860 W. P. St. John, enumerator (appears to be microfilm page 862) 186-186 Jackson Dover, 31, SC (1829) Sarah, 19, SC (1841) John F., 6, SC (1854) Thomas, 2, AL (1858) So this looks like he was borm in SC 1829. Is Sarah the wife? / daughter? He'd only have been 12 when she was born. Is Sarah John F. Dover's mother? She'd have only been 13. She could be Thomas' mother, she'd have been 17. William and Fidelia Dover are here as well as the HH Green Dennis mentioned. But they're clear across the county. Any thoughts on who Jackson goes with? Terry

Dennis, I found this online today with some information on the Ohio Dover family. I thought the reference to "Lemuel" as a family name was of interest to you. "Sharon Gire, Sat Jan 17, 1998, 19:05:59 I am trying to determine if my great great grandfather, John DOVER, born in Muskingham Co., in about 1825, is the son of Daniel Dover, who owned land with his brother Hiram in Morgan Co. I have a fair amount of information from a cousin of Daniel about that Dover family, and have traced my Dovers back to 1870, but am looking for confirmation or denial of the link to Daniel Dover and his ancestors. Both families have a Lemuel, which makes me think they are related. Any help would be appreciated." Her e-mail address is "gires@juno.com"

Hi, Sorry, I'm so late with mine. Sherrod Dover m. ?? Sherrod was killed at the siege of Bexar nov. or Dec. 1835 according to old records. His only child was Elizabeth Ann Dover (Eliza) who married William Edward Owen. They resided in Bastrop co,Texas Any info on Sherrods parents would be appreciated.Or who his first wife was. Karen

>From Dover GenForum: Posted by Jeff Hannah on March 09, 1999 at 21:48:48: Looking for any info on George Dover who lived in North Ga area, born around 1870's, married Sara Lou Dale, of Rabun Co, GA. George probably died in White County, GA. They had several children, including Ben Dover, my grandfather.

-----Original Message----- From: RHollis123@aol.com [mailto:RHollis123@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 12:35 AM To: ddover@earthlink.net Subject: George W. DOVER George W. DOVER b. 11 Nov 1883 Clay Co.,AL m. Abt 1916 Catherine _____ d. 20 Sep 1961 Talladega Co.,AL bur: Union Cem.,Clay Co.,AL Father: John Alexander Abel DOVER * Mother: Martha Emily SHADDIX * NOTE: I see John's middle name listed as Alexander and also as Abel. Not knowing which is correct I entered both. His g gf was Abel Sparks. I also see David Dover listed with middle name Washington. But cannot learn where the source for this. Rosemary Nichols Hollis

Rosemary asked me to forward this to the list. -----Original Message----- From: RHollis123@aol.com [mailto:RHollis123@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 12:19 AM To: ddover@earthlink.net Subject: Missouri Dover Apparently, Missouri was called Mary also. She married William Marion SHADIX in 1866 AL. She was Jo Holloway Jones' gg grandmother. Her grandson Edward Shaddix is 92 and still living. I don't know what happened to the Mary who was born in GA. I forget the last year she is listed on a census. David DOVER Sr. 1814 ,,SC Sarah SPARKS 1818 ,,GA Child: Missouri Elizabeth M DOVER b. 1845/1846 ,Talladega,AL m.13 Sept 1866 AL d. aft 1880 SPOUSE William Marion SHADIX b. 13 Nov 1845 ,,GA d. 1 Jan 1925 son of: Robert Alexander SHADDIX 2 Dec 1807 ,Coweta, GA Sarah WALDEN 8 Sep 1815 ,,GA CHILDREN-- of "Mary" and William Shaddix: 1-John Alexander SHADIX 2-William Daniel SHADIX- 3-Sarah Adeline SHADIX 4-Robert M. SHADIX 5-Mollie E. SHADDIX 6-Marion Thomas "Mark" SHADIX 7-Nancy SHADIX 8-George Franklin SHADIX 9-Henry Taylor SHADIX 10-James Andy Cicero SHADDIX 11-Ella Lee SHADIX 12-Emma Elizabeth SHADIX 13-Wheeler Clay SHADIX

It is absolutely a must to check the real film out! No one has advocated "just" looking at an index. There would be too much information missed. Many people we're searching are often listed with other families, besides being listed under the wrong name. The census indexes are certainly a point of departure to get a general idea of who was where, and when. -----Original Message----- From: SSukiennik@aol.com <SSukiennik@aol.com> To: GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net <GAELCEE@worldnet.att.net>; Dover-L@rootsweb.com <Dover-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 11, 1999 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [DOVER-L] 1830 & 1840 Ga/Census Index >Only problem with dealing with just census indexes is that you can sometimes >miss some of the people that were actually there. Hezekiah Dover is also in >Habersham Co,GA on the 1840 census on page 124 of Blue Creek Dist. I had not >found him on an 1840 census index. It wasn't until Bobbie Jean Frank pointed >him out to me that I found him. On the printed census index, he was listed as >Hezekiah Douse. He is very clearly Hezekiah Dover on the actual census. It >does pay to look at the microfilmed census records! > >Sharon S >