Terry, I honestly didn't think there were even that many!! Just the same I don't ever mind sharing anything I find . I feel that Often The problem is finding the time to do it for any of us. It may be virtually impossible for some of our members, least of all finding research time. I know that at the present, I am in "regrouping" mode, because of having to take care of two households that are 52 miles apart, besides my regular work. There are people on the list who have to be spread out more than that everyday. It's understandable to be frustrated with those who might be "sitting" on information that would probably benefit others. It seems we just have to assume that people are doing all that they can within their schedules. All I know for sure is "what goes around, comes around." So I for one, will continue to share all that I find with each opportunity I can steal to do so. Don't give up on people, or stop in your efforts. You are real asset for us! ..........gaelcee -----Original Message----- From: Terry Jackson <jacksont@nacell.net> To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 10:54 PM Subject: [DOVER-L] Sharing >Patricia, >How many do we have on the list now? Seems like the Digest isn't coming >as frequently as it did for a while. That means the postings have >dwindled down. > >Out of curiousity, I went to the 1998 Dover archives and searched for >Dover. >I figured that would give me all the 1998 posts. It returned 1210 so I >only looked at the first 50. Out of that, there were only 13 different >posters. > >If we don't all post our data, nobody else knows where we are. If I >hadn't been posting all over the world, BJ couldn't have known my >Madison was the one that shows up in Commerce/Blodgett MO in 1870, >Richard Nix couldn't have made the connection to Madison in 1880 Bartow >Co. GA because there were no children under 10 in the household. > >I guess I'm just on a soapbox. I'll get off it now but would just like >to make a plea for more participation. > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >The Dover mailing list, home page. >A list of links to all the Dover GenConnect boards and other links >http://pages.cthome.net/familytree/ >

Patricia, How many do we have on the list now? Seems like the Digest isn't coming as frequently as it did for a while. That means the postings have dwindled down. Out of curiousity, I went to the 1998 Dover archives and searched for Dover. I figured that would give me all the 1998 posts. It returned 1210 so I only looked at the first 50. Out of that, there were only 13 different posters. If we don't all post our data, nobody else knows where we are. If I hadn't been posting all over the world, BJ couldn't have known my Madison was the one that shows up in Commerce/Blodgett MO in 1870, Richard Nix couldn't have made the connection to Madison in 1880 Bartow Co. GA because there were no children under 10 in the household. I guess I'm just on a soapbox. I'll get off it now but would just like to make a plea for more participation.

DITTO Terry!!! Thanks. I have just about run out of Internet items to post. Will have to wait until I get to NC in about 6 weeks for some good stuff to post. Sharon Dover Romanek ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Jackson <jacksont@nacell.net> To: <DOVER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 10:54 PM Subject: [DOVER-L] Sharing Patricia, How many do we have on the list now? Seems like the Digest isn't coming as frequently as it did for a while. That means the postings have dwindled down. Out of curiousity, I went to the 1998 Dover archives and searched for Dover. I figured that would give me all the 1998 posts. It returned 1210 so I only looked at the first 50. Out of that, there were only 13 different posters. If we don't all post our data, nobody else knows where we are. If I hadn't been posting all over the world, BJ couldn't have known my Madison was the one that shows up in Commerce/Blodgett MO in 1870, Richard Nix couldn't have made the connection to Madison in 1880 Bartow Co. GA because there were no children under 10 in the household. I guess I'm just on a soapbox. I'll get off it now but would just like to make a plea for more participation. ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== The Dover mailing list, home page. A list of links to all the Dover GenConnect boards and other links http://pages.cthome.net/familytree/

Joseph Dover, son of long lost Joshua Dover of Greene Co, IN. was quite a guy. I thought I would share his story. Enjoy :)pam Source: "Adjutant Generals Report for the State of Indiana" by W.H.H. Terrell 1861-1865 Volume 5, page 487. Gives same information as below. >From the book "Gone But Not Forgotten" by Millie Uland. Joseph Dover was mustered into the military November 21, 1861 at Jeffersonville, Indiana at the age of 26 for a period of three years. At the time he was living at Silver Creek, Greene County He was 5 feet 10 inches tall, light complexioned, blue eyes, and light hair. April 25, 1862 Joseph Dover was sent to the General Hospital, Lexington, Kentucky and returned from the hospital on June 30, 1862. On December 20, 1862 Joseph Dover left sick at the hospital in Memphis, Tennessee. Regimental Hospital Records show him admitted November 21, 1863 with "Fever" and returned for duty on November 29, 1863. He mustered out at Indianaola, Texas on February 2, 1864. He was again admitted to the hospital on May 25, 1864 with release from the hospital on May 27, 1864. He re enlisted giving his residence as Dover Hill, Martin County, Indiana as Pvt in Co K 49th Reg. IN Inf. and was 28 years old. His signature was an "X" mark on February 3, 1864. Records show that on July 29, 1865 he received furlough for 15 days returning on August 17, 1865. He mustered out September 13, 1865 at Louisville, Jefferson County, KY General Pension Files 1862-1934 "National Archives Publicaton T288, Roll 127" Wife Lucy A. Dover application for pension 12/18/1879. Number 330665, Certificate Number 234114. Widow Appllication for Pension 7/29/1912 Number 988908. Widow Certificate # 749177. JOSEPH "JOE" DOVER (Bio. Sketch page 217 - "History of Greene County, Indiana 1885-1989) " Joseph "Joe" Dover was born May 9, 1835 in Greene County, Indiana. He died June 14, 1912 at Koleen, Indiana. He had cancer of the throat. He and his wife ,Lucy are buried at the Walnut Grove Cemetery, eight miles east of Bloomfield, Indiana. He was the son of Joshua and Nancy McFarland Dover. They lived on Beech Creek in Center Township. Joe had seven sisters and six or more brothers, Greenbury, Asbury, Joshua, Park H., and Wesley. Joe was a farmer. Joshua Dover died between 1840-1842. Nancy then married Martin Holtsclaw on April 6, 1842 in Greene County. Martin was in the War of 1812 in Kentucky. He is buried in Ridgeport Cemetery at Ridgeport, Indiana. Nancy was living with her son Joshua in 1870. Joe first married Rhoda Ann Dover on July 15, 1854. They had a daughter, Nancy Ann. Rhoda died and her parents, James and Elender "Sanderson" Dover raised Nancy Ann. Joe's second wife was Mary Jane McCoy Stephens, widow of Luther Stephens. Mary had five children of her own when she married Joe. Mary Jane died and she and Rhoda Ann are buried 3/4 mile from Switz City in a cemetery, Crote or Bullerman. Joe went to service on November 21, 1861. He joined for duty on October 19, 1861 under Captain Keck's Company, 49th Regiment Indiana Infantry, and served for three years. He re enlisted at Indianola, Texas on February 3, 1864 under James Leeper, Company A, 64th Indiana Volunteers. Joe and Mary Jane Stephens Dover had Thomas Wesley, and Eli who died when a young man and Amanda Alice. Thomas "Tom" married Hattie Quintilla Brandon on April 9, 1887. Children were Paris Asberry, Minnie Lenore, Augusta Alice, George Nelson, Chauncey Wesley, Esper Joseph, Leslie Elijah, Cordia, Elmo Thomas, and Mary. Amanda Alice "Mandy" married David Alvadore"Pete" Howell, both of Koleen, Indiana on December 27, 1893 in Greene County, Indiana. They had two children, Goldia Alina and Clyde Orvall Howell. Joe's third wife was Lucy Ann Holder, daughter of Benjamin and Susannah Holder. They lived on Indian Creek near Camp Olivet in Jackson Township in Greene County. Joe and Lucy were married May 7, 1883 in Greene County. They lived near Koleen, Indiana. Joe was a farmer. He was in Company K, 49th Infantry Volunteers. The neighbors in Koleen called him "Uncle Joe". He lived near the Mays Spring south of Koleen for a while after he and Lucy were married. They had one child, Sara Clemantine "Clema" Dover, born July 30, 1885. At Koleen, Indiana.

Looking through IGI I found a Thomas Dover/Mary Robinson and children: Mary Dover 1782 William Dover 1784 d. 6 Apr 1861 Ruth Dover 1786 Nanny Dover 1793 All the kids were born in England. If this looks familiar, I copied the names and addresses of two submitters who live in CA and ID. Let me know if you are interested. Sharon S

>From Terry's post about the 1870 Mortality Schedules regarding Lafayette County, Mississippi: 1870 M593- Page 458 28-33 J. P. Dover 32 1838 AL E. 39 1831 MS Wm. 08 1862 MS Nancy? 04 1866 MS Very light mircrofilm and difficult to read 1870 Mortality Schedule Leroy Dover, age 2, b. MS, died 7-1870, Lafayette Co. MS of brain dis. The only DOVER I can find in Alabama in 1850 that was born about 1838 is the John Dover born 1838 GA that was living with Lewis & Martha HARDIN DALRYMPLE in 1850 Shelby County. Looks like both Lewis and Martha were born in western South Carolina ... probably Laurens per her pension application for Lewis.

I was wrong on Kellys Ferry being in Hamilton Co., Tenn. It shows to be in Marion, Co. Tenn., just outside of Chattanooga, which is in Hamilton Co.. Wonder if this has any clues??It is also very close to the burial site from last nights post. Aetna Mt. shows to be in both Hamilton and Marion Co. I also found a really good map site that some of you might be interested in. It is: http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html Sharon Dover Romanek ============================================== SHARE'D Got Any Dover You Haven't Posted, Please Do Researching: Kirksey, Dover, Shrader, Tyner,McNabb romanek@cybertrails.com Sept 30-May 10 romanek@salisbury.net June 1-Sept 30 sromanek@hotmail.com Year Round BACK UP ONLY

>From the post last night I thought I would fill in one more blank. Aunt Martha(Martha E. Dover McNabb) died November 1981. I am unsure where she died, but think probably Chattanooga. Her death benefit was paid to a Chattanooga location. Sharon Dover Romanek ============================================== SHARE'D Got Any Dover You Haven't Posted, Please Do Researching: Kirksey, Dover, Shrader, Tyner,McNabb romanek@cybertrails.com Sept 30-May 10 romanek@salisbury.net June 1-Sept 30 sromanek@hotmail.com Year Round BACK UP ONLY

Hi everyone! This Dever/Dover thing has been on mind. As I have stated, I have heard it pronounced Dever, but only by one cousin. Other than that I have always thought is was pronounced as DOE-VER. But, I have to laugh, We have all heard (at least I think:) Tomato and Tom-ot-toe. Aunt and Ant, and so on. I can even say, that it depended on rather or not my Grandmother, had a chew of tobacco in her mouth, how things sounded different. Against all odds, that our ancestors could spell, speak perfect English, that the census takers, county clerks and so on, could do the same. Add in the variety of accents across the world, little less the USA. The trancribers, and old writing. ( a lot of odds aye) I am sure some of our Dovers have showed up under different spellings. Which ones at what times, is going to be our head ache. (darn it:) Ok, now I am going to go way off course, and post something I found interesting. Its off topic, but once its read I think you will understand why I am sending it to the list Read this sentence: FINISHED FILES ARE THE RESULT OF YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC STUDY COMBINED WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF YEARS. Now count aloud the F's in that sentence. Count them ONLY ONCE: DO NOT go back and count them again. See below... Answer below: ANSWER: There are six F's in the sentence. One of average intelligence finds three of them. If you spotted four, you're above average. If you got five, you can turn your nose at most anybody. If you caught six, you are a genius. There is no catch. Many people forget the "OF"'s. The human brain tends to see them as V's and not F's. Pretty weird, huh? D--OV--ER Ok, you can all laugh at me now:) But the above, has crossed my mind. If this is true. -- Happy Hunting:) Patricia Manson Dover Listmanager Alabama Listmanager ICQ # 35834412--IM pvmtrish http://www.myfreeoffice.com/treeshaker/

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Someone brought up copying things to the list that was shared info......As I understand from "Searching for Cyber-Roots" by Laurie And Steve Bonner, [pg.87] it is "more than a case of common courtesy, it's the law." regarding the use of material by another. That is to say, if you share info that is not your own, where it is obtained [author, book/source, pg nos., etc.] is to be included as part of the reference, as if it was included in a paper or such. If you are using it as part of your web page, then you must obtain permission... >From Oxford's "A Dictionary of ENGLISH SURNAMES"- pg. 140 DOVER, Theoloneus de DOURE 1086 DB[ lived in Derbyshire- the year 1086] : John de DOVER 1223-4FFK[ Feet of Fines- Kent- years 1223 and 1224 ] : Walter DOUER 1332 IpmW. [calander of inquisitiones post mortem in progress - Wiltshire in year 1332 ] from Dover [Kent} This is especially interesting, considering the John George Douer who came to Charles Town on the "Ann"- in the mid 1700's with 100 acres on the Broad river, isn't it?

Hi all - I'm looking for anyone who might be related to the Dovers of Cherokee County TX. For years, my aunt lived next door to a Dover family. We didn't know we were related. If anyone has any knowledge about them, please contact me. By the way, their son, Wilber, had beautiful blue eyes. Diane Bingham

For those on the list, from Susan Campbell Youngblood Dover, I discovered an interesting request in the SC Mag. for Ancest. Research....... "Mr. D.K. Youngblood (2726 Sunset Dr. Charlotte, NC 28209) seeks info on his gg grandfather, Samuel Youngblood, born ca. 1788 in Abbeville County, SC, died 3-20-1873 in Pickens Co. SC. Who were his parents and siblings? Was married to gg grandmother Gracie Ann MARTIN, ca 1844, but had been married earlier, to whom? and were there children from this marriage?"

Continued...... December 1870 John Dover [would be jr.] Daniel Dover G.P. Dover - D Pery Dover Bery R. Dover Martin Dover [following the list of male members is a ref. on pg.. 109 , about James Green and Alfred Gardner being in Arkansas without letters of dismission[sic] Dorinda Dover Nancy Dover Amand J.Dover Martha R. Ettress - EX [married a Mr. Dover] Tariss Dover [married Mr. Gibbons] Mary Dover [mar. a Mr. Hardin] Margeret A. Green [mar. a Mr. Hardin] Martha Dover - EX Salie Bird [Married a Mr. Hardin] Norah Dover "In August 1878, Sister Permelia Manning was charged with marrying Manning who had a living wife. Sisters Margeret Williams and MarthyDover were then charged with the same offense, as was Sister Elizabeth Pain. another sister Marthy Dover. John Weaver and wife Sarah B. Weaver. In October, 1878. all were excommunicated." {The "D's " could mean death or dismissal. Unless spelled out, it is unclear]

Stephen R. Dover, age 18, b. GA, died 3-1850, Tallapoosa Co. AL of pneumonia Albert F. Dover, age 4, b. GA, died 3-1860, Gwinnett Co., GA of fever. William Dover, age 37, b. GA, farmer, died 1-1860, Gwinnett Co., GA of pheretts. Mary C. Dover, age 9, b. NC, died 2-1860, Gilmer Co., GA of scarlet fever. Matilda J. Dover, age 2, b. GA, died 9-1860, Polk Co., GA of unknown causes. Leroy Dover, age 2, b. MS, died 7-1870, Lafayette Co. MS of brain dis.

SSukiennik@aol.com wrote: > > > > Another interesting query to the list members would be just how the members pronounce DOVER. I have always heard it as Doe' ver like doe the deer. Any other variations? Sharon: My family pronounces the name just like you do but I had a teacher in high school who insisted on pronouncing my name as DOVE-R, rhyming with COVER. Needless to say, I didn't care much for that teacher! Barbara

The March April 1999 issue of Everton's Genealogical Helper has a query in the Roots Cellar for: John Dover in Jefferson Co., MO or KY or in VA (no dates) John R. Dover Blue Mill Road Morristown, NJ 07960 Kinda sounds like John & Jemima STEVENS DOVER?

Well everyone, I got the best surprise tonight. I had been searching for some information on Grandpa's( John Frank Dover) sister Martha Dover Mcabb. I had joined the McNabb list, because she married a McNabb. I thought I would not come up with anything. BUT I DID!!! One of the list members got in touch with one of their daughters who told them all of this below. The Lily Jo F_____ is the lady who named me in 1954. She was Lily Jo Filer. Ain't this great. That's "Southern" for isn't. :-) Sharon Dover Romanek =============== Fred R. McNabb s/o George and Vina Houts McNabb, born 6/20/1897, Married Martha E. Dover Oct 3, 1915, d/o Henry Dover and America Shrader, died April 2, 1983. Children: 1. Edna McNabb. Born in Alabama, is 82 years old, married Willis Richie. 2. Herron Clifford McNabb, born in Hamilton County, 23 May 1918, Died 5 March 1923. 3. Eastly McNabb, born in Hamilton County, married Lily Jo F______. Is about 77 years old. 4. Ray Alfred McNabb, born at Kelly's Ferry, Hamilton County, married Grace McDonald. Don't know age. Edna said their house burned after their mother died, and all their records were lost. 5. Freddie McNabb (deceased), Born at Kelly's Ferry, married Pat (Carolyn) Sewell. 6. Hoyt McNabb, 63 years of age, married Mildred Wilson. In searching for one of Crandel's uncle's grave, we went to the cemetery on Aetna Mountain where George and Vina Houts McNabb are buried. George was born in 1868, died 1941. Vina Houts McNabb was born 1879, died 1944. I hope this information is what your friend needs. If I can help again, let me know. Jack I don't know these people, but they were very nice to share this info. I just lucked up on a person who knew them. ============================================== SHARE'D Got Any Dover You Haven't Posted, Please Do Researching: Kirksey, Dover, Shrader, Tyner,McNabb romanek@cybertrails.com Sept 30-May 10 romanek@salisbury.net June 1-Sept 30 sromanek@hotmail.com Year Round BACK UP ONLY

SSukiennik@aol.com wrote: > Another interesting query to the list members would be just how the members pronounce DOVER. I have always heard it as Doe' ver like doe the deer. Any other variations? Regional accents and locations must make a big difference in the pronounciation, but the Cherokee CO TX Dovers as well as the others in TX that I've communicated with pronounce it just as Sharon says....DOE ver with the accent' on the first syllable. bj

Thank you "Osborns!" I have the same wish. However, none of my Williams match your Williams. I do have a HORACE DOVER, s/o ANDREW, s/o WILLIAM ALFRED, s/o HENRY STANFORD, s/o ANDERSON (my line), s/o FRANCIS J. Maybe some of the list can help us. Lou Osborns wrote: > > My family is in Utah. My father was William Bryant Dover born in 1909. > His father was Horace Alvin Dover who's father was William Henry Dover born > 1836 in Littleworth, Oxford, England. You can see that my family was still > in England during the time that all these Dovers they are talking about > were already here in America. When my ansectors came to America they came > directly to Utah because of their conversion to the Mormon religion. I > have just noticed many Williams in the postings. Wish we would have a > common relative and could help each other out. > > ---------- > > From: Lou Morton Ellis <LEllis@ix.netcom.com> > > To: DOVER-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [DOVER-L] Dover stories > > Date: Sunday, April 11, 1999 3:23 PM > > > > Dear Gerry, Which William Dover was your father? I have 9 William > Dovers and > > not much on any of them. Thanks, Lou Morton Ellis > > > > Osborns wrote: > > > > > > Even though my Dovers were still in England during the times that all > of > > > you are researching, I still enjoy reading much of what you are > sending, > > > especially the last couple of days as I have been reading about > dialogues > > > from different parts of the country and family histories and stories. > I > > > want to thank all of you for these. I was especially interested in the > > > sing-alongs because I well remember how I loved it when my uncle who > played > > > the banjo would come home and all the aunts and uncles and any cousins > who > > > wanted to would get together at my grandma's house and have a big > > > sing-along. They had nice voices and did a lot of harmonizing! At one > > > such gathering they taped the singing and it is still one of my > favorite > > > tapes to listen too -- not only because it brings back such happy > memories > > > but also because most of them are gone now, including my father who's > name > > > was William Dover. A good old family name I am discovering. > > > Thanks! > > > Gerry Dover Osborn > > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > > > Dover Family Geneology Forum > > > http://www.genforum.com/dover/ > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Dover > > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > > The Dover mailing list, home page. > > A list of links to all the Dover GenConnect boards and other links > > http://pages.cthome.net/familytree/ > >