This is a test to see if this message gets scrambled as well. I am having some sort of problem that is scrambling my messages for some reason. I just did a virus scan so do not think it is that. Forgive the mess you all are getting. It is not intentional. Sharon Dover Romanek Primary e-mail: [email protected] Secondary e-mail: [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003... Do you know where your g-g-great grandparents are? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.]

Arkansas marriages DOVER, W. A.   Spouse: SHULTS, MOLLIE Marriage Date: 27 Nov 1887   County: Polk State: AR NOTE:  William Allen Dover s/o Anderson Mansel Dover md # 1 Mary Shults 1920 Polk County, Arkansas Census T625-74 Cove Township, Hatfield PO, ED No. 103, January 6, 1920 Page 4A #89/93 William A. Dover Head M W 57 M AL GA GA Mollie             Wife M W 46 M AR MS MS Douglas O.       Son M W 24 S AR AL AR McNeal             Son M W 22 S AR AL AR Joy            & nbsp; Dau F W 06 S AR AL AR Hester Dover Mother F W 78 W GA SC SC This William Allen Dover would be the s/o Anderson Mansell Dover md Hester Smart.  Sharon, not sure from my notes here if Mary & Mollie Shults are the same person or not.  Would need to do more more looking on this one to be sure. SS

Does anyone know who this person is or where they belong in the Dover family? Source: 1920 Census, Georgia, Telfair County, McRae District, 340 G.M. (Dunno What G.M. means) Enumeration District 110 Page 19B Image 38 Enumeration Date: 1-21-22 -1920 House: 269 Family: 383 Name Rel Sex Race Age MtlStatus POB FPOB MPOB Occupation Dover, William S. Head M W 27 Md. AL AL AL Farmer-General Farm Carrie Wife F W 26 Md. AL AL AL Living next to Harrell & Oneal families. Sharon Dover Romanek Primary e-mail: [email protected] Secondary e-mail: [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003... Do you know where your g-g-great grandparents are? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.]

Do I have something mixed up on this family? I show two wives for William Allen Dover. I have one as Mollie Moore, and another as Mary "Mollie" Shults. Are they one and the same person? Does anyone know for sure? Also I show one son Lester and have him listed as the son of William and Mollie Shults. Is that correct? Anyone know who Donphlos? really is? The name is hard to read on the census. I would suspect since there are others in the family maybe Dolphus. Also does anyone know if he married etc? It is not possible to read his marital status on this census. There is an ink blob where the entry is. Also if there are two wives, which sons go with which wife? Thanks for the help. Source: 1920 Census, Polk County, Arkansas Cove Twsp Page 4B Image 8 Enumeration Date: 1-8-1920 House: 89 Family: 93 Name Rel Sex Race Age Mtl Status POB FPOB MPOB Occupation Dover, William A. Head M W 57 Md. AL GA GA Farmer Mollie Wife F W 46 Md. AR MS MS Donflos? O. Son M W 24 ? AR AL AR Salesman-Grocery Store McNeal Son M W 22 S AR AL AR Laborer-Driving Truck Joy Dau F W 6 S AR AL AR Dover, Henster(SIC) Mother F W 78 Wd. GA SC SC Sharon Dover Romanek Primary e-mail: [email protected] Secondary e-mail: [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003... Do you know where your g-g-great grandparents are? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.]

Source: Port Arthur News, Port Arthur Texas, 9-9-1923 Dovers Inc., New Men's Store Will Open Here Dovers,Inc, new men's store,will opened to the public sometime this month at 420 Procter St. in the store room formerly occupied by Roos and Forst. The store being completely remodeled and fitted out with new fixtures. The firm is composed of S.P. Dover, president, a merchant of Houston: H.T. Lefkovits, vice president and store manager in Houston for Mr. Dover for 12 years; J. D. Kassel, secretary-treasurer, who comes from Shreveport, La. where he was engaged in the clothing business. Lefkovitz and Kassell will have direct charge of the store here. The store will carry standard brands of clothing and furnishings. Sharon Dover Romanek e-mail: PRIMARY [email protected] [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover,Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, DeMers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003 ... Do you know where your G-G-Grandparents are? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.]

Anybody heard this before??? I'm amazed! Source: Port Arthur News, Port Arthur Texas Wednesday April 25, 1923 Man Admits Killing But Witnesses Say Woman Fired Shot Chattanooga, Tenn. April 25----Mrs. Elizabeth Windham and W.A. Dover, were placed on trial here Wednesday for the killing of Harry Sutton, member of a prominent family, a month ago, as a result of an alleged love triangle. Witnesses testified that they had been near the scene of the incident and that the shot was fired by a woman, not-withstanding the admission of Dover that he had fired the fatal shot in self-defense. WHEW!!!! I can't help but think this may be my Grand uncle due to the time period. Never heard this one before. Can't get my file to open right now to look and see. There are several possibles in the area though. Sharon Dover Romanek e-mail: PRIMARY [email protected] [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover,Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, DeMers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003 ... Do you know where your G-G-Grandparents are? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.]

Source: The Kingsport Times Newspaper, 11-23-1923 Delegates Are Named By Peay Nashville, Tennessee-100 Tennessee delegates , named by Governor Peay, to attend the sixteenth annual convention of The Southern Commercial Congress, to be held at Richmond, Va. Dec. 2-3 are as follows: ............W.C. Howell, Dover, S.C., Lewis Dover, J.F. Brown, Gallatin............. Gallatin is the area Lewis and J.F. were to have come from. This article listed the men's names and then where they were from. Sharon Dover Romanek e-mail: PRIMARY [email protected] [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover,Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, DeMers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003 ... Do you know where your G-G-Grandparents are? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.]

There is very little here but maybe it will provide some clue on something. Source: The Kingsport Times Newspaper, 9-14-1923 Annual Encampment of Spanish War Victims Meets September 14-16 The Associated Press Chattanooga, Tennessee ...........George Dover, Chairman of the committee on reservations states he expected at least 15,000 visitors for the encampment,.............. There is not much else here other than stuff about were people came from for the encampment. I take it from what I see that George may have been a resident of the area and in charge of setting up the encampment. Sharon Dover Romanek e-mail: PRIMARY [email protected] [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover,Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, DeMers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003 ... Do you know where your G-G-Grandparents are? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.]

In a message dated 2/5/2004 11:36:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Has anyone had "any" problem opening the DNA Results at the web page I > setup? I haven't had any problems opening. But when I first opened it the three guys data in David's line didn't open. I closed and opened again and it was fine. Rosemary

In case anyone on the list would like to know the version 6.0 worked very well once I downloaded it and installed it. Sharon Dover Romanek Primary e-mail: [email protected] Secondary e-mail: [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003... Do you know where your g-g-great grandparents are? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Dover To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:00 PM Subject: RE: [Dover] DNA Web Link Sounds like that an older version is the problem. For those of you with older versions, from Windows Start Control Panel Add or Remove Select Adobe Reader or Acrobat (they changed names) Remove Restart Windows Download and install from the link below. Sorry for any inconvenience. -----Original Message----- From: sromanek [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dover] DNA Web Link DD, I have Acrobat 5.0 and it works just fine for me. I checked each page just to be sure. If anyone needs a newer version of Adobe it is a free download by the way. The link to the site for that is: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/alternate.html#601uxall Now, the older version of Acrobat DID give me trouble. I could not open the page at all. That was a week or so ago when I e-mailed you about it. I downloaded a newer version of the reader after I un-installed the old one and everything worked fine. I am downloading the 6.0 version now and will check it out too and let you know how that works. Take Care, Sharon Dover Romanek Primary e-mail: [email protected] Secondary e-mail: [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003... Do you know where your g-g-great grandparents are? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Dover To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: [Dover] DNA Web Link Has anyone had "any" problem opening the DNA Results at the web page I setup? I have had several messages recently that others cannot open the link. Others have no problem at all. I am using a current version of Adobe PDF and not sure if any older versions that come out on every computer have any conflict with a newer version. This is supposed to be a universal format that any computer can access. These results and everybody's participation are too important to us to have them be inaccessible. Please let me know. I'll follow through with Adobe. There's still an alternate location if the offer is still open. ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Dover Genforum http://genforum.genealogy.com/dover/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.] ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Dover list home page http://pages.cthome.net/familytree/ ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== If you need to contact the Listmanager, please send your message to, Patricia at [email protected] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.]

I am having a hard time opening it. Shirley Giddings ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Dover" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:35 PM Subject: [Dover] DNA Web Link > Has anyone had "any" problem opening the DNA Results at the web page I > setup? I have had several messages recently that others cannot open the > link. Others have no problem at all. I am using a current version of Adobe > PDF and not sure if any older versions that come out on every computer have > any conflict with a newer version. This is supposed to be a universal format > that any computer can access. > > These results and everybody's participation are too important to us to have > them be inaccessible. Please let me know. I'll follow through with Adobe. > There's still an alternate location if the offer is still open. > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Dover Genforum > http://genforum.genealogy.com/dover/ > >

DD, I have Acrobat 5.0 and it works just fine for me. I checked each page just to be sure. If anyone needs a newer version of Adobe it is a free download by the way. The link to the site for that is: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/alternate.html#601uxall Now, the older version of Acrobat DID give me trouble. I could not open the page at all. That was a week or so ago when I e-mailed you about it. I downloaded a newer version of the reader after I un-installed the old one and everything worked fine. I am downloading the 6.0 version now and will check it out too and let you know how that works. Take Care, Sharon Dover Romanek Primary e-mail: [email protected] Secondary e-mail: [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003... Do you know where your g-g-great grandparents are? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Dover To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: [Dover] DNA Web Link Has anyone had "any" problem opening the DNA Results at the web page I setup? I have had several messages recently that others cannot open the link. Others have no problem at all. I am using a current version of Adobe PDF and not sure if any older versions that come out on every computer have any conflict with a newer version. This is supposed to be a universal format that any computer can access. These results and everybody's participation are too important to us to have them be inaccessible. Please let me know. I'll follow through with Adobe. There's still an alternate location if the offer is still open. ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Dover Genforum http://genforum.genealogy.com/dover/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.]

Dennis, The day you posted the latest results, I could open it early afternoon. Later on after you added the information on understanding the markers, I couldn't open it. I'm using Reader #5.1 The top half of the page never opens. Dennis Dover wrote: > Has anyone had "any" problem opening the DNA Results at the web page I > setup? I have had several messages recently that others cannot open the > link. Others have no problem at all. I am using a current version of Adobe > PDF and not sure if any older versions that come out on every computer have > any conflict with a newer version. This is supposed to be a universal format > that any computer can access. > > These results and everybody's participation are too important to us to have > them be inaccessible. Please let me know. I'll follow through with Adobe. > There's still an alternate location if the offer is still open. > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Dover Genforum > http://genforum.genealogy.com/dover/

Sounds like that an older version is the problem. For those of you with older versions, from Windows Start Control Panel Add or Remove Select Adobe Reader or Acrobat (they changed names) Remove Restart Windows Download and install from the link below. Sorry for any inconvenience. -----Original Message----- From: sromanek [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Dover] DNA Web Link DD, I have Acrobat 5.0 and it works just fine for me. I checked each page just to be sure. If anyone needs a newer version of Adobe it is a free download by the way. The link to the site for that is: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/alternate.html#601uxall Now, the older version of Acrobat DID give me trouble. I could not open the page at all. That was a week or so ago when I e-mailed you about it. I downloaded a newer version of the reader after I un-installed the old one and everything worked fine. I am downloading the 6.0 version now and will check it out too and let you know how that works. Take Care, Sharon Dover Romanek Primary e-mail: [email protected] Secondary e-mail: [email protected] Researching: Romanek, Gucwa, Dover, Shrader, Tyner, Johnston, Williams, Edge, Smith, Kirksey, Demers, Murphy, Allen It's 2003... Do you know where your g-g-great grandparents are? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Dover To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: [Dover] DNA Web Link Has anyone had "any" problem opening the DNA Results at the web page I setup? I have had several messages recently that others cannot open the link. Others have no problem at all. I am using a current version of Adobe PDF and not sure if any older versions that come out on every computer have any conflict with a newer version. This is supposed to be a universal format that any computer can access. These results and everybody's participation are too important to us to have them be inaccessible. Please let me know. I'll follow through with Adobe. There's still an alternate location if the offer is still open. ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Dover Genforum http://genforum.genealogy.com/dover/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Internet Of Salisbury, Inc.] ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== Dover list home page http://pages.cthome.net/familytree/

Has anyone had "any" problem opening the DNA Results at the web page I setup? I have had several messages recently that others cannot open the link. Others have no problem at all. I am using a current version of Adobe PDF and not sure if any older versions that come out on every computer have any conflict with a newer version. This is supposed to be a universal format that any computer can access. These results and everybody's participation are too important to us to have them be inaccessible. Please let me know. I'll follow through with Adobe. There's still an alternate location if the offer is still open.

I didn't mean to hit this address when I sent out this email. Please just ignore it. >From: "Patricia White" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Dover] Prayers and Updates >Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 10:40:16 -0500 > >Hi Everyone, Just wanted to let you know that Cheryl's parents made it >safely home from Ohio. I haven't heard anything this morning about Joyce >Brisendine, but maybe no news is good news. > >I also want to share with you that I really need your prayers this morning. > I have always had a strong faith, although I may not have always lived as >if I did and I am in a wonderful Bible study that is called Believing God, >but this morning my faith is bruised and shaken. It is so hard to live in >a world where right is not always right and wrong is not always wrong. It >is hard to understand a judge who can ignore hard evidence of immoral >behavior and shrug it off just because she is a woman. Pray that I will be >strong in my faith and not let Satan have a victory out of this. > >Thanks to all of you and I hope that we will all share the needs that we >have in our lives. God does hear and answer our prayers. Maybe not in our >time-frame, but he always answers. > >In Beth Moore's book "Praying God's Word" she writes scripture prayers and >I would like to close with one. Lord, I want to be like the one to whom you >said, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." Flourish this >kind of faith in me, God! > >Love in Christ, Trish > >P.S. Send me your prayer requests, big or small. > >_________________________________________________________________ >What are the 5 hot job markets for 2004? Click here to find out. >http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Custom/MSN/CareerAdvice/WPI_WhereWillWeFindJobsIn2004.htm?siteid=CBMSN3006&sc_extcmp=JS_wi08_dec03_hotmail1 > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== >GENEALOGY WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION IS MYTHOLOGY > _________________________________________________________________ Let the new MSN Premium Internet Software make the most of your high-speed experience. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1

Hi Everyone, Just wanted to let you know that Cheryl's parents made it safely home from Ohio. I haven't heard anything this morning about Joyce Brisendine, but maybe no news is good news. I also want to share with you that I really need your prayers this morning. I have always had a strong faith, although I may not have always lived as if I did and I am in a wonderful Bible study that is called Believing God, but this morning my faith is bruised and shaken. It is so hard to live in a world where right is not always right and wrong is not always wrong. It is hard to understand a judge who can ignore hard evidence of immoral behavior and shrug it off just because she is a woman. Pray that I will be strong in my faith and not let Satan have a victory out of this. Thanks to all of you and I hope that we will all share the needs that we have in our lives. God does hear and answer our prayers. Maybe not in our time-frame, but he always answers. In Beth Moore's book "Praying God's Word" she writes scripture prayers and I would like to close with one. Lord, I want to be like the one to whom you said, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." Flourish this kind of faith in me, God! Love in Christ, Trish P.S. Send me your prayer requests, big or small. _________________________________________________________________ What are the 5 hot job markets for 2004? Click here to find out. http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Custom/MSN/CareerAdvice/WPI_WhereWillWeFindJobsIn2004.htm?siteid=CBMSN3006&sc_extcmp=JS_wi08_dec03_hotmail1

Hello list, I am back with AOL with the same address as [email protected] Old dawg just couldn't adapt to new tricks. David L. Dover

I replied to Michael over the phone, To the rest of the list, no, I do not see a connection at all at this point between these two Thomas Jefferson Dover. Patricia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Dover" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: RE: [Dover] Death Certificate for James Madison Dover > Patricia and Larry would have the best reply. Larry's DNA says no. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Angela & Jeremy Dover [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Dover] Death Certificate for James Madison Dover > > Michael, > > Answer is that I don't know. There has been some conjecture that they > are related, but the DNA results seem to disprove it, unless someone > along the line was adopted. Also, while I strongly believe that I am > related to James Madison Dover, I'm not SURE. Dennis might have a better > comment? > > Jeremy > > michael parker wrote: > > >Hey Jeremy, > > Is James Madison Dover any kin to Thomas Jefferson Dover? I > believe they may have been born around the same time. > > Thanks, > > Michael A. Parker > > > >Angela & Jeremy Dover <[email protected]> wrote: > >I ordered a death certificate from the state of California for James M. > >Dover, who I believe is the brother of my great-great grandfather Henry > >Powell Dover. Remember that from census records, my James M. Dover was > >born in April around 1836, and appeared in the 1910 census living in > >Santa Cruz. Here is the information on the death certificate: > > > >James Madison Dover > >b. April 22, 1836, Tennessee > >d. January 25, 1913, Santa Cruz > >Informant: H.J. Dover (probably Henry James, his son) > > > >But here's the best part: > >Father: Thompson Dover > >Mother: Elizabeth Pebern (the last name is a bit tough to read) > > > >This gives some good evidence that Dennis's conjecture is correct, and > >that the Thompson Dover in the 1840 census in Arkansas is the father of > >the Dovers living with the Gamblins in Ripley Co., MO. I just wish I > >could find a descendant of James to tie them to me through the DNA. > > > >Even though I seem to be of a different line, I thought it might be nice > >to know. > > > >Jeremy > > > > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > >Dover resources at Rootsweb > >http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/d/o/DOVER/ > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > > > > > >==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > >Genconnect board > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.dover > > > > > > > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Dover resources at Rootsweb > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/d/o/DOVER/ > > > > > ==== DOVER Mailing List ==== > Dover Genforum > http://genforum.genealogy.com/dover/

You may have noticed my name at the bottom of the 37 marker list. Unfortunately at present I have very little time to do any research. The oldest Dover ancestor of whom I am sure at present is William Dover who was born in 1854 in Cumbria. The 1881 census says that his place of birth was Keswick, the registers seem to indicate that it may have been the nearby town of Cockermouth. Anyway it may help some of you to link to my side of the family. Paul Dover Nottingham UK