Hi, My grandfather, Edward Gill, and his family are shown on the 1911 census as living at 1 Hope Square, Weymouth. As a child in the 1950s I remember there just being a small, triangular piece of land where number 1 Hope Square would have been. My father told me that one of his sister's accidentally burned down the house by knocking over a lighted candle in her bedroom. However I think this story is probably just family legend! Would anyone on the list with an interest in local history know what actually did happen to 1 Hope Square ? Many thanks, Sue Irvine

I realize the following question isnt Dorset, but if SKS could reply off list The only information I have regarding a paternal grandparent origins is her father and mother were in London, and she was born there. Is there a way to access census records for 1851 & 1861 for London? Search parish records? Is London associated with any particular county? Thank you Don Chinnery Sun City Center FL USA

I just viewed the detailed Ordnance survey map for Hope Square/Cove Street and it does show number 2 and 3 Hope Square to the left of the Red Lion. Number one would be that small triangle. The width of the harbor end of the triangle is about the same width as house number 2. If there were a house on that plot, then Cove street would have a slightly different line. In fact, it does seem that the street, which is straight from the harbor to 5 Cove Street jogs slightly to the left. If it didn't, then there is enough room for 1 Hope Square. John Hebley -----Original Message----- From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Irvine Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:08 AM To: dorset@rootsweb.com Subject: [DOR] Hope Square Hi, My grandfather, Edward Gill, and his family are shown on the 1911 census as living at 1 Hope Square, Weymouth. As a child in the 1950s I remember there just being a small, triangular piece of land where number 1 Hope Square would have been. My father told me that one of his sister's accidentally burned down the house by knocking over a lighted candle in her bedroom. However I think this story is probably just family legend! Would anyone on the list with an interest in local history know what actually did happen to 1 Hope Square ? Many thanks, Sue Irvine *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interesting location. My great granduncle, Joseph Jacob Hebley lived in Cove Street about that time. The small triangle you are referring to is in fact pretty much in Cove street next to the Red Lion pub. Number 3 Hope Square is a bistro although the number on the door is 2 Hope Square. You can see what I mean in this photo. www.weymouth-pictures.co.uk/dor/wey/har/pic_hsq12.htm One note on this web site www.weymouth-dorset.co.uk/hope.html indicates that the numbers in Hope Street were reversed at some time. Don't know what date that may have happened, but that could cause problems. Good hunting John Hebley -----Original Message----- From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Irvine Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:08 AM To: dorset@rootsweb.com Subject: [DOR] Hope Square Hi, My grandfather, Edward Gill, and his family are shown on the 1911 census as living at 1 Hope Square, Weymouth. As a child in the 1950s I remember there just being a small, triangular piece of land where number 1 Hope Square would have been. My father told me that one of his sister's accidentally burned down the house by knocking over a lighted candle in her bedroom. However I think this story is probably just family legend! Would anyone on the list with an interest in local history know what actually did happen to 1 Hope Square ? Many thanks, Sue Irvine *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I have some Lucas family born in East Lulworth, Dorset. I will get back to you tomorrow, but that may be your family. Flo -----Original Message----- From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lyn Mealey Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:16 AM To: DORSET@rootsweb.com Subject: [DOR] Joseph LUCAS born about 1802 Corfe Castle Dorset Hi Everyone This is my first posting to this list.. My ggg grandfather, Joseph Lucas on census returns shows his place of birth (about 1802) as Corfe Castle Dorset. The only Joseph Lucas I can find on IGI born about this time in Dorset is Joseph Legge Lucas baptised Alfpuddle Dorset in 1802. I don't think this is anywhere near Corfe Castle and I've not seen Legge in his name, so I'm assuming he's not mine. I wondered if anyone with access to Baptism records for Corfe Castle (or possibly Church Knowle) in Dorset could look to see whether there is a baptism of a Joseph Lucas. My Joseph Lucas married Mary Ann Bennett in 1832. Their children were Maria, Elizabeth, Sarah, William, John and Joseph Lucas. On a more general note, can anyone tell me how I can find out which parishes have records on IGI? Any assistance appreciated Lyn Sydney Aust *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Back on this list after a long break. I am looking for help to solve a problem that has occurred within my Family History. Two Sunderland Lustre ware Jugs have recently appeared in an auction in Dorset inscribed with the names of my Great, Great Grandparents Sarah Payne and Bernard Berry from Chideock, Dorset - both dated in the 19th century. I have so far been unable to find a link for the Payne or Berry family with the North East and am wondering if anybody on this list is researching the Payne family and can give me any information A visit to the "Dur-Sunderland List" came up with.... There was a considerable trade by Sunderland Potteries in the sale of "Gift China" to sailors plying between ports. Pottery was frequently made for presentation purposes, to commemorate birthdays, baptisms, weddings, etc. It could be that someone ordered the jugs as a gift for your great, great grandparents My only sailor (so far) in the Payne family was my great grandfather who was born after the date on the second jug, the rest all appear to be farmers and farm workers. Any help with this would be very much appreciated Wyn Burgess

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: karen1964 Surnames: Short, Harvey, Gerrard Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6229/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Trying to find the baptism and marriage deatils of GEORGE SHORT born c 1780 Bridport, Dorset. I know he married CHARLOTTE HARVEY on 2 nov 1802 in Bridport but i'm trying to find out if there was a name of his or hers father on marriage certificate that could help further my search of this family. Any help would be much appreciated as i can't trace this family any further back a this time. Karen Short Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Apologies if this has been published before. There are a number of Dorset Parish Transcripts (and other Counties) available on the Internet Archive site which listers may find useful. The following will find some of the Dorset documents: http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=the%20parish%20registers%20of%20Engl and%20and%20dorset to get the rest of the counties remove the '%20and%20dorset' from the above. There is also one for Stourpaine (not caught by the above): http://www.archive.org/stream/dorsetrecords06frye/dorsetrecords06frye_djvu.t xt the 'read online' versions can be a bit suspect as I think they are digitised from the text and have some character problems but there should also be available PDF versions which are the real images and can be downloaded. This is a vast repository and it may be worth playing around with the search to see if there is anything of interest. Bob Hills

After nearly 40 years of searching I think I may have finally identified my William MABEY who moved to Hampshire, married there in 1721 and left literally hundreds of descendants in the Southampton/New Forest/Romsey area. Because of the prolific number of Mabey's in Dorset, I have always considered that he was originally a Dorset man. One of William's children was named Barnard and William did spend some time in Swanage where another Barnard was married. I had always considered that this might have been a brother. I have now discovered that a Barnabas/Barnard Mabey was having children in Milton Abbas 1695-1707, one of whom was Barnabas and another Willes. Their other son Henry appears to be the only one who remained in the village. My questions are: has anyone done any research on this particular branch of the Mabey family? Does anyone have any information about the original village of Barnabas/Barnard Mabey - he wasnt born in Milton Abbas. Kind regards Sandra

Hi, I'm descended from Eli BRIDLE (born about 1812 in Halstock) and Matilda CLEAL (b. about 1816 in Chedington). They married in Fordington, Dorchester in 1846 and eventually ended up in Swindon, Wiltshire. Their son Emmanuel BRIDLE (born 1847 in Dorchester) married Sarah Elizabeth GALLAGHER (born about 1866, most probably in Yeovil) in 1888 in Swindon, Wiltshire. I believe that the BRIDLE / GALLAGHER line could be a gypsy / traveller family. If anyone has any links to these families or has any information on BRIDLE, GALLAGHER or CLEAL in these parts of Dorset, or even anything on gypsy / traveller families in Dorset please drop me a line. Regards Darren.

Hello, I am new to the list and am searching for the family of JOHN LAMBERT who according to the 1851 census for Compton in Sussex was born c 1786 at Langham Dorset. Any information on a Lambert family in that area would be most gratefully received. regards Anne Williams

Hello ever one. I am so very very new on here. I am looking for Redmond family. I don't know much as yet. But in time I know it will change. Kevin Gerald M Redmond born Wandsworth, 1919 had a sister Stella I M Redmond born 1923 in Dorset. There mother`s maiden name was Arnott and fathers name was Thomas Charles Redmond. Any one searching for the same line? Many thanks for your time Gina :-)

> Kevin Gerald M Redmond born Wandsworth, 1919 had a sister > Stella I M Redmond born 1923 in Dorset. > There mother`s maiden name was Arnott and fathers name was Thomas Charles > Redmond. Any one searching for the same line? > Many thanks for your time > Gina :-) Hello list, If any of you can help Gina, please bear in mind the "hundred-year rule". This takes the precautionary view that anyone born less than 100 years ago may still be living, and may not want their details put into the public domain. It is unlikely that the parents of the above will be living, but children and siblings may well be, so if in doubt, reply to Gina OFF-LIST at wienna@xtra.co.nz. Regards, Davy Cannon, List Admin, Dorset list.

Details sent off-list (due to possible privacy issues) Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Callaghan" <nigel.callaghan@ntlworld.com> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: [DOR] Terry Harvey > Cany anyone please help me, as I seem to have reached a total > stalemate in my searches. > > I'm trying to locate the father of a Terry HARVEY b.30 Oct 1940 at > Blandford - Vol 5a : Page 682 His mother was Elsie Jane Louise ELLIS. > > Can anyone please help? > > Nigel

Cany anyone please help me, as I seem to have reached a total stalemate in my searches. I'm trying to locate the father of a Terry HARVEY b.30 Oct 1940 at Blandford - Vol 5a : Page 682 His mother was Elsie Jane Louise ELLIS. Can anyone please help? Nigel

- Bonjour Vanessa, I am French but my ggmother Anna WEBBER came from Broadwinsor ( Dorset ) . I don't know much about her ascendancy (just 3 generations)... but her grandfather William WEBBER married (10.6.1767 Beaminster) a Jane SYMES ( b ca 1739 Child Hay Dorset -d 22.2.1821 Child hay Dorset). Would you , by any chance, know that Jane SYMES ? Which would be quite a luck for me. Bien amicalement de France. Jean-Marie

Details sent off-list to Christel. Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christel Muncaster" <christelhelen@yahoo.co.uk> To: "dorset mailing list" <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:16 PM Subject: [DOR] PELLY family of Nether Compton > Hello > > I am descended from Ann Pelly who married Benjamin Downton in Nether > Compton sometime around 1808. Can someone please pinpoint this marriage > for me? > > Also, I believe her to be the daughter of John & Abigail (one of her > daughters is named Abigail) but there doesn't seem to be a baptism; she > was born c1786. > > If I am right about the above, she has a niece also called Ann born 1808 > Nether Compton, to Samuel and Lydia; some Ancestry trees have this Ann > marrying a Matthew GARRETT. In the 1851 census he does indeed have a wife > called Ann born 1808 Nether Compton, but I cannot be sure it is this Ann > as again I cannot trace the marriage, which I think would have taken place > in Nether Compton about 1830. > > To make matters confusing there is another Ann Pelly born 1812 Nether > Compton, presumably another niece of my original Ann. Her parents are > George and Mary; again I haven't found George's baptism or marriage, but I > think George was probably another son of John and Abigail; the first of > his children (so far as I currently know) was born in Nether Compton in > 1808. > > Haven't tracked down John and Abigail's marriage either. > > If anyone can answer these (constantly multiplying) questions, or even one > of them, I will be very grateful. > > Christel

Hi Christel I don't have this verified at source, but I believe Ann Pelly and Benjamin Downton were married 20 April 1809 in Nether Compton. Unfortunately Nether Compton marriages are not online as far as I know, so would need to be verified in the PRs at Dorchester. I also concur that Ann's parents were John Pelly and Abigail Hillier but like you I have not been able to find their marriage. Benjamin Downton was the youngest son of my 6*Great Grandparents William Downton and Sarah Warren of Glanvilles Wootton. You can find the details I do have on my web site at www.vectisjon.com/familyhistory/ It would be good to have the Nether Compton marriage confirmed. Jon Baker Dorset OPC Co-ordinator www.opcdorset.org -----Original Message----- From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christel Muncaster Sent: 16 August 2010 20:16 To: dorset mailing list Subject: [DOR] PELLY family of Nether Compton Hello I am descended from Ann Pelly who married Benjamin Downton in Nether Compton sometime around 1808. Can someone please pinpoint this marriage for me? Also, I believe her to be the daughter of John & Abigail (one of her daughters is named Abigail) but there doesn't seem to be a baptism; she was born c1786. If I am right about the above, she has a niece also called Ann born 1808 Nether Compton, to Samuel and Lydia; some Ancestry trees have this Ann marrying a Matthew GARRETT. In the 1851 census he does indeed have a wife called Ann born 1808 Nether Compton, but I cannot be sure it is this Ann as again I cannot trace the marriage, which I think would have taken place in Nether Compton about 1830. To make matters confusing there is another Ann Pelly born 1812 Nether Compton, presumably another niece of my original Ann. Her parents are George and Mary; again I haven't found George's baptism or marriage, but I think George was probably another son of John and Abigail; the first of his children (so far as I currently know) was born in Nether Compton in 1808. Haven't tracked down John and Abigail's marriage either. If anyone can answer these (constantly multiplying) questions, or even one of them, I will be very grateful. Christel *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello I am descended from Ann Pelly who married Benjamin Downton in Nether Compton sometime around 1808. Can someone please pinpoint this marriage for me? Also, I believe her to be the daughter of John & Abigail (one of her daughters is named Abigail) but there doesn't seem to be a baptism; she was born c1786. If I am right about the above, she has a niece also called Ann born 1808 Nether Compton, to Samuel and Lydia; some Ancestry trees have this Ann marrying a Matthew GARRETT. In the 1851 census he does indeed have a wife called Ann born 1808 Nether Compton, but I cannot be sure it is this Ann as again I cannot trace the marriage, which I think would have taken place in Nether Compton about 1830. To make matters confusing there is another Ann Pelly born 1812 Nether Compton, presumably another niece of my original Ann. Her parents are George and Mary; again I haven't found George's baptism or marriage, but I think George was probably another son of John and Abigail; the first of his children (so far as I currently know) was born in Nether Compton in 1808. Haven't tracked down John and Abigail's marriage either. If anyone can answer these (constantly multiplying) questions, or even one of them, I will be very grateful. Christel

Dear Ellen, Not sure exactly what you have, but have found the following: There's quite a bit, so I suggest printing this off & getting a nice cup of tea / coffee, then sitting down to read it at your leisure... Samuel SYMES (a carpenter) - 1841 - On census with parents Matthew (a blacksmith) and Susanna & siblings Robert and Levi at Hursey Common, Burstock (Matthew SYMES married Susanna BARTLET (sic) on 6 April 1815 @ Broadwindsor.) Samuel SYMES married Mary Ann OSLER Mar 1/4 1842 Bridport District GRO Ref: 8 - 71 (Mary Ann was a widow - Mary Ann POWELL married Samuel OSTLER (sic) on 11 July 1829 @ Bridport. Mary Ann & Samuel OSTLER had 2 children: Elizabeth Powell OSTLER baptised 3 November 1829 @ Bridport - Elizabeth P OSTLER infant otp buried on 11 August 1830 @ St Mary, Bridport and Joseph Powell OSTLER baptised on 7 December 1831 @ Bridport (see below). Samuel & Mary are on 1851 census in Bridport (see below). 1861 - 1891 they are at Hursey Common, Burstock. Samuel SYMES retired farmer of Hursey Common House Burstock died on 3 May 1892 (aged 76) - death registered Jun 1/4 1892 Beaminster District GRO Ref: 5a - 214 1892 - Samuel SYMES - Will proven at Blandford on 5 Agust 1892, probate granted to John Greening, Assistant Overseer - Effects £178 / 5 shillings. 1893 - Mary Powel SYMES (aged 84) death registered Jun 1/4 1893 Beaminster GRO Ref: 5a - 231. Matthew SYMES - Birth registered Dec 1/4 1844 Bridport District GRO Ref: 8 - 32 1851 - Matthew (6) on census at West Street, Bridport with parents Samuel (a carpenter - 35) & Mary (41) and siblings Joseph (19 Apprentice Carpenter), John (8) & George (7 mths) - I have checked original page and Joseph is definitely noted as 19 and with his step-father's surname). 1861 - Matthew (16) on census at Hursey Common, Burstock with parents Samuel (Farmer - 44) & Mary A (50) & siblings John (18). George (10) and Mary Ann (9). Matthew SYMES married Anna Maria CREED Mar 1/4 1870 Beaminster District GRO Ref: 5a - 565. 1871 - Matthew (26) on census at Wall Farm, Stoke Abbot with wife Anna Maria (49), Uncle Benjamin GREEN (70) and Aunt Charlotte CREED (55) Anna Maria SYMES - death registered Mar 1/4 1875 Beaminster District (aged 50) GRO Ref: 5a - 348 Anna Maria SYMES (aged 50) was buried on 19 February 1875 @ Stoke Abbott - Place of residence noted in register - Swilliotts Farm (sic) Matthew SYMES married Caroline Elizabeth TALBOTT Sep 1/4 1875 Beaminster GRO Ref: 5a - 651 1881 - Matthew (35) is on census at Swelliotts Farm, Stoke Abbott with wife Caroline Eliza (28), children Caroline A (4) and Florence (1) & Aunt Charlotte GREEN (76) (Swelliotts Farm was next to Wall Farm) Caroline Adelaide SYMES - birth registered Mar 1/4 1877 Beaminster District GRO Ref: 5a - 386 - agrees with age on 1881 census. Florence Beatrice SYMES - birth registered Jun 1/4 1880 Beaminster District GRO Ref: 5a - 401 - agrees with age on 1881 census & your records. There aren't any Rose / Rosa SYMES reistered in 1883 / 1884 in Dorset There is a Rosa Fanny SYMES birth registered Sep 1/4 1881 Bridport District GRO Ref: 5a - 370 - This may be the Rose you know of (there doesn't appear to be a marriage or death registered for her). As Matthew & family were still in Stoke Abbott in 1881, but Rosa may have been born in Canada around 1884, then he must have emigrated between April 1881 and 1884. You may get more info by checking the Canadan immigration records for that period to see exactly when he arrived and who was with him. If you want to buy any birth / marriage / death certs see the GRO website @ www.gro.gov.uk - you will need the GRO references quoted above. If you wish to check them first (which would be a good idea) see FreeBMD @ www.freebmd.org.uk I hope some of the info is new to you and helps fill in the blanks on the English side. Regards Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Amabel Delaney" <elliedd@btinternet.com> To: <DORSET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 9:23 PM Subject: [DOR] matthew symes born 1844 >I am trying to trace more about my great great great uncle Matthew Symes he >was born at Birdport dorset the son of Samuel symes born 1817 and mary ann >powell. He went to canada in the 1880s and as far as i know he died there >in 917. He had two girls Caroline A Symes known as carrie born 1879 stoke >abbot and Florence Beatrice Symes born 9th March 1880 i think there were >more born in canada but they did not survive except perhaps a Rose Symes >born 1884. > > If any one can be of help please contact me thank you