Yes, I need to get someone to look at the copy held at The Rooms in NL unless Jean learns anything new from the museum historians. Vicki ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The two New Louen Poole Eng references I found on Google relate to the same marriage in Hermitage Bay, Newfoundland. I suspect that they are based on the same transcription so to settle this it will probably be necessary to look at the original document. There was a separate reference to 'New Louen, Conn' on the ellisisland.org website, but looking at the original Ship's Manifest proved that this was an error and it should have been New London, Conn. There is a 'New London Tavern' in Lagland Street, Poole but although this appears in the 1889 issue of Kelly's Directory, I cannot see any adjacent area which might be referred to 'New London' although it may have been a customary rather than official designation in a similar sense to 'The (Big) Smoke' for London. Intriguingly on the same marriage page (http://ngb.chebucto.org/Parish/herm-marr-01.shtml) there is an entry for a Richard Penny in 1877. He was born 'Newton, England'. Given the link between Dorset and Newfoundland this could be a contraction of Sturminster Newton, but as this is some distance from Poole I do not think that this is not connected with 'New Louen'. I look forward to hearing what suggestions come from your visit to Poole Museum. Russell
Thank you! I look forward to reading any info they can provide. The Henry Wellman that you find when "googling" New Louen is my ancestor. Unfortunately, I won't be able to check the records myself to see if, as I suspect, there was an error in the transcription, for quite some time. (I think the records are at The Rooms in St. John's, NL, and I'm in the US). Vicki Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 10:40:20 +0100 From: "Jean" <lilacthreads@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: [DOR] New Louen Poole Dorset To: "Rootsweb Dorset" <dorset@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <69D76A3121314E55867AFFCDF9989AE9@lilacpc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I keyed in New Louen Poole Eng on google and there are many references to that name, mostly people from newfoundland with ref to where their ancestors come from. Have never heard of the name, I donot think it is newtown, its in the borough of poole, am puzzled, is it a ship ? regards Jean in Poole. PS AM MEETING TOMORROW WITH POOLE HISTORIANS AT POOLE MUSEUMTO FIND MORE ABOUT "New Louen Poole Eng" Jean in POOLE
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: diamondlifestyle Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6237.6.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: just a thought Caroline, have you tried contacting the National Archives at Kew to get his Marines service record; that should give his birthplace. Or working backwards from Canada (I've found a deathdate of 26/07/1851), if you get his death certificate that may also say where he was born. Kate Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Thanks Russel, the reason for not thinking it is Newtown Poole [all one word], is that area in the 1800's would have been heathland, I lived near there in Alderney, 1934 our bungalow was new, we were surrounded on three sides by heathland & Romany Gipsys, Newtown is made up of 1920's Council Houses, new council housing estates and factories ect . Sturminster Newton a lovrly market town is some 25 miles away, there are many villages/towns in Dorset & Devon which end with newton, I am intrigued, my Squibb family can be traced back to the late 1600's , all born within a 8 mile radious of Wimborne, that includes Poole, Regards Jean The two New Louen Poole Eng references I found on Google relate to the same marriage in Hermitage Bay, Newfoundland. I suspect that they are based on the same transcription so to settle this it will probably be necessary to look at the original document. There was a separate reference to 'New Louen, Conn' on the ellisisland.org website, but looking at the original Ship's Manifest proved that this was an error and it should have been New London, Conn. There is a 'New London Tavern' in Lagland Street, Poole but although this appears in the 1889 issue of Kelly's Directory, I cannot see any adjacent area which might be referred to 'New London' although it may have been a customary rather than official designation in a similar sense to 'The (Big) Smoke' for London. Intriguingly on the same marriage page (http://ngb.chebucto.org/Parish/herm-marr-01.shtml) there is an entry for a Richard Penny in 1877. He was born 'Newton, England'. Given the link between Dorset and Newfoundland this could be a contraction of Sturminster Newton, but as this is some distance from Poole I do not think that this is not connected with 'New Louen'. I look forward to hearing what suggestions come from your visit to Poole Museum. Russell When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: diamondlifestyle Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6237.6.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Caroline, a quick google shows how desperate you are to find an answer to this! The possibility that he was born in Yorks seems to come from his record in the IGI, this was posted by Margaret Henderson, 315, 354 Woodvale Road, East Edmonton, Alberta, T6L 5E9, you may have to resort to snail mail and contact her to see where she got her record from! I've looked through all my Dorset, London and Yorks records but can't find anything all all for him. Your only other option I can find is a website http://vimagination.zapto.org/FH/list.php which is the family tree of Jaki Woolnough, he is mentioned there, although she has no record of his birthplace or parents either from what I can see, but it might be worth contacting her and pooling your resources. Good luck! Kate Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hi Ellen, Perhaps "BUDDEN" is Ann's maiden name? I have some information for you from the IGI - that I could send you off list. Cheers, Christine
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ravdav99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6237.6.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Caroline, I expect you already have this but the marriage of Jethro to Ellen Pellew 24 September 1827 was at St. Nicholas, Plumstead, Greenwich, London. Both were described as "of this parish". The baptism of their first(?) child Robert Robins on 14th September 1828 was at St. Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, London says he was born 23 August 1828. A number of Public Family Trees shown on Ancestry.co.uk show Jethro to be born in Yorkshire, but do not give any evidence, also that his father was Peter Robins also born in Yorkshire in 1766, but sadly no further evidence. I have tried unsuccessfully to find any more. Best of Luck Rosemary Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hi there, I am back with yet ANOTHER request for you to answer - sorry about that. This time I need to know who the FATHER is in this family please. John MARGRIE married Anne SEAWARD. John was born 1821 in Bridport he then moved out to Jersey in the 1830's, I have been to Jersey archives to trace his family. What I would like to know is ---- who was John MARGRIE's father please as the the Jersey marriage certificate doesn't have the father on it. They got married 1840 in Jersey but now I need to know who his father is please. Does anyone have the registers for this period please? Thank you very much. Diane
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CarolineAmundson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6237.6/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi! Im looking for a Jethro Robins (b.1790) according to his military record he was born in Netherbury,Dorset. I had the OPC of Netherbury look him up there but there is no record. Her thought was maybe he was from a smaller town around Netherbury, but I have had no luck on the OPC site. Jethro did leave dorest to join the Royal marines but returned around 1829/30 and was in Beaminister with his wife Ellen and his second son William was baptised there. They left and imigrated to Canada after that. Really just trying to find his baptism and parents...He is my brick wall! Any help would be appreciated! Thanks so much!!! Caroline Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
The two New Louen Poole Eng references I found on Google relate to the same marriage in Hermitage Bay, Newfoundland. I suspect that they are based on the same transcription so to settle this it will probably be necessary to look at the original document. There was a separate reference to 'New Louen, Conn' on the ellisisland.org website, but looking at the original Ship's Manifest proved that this was an error and it should have been New London, Conn. There is a 'New London Tavern' in Lagland Street, Poole but although this appears in the 1889 issue of Kelly's Directory, I cannot see any adjacent area which might be referred to 'New London' although it may have been a customary rather than official designation in a similar sense to 'The (Big) Smoke' for London. Intriguingly on the same marriage page (http://ngb.chebucto.org/Parish/herm-marr-01.shtml) there is an entry for a Richard Penny in 1877. He was born 'Newton, England'. Given the link between Dorset and Newfoundland this could be a contraction of Sturminster Newton, but as this is some distance from Poole I do not think that this is not connected with 'New Louen'. I look forward to hearing what suggestions come from your visit to Poole Museum. Russell -----Original Message----- From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean Sent: 20 September 2010 10:40 To: Rootsweb Dorset Subject: [DOR] New Louen Poole Dorset I keyed in New Louen Poole Eng on google and there are many references to that name, mostly people from newfoundland with ref to where their ancestors come from. Have never heard of the name, I donot think it is newtown, its in the borough of poole, am puzzled, is it a ship ? regards Jean in Poole. PS AM MEETING TOMORROW WITH POOLE HISTORIANS AT POOLE MUSEUMTO FIND MORE ABOUT "New Louen Poole Eng" Jean in POOLE
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: leestroud_1 Surnames: White Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6239/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I dont really know where to start with this. I live in Australia now so it is making it very hard to find my birth father. All I know about him is that his name is Graham White he lived in dorset in 1983 and was about 18-22 years old at this time. If anyone can help me with this or point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated. thanks Luisa Stroud previously Luisa Brown (Phillipa Whale) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
I keyed in New Louen Poole Eng on google and there are many references to that name, mostly people from newfoundland with ref to where their ancestors come from. Have never heard of the name, I donot think it is newtown, its in the borough of poole, am puzzled, is it a ship ? regards Jean in Poole. PS AM MEETING TOMORROW WITH POOLE HISTORIANS AT POOLE MUSEUMTO FIND MORE ABOUT "New Louen Poole Eng" Jean in POOLE
Thank you I see no connection Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean" <lilacthreads@tiscali.co.uk> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:08 AM Subject: [DOR] HOBBY > These are my hobby's born wimborne - corfe mullen - blandford dorset - > some > I do not have birth dates for. have put them in alphabet order. i donot > think mine connect, maybe they will be usefull in the future, kind regards > Jean in Dorset > > BRIDGET M 10 JUNE 1723 THOMAS POPE > CHARITY 21 DEC 1730 > ELIZABETH M MAURICE HOBBY > ELIZABETH M WILLIAM > ELIZABETH 1719 M RICHARD HARDING > HENRY > ISAAC 1654 M MARGARET > ISAAC 1701 M MARY > ISAAC 26 JULY 1726 M ANN STAG > JANE > JOHN > JOHN > JOHN 13 OCT 1687 > JOHN 15 SEP 1733 > JOSEPH 1692 > JOSEPH 1732 > MARGARET M WILLIAM FRANCES > MARIE > MARTHA 1723 > MARY 1728 > MARY 1726 > MAURICE > MAURICE 1728 > MAURICE 1690 > STEPHEN > THOMAS > THOMAS > WILLIAM M ELIZABETH > WILLIAM > > > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Vicki Could it be a misreading of Newtown? That's about halfway between Poole and Bournemouth according to my map. What is your source? If it is a Census or similar, posting the reference may help with another pair of eyes :-) Russell -----Original Message----- From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Victoria Caison Sent: 20 September 2010 01:00 Subject: [DOR] Wellman from Poole Has anyone ever heard of a place called New Louen near/in/around Poole? I'm trying to make the Newfoundland/England connection for one of my ancestors, Henry Wellman, who is on parish record (Newfoundland) as having been born in New Louen, Poole, England, in 1850. Thank you! Vicki
Hi Christel, I can find in 1891 census Bowring William Head Married 48 Y1843 Gardeners Lab Winterbn S.Martn Dorset England Upwey1645 13 19 Bowring Eliza Wife Married 45 Y1846 Laundress Uploders Dorset England Upwey1645 13 19 Bowring Emily Daughter Unmarried 18 Y1873 Dressmaker Upway Dorset England Upwey1645 13 19 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William BOWRING Head M Male 38 Martinstown, Dorset, England Ag Lab Eliza BOWRING Wife M Female 35 Loders, Dorset, England Emily T. BOWRING Daur Female 9 Upway, Dorset, England Scholar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Upway, Dorset, England Family History Library Film 1341507 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2103 / 12 Page Number 18 1901 census has from Dorset OPC Elwell Street; William BOWRING; head; W; 58; General Labourer; Winterbourne St Martin; Folio11Page13 Emily TRAVERS; dau; M; 28; Upwey; Folio11Page13 Ettie BOWRING; dau; 9; Upwey; Folio11Page13 William TRAVERS; g-son; 3; Upwey; Folio11Page13 Hilda TRAVERS; g-dau; 10m; Upwey; Folio11Page13 1872 Sep-20; Emily Travers BOWRING; daughter of; William & Elizabeth; Upwey; Labourer; C W Hony, Curate FreeBDM Deaths Dec 1898 Bowring Eliza 53 Weymouth 5a 174 Marriages Dec 1896 Bowring Emily Travers Dorchester 5a 743 Travers Ernest William Dorchester 5a 743 Births Mar 1898 Travers William Robert Weymouth 5a 278 Births Jun 1900 Travers Hilda Eliza B Weymouth 5a 287 ?? BOWRING, William Age: 22 Marriage Wife: Rebecca Stone WELLMAN Age: 22 Marriage Date: 27 Feb 1865 Recorded in: Winterbourne-St Martin, Dorset, England Husband's Father: George BOWRING Wife's Father: John WELLMAN Source: FHL Film 1239260 Dates: 1865 - 1865 Christel, I can find the following on FREEBMD, so it appears 'Ettie' was used as a given name Births Mar 1893 Strawbridge Ettie Elizabeth Chard 5c 382 Births Jun 1894 Ford Ettie Kate Dorchester 5a 312 may be Births Jun 1891 Bowering Edith Millicent M B Weymouth 5a 309 Not a definite answer to your question. May be of some help. Kind regards, Lynne, Sydney, AUSTRALIA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christel Muncaster" <christelhelen@yahoo.co.uk> To: "dorset mailing list" <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:53 PM Subject: [DOR] BOWRING/BOWERING family > Hello > > I am trying to find details of Ettie Bowring, daughter of William Bowring > and Eliza Travers. She was born c1892 in Upwey. I can't find an > Ettie/Henrietta/Esther who will fit (is Ettie short for anything else?). I > also checked in the Dorchester district. > Could it be Matilda Alice [Dec 1891 dorchester] or Edith Millicent [Jun > 1891 weymouth]? I don't have either of them in the tree currently, can > anyone rule them out? > Since I don't know her "real" name I am struggling to find out what > happens to her ... > > Many thanks for any clues you can give me, > > Christel
Has anyone ever heard of a place called New Louen near/in/around Poole? I'm trying to make the Newfoundland/England connection for one of my ancestors, Henry Wellman, who is on parish record (Newfoundland) as having been born in New Louen, Poole, England, in 1850. Thank you! Vicki
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roz1841 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6238.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sadly on the missing front - I have a set of discs for Corfe Castle 1851 Census and the center part is totally illegible. Madly frustrating for me. Just vastly increases my admiration for all the Transcibers who do this work mostly on a volunteer basis. I can understand why people think their relatives did not reside in a particular place - just illegible. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hello everybody i wonder if anyone can help me i am trying to trace the original name of ann budden. She married Thomas akerman on the 25th November 1825 at bridport and she was stated as a widow. Does anyone know if a Male Budden married a ann around 1820. Ann was born around 1796 according to the 1841 census. I have tried to look this up myself but cannot get into the bridport records. Any help would be appreciated. Also Ann Budden/Akerman died in 1844 but i cannot find any evidence of her death or burial at stoke abbott. kind regards ellen
> Hello Kate > > I omitted some information when I asked for a look-up. Mary daughter of > William & Hannah born ? May 1818 died 18 Aug. 1818 at age 3 months. > > Regards > Win > ----- Original Message ----- > ------------------------------ > > > Hello Kate > > What a kind offer of yours. If you could look up the following I'd be most > grateful. > > I have Hannah BUDDEN born 10 May 1778 in Wimborne St. Giles, daughter of > Stephen Budden & Amelia Walsh. Hannah had the following children: all base > born. > William Budden 10 Oct 1798 born in Sixpenny Handley > Ann Budden 10 March 1803 born Sixpenny Handley > Mary Budden 24 June 1810 born Sixpenny Handley > > She married a William ELLIOTT of Sixpenny Handley 14 March 1814 and had > two > more children > Charles Elliott 02 April 1815 born Sixpenny Handley > Mary Elliott ? May 1818 born Sixpenny Handley > > Have not been able to find any info on William ELLIOTT i.e. when & where > he > was born & died. > > Many Thanks > Win >
Thanks very much Vanessa for your reply. I did know of this William Elliott but have not been able to confirm if he is the right one. I know that Hannah & William were married by banns on 14th of March 1814. (Page 2 Entry 5 of Sixpenny Handley Marriages). Both signed by X & witnesses were Stephen Oxford & Joseph Isaac. If this is the right William then they were only married nine months & he never lived to see his son Charles born, if in fact it was his son & not someone else's. Is there any way of knowing if this was a first marriage for William? I wonder if Hannah may have worked for William as a housekeeper & married her. Guess there are all kinds of possibilities. Thanks Again Win ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanessa Marshall" <van.m@o2.co.uk> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com>; <winjohn@sympatico.ca> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [DOR] Parish Look-ups > Dear Win, > > This might be him: > > William ELLIOTT s/o William ELLIOTT baptised on 27 April 1766 at St. > Mary & St Bartholomew, Cranborne. > > Cranborne is an adjecent parish to Sixpenny Handley (and they are 4 > miles - about 6 1/2 km apart). > > There is also a burial at Sixpenny Handley as follows: > > William ELLIOTT of Newtown (aged 42) on 28 December 1814 > This would make his year of birth abt 1772 > (so unless the age is incorrect, not the one above) > > If you think that this is the burial of your William, then Mary was also > born out of wedlock, (but would still be an Elliott) as that was now her > mother's name. If it is him, they weren't married for long. > > Regards > > Vanessa > Dorset