Dear Diane, There are quite a few MARGRIEs baptised in Bridport (both at the parish church & non-conformist), the Johns listed are: John Hide MARGRIE - s/o Benjamin & Elizabeth on 26 February 1807 @ Bridport John Hide MARGRIE - s/o Benjamin & Elizabeth on 28 February 1811 @ Bridport John MARGRIE - s/o Benjamin & Elizabeth on 18 February 1821 @ Bridport John MARGRIE - s/o William & Mary Ann on 11 April 1823 @ Bridport John MARGRIE - s/o William & Maryann (sic) on 6 January 1825 @ Bridport It looks like his parents were Benjamin & Elizabeth MARGRIE. Does he have any known siblings in order to confirm whether this is him or not? It appears from the records that he possibly had at least 9 siblings, if you want details of them, please let me know. Benjamin MARGRIE married Elizabeth LACY (x) on 8 October 1800 @ Bridport Witnesses: Elizabeth LACY & John CURME (clerk) It appears from the 1851 census that Elizabeth was born in Symondsbury abt 1780 There is a baptism for Elizabeth LACEY (sic) d/o Hugh & Ann LACEY on 17 June 1781 @ Symondsbury which could be her. Benjamin doesn't appear on the 1841 or 1851 census' so his year & place of birth is unknown & I can't find a baptism for him. Benjamin probably died before 1837 as his death registration doesn't appear on the BMDs. I hope this helps Regards Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Sowden" <dpkms20042000@yahoo.co.uk> To: <DORSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 5:24 PM Subject: [DOR] Another request from me Diane! Hi there, I am back with yet ANOTHER request for you to answer - sorry about that. This time I need to know who the FATHER is in this family please. John MARGRIE married Anne SEAWARD. John was born 1821 in Bridport he then moved out to Jersey in the 1830's, I have been to Jersey archives to trace his family. What I would like to know is ---- who was John MARGRIE's father please as the the Jersey marriage certificate doesn't have the father on it. They got married 1840 in Jersey but now I need to know who his father is please. Does anyone have the registers for this period please? Thank you very much. Diane

David As Poole is in the Diocese of Salisbury, the BTs are stored in Chippenham in Wiltshire at the Wiltshire & Swindon History Centre - this is the case for most Dorset BTs. Not much use for you in Canada though. Unfortunately most BTs prior to 1723(?) were lost in the fire at Blandford where they were previously stored before the transfer of the parishes from the Diocese of Bristol to Salisbury. So if there are gaps in the PRs prior to 1723 then I'm afraid that the BTs will be of no help. As Vanessa has already pointed out the BTs from 1802 are available online through the LDS. Regards Jon Baker Dorset OPC Co-ordinator www.opcdorset.org Does anybody happen to know if Bishops Transcripts exist for Poole (St James), and if so, where might they be? Many of the pre-1700 entries in the parish register are lost (numerous pages appear to have been destroyed by mould), so I'm hoping that BTs might still preserve the information.

Dear David, I also forgot to mention that the St. James, Poole baptisms (1653 - 1905), marriages (1804 - 137) & burials (1622 - 1739) are available via Find my Past (unfortunately, this is a fee paying site) - see www.findmypast.co.uk (These are transcriptions done at Dorset Hiatory Centre by the volunteers of Dorset FHS and submitted to FMP through the contract they have with FFHS (Federation of Family History Societies). Regards Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pike" <dapike@mun.ca> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:50 PM Subject: [DOR] Bishops Transcripts for Poole ? > > > Does anybody happen to know if Bishops Transcripts exist for Poole (St > James), and if so, where might they be? > > Many of the pre-1700 entries in the parish register are lost (numerous > pages appear to have been destroyed by mould), so I'm hoping that BTs > might still preserve the information. > > Thanks, > > - David.

Dear David, I beleive that the LDS Church filmed the BTs for St. James, Poole (baptisms 1802 - 1880 & marriages 1841 - 1846) and you can access them on their Family Search site. A better link yo them would be via Hugh Wallis' pages - see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm You will see that they have also filmed some of the Poole non-conformist records including Skinner Street Independant (baptisms 1741 - 1847), Hill Street Presbyterian (baptisms 1760 - 1837), Hill Street Baptist (baptisms 1787 - 1837) & Chapel Lane Weslyan (1809 - 1837) and it might be worth checking these also. I don't believe that any earlier BTs exist though. If you prefer, you could view the films at one of their Family History Centres (if you pre-book them). You could also contact Dorset Family History Society - see www.dorsetfhs.org.uk as they have the Poole St. James parish records from 1653 on microfiche. Otherwise it means contacting Dorset History Centre (Dorset County Records Office) who have the original records filmed on microfiche from about 1558 - see www.dorsetforyou.com/archives Regards Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Pike" <dapike@mun.ca> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:50 PM Subject: [DOR] Bishops Transcripts for Poole ? > > > Does anybody happen to know if Bishops Transcripts exist for Poole (St > James), and if so, where might they be? > > Many of the pre-1700 entries in the parish register are lost (numerous > pages appear to have been destroyed by mould), so I'm hoping that BTs > might still preserve the information. > > Thanks, > > - David. > > > *************************************** >

Does anybody happen to know if Bishops Transcripts exist for Poole (St James), and if so, where might they be? Many of the pre-1700 entries in the parish register are lost (numerous pages appear to have been destroyed by mould), so I'm hoping that BTs might still preserve the information. Thanks, - David.

Replied off-list to Ellen Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Amabel Delaney" <elliedd@btinternet.com> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com>; <dorsetlookups@fsmail.net> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 8:36 AM Subject: [DOR] john parker born 1773 Broadwindsor and Mary Hardy born 1776Broadwindsor > hello > > I wonder if anyone can help me i am trying to find out the birth date of > John Parker born 1773 Broadwindsor i have checked various sources but > cannot find out his christening date at broadwindsor in 1773, it states he > was born there in the 1851 census. He married a Mary Hardy in 1797 at > Stoke Abbot and Mary Hardy was born 1776 at Broadwindsor however i cannot > find a christening date for her either at Broadwindsor. Can anyone help > please as i would like to know who their parents might have been. > > Kind regards > > ellen > > ***************************************

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CarolineAmundson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6237.6.3.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, thank you for your response..I found this info too, and am wondering if they maybe his family. Still trying to find proof :) Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Luisa, There are other ways of finding birth parents. If you contact me offline (i.e. to this email address) I can send you some details. I went through a very similar experience to yours some years ago. Alan

Hi Alan, perhaps I was just very very lucky, I looked on different missing persons web sites, and left messages, and found a message from my adopted son, he was looking for me his birth mother, and I was looking for my son. Jean Subject: Re: [DOR] Finding my birth father Graham White Luisa, There are other ways of finding birth parents. If you contact me offline (i.e. to this email address) I can send you some details. I went through a very similar experience to yours some years ago. Alan

Hello I wonder if anyone can help me i am trying to find out the parents of James Parker born 1807 at Burstock. I have looked at family search but cannot find any details. Could any one help please. Also Mary Hardy born at Burstock in 1776. If anyone has any information it would be very helpful thanks. kind regards ellen

hello I wonder if anyone can help me i am trying to find out the birth date of John Parker born 1773 Broadwindsor i have checked various sources but cannot find out his christening date at broadwindsor in 1773, it states he was born there in the 1851 census. He married a Mary Hardy in 1797 at Stoke Abbot and Mary Hardy was born 1776 at Broadwindsor however i cannot find a christening date for her either at Broadwindsor. Can anyone help please as i would like to know who their parents might have been. Kind regards ellen

I have some relatives in my tree (from Kent/Sussex/Hants Romany families) with the name of Philadelphia - sometimes shortened to Delphy. Maybe the use of Philadelphia as a brand name for cheese spread has not helped it retain its popularity today? :-) Catherine On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Mrhenrythornton <mrhenrythornton@aol.com>wrote: > > Does anybody have any idea why the name 'Philadelphia' was such a popular > womans name in the 1800s ? > It has clearly died out completely since but it seems strange that it was > so prevalent back then. > Just pondering ....... > Peter > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Theresa, I was clearing out old e-mails and came across yours to the Dorset List. In case you haven't got it - here is details of Ruth's baptism: Ruth YOUNG d/o Joseph & Sarah on 20 September 1795 at Mappowder (Info Dorset FHS via FMP) Regards Vanessa (from just over the county boundary from you in Dorset) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Turnbull" <forestpony@btinternet.com> To: <DORSET-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:38 PM Subject: [DOR] Thorne and Ruth Young, Stoke Wake, Mappowder > Hi all > I am trying to find more information about one Ruth Young born circa > 1791 - 1806 (depending on which source- probably 1806) she died in 1885, > she lived in Mappowder and always stated that she had been born there. > Ruth brought up my GG Grandfather John Miller Biles (1821 - 1909) and his > sister Emma after their mother Jane/Jean/Ann Biles who had married James > Thorne the Swing Rioter died in 1830, I have been unable to find any blood > relationship to the Biles family. However John Miller Biles who was > illegitimate has his father recorded in the Mappowder Christening Register > as John Miller farmer of Plush, there was a belief in the family that the > Millers who were the squires of Plush contributed towards his upbringing. > My Grandmother held Ruth Young's memory very dear, although she never knew > her but I can find out nothing about her bar Census returns and the Death > Register. > I have been told that she was also remembered by the Thorne family, any > help very gratefully received. > Theresa Turnbull > Ringwood, Hampshire

Peter, The given name Philadelphia didn't entirely die out in the 20th century, but like any first names it's usage changed over the years. If you go back far enough there are plenty of other female names that have also fallen out of fashion - like Gresilda, Godlefe or Parnell. What is true is that Philadelphia was much more common between say 1600 - 1900, and particularly in the South (London, Sussex and Kent especially). Even so, if you look specifically at the 18th century, names such as Frances, Harriet, Caroline and Amelia were more frequently found than Philadelphia and others such as Gertrude and Constance were almost as popular back then. Duncan, Dundee

Peter I recall reading about the name somewhere but cannot find it now. It is possibly related to the Philadelphian Society, a Protestant Society founded in the 17th century by John Pordage in Berkshire. But I seem to recall it is related to a family in Sussex. If you search Christening records (in Ancestry for instance) you will find the name is particularly prevalent in the County - more than 50% of Philadelphia christenings were in Sussex. The name was used from late 17th to the 19th centuries. The origin of the name is allegedly from the name of a city in Asia Minor mentioned in Revelation in the New Testament. The name of the city meant "brotherly love". Cheers Jon Baker Does anybody have any idea why the name 'Philadelphia' was such a popular womans name in the 1800s ?

Hi Ian Welcome to the list. John and Philadelphia do seem to be elusive. The only possible sighting of John, and it really is a remote possibility, is of a John Pottle aged 31 sentenced to 1 month imprisonment for larceny in Surrey 4 Feb 1839. No other information that might help to confirm or otherwise that this is indeed the man you are searching for. Jon Baker Dorset OPC Co-ordinator www.opcdorset.org -----Original Message----- The particular Pottle I'm interested in was christened (2 April 1809) JOHN RIDEOUTE POTTLE. He married (4 November 1835, Old Church, St Pancras, London) PHILADELPHIA GODDEN, from Sussex, who was six years his senior. I have so far failed to find these Pottles in 1841 and 1851

Many thanks Jon for your reply and for the possible lead. The surname is frequently mistranscribed in the census. In later life Philadelphia's surname is rendered as 'Pittle' and 'Bottle'. The criminal connection is by no means implausible: one of Philadelphia's sisters had two sons who were convicted of crime: one transported (aged 14) to Tasmania for theft, the other sentenced to 20 years for coining. The search continues! IAN

Does anybody have any idea why the name 'Philadelphia' was such a popular womans name in the 1800s ? It has clearly died out completely since but it seems strange that it was so prevalent back then. Just pondering ....... Peter

But the image itself is a transcription of course. Good Luck Antony Lambert -----Original Message----- From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Parsons Sent: 24 September 2010 09:52 To: dorset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DOR] asenath akerman daughter of maria akerman Although transcribed on Ancestry as GENITH, the Image clearly shows SENITH. Jim http://www.payman.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk --- On Thu, 23/9/10, Antony Lambert <antonylambert@certificates.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > From: Antony Lambert <antonylambert@certificates.fsnet.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [DOR] asenath akerman daughter of maria akerman > To: dorset@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, 23 September, 2010, 20:08 > Following up on this one, I wonder if > she is registered after all > > This seems a good candidate for a mis transcribed entry > > > Births Sep 1862   (>99%) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > AKERMAN  Genith    Beaminster  5a 373 > > > Good Luck > > Antony Lambert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Ellen Amabel Delaney > Sent: 23 September 2010 20:41 > To: dorset@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DOR] asenath akerman daughter of maria akerman > > > hello > > i am trying to get hold of the birth certificate of asenath > akerman but > unfortunately there does not seem to be evidence of her > birth on bmd.  She > was born around 1863 at Broadwindsor Dorset, her mother was > maria akerman. > Could anyone help please. > > kind regards > > ellen > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for > your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the > future.  SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity > (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DORSET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for > your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives > in the future.  SNIP everything which is not essential > for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which > will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My fingers are rather arthritic and I keep hitting the wrong keys. I of course meant HALSTOCK Jim --- On Fri, 24/9/10, Jim Parsons <dorsetresearcher@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > From: Jim Parsons <dorsetresearcher@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [DOR] Dorset Enquiry > To: dorset@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 24 September, 2010, 16:11 > As previously, having checked Google, > Genuki and Old Maps, I feeel sure this should be HALSTOVK > > Jim > http://www.payman.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk > > --- On Thu, 23/9/10, Derek and Jennifer Way <edenderry3@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > From: Derek and Jennifer Way <edenderry3@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [DOR] Dorset Enquiry > > To: "DORSET List" <dorset@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Thursday, 23 September, 2010, 14:47 > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > A fellow researcher in Kent has asked me to ask this > of the > > Dorset list, can anyone help please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In 1641, a Protestation was executed at Ryme > Intrinsica in > > Dorset, but not far from Yeovil.  The Overseer was > not > > included, as he lived in > > another village HOLDSTOCK.  Another > > version of this report, shows his village as > HOLSTOCKE. > > > >  > > > > It has been suggested, the there is a Holdstock > family > > connection here somewhere, but the only village that > > resembles the name is > > HALSTOCK. > > > >  > > > > I have, on a previous visit, been to the Reference > Library > > in Dorchester, but they felt "unable to > > assist." > > > >  > > > > Last week I visited Halstock and luckily I was able > to > > purchase, frm the parish church, the last copy of the > > village history.  The name Halstock is very old, > back > > to the > > tenth century in fact. > > > >  > > > > So my query is, is there or was there another village > > somewhere around Ryme that would provide the answer? > > Best Wishes,Derek > > > > > > > > > >      > >          > >            > >   > > > > *************************************** > > > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought > for > > your fellow list members, and anyone searching the > archives > > in the future.  SNIP everything which is not > essential > > for comprehension or continuity (including the footers > which > > will be put back anyway!) > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DORSET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > >       > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for > your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives > in the future.  SNIP everything which is not essential > for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which > will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >