This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stephbrady73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6269.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks again Vanessa, To be honest I am just guessing at the name Angelina as it is so prevalent in the family and they didn't give any of the other children that as the first name. The dates of the birth and death of the Angelina Foot that is buried in the Civic Cemetary also fit in with when they were living in Dorset and fits in with the dates they had their other children. Hopefully the details around the burial might help. Cheers Steph Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vanessamarshall Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6251.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Reiterkirk, I think it's possible that George HAYSHAM came from Bridgwater, Somerset. If you check on FreeREG, you will find alot of HAYSHAM baptisms there in the 1700s. Bridgwater is about 8 miles from Ashcott. Regards Vanessa Dorset Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stephbrady73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6269.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Vanessa She does not seem to have been baptised. I will contact the website and see if they have any burial info. Cheers Steph Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vanessamarshall Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6269.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Stephbrady73, I forgot to mention that the place named on the burial record (St Peters, Dorchester) is where the family were living at time of death and not the place of birth. The place given on the Indices on FreeBMD are Districts, not towns. If you click on the place name, it will give a list of all the parishes (towns & villages) covered in that District. You could then (as far as possible) check the baptism /census records for each to see if you can find record for her which would give the parent's names. I've had a quick look at the Index and the entry appears to be: Allena FOOT birth registered Dec 1/4 1874 Bridport District. Checking the census records for 1881 there is an Allena FOOT aged 6 living with her parents Francis & Jemima at Shipton Gorge which is in the Bridport District, so I don't think this is the Angelina who died in Dorchester in 1877. (Further records show Allena in 1901 and her death in 1936 also) It's possible that Angelina's birth wasn't registered as it wasn't compulsory until 1885. Regards Vanessa Dorset Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vanessamarshall Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6269.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Stephbrady73, Unfortunately it is not possible to look up Birth / Marriage / Death certificates in England & Wales. In order to check on parents names, you have to purchase the certificates at £9.25 each from the GRO. The information on FreeBMD is from the GRO Indices, which give you the reference numbers required to order them. See http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ for details. Unless you find a baptism which would give the parent's names, there is no way of knowing whether this Angelina is your missing child. I see that Angelina was buried in Dorchester Civic Cemetery, you could contact Dorchester Town Council to see if there is any more information on the cemetery records. See www.dorsetforyou.com under Cemeteries / Funeral Records in the A-Z index for details on how to contact them. Regards Vanessa Dorset Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Dear Richard, It is possible that the Licence & Allegation haven't survived, however the records for the Salisbury (Sarum) diocese are held at the Wiltshire Archives in Chippenham (confusingly called the Wiltshire & Swindon History Centre)- because Salisbury is in Wilts. See their website - www.wshc.eu for details of their holdings and how to obtain copies. There are many reasons for marriages to be by licence, but as the CLAVILLs were the local gentry it was probably to show their status and affluence. >From Wikipedia: 'Marriage licenses were introduced in the 14th century, to allow the usual notice period under banns to be waived, on payment of a fee and accompanied by a sworn declaration, that there was no canonical impediment to the marriage. Licenses were usually granted by an archbishop, bishop or archdeacon. There could be a number of reasons for a couple to obtain a license: they might wish to marry quickly (and avoid the three weeks' delay by the calling of banns); they might wish to marry in a parish away from their home parish; or, because a license required payment, they might choose to obtain one as a status symbol.' Regards Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Spicer" <richard.spicer@ntlworld.com> To: <DORSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:22 PM Subject: [DOR] Marriage Licence and allegations for Corfe Castle > > I would like to purchase a copy of the marriage licence and allegation, > for the marriage, by licence, between John Cull and Honour Clavil at the > Church of St Edward the Martyr, Corfe Castle, on the 27th November 1740. > > I am trying to find out where the information is held if some kind person > point me in the right direction. > I think that Corfe Castle was under the Diocese of Sarum at the time. > > And does anyone know why so many marriages at Corfe Castle for this period > were performed by licence. > > Thank you for any help offered. > > Richard Spicer > Bedfordshire
And maybe a little more on this: FreeReg has the baptism in West Pennard, of George (one of the sons in 1871) with parents James and Elizabeth GILLETT. All these births are registered in Wells, and in March 1871 there is a death registration for James GILLETT aged 37 yrs, at Wells. I have not found a positive match for a marriage of James and an Elizabeth. Just another piece of the puzzle maybe. And a correction to my earlier posting - 1881 Mary E A GILLETT aged 10 yrs , born West Pennard, is in Marnhull, boarding with the schoolmistresses. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Website: http://www.loanegenealogy.webs.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [DOR] Thomas Gillett c1842 > Ann > I need to contradict my earlier post. The references to Stourton Caundle > should be ignored, this appears to be a different Thomas Gillett, not > Thomas > Collins Gillett (this Thomas is married to Elisheba Bullock born Holwell, > baptized Glanvilles Wootton). > > At the moment I cannot positively locate your Thomas Gillett (from > Marnhull) > in a census earlier than 1881. However, in 1871 I can find an Elizabeth > Gillet from Fifehead living in West Pennard, Somerset with a son Thomas, > age > and place of birth as in 1881, but she is listed as a Widow, which is a > bit > concerning, even confusing. > > Jon Baker >
Bonjour Jean-Marie, I think this is probably your Tobias, Burial at St Mary, Mosterton - Tobias FARNHAM aged 80 on 24 December 1831 (therfore born circa 1751) Mosterton is about 2.2km (1.4miles) from South Perrott Can't find Frances' burial though. Have you got any dates / places for Elizabeth BISHOP Chaleureusement Vanessa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean-Marie Dessaux" <jmdparadis@orange.fr> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [DOR] William FARNHAM and Elizabeth BISHOP Re-bonjour tout le monde, Another couple of my direct ancestors N° 94 : William FARNHAM b May 15th 1763 South PERROT so Tobias Joseph FARNHAM and Frances FARR Death ? married July 23rd 1787 Broadwindsor N° 95 Elizabeth BISHOP I know NOTHING about her ! Lots of thanks for any help. Jean-Marie
Hullo Robyn Thank you very much for your reply, I will try the Dorset Record Office in Dorchester. I think that both John Cull and Honour Clavil were of a very young age, possibly 12 or 13 years old, and their parents were classed as gentry. I am trying to obtain a copy of their Marriage Licence and allegation to determine their parentage. Best wishes Richard Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:01:45 +1000 From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [DOR] Marriage Licence and allegations for Corfe Castle To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001cbafdb$d768a850$8639f8f0$@net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: reiterkirk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6251.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your reply. I think you are right that George and Ann(e) had their very first son in 1800, born and buried in St. Marylebone, Westminster, Middlesex. 1) But George and Ann were they married in St. Marylebone? Or were they married in Ashcott, Somersetshire? I do know that George and Ann (after 1801) lived some years in Ashcott, Somersetshire. They had 4 children there. If I could find the record of their marriage (about 1798) I could probably find the father of George and the father of Ann(e). Maybe someone could help me? I guess that AnnŽs surname before married was Hemmet or Hammett (??). One of her daughters was christened Francis Hammett Haysham. Another daughter Margaret Jane married Reiter called herself Margarete Jane Hemmet Haysham Reiter. 2) Could anybody help me finding the baptismal record of Ann(e) Hammett or Hemmet (about 1777) ? Probably in Ashcott, Somersestshire or in St. Marylebone, Westminster, Middlesex. IF she were a Jew, would it then be recorded in a special place? According to HEYSHAMS OF SOUTHWESTERN ENGLAND (Hissem Family), George Haysham (1776) should - perhaps - be the son of Thomas Haysham (1742). 3) But who was Thomas Haysham? Many thanks for any help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hmmm. Interesting indeed. The rest of the children of that Elizabeth in 1871 are spread far and wide in 1881. Two sons are with an unmarried uncle in Fifehead - Richard SANDFORD a farmer. A daughter, Mary A E is in West Pennard, boarding with a schoolmistress. Like John, I don't see this Thomas anywhere in earlier censuses. And no sign of the older children after 1881 either. I think you would need some birth certificates of the later children to sort this lot out. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Website: http://www.loanegenealogy.webs.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [DOR] Thomas Gillett c1842 > Ann > I need to contradict my earlier post. The references to Stourton Caundle > should be ignored, this appears to be a different Thomas Gillett, not > Thomas > Collins Gillett (this Thomas is married to Elisheba Bullock born Holwell, > baptized Glanvilles Wootton). > > At the moment I cannot positively locate your Thomas Gillett (from > Marnhull) > in a census earlier than 1881. However, in 1871 I can find an Elizabeth > Gillet from Fifehead living in West Pennard, Somerset with a son Thomas, > age > and place of birth as in 1881, but she is listed as a Widow, which is a > bit > concerning, even confusing. > > Jon Baker >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stephbrady73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6269/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I need some help please as I am researching from Ireland. I have been researching my Great Grandmas family. Her name was Mary Angeline Foot. She lived in Jersey Channel Islands with her mum Angelina Le Goubin and her dad George Foot. George was from Mintern Magna in Dorset. He moved to Jersey and married Angelina in 1869. They had some children in Jersey and then moved back to Dorset for a while where they had a child called Richard in Chirell, Dorset. They moved back to Jersey where they had a few more children. When I found the 1911 census I found that they had a child that did not survive to adulthood. I have traced all the children they had in Jersey, so I think this child was born in Dorset. Angelina is a family name and I have found an Angeline (Angelina) Foot who is buried in the Civic cemetary in Dorchester 1877. She was 2 when she died and was born in St. Peters, Dorchester. I can't find a baptism in St. Peters and her fathers name is not included in her burial register. I have found an Angelina Foot Free BMD death index born 1875 died 1877 in Dorcehester Dorset. I have found an A*lena Foot on the free BMD index birth born end 1874 in Bridport Dorset. However none of these records are really any use until I can see them and the parents names. I don't want to pay for any records yet as it is a bit of a long shot. If any one can do a look up I would really appreciate it Many Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hi Patsy, many thanks for your reply, much appreciated Ann Hmmm. Interesting indeed. The rest of the children of that Elizabeth in 1871 are spread far and wide in 1881. Two sons are with an unmarried uncle in Fifehead - Richard SANDFORD a farmer. A daughter, Mary A E is in West Pennard, boarding with a schoolmistress. Like John, I don't see this Thomas anywhere in earlier censuses. And no sign of the older children after 1881 either. I think you would need some birth certificates of the later children to sort this lot out. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand Website: http://www.loanegenealogy.webs.com Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [DOR] Thomas Gillett c1842 > Ann > I need to contradict my earlier post. The references to Stourton Caundle > should be ignored, this appears to be a different Thomas Gillett, not > Thomas > Collins Gillett (this Thomas is married to Elisheba Bullock born Holwell, > baptized Glanvilles Wootton). > > At the moment I cannot positively locate your Thomas Gillett (from > Marnhull) > in a census earlier than 1881. However, in 1871 I can find an Elizabeth > Gillet from Fifehead living in West Pennard, Somerset with a son Thomas, > age > and place of birth as in 1881, but she is listed as a Widow, which is a > bit > concerning, even confusing. > > Jon Baker > *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Many thanks for the info Jon, much appreciated Ann Ann I need to contradict my earlier post. The references to Stourton Caundle should be ignored, this appears to be a different Thomas Gillett, not Thomas Collins Gillett (this Thomas is married to Elisheba Bullock born Holwell, baptized Glanvilles Wootton). At the moment I cannot positively locate your Thomas Gillett (from Marnhull) in a census earlier than 1881. However, in 1871 I can find an Elizabeth Gillet from Fifehead living in West Pennard, Somerset with a son Thomas, age and place of birth as in 1881, but she is listed as a Widow, which is a bit concerning, even confusing. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- Hi list, I have a Thomas Gillett on the 1881 census, saying born c 1842, Mainhill,Dorset. His wife, Elizabeth, whose maiden surname I have yet to discover says she was born Fifehead Magdaline c1837. Could SKS please tell me where Mainhill is or was, Many thanks Ann *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TeamOwen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6251.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: All I could find - Margaret's father was George Haysham who married Ann(e). I may be wrong but it seems there may have been another brother George born 7th Dec 1800 who was buried on 6th Jan 1801 at St Marylebone, Westminster London, parents named Goerge and Ann. Bit of a coincidence, at the place Margaret and Frederick married and in their first year of marriage. Then when another sone is born he too is named George. This happened in my family, two brothers with same name but one predeceasing the birth of the second one. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Ann I need to contradict my earlier post. The references to Stourton Caundle should be ignored, this appears to be a different Thomas Gillett, not Thomas Collins Gillett (this Thomas is married to Elisheba Bullock born Holwell, baptized Glanvilles Wootton). At the moment I cannot positively locate your Thomas Gillett (from Marnhull) in a census earlier than 1881. However, in 1871 I can find an Elizabeth Gillet from Fifehead living in West Pennard, Somerset with a son Thomas, age and place of birth as in 1881, but she is listed as a Widow, which is a bit concerning, even confusing. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- Hi list, I have a Thomas Gillett on the 1881 census, saying born c 1842, Mainhill,Dorset. His wife, Elizabeth, whose maiden surname I have yet to discover says she was born Fifehead Magdaline c1837. Could SKS please tell me where Mainhill is or was, Many thanks Ann
Ann This will be Marnhull. I would expect this is Thomas Collins Gillett birth registered Jun 1841 Sturminster district. The 1891 census shows he was born in Marnhull, although the 1851, 1861 & 1871 censuses give his place of birth as Stourton Caundle. Jon Baker Dorset OPC www.opcdorset.org -----Original Message----- Hi list, I have a Thomas Gillett on the 1881 census, saying born c 1842, Mainhill,Dorset. His wife, Elizabeth, whose maiden surname I have yet to discover says she was born Fifehead Magdaline c1837. Could SKS please tell me where Mainhill is or was, Many thanks Ann
Author: heathertee1 Surnames: rogers Classification: biography hi henry and sophia rogers were my g,g,grandparents.his mother was harriett rogers living in shillingstone Hello Heather, I'm researching the 'Rogers Family' and most of them came from Shillingstone or the local surrounding area. I have a Henry Rogers b. abt 1837 who is the Gt Grand-uncle of my wife he died in 1919 Aged 82 at Shillingstone. He was one of three sons of Joseph Rogers b.17 Feb 1799 and Harriet Seymour b. abt. 1799. I have further info, If you think these are members of your tree. Kind regards from Nigel
Hi list, I have a Thomas Gillett on the 1881 census, saying born c 1842, Mainhill,Dorset. His wife, Elizabeth, whose maiden surname I have yet to discover says she was born Fifehead Magdaline c1837. Could SKS please tell me where Mainhill is or was, Many thanks Ann
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vanessamarshall Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/1471.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Trudi, Welcome to the list, I am not connected or researching this line, but you may like to know the following: Not all the children you listed are Henry & Sophia's: Henry ROGERS (aged 36) married Sophia WHITE (aged 24) on 16 November 1873 at Shillingstone. He was already a widower (possibly twice over!). See the Shillingstone page on the Dorset OPC site at www.opcdorset.org for full details of all his marriages and the baptisms of the children: Marriage: 1865 Henry ROGERS & Jemima CUFF Baptisms: 1865 Mary Louisa d/o Henry & Jemima 1868 Harriet d/o Henry & Jemima Marriage 1871: Henry Rogers (widow) & Ellen Percy (widow) No children found - possibly because she was already 44 when they married. Marriage 1873: Henry Rogers (widow) & Sophia WHITE Baptisms: 1874 Anna Amelia (Annie?) d/o Henry & Sophia Rebecca 1876 Kate d/o Henry & Sophia 1878 Everett Charles s/o Henry & Sophia Rebecca 1881 Alfred s/o Henry & Sophia Rebecca 1886 Walter Percy s/o Henry & Sophia Rebecca It appears that Alice was the illegitimate daughter of Sophia born before Sophia married Henry - she probably took her stepfather's name (very common then): Baptism: 1873 Alice Jane White d/o Sophia It also appears that Henry was the illegitimate son of Harriet ROGERS (born after her husband had died), but had half siblings. I hope this helps. Vanessa Dorset Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.