Don Do you know his parents and their occupation, I knew a Tommy Roberts and his wife who lived in Margaret Marsh (adjacent Parish) and their son Alan who is still alive. I was born West Orchard (adjacent Parish) and now live 5 miles away in Saftesbury. James Pitman <snip> I am looking for the descendants of Harry Tom Roberts who was born in East Orchard 1n 1877 <snip>
Hello Lyn, Not researching this family but Find my Past has: Burial at St Nicholas, Broadwey, Dorset Charles WHITTLE Age 61 31 January 1847 Source: National Burial Index via FMP However Dorset OPC has the transcription as follows: 31 January 1847 Charles WHITTLE of Broadwey Age 68 Officiating Minister - Francis Daubury There are lots of WHITTLE bsptism / marriages / burials (including some of Charles & Sylvia's children) listed on the Broadwey pages on the Dorset OPC site - see www.opcdorset.org The MIs (Monumental Inscriptions) are also listed, but there aren't any for WHITTLE - this is quite common as most people were too poor to be able to afford one (Charles being a quarry man this is most likely). Regards Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Schrvyver" <schryver@iinet.net.au> To: <DORSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:32 PM Subject: [DOR] Parish Transcripts > Good Morning All > > Does anyone have Parish register transcripts for Broadwey St Nicholas? > > I am looking for a death/headstone for Charles Whittle died Jan 1847. > > He married Sylvia Brown 1811 Broadwey. > > Is there anyone else searching this family? > > Lyn Schryver > Western Australia
Hi Jill, The following articles will probably help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortimer_Menpes http://www.campbell-fine-art.com/items.php?id=685 Menpes WW1 records from National Archives England http://tinyurl.com/4llzqas Will of a Richard Menpes, died 1849 of Tunbridge Wells , Kent. National Archives of Australia http://www.naa.gov.au/ Title Menpes, Charles Robert; age 29; born - England Contents date range 1916 - 1916 Series number MT1486/1 Click to see which government agency or person created this item. Control symbol MENPES/CHARLES ROBERT Item barcode 9747525 Location Melbourne Access status Open Date of decision 08 Feb 2008 Physical format PAPER FILES AND DOCUMENTS (allocated at series level) Extent 3 folios Date registered 04 Dec 2007 Digital record is not online. http://www.cwgc.org/ Commonwealth War Graves commission has Name: MENPES, ALBERT JAMES Initials: A J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Gunner Regiment/Service: Royal Horse Artillery Unit Text: 5 Regt. Age: 29 Date of Death: 04/12/1941 Service No: 1032192 Additional information: Son of William Richard and Louise Menpes; husband of Mabel Menpes, of Newport. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Block 31. Grave 15. Cemetery: NEWPORT (ST. WOOLOS) CEMETERY Name: MENPES Initials: C P Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) Unit Text: 18th Bn. Date of Death: 19/04/1917 Service No: 46375 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: III. L. 14. Cemetery: ST. PATRICK'S CEMETERY, LOOS Regards Lynne, Sydney, AUSTRALIA ----- Original Message ----- From: "MORLEY" <jmorley@austarnet.com.au> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:31 AM Subject: [DOR] WW1 - deaths UK > Can anyone please help me with a death in WW1 > either > Mortimer James Menpes born 1839 Fulham, or his brother > Walter Menpes born 1886 Fulham. > One of these men was killed in the 1st WW but I can not find any where > that > list the names killed? > Can any one please help me with this . > Thank you in anticipation > Jill > > OPC for the village Winterborne Kingston in Dorset - www.opcdorset.org
Lyn, I tried to reply to you yesterday to say thanks for all the information but both my mails got bounced by roots web as being too long. Admin have just advised me. Anyway, many thanks for all your help Ann
Jill, Follow-on to previous posts, the following may be useful if you do not already have the information, it supports the no WW1 death. Mortimer Luddington Mempes m Rosa Mary Grosse on 27 April 1875 at All Saints Marylebone by licence (both minors), Mortimers occupation Gentleman Fathers: James Menpes (Gentleman) & James Grosse (Grocer) deceased. Witnesses: James Menpes, ? ? Menpes & Louisa Florence Menpes Rose Maud G June Q 1878 (FreeBMD) Mortimer James Dec Q 1879 (FreeBMD) 1881 Census Fulham Mortimer (Artist), Rosa M & Children Rosa M (age 3) & Mortimer J (age 1), both parents born Adelaide Australia. Dorothy Whistler Dec Q 1883 (FreeBMD) Walter Dec Q 1886 (FreeBMD) 1891 Census not found Claud Mar Q 1892 1901 Census in Chelsea Mortimer & daughter Dorothy 8 June 1917 ship Baltic from NY to Liverpool (White Star Line) Walter Menpes age 31 Canadian Exped: Force (Military Officer) Last Perm resident Canada WW1 Medal Index 15th Cavalry (Can) enlisted 28.8.15 discharge 3.8.17 (Resigned Tempy Comm) Based on UK phone books it looks like Walter took up acting. Sometime between 1927 & 1936 Mortimer moved to Pangbourne area of Berkshire (based on phone book entries) 28 Aug 1936 Rosa Mary Menpes died Iris Court Pangbourne Berkshire, probate to Rosa Maud Goodwin Menpes (spinster) value £271 1 Apr 1938 Mortimer Luddington Menpes died Iris Court Pangebourne Berkshire, probate to Rosa Maud Goodwin Menpes (spinster) value £3260. Bob Hills ________________________________ From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Antony Lambert Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:51 To: dorset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DOR] WW1 - deaths UK Like others I couldn't spot either of these two having died in WW 1, however according to the Times, in 1932, a Mr Walter Mortimer Menpes attended the funeral of Grahame Green in Pangbourne So it may well be that he survived. Indeed this is supported by a mistranscription on ancestry of this person who died aged 59 in 1945 Wlater Menpes 1945 Oxford Oxfordshire Mortimer James Menpes died in 1900 in an accident at Joker Pit in Mashonaland in Rhodesia Kind regards Antony Lambert The Hurst Pages www.c5d.co.uk/hurstpages.htm -----Original Message----- From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MORLEY Sent: 15 January 2011 23:32 To: dorset@rootsweb.com Subject: [DOR] WW1 - deaths UK Can anyone please help me with a death in WW1 either Mortimer James Menpes born 1839 Fulham, or his brother Walter Menpes born 1886 Fulham. One of these men was killed in the 1st WW but I can not find any where that list the names killed? Can any one please help me with this . Thank you in anticipation Jill OPC for the village Winterborne Kingston in Dorset - www.opcdorset.org *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3383 - Release Date: 01/15/11
Here are the names of my ancestors in Dorset (and where most of them lived) - DAVIDGE : North Wooton - WEBBER : Wooton Fitzpaine -Broadwindsor- Drimpton - FARNHAM : South Perrot - Mosterton - SYMES : Child Hay - GRANGER : Folke Spouses; BISHOP - FOSTER - FARR - BAINTON - GOLDSNEY Jean-Marie 59242 Templeuve FRANCE
Hi Ann, Found the following entries, may be of some help in sorting out your 'Gillett's' 1881 census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Thomas GILLETT Head M Male 39 Mainhill, Dorset, England Beerhouse Keeper Elizabeth GILLETT Wife M Female 44 Fifhead Magdaline, Dorset, England Thomas GILLETT Son U Male 12 Pennard, Somerset, England Louisa GILLETT Dau U Female 5 Swindon, Wiltshire, England Scholar Nehimiah GILLETT Son Male 3 Swindon, Wiltshire, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling Clay Hill Fox & Hounds Beer House Census Place Lechlade, Gloucester, England Family History Library Film 1341311 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1278 / 105 Page Number 22 BIVRI GILLETT, Thomas George Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 1 Jan 1843 Recorded in: West Stafford, Dorset, England Father: John GILLETT Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1239229 Dates: 1830 - 1847 2) Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Thomas GILLETT Head M Male 40 Stourton Caundle, Dorset, England Farmer 70 Acres Employing 1 Man Elizabeth GILLETT Wife M Female 32 Holwell, Dorset, England Farmers Wife John T. GILLETT Son Male 15 London, London, Middlesex, England Farmers Son Robert G.E. GILLETT Son Male 10 Henstridge, Somerset, England Scholar Mary Jane ANTLE Visitor U Female 21 Holwell, Dorset, England Dary Maid (Visitor) Charley M. ANTLE Visitor Male 3 w Henstridge, Somerset, England Source Information: Dwelling Marsh Census Place Henstridge, Somerset, England Family History Library Film 1341576 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2396 / 54 Page Number 22 BIVRI GILLET, Thomas Collins Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 9 May 1841 Recorded in: Caundle Stourton, Dorset, England Father: George GILLET Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1279489 Dates: 1829 - 1849 ANTELL, Mary Jane Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 25 Jun 1859 Recorded in: Holwell, Dorset, England Collection: BTs Father: Robert ANTELL Mother: Jane Source: FHL Film 1239201 Dates: 1855 - 1860 ANTELL, Elizabeth Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 4 Jul 1852 Recorded in: Holwell, Dorset, England Collection: BTs Father: Robert ANTELL Mother: Sarah Source: FHL Film 1239201 Dates: 1851 - 1852 FreeBMD Births Jun 1859 ANTELL Mary Jane Sherborne 5a 371 or ANTELL Mary Jane Sturminster 5a 251 Births Jun 1881 ANTELL Charley Mansbridge Wincanton 5c 461 Marriages Jun 1866 BULLOCK Elisheba Sherborne 5a 707 GILLETT Thomas Sherborne 5a 707 Dorset OPC marriages 28.6.1866; Thomas GILLETT; 21; bachelor; yeoman; Henstridge; George GILLETT; yeoman; licence; Elishaba BULLOCK; 20; spinster; ; Holwell; Robert BULLOCK; publican; Witnesses; John R BULLOCK & ? ? TOOP 1861 census Crooch Hill; John ANTELL; Head; mar; 58; farmer of 80 A, empl only family; Holwell, Dorset; 86~8 Mary ANTELL; Wife; mar; 61; Farmer's wife; Holwell, Dorset; 86~8 Jane Ann OLD; Daughter; mar; 30; Farmer's daughter; Holwell, Dorset; 86~8 Robert ANTELL; Son; widower; 24; Farmer's son; Holwell, Dorset; 86~8 Mary Emily ANTELL; Daughter; un; 22; Farmer's daughter; Holwell, Dorset; 86~8 William ANTELL; Son; un; 19; Farmer's son; Holwell, Dorset; 86~8 Sarah ANTELL; Gr Daur; 7; Scholar; Holwell, Dorset; 86~8 Mary Jane ANTELL; Gr Daur; 1; Holwell, Dorset; 86~8 Robert ANTELL; Head; mar; 60; Ag Labourer; Holwell, Dorset; 89~13 Sarah ANTELL; Wife; mar; ?45; Stalbridge, Dorset; 89~13 William ANTELL; Son; un; 14; Ag Labourer; Holwell, Dorset; 89~13 Thomas ANTELL; Son; 11; Ag Labourer; Holwell, Dorset; 89~13 Elizth ANTELL; Daughter; 8; Ag Labourer; Holwell, Dorset; 89~13 1851 census Marnhull Burton Street, GILLETT, George, Head, Married, 30, Ag. Lab, Marnhull, HO107/1852/f36p29 Burton Street, GILLETT, Charlotte, Wife, Married, 25, , Marnhull, HO107/1852/f36p29 Burton Street, GILLETT, Emily Ann, Daughter, 5, , Marnhull, HO107/1852/f36p29 Burton Street, GILLETT, Thomas, Son, , 3, , Marnhull, HO107/1852/f36p29 Baptisms 1847; 11-Sep; Henry Thomas; George & Charlotte; Gillett; Marnhull; labourer; (BT) 1874; 11-Jan; Thomas; Gillett; Marnhull; 26; Lynne, Sydney, AUSTRALIA From: <Anndriscoll@aol.com> To: <DORSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:49 AM Subject: [DOR] Thomas Gillett c1842 > Hi list, I have a Thomas Gillett on the 1881 census, saying born c 1842, > Mainhill,Dorset. His wife, Elizabeth, whose maiden surname I have yet > to discover says she was born Fifehead Magdaline c1837. Could SKS > please > tell me where Mainhill is or was, > Many thanks > Ann
Hi Ann, BIVRI has GILLETT, Rosetta Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 27 Apr 1834 Recorded in: Caundle Stourton, Dorset, England Father: George GILLETT Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1279489 Dates: 1829 - 1849 GILLETT, Richard Jollay Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 12 Jun 1839 Recorded in: Caundle Stourton, Dorset, England Father: George GILLETT Mother: Anne Source: FHL Film 1279489 Dates: 1829 - 1849 GILLET, Thomas Collins Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 9 May 1841 Recorded in: Caundle Stourton, Dorset, England Father: George GILLET Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1279489 Dates: 1829 - 1849 to a George & Elizabeth there is GILLITT, Robert Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 7 Dec 1823 Recorded in: Caundle Stourton, Dorset, England Father: George GILLITT Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film 1279489 Dates: 1823 - 1826 GILLETT, Marther Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 2 Oct 1825 Recorded in: Caundle Stourton, Dorset, England Father: George GILLETT Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film 1279489 Dates: 1823 - 1826 GILLETT, Edward Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 6 Mar 1831 Recorded in: Caundle Stourton, Dorset, England Father: George GILLETT Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film 1279489 Dates: 1829 - 1849 Marriages GILLET, George Marriage Wife: Anne TOLLY Marriage Date: 22 Apr 1819 Recorded in: Caundle Bishops, Dorset, England Source: FHL Film 1279489 Dates: 1818 - 1823 interestingly there is the following marriages GILLET, George Marriage Wife: Martha COLLINS Marriage Date: 31 Dec 1805 Recorded in: Caundle Stourton, Dorset, England Source: FHL Film 1279489 Dates: 1801 - 1807 COLLINS, Thomas Marriage Wife: Sarah GILLET Marriage Date: 6 Jun 1820 Recorded in: Caundle Stourton, Dorset, England Source: FHL Film 1279489 Dates: 1814 - 1820 Kind regards, Lynne, Sydney, AUSTRALIA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Anndriscoll@aol.com> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:32 AM Subject: [DOR] Caundle Stourton parish registers GILLETT > Would SKS with access to the above parish registers, please have a look > for the baptisms of children of George & Ann Gillett? > I have Elizabeth c1821, Robert c1822, Ruth c1828, Edward c1831, Rosetta > c1834, Thomas C c1842. all born Caundle Stourton. > > Many thanks > Ann
Hello again Richard, I think that I would apply to Dorchester firstly as according to Phillimore records for Corfe Castle are held there. As you feel they might be gentry I looked at a book I have Amigerous Ancestors to see if I could find mention of the name, there was nothing for Cull but mention of Clavill of Steple in Dorset. I then looked at my disc of the Visitations for Dorset for this Clavill family but it was a very small pedigree. I don't know if you are a member of the Somerset & Dorset Family History Society but there is the name Cull mentioned in the pedigree service. Clavill is not mentioned in this list. Let me know how you get on. Sincerely, Robyn Queensland. Australia. -----Original Message----- From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Richard Spicer Sent: Sunday, 16 January 2011 3:39 AM To: DORSET@rootsweb.com Subject: [DOR] Subject: Re: Marriage Licence and allegations for Corfe Castle Hullo Robyn Thank you very much for your reply, I will try the Dorset Record Office in Dorchester. I think that both John Cull and Honour Clavil were of a very young age, possibly 12 or 13 years old, and their parents were classed as gentry. I am trying to obtain a copy of their Marriage Licence and allegation to determine their parentage. Best wishes Richard Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:01:45 +1000 From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: [DOR] Marriage Licence and allegations for Corfe Castle To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001cbafdb$d768a850$8639f8f0$@net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stephbrady73 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6269.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks to you both. My knowledge is primarily Jersey and Ireland, so many thanks for the info on the UK BMD's. I am fairly sure I have found all of the children born in Jersey. Its much easier to do look ups over there. Plus no charge. As to whether Angelina was a widow or not in the 1911 and 1901 census is up for debate. Am not convinced yet that she wasn't abandoned at some point and was calling herself a widow. have been trying to find George Foots death cert but there were a number of George Foots born in Dorset around the same time. I also wouldn't be surprised if Angelina jnr wasn't baptised. My great Gran Mary Angelina wasn't baptised till she was four! Thanks again Steph Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Would SKS with access to the above parish registers, please have a look for the baptisms of children of George & Ann Gillett? I have Elizabeth c1821, Robert c1822, Ruth c1828, Edward c1831, Rosetta c1834, Thomas C c1842. all born Caundle Stourton. Many thanks Ann
Dear Vanessa. Thank you very much for your reply. I will try the Wiltshire Archives in Chippenham. Regards Richard Spicer Bedfordshire Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:41:27 -0000 From: "Vanessa Marshall" <van.m@o2.co.uk> Subject: Re: [DOR] Marriage Licence and allegations for Corfe Castle To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1105461856C04D3880DCDB0C02E6D169@vanessalappy> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: reiterkirk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6251.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your help. I donŽt know if they are "my" George Haysham and Ann. But if they are, then they were married after the birth of their first son (?). I will try to check it. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: reiterkirk Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6251.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your advice. I will do that. Best regards. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
www.cwgc.org (Commonwealth War Graves) - but there is only 1 Menpes listed - C.P. Menpes or try www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Cheers Rose
Can anyone please help me with a death in WW1 either Mortimer James Menpes born 1839 Fulham, or his brother Walter Menpes born 1886 Fulham. One of these men was killed in the 1st WW but I can not find any where that list the names killed? Can any one please help me with this . Thank you in anticipation Jill OPC for the village Winterborne Kingston in Dorset - www.opcdorset.org
Like others I couldn't spot either of these two having died in WW 1, however according to the Times, in 1932, a Mr Walter Mortimer Menpes attended the funeral of Grahame Green in Pangbourne So it may well be that he survived. Indeed this is supported by a mistranscription on ancestry of this person who died aged 59 in 1945 Wlater Menpes 1945 Oxford Oxfordshire Mortimer James Menpes died in 1900 in an accident at Joker Pit in Mashonaland in Rhodesia Kind regards Antony Lambert The Hurst Pages www.c5d.co.uk/hurstpages.htm -----Original Message----- From: dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dorset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MORLEY Sent: 15 January 2011 23:32 To: dorset@rootsweb.com Subject: [DOR] WW1 - deaths UK Can anyone please help me with a death in WW1 either Mortimer James Menpes born 1839 Fulham, or his brother Walter Menpes born 1886 Fulham. One of these men was killed in the 1st WW but I can not find any where that list the names killed? Can any one please help me with this . Thank you in anticipation Jill OPC for the village Winterborne Kingston in Dorset - www.opcdorset.org *************************************** When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vanessamarshall Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6269.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Jon17573, Sorry - when I said 'compulsory' I should have said that the onus was on the registrar to find out about the births and not the parents to register the births themselves and I meant 1875 - that was a slip of my finger hitting the wrong key. I have a whole batch of ancestors who for some reason or other decided not to register the births or baptise their offspring (which I know is unusual). One of which is my Great Grandmother born circa 1865. I'm hoping that it is just an error and she has been omitted from the Index and one day she will turn up. I was pinning my hopes on the DoVE project - but now that seems to have gone by the board! Thanks for putting me right. I was just trying to let Steph know that not all births are on the Index. Regards Vanessa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Dear Jill. Ancestry has some WW1 records: The only WW1 MENPES death registered is: Charley Percy MENPES of the Machine Gun Corps, killed in action on 19 April 1917 in France & Flanders, Western European Theatre of War. Details as follows: Resided - Guildford Enlisted at Winchester No - 46375 Rank - Private Battallion - Infantry Regiment - Machine Gun Corps (formerley 2007 Hants Regt) I will send details of Lt Walter MENPES' WW1 medal card off list. There are also WW1 medal cards for: Albert MENPES G/89408 Middlesex Regt. Alfred J MENPES 35065 Bedfordshire Regt. Charles Percy MENPES 46375 Machine Gun Corps Francis MENPES 201945 East Kent Regt. Frederick J MENPES WR/43530 Royal Engineers Sydney MENPES 3427 Royal Horse/Field Artillery Thomas MENPES H/278 Royal Kent Yeoman Thomas A MENPES 27438 Oxford & Bucks Light Infantry William MENPES 178033 Royal Garrison Artillery There are Service Records for Frederick J MENPES - 43530 and Pension Records for Thomas MENPES - 278 There doesn't appear to be any WW1 records for Mortimer, however on Find my Past there is a mention of a record for Mr Mortimer MENPES - War Correspondent in the 1899 - 1902 Boer War which is held at the National Archives WO100series. Many records were lost in the London Blitz DURING WW2 in 1942. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission have lists of those that have died in battle and where they are either buried or memorialised. Regards Vanessa ----- Original Message ----- From: "MORLEY" <jmorley@austarnet.com.au> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:31 PM Subject: [DOR] WW1 - deaths UK > Can anyone please help me with a death in WW1 > either > Mortimer James Menpes born 1839 Fulham, or his brother > Walter Menpes born 1886 Fulham. > One of these men was killed in the 1st WW but I can not find any where > that > list the names killed? > Can any one please help me with this . > Thank you in anticipation > Jill > > OPC for the village Winterborne Kingston in Dorset - www.opcdorset.org
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jon17573 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6269.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just to correct one point that Vanessa made, birth registration was "compulsory" from 1837. But as there was no penalty on the parents for not registering the birth until 1875 (not 1885) it was not enforceable. One of the primary reasons for not registering a birth prior to 1875 was that parents were under the misapprehension that baptism was an alternative. From 1875 a fine was introduced for failure to register a birth. So as Angelina died aged 2 in late 1877, the overwhelming likelihood is that her birth would have been registered, and if not that she would have been baptised. All that said, there is of course a possibility that she slipped through the net. You should consider that she was registered under a different name (perhaps Angelina was a second name or she was not registered as a Foot), or even that she was registered outside of England, perhaps in the Channel Islands where you said siblings had been born. Something else to consider. If I understand correctly you are basing this search on the details of the 1911 census which indicates the number of years married and number of children of the marriage, and the number who have died. Firstly there is no guarantee that this information is correct. Secondly, it does not indicate that children died did not reach adulthood. Angelina Snr would be in her 60s by the 1911 census, so her "children" that died could have done so in their 20s or 30s, maybe even their 40s. If I am looking at the right entry in the 1911 census (in Jersey???) then the data for number of years married etc is actually crossed through, presumably because she was a widow. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.