Hi Lynne, Say hello to Keith for me. I would like to point out something - I too had always thought that 2 births registered at the same time with the same surname, vol & page numbers would be twins, but found this to be incorrect. I have 2 children with the same surname and registration details in one of my lines, who I thought were twins. However only one came up with the family on the next census, so I assumed the other had died, but couldn't find the death registration. Further research found the baptisms - both on the same day (so far, so good - I thought) then I noticed that they had different parents listed - so checked census details again and hey presto they were cousins and both still living! The parents must have travelled into town together to register the children. I have also found that although twins would probably be on the same page as they would be registered at the same time, it is possible that one could be on the next page (this has happened to my son's friends who are definitely twins, but have different references) as there is a maximum of about 12 names per page. I have learnt that one can never assume anything in this game!! Regads and best wishes, Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Radford" <keilyn03@tpg.com.au> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [DOR] Hodder/Hoare > Hi Felicia, > I know you have looked at freeBMD > have you seen the following > Marriages Jun 1862 > Hodder Henry Bridport 5a 701 > > Hoare Mary Ann Bridport 5a 701 > > > Births Jun 1863 > HODDER Henry William Bridport 5a 417 > > Births Mar 1866 > HODDER Frederick W Beaminster 5a 398 > > Births Dec 1869 > HODDER John Bridport 5a 392 > > > the other entry for John Hodder birth Sep quarter 1869 > appears to be a twin with a Mary M > Hodder John Bridport 5a 388 > Hodder Mary Martha Bridport 5a 388 > > > Deaths Dec 1888 > HODDER Henry 51 Bridport 5a 23_ > > > > 1891 census has > Hodder Mary A. Head Widow 53 Y1838 Coach Bldrs. Wd. Bradpole Dorset > England Bradpole1664 46 9 > Hodder Henry Son Unmarried 27 Y1864 Carriage Bldr. Bradpole > Dorset England Bradpole1664 46 9 > Hodder John H. Son Unmarried 21 Y1870 Grocers Asst. Bradpole > Dorset England Bradpole1664 46 9 > > May be some help. > Lynne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Felicia Riley" <felicia.r@talktalk.net> > To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:49 AM > Subject: [DOR] Hodder/Hoare > > >> Forgive my ignorance but having looked up freeBMD on internet, there >> seems >> to be a number of variations. > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Felicia, I'm not connected or researching this family, but have found the following for you (some of it you may already have): 1871 Census: Henry HODDER 34 Coach Builder b Bridport Mary A HODDER 32 b Bradpole Henry W HODDER 7 b Bradpole Frederick A HODDER 5 b Bradpole John Hoare HODDER 1 b Bradpole Residing Middle Street, Bradpole 1881 Census - They are all still living in Bradpole and John's elder brothers are working in the Coach Building business also. Marriage registration: Henry HODDER & Mary Ann HOARE Jun 1/4 1862 Bridport District GRO Ref: 5a - 701 (Note: Bradpole is in Bridport Registration District) Birth registrations: Henry William HODDER Jun 1/4 1863 Bridport District GRO Ref: 5a - 417 Frederick Alfred HODDER Jun 1/4 1865 Bridport District GRO Ref: 5a - 406 John HODDER Sep 1/4 1869 Bridport District GRO Ref: 5a - 388 Baptisms: Herbert Henry HODDER s/o Henry & Mary Ann 3 November 1867 @ Bradpole Another source gives the baptism as Herbert Edward HODDER - other details identical. John House(sic) HODDER s/o Henry & Mary Ann 30 November 1869 @ Bradpole (I believe House to be a mis-translation of Hoare) No birth / death registered for a Herbert Henry / Henry Herbert or Herbert Edward / Edward Herbert) but there is the following: Edwin Herbert HODDER Sep 1/4 1867 Bridport District GRO Ref: 5a - 401 - Birth Edwin Herbert HODDER Dec 1/4 1867 Bridport District GRO Ref: 5a - 243 - Death Death registration: Henry HODDER (aged 51) Dec 1/4 1888 Bridport District GRO Ref: 5a - 23? (possibly 231 - not clear on original index) Index of Wills: Henry HODDER - The will of Henry HODDER late of Bradpole..., Coach Builder who died 18 November 1888 was proved at Blandford on 19 June 1889 by John HODDER of Bridport, Accountant, the brother, one of the Executors - Personal Estate: £880 12s 8d. (It may be worth getting a copy of the full will) 1891 Census: Mary Ann HODDER is still residing in Bradpole with sons Henry & John. Henry is a Coach Builder and John a Grocer's Assistant. Frederick Alfred HODDER is in Cowley, Oxfordshire with wife Laura Elizabeth and son Frederick Henry and is a Coach Painter. 1901 Census: Mary A HODDER is still residing in Middle Street, Bradpole living on own means. Henry W HODDER is in Southampton as a Cycle Fitter. Frederick A HODDER is in Basingstoke, Hants with wife Laura & 4 children John HODDER appears to be living with a cousin in Litton Cheney and is a baker. 1911 Census: Henry HODDER is in Woolston, Southampton and is a Motor Engine Fitter. Fredeick Alfred HODDER is still in Basingstoke with Laura & 5 children. I can't find John in 1911. Death registration: Mary Ann HODDER (aged 73) Jun 1/4 1910 Bridport District GRO Ref:5a - 205 - This seems the most likely one. I believe Henry HODDER to be the son of Henry Gundry HODDER & Sarah BAKER who were married on 21 June 1836 @ Bridport. I think Henry was born in either late 1836 or early 1837 which was before Civil Registration began and is therefore not registered, so there won't be a birth certificate for him. He appears on the 1841 census (aged 4) in Barrack Street, Bridport with his parents and a brother John (8mths) - His father is a Coach Builder. They are still there in 1851 and he has 4 siblings, but the first John has died and there is another John aged 4. In 1861 census (aged 24) he is still with his parents and his 5 siblings, both he and his father are Coach Builders of Bridport. Henry Gundry HODDER was baptised on 4 August 1813 @ Bridport being the son of Henry HODDER & Sarah ? (unknown). (He has at least 10 siblings all baptised in Bridport) I can send full details of the earlier census' and the baptisms if you want them. I hope this helps, Regards Vanessa Dorset ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felicia Riley" <felicia.r@talktalk.net> To: <DORSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 3:45 PM Subject: [DOR] Hodder > My maternal grandfather was John H. Hodder born in Bradpole on29.08.1869. > His parents were Henry Hodder (coachbuilder) and Mary Ann Hoare. I have > not been able to find a marriage record for Henry Hodder & Mary Ann Hoare. > Also record of birth for Henry Hodder - the 1881 census gives his age as > 44 so birth may be around 1837. > > If anyone can help I would be very grateful as I have been stuck on this > for ages. Felicia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ewb1017 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/273.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have the same Nov 11, 1847 marriage record for Mary Gullage and John White but do not know who Mary's parents are. It looks like Mary would have been born about the early to mid 1820's and there is a gap in Joseph / Elizabeth's children (Janes 1822 and George 1831) so there is a possibility that Mary could fit in there somewhere. Ed Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwhit2001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/273.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the same information as originally requested here back in 1999. Any information about Joseph and Elizabeth Gullage who immigrated to Catalina, Newfoundland in the early 1800's. I woudl like to correct something stated in the earlier post however. Their son John Gullage B 1836 was actually born in Catalina, not in Poole England. His baptism is recorded in the Grand Banks geneology site. I hope this helps someone. Anyone with info on Joseph and Elizabeth would be welcomed to contact me. John W. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwhit2001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/273.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks Ed, I have all the data that matches yours. In addition I have Alexander 1859 Married Sarah Ann Tippet also as a child of James and Elizabeth. I also have all of James siblings and their children. It is James father Joseph and wife Elizabeth Gullage that I am trying to find info on. I believe Joseph Gullage B 1794 is the first Gullage in Newfoundland (from what I have seen so far). Let me know if you need any of the info I have on the extended family beyond James. PS Joseph Sweet Gullage ( B 1859) is my great grandfather. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Forgive my ignorance but having looked up freeBMD on internet, there seems to be a number of variations. Which is best? I have already subscribed to Ancestry.co.uk which I do not find easy to use - I am not particularly computer literate. I am quite willing to subscribe elsewhere but need guidance on what is best. Felicia

I have a birth certificate for a John Hodder born in Lyme in March 1847 son of John Hodder & Elizabeth Hodder formerly Hoare. I think might be a relative of my family but no link found except for surnames Hodder & Hoare. Also a certificate for John Hodder again born in MaRCH 1847 THIS TIME IN bRIDPORT, FATHER hENRY gUNDRY hODDER cOACHBUILDER MOTHER sARAH hODDER FORMERLY bAKER. Felicia

----- Original Message ----- From: "Felicia Riley" <felicia.r@talktalk.net> To: <DORSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 3:45 PM Subject: [DOR] Hodder > My maternal grandfather was John H. Hodder born in Bradpole on29.08.1869. > His parents were Henry Hodder (coachbuilder) and Mary Ann Hoare. I have > not been able to find a marriage record for Henry Hodder & Mary Ann Hoare. > Also record of birth for Henry Hodder - the 1881 census gives his age as > 44 so birth may be around 1837. > > If anyone can help I would be very grateful as I have been stuck on this > for ages. Felicia I have a John Henry Hodder on the fringe of my tree. He is recorded in the 1851 census as being age 15 born in Beaminster, when it looks like he was an apprentice printer, but he disappears after that. I have John Henry as the son of a baker called John and Elizabeth. John died young and Elizabeth remarried to George Bradford. By contrast I do not see Henry Hodder the coach builder before 1861, though I note that he is shown as the son of Henry Hodder (b.c.1814, Bridport) also a coachbuilder and Sarah, so not the same, but could be a cousin. Regards Peter

thank you, I shall apply for a marriage certificate. The Henry you refer to in your second e mail may be same one, does the record give details of his parents? Sent from my iPad On 15 Feb 2011, at 16:13, "Catherine Randall" <crandall@andrewswireless.net> wrote: > Have you check FreeBMD. They are listed married in Bridport June quarter > 1862. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Felicia Riley" <felicia.r@talktalk.net> > To: <DORSET@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:45 AM > Subject: [DOR] Hodder > > >> My maternal grandfather was John H. Hodder born in Bradpole on29.08.1869. >> His parents were Henry Hodder (coachbuilder) and Mary Ann Hoare. I have >> not been able to find a marriage record for Henry Hodder & Mary Ann Hoare. >> Also record of birth for Henry Hodder - the 1881 census gives his age as >> 44 so birth may be around 1837. >> >> If anyone can help I would be very grateful as I have been stuck on this >> for ages. Felicia >> >> *************************************** >> >> When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list >> members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything >> which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the >> footers which will be put back anyway!) >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My maternal grandfather was John H. Hodder born in Bradpole on29.08.1869. His parents were Henry Hodder (coachbuilder) and Mary Ann Hoare. I have not been able to find a marriage record for Henry Hodder & Mary Ann Hoare. Also record of birth for Henry Hodder - the 1881 census gives his age as 44 so birth may be around 1837. If anyone can help I would be very grateful as I have been stuck on this for ages. Felicia

No. That also is from FreeBMD and one you have to order to get details unfortunately. Have you gone to FreeBMD to get the information you need to order? Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felicia" <felicia.r@talktalk.net> To: <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [DOR] Hodder > thank you, I shall apply for a marriage certificate. The Henry you refer > to in your second e mail may be same one, does the record give details of > his parents? > > Sent from my iPad > > On 15 Feb 2011, at 16:13, "Catherine Randall" > <crandall@andrewswireless.net> wrote: > >> Have you check FreeBMD. They are listed married in Bridport June quarter >> 1862. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Felicia Riley" <felicia.r@talktalk.net> >> To: <DORSET@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:45 AM >> Subject: [DOR] Hodder >> >> >>> My maternal grandfather was John H. Hodder born in Bradpole >>> on29.08.1869. >>> His parents were Henry Hodder (coachbuilder) and Mary Ann Hoare. I >>> have >>> not been able to find a marriage record for Henry Hodder & Mary Ann >>> Hoare. >>> Also record of birth for Henry Hodder - the 1881 census gives his age as >>> 44 so birth may be around 1837. >>> >>> If anyone can help I would be very grateful as I have been stuck on this >>> for ages. Felicia >>> >>> *************************************** >>> >>> When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow >>> list >>> members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP >>> everything >>> which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the >>> footers which will be put back anyway!) >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> *************************************** >> >> When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow >> list members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP >> everything which is not essential for comprehension or continuity >> (including the footers which will be put back anyway!) >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

There was also a Henry Hodder born Bridport March quarter 1839. May or may not be him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felicia Riley" <felicia.r@talktalk.net> To: <DORSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: [DOR] Hodder > My maternal grandfather was John H. Hodder born in Bradpole on29.08.1869. > His parents were Henry Hodder (coachbuilder) and Mary Ann Hoare. I have > not been able to find a marriage record for Henry Hodder & Mary Ann Hoare. > Also record of birth for Henry Hodder - the 1881 census gives his age as > 44 so birth may be around 1837. > > If anyone can help I would be very grateful as I have been stuck on this > for ages. Felicia > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Have you check FreeBMD. They are listed married in Bridport June quarter 1862. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felicia Riley" <felicia.r@talktalk.net> To: <DORSET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: [DOR] Hodder > My maternal grandfather was John H. Hodder born in Bradpole on29.08.1869. > His parents were Henry Hodder (coachbuilder) and Mary Ann Hoare. I have > not been able to find a marriage record for Henry Hodder & Mary Ann Hoare. > Also record of birth for Henry Hodder - the 1881 census gives his age as > 44 so birth may be around 1837. > > If anyone can help I would be very grateful as I have been stuck on this > for ages. Felicia > > *************************************** > > When replying to this message, please spare a thought for your fellow list > members, and anyone searching the archives in the future. SNIP everything > which is not essential for comprehension or continuity (including the > footers which will be put back anyway!) > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DORSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jon17573 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6279.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: When did Walter's parents (Walter & Elizabeth I believe) marry? Do you know Elizabeth's maiden/previous name, if so have you checked for Walter's birth registration under that name? There is a strong likelihood that he was born before they were married - I noticed in the 1891 census that he is 10 years older than the next sibling in the family, which possibly may indicate that he is not the son of Walter "Senior". Also his birth is more likely to have been in 1874 according to the census records (statistically if aged 6 in the 1881 census, then as the census was taken on April 3rd there is a 2:1 probability roughly that he was born in 1874 - sadly Ancestry, FMP and others always use the approx birth year calculation poorly). Just a couple of suggestions, hope they help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Wooliferkins Surnames: Warner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6279/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I can't find my Grandfather's birth record. Two census records say 1875 Portland Dorset. Marriage and Death records match up with the birth being 1875 Where do I go from here? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mwingerter0102 Surnames: PITTMAN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6278/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Still looking for Abbotsbury PITTMANs. I had DNA testing done for this line and it does not match the other groups currently in the Pittman DNA study. So my branch of the PITTMAN line that went from Dorset to Newfoundland then to New England and Michigan is apparently not related to most of the other Pittman researchers here in the USA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello My 4x g grandmother Nancy Watts was born c1812 in Wynford Eagle (bap. in Toller Fratrum). She is the daughter of William and Sarah. I am fairly certain that this is the William & Sarah living in Toller Porcorum in 1841 aged 65). The only William Watts that seems to fit is a William Bater Watts bap in 1779 in Cattistock (son of James and Ruth (nee Barrett)). This fits in with the fact that one of Nancy's siblings married a child of a Mary Beater Watts, who I can also place in Toller P. The trouble I am having is finding the marriage of William & Sarah; the only ones I can find are too early or too late or too far away. They had 4 children baptised at Toller Fratrum, Nancy being the first. I am sure that the Thomas Watts b 1808 in Loscombe (baptised in North Poorton) is also theirs. There is also the possibility of 3 children baptised in Netherbury between 1804 and 1810. Therefore I think they possibly married around 1802/3. Can anyone find a likely marriage? I would be most grateful for any thoughts. Christel

Hi Vanessa Are you researching the Dowland/Dewland's of Charminster? There was a Peter Dewland bap 1775 who could be related to my family. Regards Kerrie I haven't found your Samuel, but just in case someone offers up the following - It is probably NOT your Samuel: Samuel DOWLAND s/o Thomas baptised on 23 November 1806 @ Bere Regis, Dorset

Dear Kerrie, No, I am not researching or connected to the DOWLANDs / DEWLANDs, sorry. Regards Vanessa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerrie" <aapt.net.akerriea@u> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <dorset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 10:26 PM Subject: [DOR] Samuel Dowland > Hi Vanessa > > Are you researching the Dowland/Dewland's of Charminster? There was a > Peter > Dewland bap 1775 who could be related to my family. > > Regards > Kerrie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: EthelClose194 Surnames: Dowling/Dowland, Ball, Patey, Gaulton/Galton, Short, Tapp all of England Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.dor.general/6277.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Chris I saw the message on Rootsweb about Samuel Dowland/Dowling. It is spelled both ways in Nfld but it is the same family. My 3rd Great Grandfather ARTHUR DOWLING.DOWLAND may be the related to this man. Arthur was born around the 1820 & it said on his death record that he was born in England. My Dowling's/Dowland was from the South West Coast but probably lived all over the Island as they were Fishermen & Farmers. There is a lot of them in the old Hermitage records * Hiscock Point all on the South West Coast Burgeo & LaPoile District.... Ethel Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.