This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Donovan Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/wJT.2ACEB/666.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the valuable info. If the |Patrick who arrived with Joanna was my Patrick, he would actually have been about 28 that year, so I'm not sure he would qualify as a youth, but it could be one of those elastic terms whereby if he was a family man he was a youth, maybe? As my Patrick seemed not to start his family till the mid 1850's whenhe had his 1st son Danial, when he was 35 or close enough, it's not impossible that it is the right Patrick. I'd be intersted to know if you are aware of the name of the boat or ship Joanna and Patrick would have arrived from Ireland in.... Do you have any cluyes? If so, I might be able to see if there are any records of the boad leaving Ireland or the UK. Once again, thanks for the message, it's very enlightening.