The idea I threw up about helping Lindel's family with travel cost seem acceptable to some. I do not know the cheapest or best way for people scattered around the world to send such a gift so is there anyone out there who could offer a solution to that part of the problem? I have been retired 10 years and am well out of touch with banking practices, maybe a member of the group living in NZ could get in touch with a bank and ask on our behalf how best to do this. And I just remembered that Lindel is on this group address so I have blown it when she sees her emails she may never speak to me again. But I will still love her Bill Spillane